4ramin

nothing top secret and no one talked about guards or the secret service so i'm not sure what info you are getting. I'm just having respect for a good source that was kind to share some info and share some photos with me, Not sure about the s550 or a c43, as that was not part of the conversation nor do i care much for those cars to have a conversation about them. Always and idiot and classless person on these forums when people are sharing some info. . BTW to location i'm talking about is the port at long beach

Td33

Idiot and classless. Come on no need to get personal. I have feelings.

Maybe they do put the gtr inside at that location, but what's the big secret about it lol. Respect for a good source, like this is confidential information.

4ramin

the areas at port are considered international zones, pictures and information by the manufactures are not technically allowed...

JSwan724

So do us all a favor and ask him when they will be officially released in the US.

AMG 17GT

I for one am glad For this information. I'm weary of the sad sack responses.

Td33

If them keeping the GTR under a roof is top secret, good luck with that question.

4ramin

this is no news to anyone , I already have and the answer is that they are waiting for a government sign off ... as you and I , along with anyone else know , it's hard to
Put a date on that ....

JSwan724

Is your friend willing to confirm that MB is waiting for a EPA signoff or is it something else.

I am near positive that it's the EPA.

Regards

4ramin

This is what he told me , nothing wrong with the cars , nothing that needs to be done ti any cars jut waiting waiting for something that's beyond MB. I did ask if it was the EPA and it was hinted at that but won't say 100%..

JSwan724

I mentioned this in a earlier post but if you go to the EPA site you will see that the GT, GTS AND GT ROADSTER all have EPA certifications. However, the GTR, GTC both Coupe and Roadster, The GTC 50 Anniversary and finally the E63S do not as of yesterday.

My thinking is that this the reason for the prolonged delay.

Further, it is extremely unlikely at this point that we will see this end by 8/31.

September may be at risk as well.


Tesla is looking better and better......

JSwan724

Both the MB GTC Coupe and Roadster and the GTR are listed in this report.

They are also listed in the latest CARB Report.

https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad..._4d0_u3-70.pdf

We just may be getting closer.

FWIW: Certified 2018 Porsches are starting to be delivered in early September.


The latest epa.gov info as of 8/17

Annual Certification Data for Vehicles and Engines
Overview
The Annual Certification Test Results Report (often referred to as Federal Register Test Results Report) includes light-duty vehicle and heavy-duty engine reports for model years 1979 through 1994 and light-duty only data for later model years. Heavy-duty engine data for 1995 and 1996 is also available. The report contains certification levels (projected emission levels at the end of the useful life miles of a vehicle) and deterioration factors used to compute the certification levels.
The formatted report is not available for 1999 and later model years. The list of Certified Vehicle Models can be used in conjunction with the Certified Vehicle Test Result Report Data file by matching the Engine Family/Test Group and Evaporative Family combinations for a given vehicle model with the test results for that same combination in each file. The vehicle model name appearing in the Certified Vehicle Test Result Report Data does not necessarily represent the actual vehicle that was tested.

Mr. Vanos

This started as a good thread...haha.

Reality is we are arguing over points that are not going to change anything. We don't have our cars and we haven't exactly been making payments on them either. Would it be nice for MBUSA to offer us first dibs on the GT-BS (lol!), of course, but I certainly don't feel like they owe me anything. I watched some video this morning of the guy who went on a 40 minute YouTube rant because he was somehow released a 2018 C63 S that had not been emissions certified and MB wants the car back temporarily. Really spoiled my day how we've come to this point that we feel so entitled that we lose focus on what's important. Really made me sick.

My car has been sitting in Long Beach since July 6 and I won't get to drive it up to Pebble Beach in 2 weeks. I think I'm going to go record a YouTube video now...

JSwan724

I understand your frustration.

FWIW: MY car has been sitting in the Brunswick, GA VPC since April 8th so any grain of good news is appreciated.

What I hope to receive is my car before the model years change to the 2019's.

What you may find interesting is that Porsche sent everybody who had a car delayed a nice letter explaining what was going on and a estimate as to when they could expect their cars.

They are also working on some concessions. Free service and some money as well.

