Should I bail on the GTS and get a S63 coupe instead
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Performance oriented coupe vs luxury comfortable cruiser 🙄
I'd go other options except S63 coupe. It's just too different from what you want originally.
I'd go other options except S63 coupe. It's just too different from what you want originally.
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Why not just go S550 coupe with an ECU tune you get higher numbers than the S63 anyway. Still don't get why people go for the expensive 63 when you can just tune the lesser turbo engines.
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I don't NEED a car right now. I'm driving an SUV which will continue to be my bad weather ride. I'm just getting impatient . I realize the S63 is a sofa on wheels. I'm just wondering if the GTS is worth the wait . I see other cars available while I'm waiting.
Its just like when your engaged and waiting waiting for the wedding but a bunch of ***** come around and throw themselves at you. Sometimes, in a moment of weakness you cave in and tap one of them!
Its just like when your engaged and waiting waiting for the wedding but a bunch of ***** come around and throw themselves at you. Sometimes, in a moment of weakness you cave in and tap one of them!
You made a good choice in the GTS, so just see it through.
If you're growing impatient and require some immediate gratification, then go buy a nice watch - that usually works for me
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I think that you should bail on the GTS, and I'm not saying that just because I'm also waiting on a GTS, and wouldn't mind moving up a spot.
Oh, wait, yes, I am.
Oh, wait, yes, I am.
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its still a great choice for a 2nd or 3rd car.
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its a side hinged glass that opens up storage space made of leather with metal rails. You will never want to put anything back there that could scuff the leather, so it's not practical for anything but storing a pillow. Also the media interface is ****. It drives well but it's a hardcore car, more hardcore than a gts. Brakes require a lot of effort and there is no power steering.
its still a great choice for a 2nd or 3rd car.
its still a great choice for a 2nd or 3rd car.
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Possibly. I tried one a couple of weeks back. Really surprised about how good the build quality seemed to be. Switches felt good, interior was a nice place to be, very comfortable for me at least, no rattles and the doors felt really smooth. Obviously it isn't really a car to do the weekly shop in although it did have a bloody big frunk!
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The 570S can be all that and more but it sure does tank nicely LOL.
Wholesale is down to 160-170k depending on options for 16's.... its a great 2nd user car for sure.
Wholesale is down to 160-170k depending on options for 16's.... its a great 2nd user car for sure.
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hummmmmm define "way"
Here are the latest (rather large sampling) of auction prices which are under Lending Values and well under Retail. These are bare ball wholesale numbers pre transport, pre fee, pre recon, pre parts, etc... The majority of which will probably retail at 110-112k. Even with the recent new car large trunk money the 16's are still pretty strong.
There was 2 in the 80's but one had 17k miles and the other had a 3.6 CR. Even a 3.9 in Milwaukee pulled 101k. Of course they can't be like the GT3 Porsche (I had one back Dec of 2014 and did nicely on a resell).
Here are the latest (rather large sampling) of auction prices which are under Lending Values and well under Retail. These are bare ball wholesale numbers pre transport, pre fee, pre recon, pre parts, etc... The majority of which will probably retail at 110-112k. Even with the recent new car large trunk money the 16's are still pretty strong.
There was 2 in the 80's but one had 17k miles and the other had a 3.6 CR. Even a 3.9 in Milwaukee pulled 101k. Of course they can't be like the GT3 Porsche (I had one back Dec of 2014 and did nicely on a resell).
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So as for the McLaren at 220k average new with options to be selling for 190-180k and for the GTS average 150ish with options to sell for 100k or under, they are pretty close in depreciation.
My original point was that any AMG owner jumping into a McLaren, you will feel right at home with deprecation.
My original point was that any AMG owner jumping into a McLaren, you will feel right at home with deprecation.
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So as for the McLaren at 220k average new with options to be selling for 190-180k and for the GTS average 150ish with options to sell for 100k or under, they are pretty close in depreciation.
My original point was that any AMG owner jumping into a McLaren, you will feel right at home with deprecation.
