WHAT’S DO THESE PICTURES HAVE TO DO WITH THE TOPIC??

Was just looking at this awful “build”. I actually feel bad for dealer.

Who wants 25k in carbon fiber and a stereo?

Please see my comment re: GT3 torque below. I follow this forum every day as I had an Edition 1 GT S that I planned to trade on a GT C Roadster for which I had an allocation. Early last year, I used any global English-language website to find DOGs and options lists to create the build spec only to learn that a DOG was available in the US. I canceled my order because the (large, SoCal) dealer claimed that, re: trade-in value, my low-mileage, perfect Ed1 would “park on the lot” and that “special editions aren’t worth any extra after 6 months”. I disagree. But, I canceled my order and bought a different brand. Sadly, this dealer did not have anyone knowledgeable or who valued AMG high-performance vehicles except possibly for the markup opportunities.

I recently traded our other car, a ‘15 911 Turbo S, on a new GT3. I’m responding simply to address the torque comment. I’m still breaking in the GT3, but surprisingly I’m not feeling a lack of low-RPM performance around town even though the torque is much less than the tts. The engine revs quickly and the car has a close-ratio transmission. (I have PDK even though I was a committed heel-and-toe, double-clutch downshifter all my life - I’m simply using the gearbox more with PDK than I did with a stick.) Finally, when I had the GT S, I was always getting comments, kids took videos, S-Class and Bentley drivers shouted “great car”. By comparison, my GT Silver Turbo S was almost invisible. I loved driving both cars equally, but the GT S was a visceral thrill and surprising great performer. Whether an AMG or 911, enjoy your car - most of us switch between brands and somehow manage to buy above our pay grade. I respect the fact that this forum can tolerate a well-intentioned discussion that involves non-AMG vehicles.

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scott, go on AMG private lounge and they have all the Dogs.

In response to question re: GT3 991.1 vs. 991.2 torque - not much difference: 339 lb-ft in .2; 324 in .1.

Further to my GT S experience: I agree with a previous commentor that the GT S was always an experience to drive - the drive modes, the sound and suspension settings. The GT3 is much more similar to that experience compared to the TTS, which although a wonderful automobile, seemed quite tame in comparison. Bottom line: when driving either one, I didn’t miss the other. Different but both terrific.

As this is an AMG forum, here are a couple of issues that I had resolved under warranty, which might help current MY16 GT S cars. I had a creaking noise in the suspension that occurred when going over uneven surfaces like driveways at an angle to save the splitter - that was a suspension crossmember that was replaced under warranty. It was sourced from Germany and reportedly not a safety/failure risk. I had a rattle at the back of the hatch presumably around the lock and this was fixed under warranty. Otherwise, build quality was fine.

My M-B Service Advisor was the best I’ve ever had. Sadly the sales unit didn’t match up. But as GuyNamedSean posted, I’ve dealt with others M-B dealerships that were great. I regret not seeing if someone might have been able to grab my allocation as FourT6and2 tried to do. I believe it would have been a very sweet GT C Roadster for someone just like it would have been a terrific companion for our other car, the Porsche.

Several months ago on the AMG members’ forum and at a performance driving academy session in late ‘15 (the academy is absolutely terrific and definitely worth attending!), I advocated for two things: (1) an AMG-knowledgeable person at every dealership who could assist the salesperson and the customer with facts and figures about AMG vehicles and assist with the ideal configuration especially on new cars early in the launch cycle. That person might receive a bonus when a deal closed in which he/she participated, but they would not compete with the salesperson for a commission (in a small dealership, the AMG expert could be another salesperson); and (2) have special programs for brand ambassadors like us who trade frequently, attend cars and coffee/cafe events and like talking about our rides. This could include optimal trade-in values especially when ending a lease early and providing the best possible rates for financing and leasing.

I’ll continue to follow this forum as its great discussions and to see members new AMG GT-series cars. BTW, we drove or Ed1 GT S from SoCal to Laguna Seca for the driving academy and it was astounding how much luggage we were able to stuff into the back and behind the seats! A true GT car.

I sold my 991.2 GTS pdk a few months ago. It was by far the most boring sports car I have ever owned. Everything was just ok, performance, sound, engagement, and this is from a car that supposedly laps around tracks faster than 991.1 GT3 but that’s not saying much either because the 991.1 GT3 was itself a very underwhelming sports car.

I sold my 991.1 TTS about a year ago and have regretted it ever since. Put aside the fact that there’s almost no sadness that can’t be reversed into a grin just be doing four or five consecutive launches, that car was a freaking beast. Sure not as visceral as a GTR or a Z07, but very few cars are, and that’s not what Porsche does anyway. I took that car to the track and slapped it around at every occasion and it didn’t blink once. I took it on road trips, I took it through rough city streets ... it basically did everything a track and a GT car is expected to do exceptionally, and she was a beauty. Man I miss that thing.

Whatever. Don't bring that success hating class warfare crap around here. Some of these people did the things in life that you were unwilling to do. It's not like all these people were born into royalty or won the lottery. I'm actually inspired when I talk to people who have achieved great things.

Can you explain what you mean? How is current/past owners talking about their cars and experiences elitist?

im not sure the build is awful. A lot of the cars are street racers with no intention of ever going to the track. The lack of CCB is the tell tale that this car was never meant to go to the track.

All the bling points to it was designed to be a trophy piece. The Carbon fiber on the GTR is purely decorative and not weight reducing . I’m not sure any one was concerned about building a lighter car. Remember my Pano Roof query ? Everyone said yay to a Heavy glass roof. Everyone also agreeed that they would OEM upgrade the stereo or do an aftermarket upgrade.

Im not sure why 46 and 2 dropped his GTR. Guess he just got tired of waiting . Waiting is bad for Buyers Remorse. You second guess your choices every day until the car is tangible . Then you remember , it’s just a friggin car. Who cares? If you don’t like it , sell it and get another .

The build is not outlandish. I’m sure it will sell quickly after it hits the Dealer if they sell it at MSRP OR LOWER.

Since it’s not in production until March I’m sort of surprised the build is locked. For sure it’s not a bad build, although for a street car the lack of CCBs is interesting and one option I’d never be without. Perhaps the dealer can add/subtract options later than a customer? If not I’m wondering if the OP paid a deposit to lock in the order and whether it was returned?

Bish

every day is a school day. My dealer told me the opposite and said if i wasn’t tracking it , to pass on ccb.

I think CCBs are better on the track but some track guys like getting the cheaper steel rotors and just replacing when needed.

Without a doubt the CCBs are nice to have on the street due to the almost non-existence of brake dust. They are also a help for handling due to the decreased unsprung weight at all four corners. As for the track it’s been reported in some reviews that the iron brakes can be prone to fade, something that iirc has not been reported with the CCMs. Time will tell in the spring as more of us can get the car onto a road course. Re: costs: obviously replacing a CCM rotor is going to be markedly more expensive than an iron one, but IF the rotor is like the current gen 3 Porsche CCM rotor, it should handle street and light track duty; (4-5 DE weekends/year) well. Another reason they’re worth it to me.

I started another thread here seeing if anyone had loads of info on the GTR’s CCM brakes; (manufacturer; size; replacement choices, etc.), but so far not much info forthcoming.

Bish

More pics of my Agate and although I do agree if you can only have either the GT3 or the GTR the GT3 is the car to have the agate is grey not brown.