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Old 05-29-2018, 04:20 PM
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I beg to disagree! But playfully. I too live in So Cal, have all my life, and find that a cap and some SPF 10 million are all that's needed. I have my top down 90% of the time. Different needs for different folks...no?
I agree here John, I just got a GTS (991.2) Cab and use the function quite often. Now I dont like a ton of wind hitting my eyes so the 991 is awesome with the the way its set up to avoid excessive wind and buffeting. I dont know how well the GTC is set up in this regard but my SL63 was ok but not as good as the 991 with the windscreen up.

The most important part for me was the chassis flex or lack of it and the magnesium component set up of the roof made me more comfortable with my soft decision after a decent test drive.
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Originally Posted by Vic55
I agree here John, I just got a GTS (991.2) Cab and use the function quite often. Now I dont like a ton of wind hitting my eyes so the 991 is awesome with the the way its set up to avoid excessive wind and buffeting. I dont know how well the GTC is set up in this regard but my SL63 was ok but not as good as the 991 with the windscreen up.

The most important part for me was the chassis flex or lack of it and the magnesium component set up of the roof made me more comfortable with my soft decision after a decent test drive.
The GTC is set up well for no air hitting the eyes...at least mine. I'm 6'0" and I've never had a problem. In fact I usually wear a cap and don't have to worry about it flying off either. It could be due to the wind blocker/spoiler that is set between the two seats. Also I notice nil chassis flex...not even on my favorite on/off ramps. Anyone else love the transition from the 405 northbound to the 133 South? My, my, my. With the GTS my record was 54 mph but with the GTC I've gotten to 57 mph. I don't know about the min speed but that's the max for me so far.

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thanks again for your suggestions second week in july production white/black/black/ roadster. 13percent off the sticker.
It's a good thing that you ordered 2019 GT-C, because MB USA just scrapped the previously announced 2019 GT-S Roadster and... all the orders, which are already made will be cancelled. You can read it here: 2019 GT-Class Update . I think GT-C should be fine, since it was available in 2018 model year..
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Yea i wasnt surprised... When I got the originally email about the gts cab from my dm, I said... "why" lol
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I think MB is readying itself for the Germany-US Import Tax war.

If import taxes into the US are increased to 10% which would equate to $15k on a $150k (base price) car, then will see a huge slow down in sales.

That could certainly help the near new/used market but decimate the new German market here.

Stay tuned. It isn’t official....yet.

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Originally Posted by JSwan724
I think MB is readying itself for the Germany-US Import Tax war.

If import taxes into the US are increased to 10% which would equate to $15k on a $150k (base price) car, then will see a huge slow down in sales.

That could certainly help the near new/used market but decimate the new German market here.

Stay tuned. It isn’t official....yet.

Trump sometimes makes sense... but sometime he makes no sense whatsoever, especially after you read this: Trump wants to ban Mercedes-Benz in U.S.
Mercedes is #1 luxury brand in U.S in sales... not because of taxes or high prices... but because it's a good product. He is not familiar with the free market concept, and he has no support from Republicans on that issue, so I don't think it's feasible.. Historically the Protectionism has never worked and actually it slows down the economic growth.. Also MB is a huge employer and job-creator right here in United States.
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It won't just be tariffs on foreign car imports that affect pricing. Steel and aluminum EU taiffs will also have a trickle down effect on foreign luxury car prices.
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The Republican Party has historically been for low tariffs so this will be interesting.
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Originally Posted by MalibuScott
The Republican Party has historically been for low tariffs so this will be interesting.

You guys are the experts here but I think Trump wants the US to pay the same rate as the Germans charge us....no more no less.

If they don’t resolve this soon before the 2019’s start hitting the US VPC’S the dealer traffic is going to be real sparse.

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Originally Posted by JSwan724



You guys are the experts here but I think Trump wants the US to pay the same rate as the Germans charge us....no more no less.

If they don’t resolve this soon before the 2019’s start hitting the US VPC’S the dealer traffic is going to be real sparse.

