Charles05

I bought A45 delivered 26 Nov 2015 VIN/Chassis: WDD1760522J436923, Eng No 13398080060229.
Can anybody tell me if I have the 380 HP or the 360HP engine. Just wanted to check when the changeover occurred.
Regards
Peter

Plutoe

Your 133980 has 181 hp per liter

Charles05

Thanks Plutoe. I find MB difficult to get information out of and the manuals are useless. Tried to buy a CD copy of the manual but told not available.
I also have a locked diff on the front. I asked if this is a limited slip or a lock. Daaaahhhh no definite answer. Manual said that AMG Limited Slip Diff should have oil changed at 5k. So I went in to ask. No Oils change not required! All I have been told is that it is 1 second faster around Lakeside - a local racing track.
Have you any knowledge that may enlighten me about the locked diff?
Little peeved as when I ordered the vehicle they knew I was waiting for the 380HP version and I was ordering it with a three months wait ex factory. Then I was told they had one available in several weeks with 2015 plates. Was not told it was the earlier engine. My stupidity, just assumed and expected I would have been told.
Particularly as I operated over half a dozen Mercedes Vans in our business before I sold it.
Leaves a sour taste.

Sorry for unloading on you and thanks mate for your help.
PS Do love driving the car - if only MB could get their act together with all the other ****.

ItalianJoe1

Same engine, if anything changes it's just in the tuning. Have the car flashed, it will be quicker anyway.

Charles05

Thanks. That answers anothert one of the questions I was looking at. All this was all brought on when I decided to go that way and I was asked what engine I had.
Again, thanks mate.

mbama420

Two figures show that the newly developed AMG 2.0-litre turbo engine is the most powerful series production four-cylinder turbo engine in the world:

A maximum output of 265 kW (360 hp) and up to 450 Nm of torque are unmatched by any other mass-produced turbocharged four-cylinder engine worldwide.
The power density of 133 kW/l (181 hp/l) is also unrivalled. In this discipline, the new AMG high-performance turbo engine even outstrips the most powerful super sports cars.
The high power and torque output and the combination with the performance-oriented AMG 4MATIC all-wheel drive as standard lead to enhanced dynamic performance: the A 45 AMG accelerates from zero to 100 km/h in 4.6 seconds, while its top speed stands at 250 km/h (electronically limited). The specially developed AMG engine is also tailored for efficiency – the A 45 AMG leads its segment on this front, with fuel consumption of 6.9 liters per 100 kilometers in NEDC combined mode. This is accompanied by particularly low exhaust emissions: the A 45 AMG already complies with the EU6 emissions standard, combined with the limit for the particle count per kilometer of 6 x 1011 which will be mandatory from 2017.

*electronically limited

The basis for these figures is provided by the high-tech package which has been put together by Mercedes-AMG. As a high-performance engine belonging to the BlueDIRECT family, the AMG 2.0-litre four-cylinder turbo engine features spray-guided direct petrol injection via piezo injectors positioned centrally in the four combustion chambers. The combination of multiple fuel injections and multiple spark ignition improves fuel utilization and increases thermodynamic efficiency substantially, leading to lower exhaust emissions. Other highlights include the gravity-die sandcast all-aluminium crankcase, weight-optimized crank assembly with forged steel crankshaft and forged pistons with friction-optimized piston rings, NANOSLIDE cylinder wall technology, air-water charge air cooling, generator management and ECO start/stop function.

Twin-scroll turbocharger and AMG sports exhaust system with exhaust flap
Mercedes-AMG addresses the essential challenges concerning the response of small-displacement turbo engines by means of a twin-scroll turbocharger, maximum derestriction of the exhaust system and an innovative injection strategy. The twin-scroll technology provides for a more spontaneous build-up ناصر پلاستیک of charge pressure (at a maximum of 1.8 bar), making effective use of exhaust gas back pressure, exhaust gas temperature and exhaust gas impulse. This results in a swifter build-up of torque right from the lower rev range. As a positive side-effect, the twin-scroll technology also benefits fuel consumption and exhaust emissions.

The AMG sports exhaust system features large pipe cross-sections and an automatically controlled exhaust flap. This technology, which is familiar from the SLK 55 AMG, reconciles the two apparently conflicting aims of tangible dynamism and hallmark Mercedes comfort on long journeys. The flap is continuously adjusted by map control according to the power called up by the driver, load status and engine speed. The two striking tailpipes of the AMG sports exhaust system emit a full engine sound which is particularly impressive during powerful acceleration. An AMG Performance exhaust system with exhaust flap and featuring a dedicated tailpipe trim design is optionally available for the A 45 AMG. This provides for an even more emotional and striking engine sound when the throttle is open and during gear shifting. The double-declutching function during downshifting and the interruption of ignition and injection during upshifting under full load produce a particularly throaty sound with the AMG Performance exhaust system and create a level of emotionality which is otherwise the reserve of engines with more than 4 cylinders.

