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Old 05-16-2017, 11:36 AM
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Got you.... both first world decisions many would want to have. I have both cars for a reason They are damn bad a$$.
You have both cars because you CAN, haha. I cannot. The question is, if you had to choose one, would you break the bank/budget on the R8, or be satisfied with the GTS, and about $50k CDN in the bank?
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You have both cars because you CAN, haha. I cannot. The question is, if you had to choose one, would you break the bank/budget on the R8, or be satisfied with the GTS, and about $50k CDN in the bank?

The GTS is the better choice when coupled with those extra factors you have disclosed. The R8 is a potential daily driver but I would not do so. The GTS can be a daily driver and you will also save monies. I have seen some non plus's come down into the 150k range used which mirrors up with some new GTS's that are highly optioned but then one can still drop the pricing on the GTS with negotiation.
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I have a Q5 so I know what you are referring too but it still has no memory which I find useful when getting out of the vehicle as both cars do not have the function of moving the seat back.
It's just a plus to have better gas mileage, no one said it was a matter of being of finances.
Well, the guy I raced with his V10+ must not know how to drive it I did drive his car for 10 mins and do find that it does not have the punch a tuned GT has. The R8 is quicker off the line though and the NA V10 is big asset sound and throttle wise.

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LOL, you know so much...

There is memory on the seats but its via the key fob (it remembers the last setting based on the key usage.

If you can afford the car, you can afford the gas or one is just fooling themselves.

A tuned non plus will beat a tuned GTS (I have both and since you brought that up LOL) as it actually bumps over the Plus. But stock vs stock we know what is the faster car too LOL. Tuned cars are gaining about 90 crank awd hp. Does a tuned GT or GTS out trap a Lambo Huracan or a V10 plus stock?

There is always something faster and better but the sound of the V10 sells it for me... and while the grunt of the hot V8 is great it just doesn't compare IMHO.
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Go drive both. Both animals have very different driving traits and it should be fairly obvious which one you will prefer.
Since Vic has both, he knows better
If you are not against tuning, I would suggest you buy a GT and save another $20K. On the other hand, the R8 has more of a supercar look and if you can find a slightly used one for $150K or less, it is a hell of a car and will probably depreciate much less.

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The GTS is the better choice when coupled with those extra factors you have disclosed. The R8 is a potential daily driver but I would not do so. The GTS can be a daily driver and you will also save monies. I have seen some non plus's come down into the 150k range used which mirrors up with some new GTS's that are highly optioned but then one can still drop the pricing on the GTS with negotiation.
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Originally Posted by emericr
Go drive both. Both animals have very different driving traits and it should be fairly obvious which one you will prefer.
Since Vic has both, he knows better
If you are not against tuning, I would suggest you buy a GT and save another $20K. On the other hand, the R8 has more of a supercar look and if you can find a slightly used one for $150K or less, it is a hell of a car and will probably depreciate much less.
This is actually a big point. The problem is that we don't really know the depreciation curve of the GTS yet. At least in Canada, the R8 tended to hold its value from year 2-5 pretty well. In the end, it might be CHEAPER to own the R8 than the less expensive GTS...even though the initial capital outlay is more.
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Originally Posted by emericr
I have a Q5 so I know what you are referring too but it still has no memory which I find useful when getting out of the vehicle as both cars do not have the function of moving the seat back.
It's just a plus to have better gas mileage, no one said it was a matter of being of finances.
Well, the guy I raced with his V10+ must not know how to drive it I did drive his car for 10 mins and do find that it does not have the punch a tuned GT has. The R8 is quicker off the line though and the NA V10 is big asset sound and throttle wise.
He must not have been driving it right as you stated... The R8 does require more throttle and rpm input because the hp/tq curves are steep vs flat like the GTS tq table.

I do apologize for going slightly off topic here as well.

Here is a video of a NON Plus vs the GTS... The GTS doesn't catch up. Again I'm not biased as I have both... they serve different purposes as my first post in this thread dictated. If I'm in traffic, the GTS tq punch is excellent no doubt.

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Isn't it generally accepted that the V10 non-plus is under-rated relative to the plusversion?
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Isn't it generally accepted that the V10 non-plus is under-rated relative to the plusversion?
I think that's an accurate statement based on what Ive seen at the R8 boards. But in defense of the GTS; the same can be said. There is no way the GTS has "just" 503 hp.

