TonyMeister

Matt Prior from Autocar UK tested and drifted the new E63. He liked it!

PeterUbers

So this guy finally answered the question, when the car is accelerating it can do 5050 torque split between the front and the rear to give an excellent launch and acceleration, and once it's cruising it's going only rear wheel drive. And you don't have to do anything in terms of switching on the dashboard to make this happen. So this car really is the best of both worlds, it has the all-wheel-drive for the launch and switches into rear Drive for roll races

otakki

Yes, any serious performance car should have the system set up as such rather than a fixed split torque, which is just inefficient. It's too bad the W212 version wasn't programmed similarly. Maybe there were some hardware limitations to doing so? Anyway, it looks like MB has finally made it.

Amg63-

damn that really sucks for us with the w212 models...a shame they didn't do the same for the current e63s.

At at least up to 120mph it pretty much is as quick as having full RWD, just after that (rarely ever go that high) it falls flat on its face.

Vipershade

Yeah, it sounds like the manual-mode, race-drive-program, ESP-deactivated, shift-paddle maneuver is just to drift. I think most of us (I know I did) assumed that drift-mode was the only way to get 100% RWD. Interesting review... hopefully we will get some more reviews that talk about the 4MATIC+ specifics.

PeterUbers

so essentially this is like amg version of nissans/Infiniti's atessa awd system

Amg63-

will be interesting to see if the 5.5TT can make enough extra torque over this new motor from a roll start to overcome its drivetrain disadvantage with 33/67 tq split. I have a feeling it won't to be honest but should be interesting to see.

Vipershade

Yeah, it definitely seems like that is what AMG was shooting for

MB Marko

I wish I could go back 15 years and pick a better career..... I can only dream to have this beast one day.

when its 20 years old ill pop on one

what a car.....

PeterUbers

come on! In five years it'll be $50,000 and in seven years about $35,000

gotta love amg depreciation

PeterUbers

i think they may have the ticket here...

MB Marko

hahaha your right but that still to high!

.....I need a career change hahaha

till then I'm driving the w204 till death. some idiot rear ended me now I lost at least 5k off resale, I'm still upset over the incident.

TonyMeister

How quick is the W213 E63? Very!

Amg63-

wow. So is this significantly faster than the w212? Those shifts look like it's DCT fast wow.

PeterUbers

hard to say... 0-100 is the 0-62mph

this car is in kph

seems about the same as the w212 amg in S+


cut and paste this:

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=rqWwH0Ok75Y

if the video doesn't play

otakki

The AutoExpress Video also states that in extreme condition, the new 4matic+ can go up to front 100: rear 0. Not really sure if it is necessary for the 4matic+ to be that extreme. The ATTESA on R35 is 2:98 from standing start up to 50:50. Hopefully the 4matic+ should be able to also do left and right torque split for the rears just like the ATTESA. Heck, the current Renault-Nissan-Diamler alliance means they are sharing some technology, right?!

Anyway, I would like to see some official press release from MB on the 4matic+ system to get some definitive answers.

Amg63-

funny how the w213 doesn't look any faster up top than w212 yet it's supposed to be full RWD at higher speeds. Either it's not making the switch or the m157 with higher drivetrain loss is still a downright beast to keep up like that.

TonyMeister

Acceleration run from 0 to 140 km/h (0 to 85 mph) on a soaking wet track.

Hammer Down

I would guess that it will go 10.8@130 on street tires and good prep

Amg63-

that would be faster than a tuned w212. If it really can do that (I doubt it) imagine what a tuned w213 will do...

PeterUbers

Doubt it

thats hellcat territory

i predict same w212 amg performance straight line or 11.5-11.6 @ 120's

absent

I predict 11.4 @ 124mph or even a couple mph more

efiftyfizzle

That sounds about right... no way this car will run 10s stock.

gaspam

old street racer general rule of thumb is 100lbs = -1/10th sec in 1/4 mile and +10hp also = -1/10th sec..... so if this new car has +26hp more and -300lbs less than current W212 then theoretically it should be about 1/2 sec quicker in 1/4 than current e63... assuming TCU intervention/torque limitations didnt get worse lol

Bones

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/merce...-drive-review/

Some info on the new 4matic setup and the weight looks to be heavier than 212