High-performance cooling system with components from the SLS AMG
The high driving dynamics of the A 45 AMG call for a highly effective cooling system. On the basis of the components belonging to the SLS AMG, a low-temperature circuit is additionally deployed for air-water charge air cooling of the four-cylinder turbo engine. The large cooler section at the front level of the cooling module is supplemented by an additional cooler in the wheel arch. Together with the charge air cooler which is connected in series, a high-performance electric pump ensures the required flow through the water coolers located behind the large intake ports. This provides for ideal cooling of the highly compressed charge air, thereby contributing towards optimum engine performance. Cooling of the transmission oil is integrated in the water cooling circuit for the engine. The water cooler positioned behind the front apron is supported by the heat exchanger which is fitted directly on the transmission and supplied with cooling water as required by means of an auxiliary pump.

mbama420

MOTOR Exclusive: Next AMG A45 hyper-hatch promises Drift mode, 294kW and ‘next level’ handling
The next Mercedes-AMG A45 is set to take the hot hatch benchmark to a new level with sub-4.0sec 0-100km/h launch control acceleration, F1-inspired mild hybrid tech and ‘next level’ handling including a tyre-frying drift mode.
Expected to officially break cover at next year’s Frankfurt motor show in September, MOTOR can exclusively reveal the first details of AMG’s hottest-ever hatch, one that promises to send all-wheel drive rivals like the Audi RS3 and Ford Focus RS packing.
Speaking exclusively about the new hyper hatch at the Circuit of the Americas in Austin, Texas, recently, AMG chairman Tobias Moers said the 2020 A45 represented a new level of performance for a transverse engine Mercedes-Benz model, keenly describing the upcoming five-door as “an unbelievable car”.
Set to follow the recently unveiled A35 4MATIC into Australian showrooms, Moers revealed the new A45 will pack more than 294kW, or over 14kW more than its predecessor, from a new turbocharged 2.0-litre four-cylinder – a sufficient enough gain in power to push it ahead of the Audi RS3 for overall firepower. A final power figure is not planned to be disclosed until closer to the new model’s scheduled unveiling next year.
Despite the power bump, the AMG chairman said there is more to the upcoming second-gen A45 than merely output alone, suggesting a largely new chassis, including a mostly bespoke MacPherson strut front and multi-link rear suspension boasting variable damping, making it a “more engaging and more emotional car to drive”.
MOTOR feature: 2020 Focus RS preview
“There’s no oversteer, it is better handling. You feel every corner at the Nordschleife (a reference to the Nürburgring circuit where a good deal of the new five-door hatchback’s development has taken place during the European summer). It is also better riding; we’re very focused on chassis stiffness,” said Moers.
Like all new compact models from Mercedes-Benz, the 2020 A45 is based around a heavily re-engineered platform. Known internally as the MFA2 structure, it has been reworked in various areas by the team at AMG to provide the new car with a level of rigidity described as being beyond that of regular fourth-generation A-Class models.
Further changes are aimed at the chassis, which receives its own unique track widths and a newly developed four-wheel drive system (4MATIC+) able to send the majority of drive to the rear wheels in certain driving modes. This is an advance on the old model, whose all-wheel drive system could only apportion up to 50 per cent to the rear wheels.
This critical change in the drivetrain has enabled AMG to provide the new A45 with a drift function similar to that originally brought to the E63 S.
Picture: First-gen A45 drivetrain
“It will go sideways,” enthused Moers, who previously headed up new vehicle development at AMG prior to being elevated to chairman in 2013, hinting it will go a long way to answering criticism of the clinical driving characteristics of the initial A45.
News of the adoption of the new four-wheel drive system and drift function comes after the unveiling of the new A35, a car the AMG boss said delivers a level of handling beyond “the A45 of today, if not more”.
Moers confirmed the new A45 will pack a “totally new engine”. What he hasn’t yet revealed is the transversely mounted unit will feature a 48-volt electric system used to power an auxiliary compressor and integrated starter/alternator.
This gives it mild-hybrid properties, including a so-called boost function that liberates added power under acceleration and the ability to recuperate kinetic energy both under braking and on a trailing throttle.
Based on the M260 engine used by the latest A250 and recently unveiled A35, the new four-cylinder boasts the same تاثیر سوابق تحصیلی در کنکور 98 swept volume as the M133 that powered the first-gen A45, with bore and stroke of 83mm and 92mm giving an overall capacity of 1991cc.
