AMG 17GT

Yeah but it wouldn't be "Hyper"

RobbieRob

Please explain your thoughts on the .2 GT3. We still don't know for sure what it will be for sure(magazine only references) and won't until Geneva in March unveil. We all know for sure there will be a manual option, will there be a wing delete option?(so a wingless manual 4.0, pretty much a 911R?), is the 4.0 going in there, but not the same 4.0 that is in the current RS and 911R? If you really think you will see a new .2 GT3 on U.S. streets in 2017 you are sadly mistaken, mid 2018.

GTR3693

It will be 4.0. Will be manual. Will be a GT3 touring option. Will start production in June. I get my car early August. Initial production is European cars. US a bit later. Will hit the street in the US late 2017.

RobbieRob

So like I said, hit the U.S. late 17'/early 18', first batch will go to 918 owners(for resale at a crazy premium or sit in a garage) and then in mid to late 18 they will start to actually "HIT" the streets. I'll be commenting on this post in August to see the pics of your .2 GT3, can't wait.
Also, the .2 GT3 with a wing delete, manual and a 4.0 is going to put a hurting on 911R owners since the prices on those will drop like crazy(same car for 1/2 the price). Very surprised at the wing delete option if it is true.

Wolfman

That car will be introduced in September of this year with deliveries in 2018, so it's not that far out...

RobbieRob

Whew, yeah, from June until September I'm thinking you will have a permanent smile on your face.

2016AMGGTS

Any AMG vehicle you purchase comes with a 2 stroke lawnmower engine so it's like getting 2 in one. I would go with the AMG and use it to mow my lawn.

1312Supercars

The GTR is limited to 400 units for the first year from what my Mercedes Benz guy told me, I also have a deposit down on a 991 GT3.2 (not an RS) too. I'm planning on getting both. I just don't think the GTR build will happen this year, I'm planning for a 2018 delivery. I even heard an unconfirmed report that they are officially sold out of them and won't take anymore orders. I think the smaller V8 in the GTR is going to be a game changer from the 6's in the GT3's but like I said I think I can land both allocations and be able to properly test them out on the track.

Promise

You're really making my decision hard if that's true. Especially since I drove the new r8 yesterday and the power felt endless. I probably shouldn't care about the depreciation aspect but I can't not consider it. Thanks for the info, also nice cars. How are you liking the 488 compared to the 458?

GTR3693

R8. A seriously under rated car.... but interesting to note that some of the pundits are now starting to come around. Although if you are looking at one, for gods sake do not buy new. The level of depreciation is mind boggling which makes them a seriously good buy 2nd hand. In Europe right now you can pick up demo R8 Plus with less than 2000kms on the clock for 90,000 euro inder MSRP!! Now thats a bargain.

1312Supercars

Thank you! I actually don't have it yet, expecting it in about a year (February to March of 2018), I just put in my final spec. for it last week; went with a Giallo Modella (Yellow) exterior. I took delivery of my California T in early May of 2016, and thoroughly enjoy the turbos. The performance is astounding considering it's a hard top GT car. I've driven the 488 once and it's blisteringly fast, in my humble opinion the quickness makes up for the lack of sound, even though I quite like the turbo sound.

I just ordered a C 63 S Coupe, which I'm expecting in summer of this year, to sit alongside my AMG GTR (when I finally get the allocation date) and my Alpha E 63. I'm still hoping for a .2 GT3 as well but my Porsche guy told me that my chances aren't the best anymore. I've only bought 2 cars from this Porsche dealership, a 2011 Panamera 4 and my 2017 Panamera Turbo which I'm taking delivery of in late March. If I can't get the GT3.2 I may go ahead and pick up a Macan GTS for my wife and to also build some loyalty with this dealership. It would be awesome to be considered for a Cayman GT4 update or the eagerly anticipated, yet unannounced, GT4 RS.

Also, I drove the V10 R8 (not the plus) earlier this year and it's definitely a car to go check out, it's more exotic now.

RobbieRob

Whew, That's a lot of cars in your Sig but not many actually owned yet?? So you have a F-Cali, a E63 and an older Panny for now? Aother Panny on the way, and a C63, a AMG GTR, a 488, and maybe a 911.2 GT3?? Danm, NICE. All within a couple months, good for you.

vzez

Here are some thoughts/questions.

1. For those of you who have a GTS or have driven it extensively, what are you expecting on the difference between the GTR and GTS. I realize on paper there are numerous significant changes that appear to make the GTR drive almost completely different. Although there are some things that will never change on the AMG GT: front engine, rear drive, feeling of being pulled rather than pushed (compared to most exotic sports cars currently - excluding American cars)

2. For those of you have seat time in the GTS and 991.1 GT3, what are you impressions both on and off the track. I have driven both, but with limited seat time.

I do know the 991.2 vs 991.1 will have minor changes, assuming you spec both as PDK, which I would. Therefore, I can pretty much rely on how the 991.1 GT3 drives.

What I don't know is how different the GTR will drive on track and street vs GTS. And, I most likely will never know until I own the car.


I am in the position where I cannot have both the GTR and 991.2 GT3, so I have a touch choice to make and soon!

1312Supercars

Haha thank you. In the garage I currently have the Bentley, Ferrari, Benz, Rover, and a Panamera 4S which is going for the Pan. Turbo in March. (I shot myself in the foot for the GT3.2 by not buying my current 4S with the same dealership I use now and going with another one which I won't use again). The 488 S, Pan. Turbo, and C 63 S are purchased and I'm just waiting to take delivery. I have money down on the GTR but no allocation date or final pricing yet, though I'm thinking September of this year from what my MB guy told me.

