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Old 03-04-2017, 03:37 PM
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you should have the bearing type bolt, acer has them, dont know about all the sizes
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Originally Posted by JB C63S
As I stated in my post, you can put a 15mm too long bolt on your stock wheels and the spin freely.

The hubs on our cars are 12.6mm or so long. I have no idea how anyone can run a spacer smaller than 15mm succesfully, unless it does not have a hubcentric design, or it is really thin to allow the hub to protrude through.

I think the 10mm spacers (and 12) appear problematic.

The stock lug bolts are 2 piece fancy things. You wont find long versions of these, I bet, but the lug bolts for a C63 from H&R, for instance, work fine.
Did this question ever get resolved? Is '15mm rear - 10mm front' and 15mm longer bolts all the way around the best fitment?
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15 on the back look and work great.

10 and 12 would look good on the front but not have the wheel centered by the hub, which is 12-13mm long. Some have claimed to run this set up, but no one has gone into details about how it actually works.

I'm thinking I'll try my 15s on the front and see what I think.
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Originally Posted by JB C63S
15 on the back look and work great.

10 and 12 would look good on the front but not have the wheel centered by the hub, which is 12-13mm long. Some have claimed to run this set up, but no one has gone into details about how it actually works.

I'm thinking I'll try my 15s on the front and see what I think.
Thanks! Please post your thoughts (and a photo) after trying this. I'd like the stock wheels/tires to be equally close to the arches but not rub if eventually dropped and without messing up alignment given the DPP specs. Nirvana.
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Originally Posted by JB C63S
15 on the back look and work great.

10 and 12 would look good on the front but not have the wheel centered by the hub, which is 12-13mm long. Some have claimed to run this set up, but no one has gone into details about how it actually works.

I'm thinking I'll try my 15s on the front and see what I think.
John that would be great. I'm torn on buying wheels/tires this year and there looks to be alot of room. The 15s on rear really squared it up.
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I tried a bunch of things

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John that would be great. I'm torn on buying wheels/tires this year and there looks to be alot of room. The 15s on rear really squared it up.
I ended up with 15mm in the rear and 5mm in the front. I agree 10 in front would be perfect but they don’t fit with the 12.6mm hub lip protrusion.
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I ended up with 15mm in the rear and 5mm in the front. I agree 10 in front would be perfect but they don’t fit with the 12.6mm hub lip protrusion.
So you believe 15mm front too much?
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So you believe 15mm front too much?
I tried 15mm up front and it stuck out too much and looked ridiculous. I never drove it like that though. 10mm would be perfect. I often wonder what would happen if you stacked 2-5mm spacers and tried that though...
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Originally Posted by orenlasko
I tried 15mm up front and it stuck out too much and looked ridiculous. I never drove it like that though. 10mm would be perfect. I often wonder what would happen if you stacked 2-5mm spacers and tried that though...
Thanks, great help. I realize it's a PITA, but would you mind posting a profile photo of this 15/5 combo? Which lugs did you use?
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If memory serves the factory bolts have a thread length of 18-20mm. I added the spacer depth and ordered new sizes for both accordingly from H&R.


Front Wheel with 5mm H&R spacer



Rear Wheel with 15mm H&R spacer



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Thx! Big help. If that front is only 5mm, it still looks fine. By pushing the rear out 15mm, the front needs 'something' but 5mm appears to still leave room for a drop without rubbing if desired.
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Didn't Tony break the wheel with a 5 or 10mm spacer up front?
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Originally Posted by AMG 17GT
Didn't Tony break the wheel with a 5 or 10mm spacer up front?
12mm, per his post/photo.

Settled...15mm rear. Agreed that 10mm is the most complementary front fitment but is there still confusion whether it's hubcentric and it fits or not?
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Heres a photo of 12mm front. The center ring broke off as you can see in the pictures. I recommend 10mm or less.







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I kept the oem widths with my aftermarket rims (9's and 11's) and am trying to get the offsets but he is a tight *** (the builder ha).