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Originally Posted by Vic55
Here is a video of a NON Plus vs the GTS... The GTS doesn't catch up.
Isn't that expected since the R8 is 4WD and the GTS is RWD?
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Originally Posted by Vic55
I think that's an accurate statement based on what Ive seen at the R8 boards. But in defense of the GTS; the same can be said. There is no way the GTS has "just" 503 hp.
FWIW, your posts on the topic have been very helpful, thank you.
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Isn't that expected since the R8 is 4WD and the GTS is RWD?
I would say that the launch was expected due to AWD but once rolling, parasitic loss of the AWD drivetrain sets in and that would slow it down. But Audi has done a good job with the tq splits on the Gen 2 cars vs the power robbers in the Gen 1 trannies.
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Isn't that expected since the R8 is 4WD and the GTS is RWD?
Indeed. This is exactly what happened at start of my 1/2 mile. But I did close at end. If we had run to 170 it probably would have been dead even.
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GTS is better looking than Audi R8 V10 (plus too)

but the Huracan is better looking than both and the only one generally considered a supercar. is it worth the 40k more over the Audi?
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GTS is better looking than Audi R8 V10 (plus too)

but the Huracan is better looking than both and the only one generally considered a supercar. is it worth the 40k more over the Audi?
Ive owned all 3, still have 2- opinions highly subjective but I find (and Im right LOL) that the R8 is better looking than the GTS. The Huracan is too wild IMHO and lacks refinement. But like I said..... opinions
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Originally Posted by Vic55
Ive owned all 3, still have 2- opinions highly subjective but I find (and Im right LOL) that the R8 is better looking than the GTS. The Huracan is too wild IMHO and lacks refinement. But like I said..... opinions
so which 2 did you keep
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I'm one of the rare people that thinks the R8 looks better than the Lambo. The back end of the Lambo looks pretty fat. The rear end design of the R8 is much trimmer.
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Well... If you're getting a car for its supercar looks, the r8 is one of the least supercar looking supercars. It's a bit too tame placed next to a huracan or mc570. That doesn't take anything from its beauty though, it's just more "refined".
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so which 2 did you keep
I got rid of the Huracan... just wasnt being used enough. It was/is a great car but its not so easy to drive around with the blind spots plus its beyond flashy with its wild looks and edges. In contrast I find the R8 to be docile (sans the aftermarket exhaust) but very smooth with the updated DSG and "feel" when I take it out to shopping centers, errands, quick runs, etc. Its very much like my Turbo S where it can be used alot or a little. It is a bit more fancy than the Turbo S but still much more refined than this (OEM Matte Huracan I dumped):

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Originally Posted by Vic55
I got rid of the Huracan... just wasnt being used enough. It was/is a great car but its not so easy to drive around with the blind spots plus its beyond flashy with its wild looks and edges. In contrast I find the R8 to be docile (sans the aftermarket exhaust) but very smooth with the updated DSG and "feel" when I take it out to shopping centers, errands, quick runs, etc. Its very much like my Turbo S where it can be used alot or a little. It is a bit more fancy than the Turbo S but still much more refined than this (OEM Matte Huracan I dumped):

So Vic having had the Lambo and R8 now, and that it's the same platform could you definitively say there that Lambo was quicker, faster as I hear the Italian was tuned differently from factory ???
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So Vic having had the Lambo and R8 now, and that it's the same platform could you definitively say there that Lambo was quicker, faster as I hear the Italian was tuned differently from factory ???
Its tough to say since I dont have the Plus but I have a non Plus that is tuned. From others in the R8 forum that have posted vids in the real world, the V10 Plus actually pulls on the Huracan. The V10 Plus has different gearing apparently; my tuner has dyno'd both the non plus with a tune and Huracan's with the Audi getting better peak hp. IDK... to me its all academic and really close and whoever gets a jump will win.

Here is an R8 V10 plus running a Huracan in the wild and beating it even when the Lambo jumps:


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Originally Posted by Vic55
I got rid of the Huracan... just wasnt being used enough. It was/is a great car but its not so easy to drive around with the blind spots plus its beyond flashy with its wild looks and edges. In contrast I find the R8 to be docile (sans the aftermarket exhaust) but very smooth with the updated DSG and "feel" when I take it out to shopping centers, errands, quick runs, etc. Its very much like my Turbo S where it can be used alot or a little. It is a bit more fancy than the Turbo S but still much more refined than this (OEM Matte Huracan I dumped):

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That car looks amazing with that paint
Thanks, at 13k for the paint option it was probably not 100% worth it but whatever LOL.
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I can't believe I am saying that but Mercedes is actual cheap for its option pricing on matte
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Thanks, at 13k for the paint option it was probably not 100% worth it but whatever LOL.
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