Also, nice cars as well, how do you like your E 63?

RobbieRob

That's a hard question for me to answer. I love the engine, gobs of power across the powerband, the awd is cool, makes that power really hook up and get things moving quickly. Trans is horrible, infotainment is boring and non existent for a 115k car, outside styling and interior is boring also,, BUT, it is reliable and that is a big part that keeps me coming back to MB for my car #2(not my DD), no problems with it and it just does what it needs to(no frills/plain),, I can stick my 72 year old Mother in it, put it in S+ and she'll run a mid to high 11 second 1/4, and then she can pick up 4 friends and go out for drinks..lol.
In march, I too might be trading the E in on a 17' Panamera Turbo, but the new E63s is pretty nice also. ??
Good luck with the new rides when they come in and keep us updated with pics.

1312Supercars

Exactly how I feel about mine right now, the transmission is horrible compared to the Porsche, but I can't complain when I put the foot down and I'm at 60 in the low 3's. Maybe if I feel really crazy I will do the AMS transmission upgrade, but until then I'm sticking with just the tune and exhaust work. I'm curious to see how well the C 63 S will do compared to the E.

And I will post lots of pics. when they all come in! Definitely very excited to see them side by side.

1312Supercars

I just talked to my dealer. He told me that we should have a confirmation in April for build out date, but that the car should be here by December at the latest. I'm very hopeful if this is the case. I opted out of the C 63 Coupe after some enticing from my Lamborghini dealer I have the new Performante Spider coming in next summer. Since both this and the GTR are supposedly killing the "Ring" I'm extremely excited to see them side by side. Just thought I would post an update for anyone wondering about ordering times for the GTR.

GTR3693

Got bored waiting. Needed a new toy so bought a 964 RS. Just took delivery. My unicorn car.

AMG SK

For a track only tool, you are much better off buying a one season old Porsche 991R with decent spares, wheels etc and no major shunts. I have done the exact same thing. I had a GT3 RS 997, it spent its entire 4,500 KMS on the track or at events. The only way to make it faster was to keep modifying it so at the end it was basically a road going race car. Best lap time I could get out of it and I am no F1 driver but I did 2 seasons of Carrera Cup and was a Porsche Instructor, was a 1.17 at our local race track. I jumped in the used Cup Car with new tyres after scrubbing them in got down to 1.11.

Lesson learnt, if you want to go fast safely and as quick as you can, buy a Race Car, trailer, spares etc or do a deal with one of the teams for maintenance and they get it to the track for you. You just turn up and drive. Second major advantage is the Cup Cars come with full telemetry so after a run you sit down with your engineer and instructor if you are working with one. Nothing will improve your skills better. Plus - when you have an off, you have a full cage protecting you. Finally I don't know about the US States Tax matters but here buying a track only Race car saved me a fortune in Government Luxury Car Taxes.

Astolfo

If you have to ask then keep the AMG and make the RS available to someone else LOL

kumizi

as much as I like my GTS (also had a GT3 i loved), this is no question

GT3RS

John Danskin

I found a recent article on the hypercar. It looks like they expect it to sell out before anyone sees more than the sketch. Would be fun, but too rich for me.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/mercedes-amg-hypercar

As someone waiting and waiting for replacement wheels for my GT S, for actual track work, I would be worried about downtime on the GTR. If I could drive one car at the track without worrying, I'd rather drive my GT S than a comparable Porsche. I just like the way it feels to be sitting on the rear axle in the GT S. It just feels cool. The end.

amgfan1

The PORSCHE GT3RS have bullet-proof performance as
i have one. If you can test drive one please do to get an actual feel of the track prowess of the GT3RS. Production run is now over so not sure where you get a new GT3RS. However the new GT3 991.2 is coming out soon!

The GT-R looks good on paper but certainly beatable unless you upgrade to the Black Series. The big downer is the depreciation. Mercedes Benz is very notorious about this and doesn't look like it will be limited compared to the historical production numbers of the Black Series.

Good luck and share the outcome of your decision.

Drive safe,
amgfan1

AMG SK

Received an email from my dealer this morning, GTR orders for the first batch are being closed off tomorrow, so I run through all the specs and options I wanted and had to top the deposit up to $10,000. Apparently these are MB AMG rules that you have to meet in order to be assigned a car.

My dealer has no idea when its likely to arrive but felt it could be by the end of this year. AS I have just taken delivery of a C63S Edition One Coupe and have spent a small fortune on tuning parts for it, I am hoping my GTR will not arrive until early to mid next year. I have the ordering pdf if anyone would like a copy PM me please.

I cannot decide on colour, I narrowed it down to Magno Grey or Green Hell Magno Green. I figured most p people would go for the Magno Green as that's the launch colour so I went for the Grey Magno.

The options list is extensive and I didn't have much time before order cut off so I went carbon everything, matt carbon where possible. AMG Track package with an extra belt for the passenger side. AMG Sports Bucket seats with Yellow stitching, Black RXC wheels. Yellow seat belts. I did not go for the upgraded audio as I would rathe hear that engine!

Would be good if we had a thread that people could post their ordering options.

1312Supercars

Actually, I just read an article and talked to my Mercedes Benz Rep. The GTR is limited to just 2,000 units world wide over its 3 year run. In my opinion the first people to take deliveries of this car are going to make a pretty penny if they turn around and sell it quickly. Even owners later down the road will also likely not lose much... likely even make some.