What I do know is that Weistec tried to put 275's in the front and its not optimal to avoid rubbing. I think the car is maxed at 265 so a 9 or 9.5 wont really matter except for 6mm (split the inner and outer of half an inch) in offset. And that's a big maybe because if I push my car out further I will rub in the front. I think with the right rear offset you can get a 12 on there:




Do you have any data about your wheel sizing? Need the offsets badly your car looks perfect for factory wheel size.
And what springs were you dropped on? is it the kw sleeve springs?
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Do you have any data about your wheel sizing? Need the offsets badly your car looks perfect for factory wheel size.
And what springs were you dropped on? is it the kw sleeve springs?
Sorry I dont have the offsets and the guy who made these wheels likes to keep his numbers so I apologize (it was a sponsor deal so I never saw an invoice with details)... yes Im dropped on KW sleeves.
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bringing this old thread to the top, since my question don't deserve a new one.

How would new Gtc or gtc 50th edition wheels look on gts. You can option gtc with gts wheels but would the oppositelook ridiculous?

Oem gts rear: 20x 11", ET68
edition 50: 20x12", ET46

about 25mm extended vs original. Does this stick out too much?
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bringing this old thread to the top, since my question don't deserve a new one.

How would new Gtc or gtc 50th edition wheels look on gts. You can option gtc with gts wheels but would the oppositelook ridiculous?

Oem gts rear: 20x 11", ET68
edition 50: 20x12", ET46

about 25mm extended vs original. Does this stick out too much?
The ED50 is 1/2 an inch more outward (wheel only) plus the 22mm in offset so the actually difference is 34/35mm which would be too much. Its the narrow body that kills the option along with the wider wheel. With a 15mm on the OEM GTS the net offset is ET53 and thats aggressive so a 12 inch wheel at ET46 is beyond.

Im stating all this based on your numbers you supplied.
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Originally Posted by Vic55
The ED50 is 1/2 an inch more outward (wheel only) plus the 22mm in offset so the actually difference is 34/35mm which would be too much. Its the narrow body that kills the option along with the wider wheel. With a 15mm on the OEM GTS the net offset is ET53 and thats aggressive so a 12 inch wheel at ET46 is beyond.

Im stating all this based on your numbers you supplied.
Got it. Thank you. Im looking for something like the photo you posted here, looks perfect on this car.
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Funny you can actually configure this setup on german configurator.
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Yikes-can’t believe the configurator allows that, look how horrible the rears are, stick out way too far.
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Hey There I have an AMg GTC Edition 50 and I was thinking about running spacers. What mm would you recommend to do all around?
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Hey There I have an AMg GTC Edition 50 and I was thinking about running spacers. What mm would you recommend to do all around?
i don’t know if you’ve read the whole thread but a fellow member turbotonee used H&R spacers as did I. His front spacer snapped from the ring and assumed it was down to using a 12mm rather than 10mm spacer. Just to inform anyone I used a 10mm H&R hubcentric spacer up front and I had exactly the same issue. When I removed the wheel the spacer ring was stuck in the centre of the inner wheel and I had what looked like a flush spacer bolted onto the hub. So it failed in exactly the same way to turbotonee’s.

I’ve always used H&R spacers on many cars and have never had issues.

So word of warning. It seems that any size spacer up front might be an issue. 15mm on the rear were perfect.
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If you look up our car on H&R's site, it will show a 13mm spacer. That's the minimum thickness if you want it to be hubcentric since the hub lip protrudes about 12.4mm. Any hubcentric spacer that is thinner will not sit flush on our cars.

I'll have to test fit some 3d printed spacers before I decide if 13mm up front is too aggressive or not. With that said, member sl600fanatic in the H&R spring thread is using 15mm's up front.

I have a set of 20mm's for the rear but I'm waiting for my bolts to come in before I can try them. I'll post some photos of the rear setup next week hopefully.
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Here's my car with 20mm rear spacers. Spacers are H&R 4055665, Bolts are ST Suspension ST56110308. Yes, I know, I need to lower the car... Please excuse the mess in the garage.





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