My original point was that any AMG owner jumping into a McLaren, you will feel right at home with deprecation.
Knowing the insides of the banks who set the residuals on these two cars, who do you guess did a better job?
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I was just using round numbers, sorry about that. What did a 16 GTS well optioned sell for new? 150-160ish, more? If so, then wholesale or retail, they are not too far off each other as in depreciation. For a 4 or 5 year old(latest group of cars, I know they have been around) company McLaren is doing rather well in all categories except for depreciation. I wouldn't think twice on a decision between a 570S or a GTS, 570 all day every day with better looks, and tons better performance.
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Possibly. I tried one a couple of weeks back. Really surprised about how good the build quality seemed to be. Switches felt good, interior was a nice place to be, very comfortable for me at least, no rattles and the doors felt really smooth. Obviously it isn't really a car to do the weekly shop in although it did have a bloody big frunk!
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I was just using round numbers, sorry about that. What did a 16 GTS well optioned sell for new? 150-160ish, more? If so, then wholesale or retail, they are not too far off each other as in depreciation. For a 4 or 5 year old(latest group of cars, I know they have been around) company McLaren is doing rather well in all categories except for depreciation. I wouldn't think twice on a decision between a 570S or a GTS, 570 all day every day with better looks, and tons better performance.
Looks are highly subjective but the Mac to me is more exotic while the GTS is less aggressive. The McLaren is far more susceptible to valuation loss based on miles. One can drive a GTS more and not be as wary of the percentage to msrp drop. The GTS is also the more every day driver (as indicated by user miles in the market).
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I am having this dilemma: GTC or S63 Cab?
initially wanted the sports car, but at the end of the day, I will spend most of the time driving it with my wife and my puppy dog, Higgins.
No room for Higgins in the GTC, which is not nearly as cushy a ride for my wife.
My ML550 rode beautifully, and It took me some time to get used to the stiffness in my GLE63s....not sure I want to go into a stiffer car.
my priority is a convertible, not a sports car. I am incapable of not driving an AMG.
so I think I am going to keep my 2016 GLE63S and Get a full load diamond white 2018/19 S63 Cab with black crosshatch wheels, silver ash and silver seats and a full load.
I will almost never want to drive alone, and Higgins will do fine in tha back seats - and my wife will rest on a cloud....until I hit the sports + mode.....
initially wanted the sports car, but at the end of the day, I will spend most of the time driving it with my wife and my puppy dog, Higgins.
No room for Higgins in the GTC, which is not nearly as cushy a ride for my wife.
My ML550 rode beautifully, and It took me some time to get used to the stiffness in my GLE63s....not sure I want to go into a stiffer car.
my priority is a convertible, not a sports car. I am incapable of not driving an AMG.
so I think I am going to keep my 2016 GLE63S and Get a full load diamond white 2018/19 S63 Cab with black crosshatch wheels, silver ash and silver seats and a full load.
I will almost never want to drive alone, and Higgins will do fine in tha back seats - and my wife will rest on a cloud....until I hit the sports + mode.....
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My car is the GTS. The interior is tight with two people. A dog is a no go.
The S63 is a great car. If style . Comfort and convertible are your priorities, the S63 is more practical.
The S63 is a great car. If style . Comfort and convertible are your priorities, the S63 is more practical.
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I’ve owned 3 S63s (2 coupes) and yeah it looks boaty, but when you get behind the wheel you don’t really feel like it’s a boat. (My opinion) I was in exactly the same situation as you, check my posts. I ended up getting the GTR I wanted something raw more fun to drive now that doesn’t go without saying you’ll lose comfort and practicality. S63’s do depreciate a lot, but I don’t know if the GT’s do depreciate as much.
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I'm having the same dilemma, AMG GT or S Coupe. Basically I want a sports car that I can use for medium range trips (200-300 km) and not making me feel tired as f***.
The road noise/tire roar of the GT is my biggest concern or not being able to have a conversation at high speeds without yelling.
The road noise/tire roar of the GT is my biggest concern or not being able to have a conversation at high speeds without yelling.