Best regards

Germancar1

Nah I thought you guys were smarter than this. You've all worked yourselves up over NOTHING with NO FACTS about anything. It's the silliest thing I've ever seen for group of people obviously smart enough to be able to afford cars like these.

M

Germancar1

I hear ya, but MB said this car was due in the fall so why you guys inserted yourselves in the import process back in April is beyond me. This is a normal thing with all car makers, esp after the VW debacle.

Some think MB owes them restitution!!! That is the most absurd thing like ever. Cars go on sale when they say they go on sale lol.

M

Germancar1

Somewhat of an ignorant statement. Fact is that CERTAIN BMWs are made in SC. The 3-Series, X3 and X5 are made in SC. The 6-Series (my car a 650i) came from Germany. I tracked the production of it from day one. Let me guess you think that because the GLE, GLS and C-Class are made here in the U.S. they aren't German?

You guys are really clueless.

M

Germancar1

Do you honestly believe that because Porsche told dealers and they told customers about a hold up with their cars, makes Porsche more desirable? Seriously I'm really just asking. Who says that a Porsche is most desirable car in the world lol?

Do you really think Mercedes is going to sell you a car, especially a 100K plus car that has been damaged from sitting somewhere too long? Do you think they're new at importing cars? You're just not thinking clearly here. They've been importing cars for years and years and this isn't the first time they've stocked cars at the ports. These GTRs will be delivered just like all other Benzes. I don't understand any of this when no one has any proof of a problem or that cars are rotting in the sun, which is totally illogical.

M

Td33

If they can make a nickel they'll sell it lol.

When my ordered CLS63 arrived at the dealership a chunk of metal under the paint was discovered.

No the factory didn't find it.

No the VPC didn't find it.

The truck driver found it when unloading the car lol.

Almost the entire driver side of the vehicle had to be re-painted.

You give these people way too much credit. They don't care. This obvious defect should have NEVER made it to the dealer, but it did.

Germancar1

No one is perfect. Question is do you think this happens regularly?

The only car that will be 100% perfect from delivery will be a Rolls-Royce or possibly a Bentley. All others are subject to defects.


My point is here that MBUSA isn't going to just deliver all these cars that have been so called sitting at the port without a through inspection.

M

Td33

My point is that means nothing. People being paid nothing to push the cars through the VPC and onto the dealerships where they can deal with issues under warranty.

I have several similar stories to my aforementioned post, but I'm not going to write a book. This issue was blatantly obvious. It took me all of five seconds to find it when I looked at the car.

I'd love to hear your definition of "through inspection."

guynamedsean

I think if your new car has been sitting at the port for this long... it's totally understandable to be, how do I say this?... "opposite of happy"?

benzbell

Anyone know how many GT R's are going to be sold in the US? I've heard everything from 200 to 2,000.

JSwan724

In 2017 through August or almost 8 months now so far, NONE!!

Td33

Lol

You get a with the way your handling this.

From your recent news it's heading in the right direction.

AHI

Holy crap there are a lot of emotions here.

Here are a few things I know for sure:
1. Whomever mentioned the GTR and E63's being stored indoors, is correct. I too was told to stay hush.

2. There are currently 4 GTR's already in Canada, one of which was already trailered to Renntech for testing and tuning. The rest of us were delayed.

3. I was the 3rd person in Canada to order one, LONG ago. So I'm a bit pissed that I didn't get one of the first 3, however I suspect its because of issues with the RXB rim, and rear carbon brace.

4. I have friends whom are waiting for new Porsches, that have been sitting at the Halifax port for over 2 months awaiting EPA certification. They were finally released yesterday, and are on route to Toronto (4 cars I personally know of)

5. I'm tired of waiting honestly. I need a car. My Demon is due in the next week or so, but I expect at least a week or two delay. It will be the first of the 300 allocated to the Canadian market.

6. I was told my GTR is due to be built first week of September, and be delivered for first week of October. Not really happy about this, but what can I do.

Going back to #4, I have to say, I cannot believe how well Porsche communicates with their customers about their cars. Emails answered quickly, informatively, and with a desire to please. I cannot even get one email answered from anybody over at MB, even my sales guy is ignoring me, and I'm not even annoying! Needless to say, I would still never buy a Porsche