Key elements of the new engine, which will be produced at Mercedes-Benz’s Kolleda factory in Germany, include a newly designed aluminium block. It is manufactured from an aluminium alloy known as ‘AlSi7Mg’, features the same 90mm cylinder spacing as the M133 and uses Mercedes-Benz’s patented Nanoslide coating for the cylinder walls to reduce frictional losses.
Additionally, the cylinder head has also been reworked. It is produced from an aluminium alloy known as ‘AlSi10MgZr’ that includes zirconium silicate to increase thermal conductivity.
The new four-cylinder also receives the German car maker’s spray-guided direct-injection, chain-driven camshafts and a twin-scroll turbocharger that, like that of the old engine, is programmed to operate at a maximum 26psi of boost pressure.
Engineering sources at AMG say the routing of air from the inlet manifold into the cylinders is similar to that of the old M133 at around 1200mm, suggesting it will boast similar levels of throttle response to its predecessor.
Details of the exact power output of the new A45 currently remain tightly under wraps, though Moers said AMG’s version of the M260 engine will outgun the M133. “It’s not yet certified, so we can’t talk about the output at the moment. But it will be over 400 metric horsepower,” said the AMG chairman. This points to an output of more than 294kW – which is the exact output of the current Audi RS3.
By comparison, the first-generation A45 served up 280kW at 6000rpm along with 475Nm of torque on a band of revs between 2250 and 5000rpm.
It is largely expected the “over 400 metric horsepower” figure divulged by Moers will be applied to a new range-topping A45 S model, while a ‘base’ A45 will receive a version of the new M260 engine tuned to a similar level as today’s M133 power unit.
Various reports quote the AMG head as saying the A45’s new engine will be mated with an eight-speed dual-clutch automatic gearbox, although this has yet to be 100 per cent confirmed. With the current model offering no manual transmission option, it’s almost certain the next A45 will follow suit.
Assuming it hits the scales at a similar weight to today’s 1480kg first-generation A45 4MATIC, the new model may well be in line to become the first series production hatchback to deliver a 0-100km/h time under 4.0sec – some 0.2sec faster than its predecessor.
Nothing is official just yet, but AMG officials have revealed the Audi RS3 and its 4.1sec 0-100km/h time is the clear acceleration benchmark, with a launch-control-assisted sub-4.0sec sprint likely for the 2019 A45.
Stylistically, AMG’s new hyper hatch will be differentiated from the A35 by a more aggressive Panamerica grille set within a uniquely styled front bumper featuring larger air ducts. Further exterior elements include uniquely designed wheels up to 20 inches in diameter, wider sills underneath the doors, a more prominent rear hatch spoiler and larger rear diffuser.
Inside, the second-generation A45 will feature its own unique digital instrument graphics and Mercedes-Benz’s new کارت ورود به جلسه دکتری MBUX operating system among a range of sporting touches, including an AMG multi-function steering wheel, front seats and trim elements.
The next A45 is unlikely to reach Australian shores by the end of next year, a 2020 on-sale date more likely. Pricing is currently the exclusive realm of speculation; the outgoing, heavily specified A45 is $78,240.
2020 Mercedes-AMG A45: Six things to know
01 - Headline figures
Boasting mega power figures, the next-gen A45 is rumoured to nail 0-100km/h in less than 4.0sec. This would make it the hottest of hot hatches, besting the Audi RS3’s 4.1sec.
02 - New engine
Out with the old M133 and in with the new M260 – rumoured to have in excess of 294kW. Alloy block a new design, but displacement remains 1991cc.
03 - Hybrid boost
The M260 unit will have a 48-volt mild-hybrid system powering an auxiliary compressor and offer a ‘boost’ function for extra grunt.
04 - Drift ready
Majority of drive can be sent to the rear wheels, as opposed to only 50 per cent with previous A45. Will gain unique track widths, too.
05 - Body donor
New MFA2 platform will underpin not only the A-Class, but will be shared with the CLA and B-Class.
06 - Expected tech
Merc’s new MBUX infotainment and massive digital instrument cluster will find its way into A45.
Hot Hatch Wars: The A45's future rivals
Far from having it all its own way, the second-generation Mercedes-AMG A45 will need to be good to compete against a slew of upcoming models.
Rumoured to be packing a mild-hybrid system (like the A45) in combination with a high-output combustion engine, the next Ford Focus RS poses one of the biggest threats. Expected to channel more than 300kW through all fours, the RS will also adopt an angrier exterior design (artist impression pictured) based on the all-new Focus.
Hyundai is wanting to add a halo model to its range, and the RN30 Concept could be a sign that an all-wheel drive hot hatch is in the works. The RN30 uses a 280kW/450Nm four-cylinder turbo and is tied to a wet-type dual-clutch transmission.
Rumours are gathering that VW is planning a mild-hybrid version of the Golf R, with a combined output of over 300kW (with the EA888 four-pot).
With the next-gen BMW 1 Series switching to front-wheel drive, it seems the M version could become AWD for better packaging. What powers it, four or six cylinders, is the bigger unknown.