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Old 10-21-2009, 09:03 PM
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Supercharged 63...is it ever going to happen?

I browse the E92 M3 forums from time to time, and keep seeing all these supercharger kits popping up for the M3. I've read of at least 6 that are done or very close to it from companies like Gintani, GPower, ESS, Active Autowerkes, Vortech, etc. I'm just puzzled how the M3 market can support all these projects, yet our 63 which is used in multiple platforms can't even support one?

I wonder if we could petition one of the BMW developers to help us 63 guys out. Show them there is enough interest to at least look into it, or maybe there isn't any?

I particulary like the ESS setup which looks so clean and stealthy looking.

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VRP started a project to supercharge a CLK63 3 years ago, but then the project was later abandoned. RARfinancial tried to revive it, but it got no where

Brabus has a twin turbo kit but it's supposed to be only for the ML63 and the price is

I agree with you.... it would be nice to have a supercharged or turboed 63 engine around.
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I would love to see Hefner or Underground Racing do a TT CLK Black Series!
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FI ftw!
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There are no real tuners in the Mercedes market. Everyone just does baby basic ***** and simple fabrication. If the tuners can FI the M3's then theres no reason why an 63 engine isn't possible ... yet here we are with zilch.
I would've never gotten rid of my SL63, and Supercharged it if there was a real tuner around doing it, but nope.
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it might happen!
my local shop, advance, just got a C63 as a shop car and they plan to develop a s/c kit for it.
cant wait!
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it might happen!
my local shop, advance, just got a C63 as a shop car and they plan to develop a s/c kit for it.
cant wait!
Oh wow, that is great to hear! After seeing what they were able to do for you 55k guys first hand, Advance seems to know their stuff. So it's not just going to be a one off? Hopefully when they are ready they can fill us in on what's happening

But from reading posts in the past, it seems like that is what has kept a lot of 55k owners from making the jump to the 63. I just think a s/c kit would open up a whole new market for the 63 platform. Instead of losing 55k guys to other brands when trade-in time comes, it sounds like quite a few would stick around with a F/I 63, even if an aftermarket solution.
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if it works out well they will release it as a kit for others to buy.
they also want to develop other parts for amg cars and in the near future u should see them here as a sponsor on the board.
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There are no real tuners in the Mercedes market. Everyone just does baby basic ***** and simple fabrication. If the tuners can FI the M3's then theres no reason why an 63 engine isn't possible ... yet here we are with zilch.
I would've never gotten rid of my SL63, and Supercharged it if there was a real tuner around doing it, but nope.
This is absolutely true. "Tuning" for Mercedes means you are buying stuff from WinOLS, Dimsport, or whoever else. There is no real competition, no innovation. We get slap happy for what in other tuning circles are trivial parts. The quote goes competition is the disciplinarian in the market economy, however without true competition we just have to sit back and keep dealing with wholly underwhelming development for these platforms. The M113 55K is 7 years old for Christ's sake and we've only picked up 10-12mph without using nitrous.

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You have to remember our compression is high on our E63 cars so it is difficult to put boost into them!
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or maybe because benz anounced about the new 5.5 TT which is 580hp and milage will be 1.8g/100km due to its 4 cylender cut off system on the highways and low rpms.

^_^

so i prefer to wait for it 2 years them buying a 63 and tune it.
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I would love to see Hefner or Underground Racing do a TT CLK Black Series!
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This is absolutely true. "Tuning" for Mercedes means you are buying stuff from WinOLS, Dimsport, or whoever else. There is no real competition, no innovation. We get slap happy for what in other tuning circles are trivial parts. The quote goes competition is the disciplinarian in the market economy, however without true competition we just have to sit back and keep dealing with wholly underwhelming development for these platforms. The M113 55K is 7 years old for Christ's sake and we've only picked up 10-12mph without using nitrous.

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Agreed the MB aftermarket is the worst that i have ever seen, considering the cost and poor craftsmanship of the parts that are available.
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Originally Posted by Fantasm
There are no real tuners in the Mercedes market. Everyone just does baby basic ***** and simple fabrication. If the tuners can FI the M3's then theres no reason why an 63 engine isn't possible ... yet here we are with zilch.
I would've never gotten rid of my SL63, and Supercharged it if there was a real tuner around doing it, but nope.



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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
I would love to see Hefner or Underground Racing do a TT CLK Black Series!
If you have the money I'm sure they will get er done
Originally Posted by Marcus Frost
This is absolutely true. "Tuning" for Mercedes means you are buying stuff from WinOLS, Dimsport, or whoever else. There is no real competition, no innovation. We get slap happy for what in other tuning circles are trivial parts. The quote goes competition is the disciplinarian in the market economy, however without true competition we just have to sit back and keep dealing with wholly underwhelming development for these platforms. The M113 55K is 7 years old for Christ's sake and we've only picked up 10-12mph without using nitrous.

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or maybe because benz anounced about the new 5.5 TT which is 580hp and milage will be 1.8g/100km due to its 4 cylender cut off system on the highways and low rpms.

^_^

so i prefer to wait for it 2 years them buying a 63 and tune it.
I will wait and buy one used
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Originally Posted by VENOMNS
You have to remember our compression is high on our E63 cars so it is difficult to put boost into them!
Thats what new pistons are for.
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Also tranny, can the 7 speed handle the extra power?
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Also tranny, can the 7 speed handle the extra power?
thats exactly what i was thinking when i first read this.
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Would be awesome if produced
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Just a small bump to remind everyone how lacking the tuning availability is for Mercedes.
Not 1 Supercharger yet for the 63 engines.
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Originally Posted by VENOMNS
You have to remember our compression is high on our E63 cars so it is difficult to put boost into them!
Tell that to the Japanese tuners who have successfully tuned engines with 9:1 compression and higher.

New pistons will make the high compression issue go away as well as a GREAT tune.
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All those with 63 engines enjoy your 507HP in good health. How much is enough? Want supercharged power in a light weight frame get the ZR1.
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I've been waiting for a supercharger for quite a while now too. M's are a larger market than AMG's I would think, hence more tuners/parts. Everyone keeps saying that the high compression of the 63 is an issue, but isn't the M3's compression even higher? Their supercharger kits will be bolt on and not require internal modifications as far as I am aware. For the transmission, could a valve body upgrade be possible?
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Originally Posted by sack5000
All those with 63 engines enjoy your 507HP in good health. How much is enough? Want supercharged power in a light weight frame get the ZR1.
The upcoming TT V8 M5 looks good too.


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