If U.S will even the tax filed - we'll be in even more trouble. U.S imposes 2.5% tariff for imported cars... but 25% for imported trucks! There is a reason why GLA, GLS and GLE are built in Alabama. EU charges 10% flat. Now the vast majority of American vehicles sold are actually pickup trucks and SUV. But as I said before, the reason most American cars are not sold in EU has nothing to do with the taxes. There's no demand for pickup trucks or big gas-guzzling SUV's in Europe. Plus, German cars offer better quality in general.

German cars are dominating the market because they offer a better product. As simple as that. The same way as Apple, Google and Paramount Pictures etc... dominating Germany - by offering very competitive product. That's how the free market works and I still think Ronald Reagan was the last President to embrace the principles. Everybody who came after him, actually prefers an artificial regulations instead of the natural flow.
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Watching squeak box this week and they cited we import 8 million cars each year. So just looking at tariff % is one small part, and this is why we have such huge defecits.
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I also think that was used as a heads up message. Taxing those cars significantly affects their sales in the us, which Is a giant market for those brands. Their numbers will drop if US doesn’t buy as many as it does and that is costly for them. It’s a way to let the German leaders know what could happen if they don’t oblige to other US requests/demands. Of course the public picks it up and run with it to create political hype.
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Originally Posted by JSwan724



You guys are the experts here but I think Trump wants the US to pay the same rate as the Germans charge us....no more no less.

If they don’t resolve this soon before the 2019’s start hitting the US VPC’S the dealer traffic is going to be real sparse.

Yea we are near DC and any policy change affects our business heavily... we shall see.
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Originally Posted by susman@eurogermantown.com
Yea we are near DC and any policy change affects our business heavily... we shall see.

Yea, I know your area real well since I grew up and went to high school and some of my college (UM College Park) there.

I still even have friends there. Imagine that. 😎

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Every time a President has used tariffs to ‘protect’ US industry in the last 50+ years it has caused more problems than it has solved, and generally always cost jobs, in the particular industry(s) that the tariffs were supposed to help.
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Yea, I know your area real well since I grew up and went to high school and some of my college (UM College Park) there.

I still even have friends there. Imagine that. 😎

Nice you should come visit haha.. dont you miss the traffic? lol
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Originally Posted by susman@eurogermantown.com
Nice you should come visit haha.. dont you miss the traffic? lol
I have learned to travel into and out of that area at night....😎😎 Don’t be surprised if I pop up one day to visit.
I’ll need to get a wash and a free cup of coffee. ☕️☕️

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I also think that was used as a heads up message. Taxing those cars significantly affects their sales in the us, which Is a giant market for those brands. Their numbers will drop if US doesn’t buy as many as it does and that is costly for them. It’s a way to let the German leaders know what could happen if they don’t oblige to other US requests/demands. Of course the public picks it up and run with it to create political hype.
If you set politics aside, you should see there is no winner in any trade war. And by the way, U.S is a big market, but much smaller than EU market for Daimler. Currently there is no growth of MB sales in U.S. The only reason Daimler still shows economic growth is because of the fast growth in sales in the emerging markets like India and China. As a matter of fact MB already opened factories in China, which is by far the friendliest place for any business to expand at the moment. Everybody including Europe, Canada and Asia already prepared to retaliate imposing taxes on U.S. goods. While I'm not worried about Google, Apple, Coca-Cola etc.. - they can take financial hit easily, the first biggest losers will be U.S agriculture with it's vast world wide operations. Much bigger industry than any steel companies combined.

Plus the U.S success is heavily relies on it's friends position around the Globe. But when you start turning friends into enemies, you can lose your position very fast. Protectionism has never worked in the history of mankind. And when someone doesn't study history, then he will make the same mistakes that were already made by someone else before. It's very easy: If you want to be competitive, you need to offer a better product or better solution.
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Originally Posted by JSwan724


I have learned to travel into and out of that area at night....😎😎 Don’t be surprised if I pop up one day to visit.
I’ll need to get a wash and a free cup of coffee. ☕️☕️

Best Regards

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Np.. let me know

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