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N91K 06-11-2018 05:01 AM

New owner with slower GTS
 
Hello everyone,

I just bought a used GTS edition one with 4000 miles on the clock. The car history in the dealer is clean and there are no messages on the dash however before driving the car i tested my friend's GTS it felt much much faster than mine and no turbo lag whatsoever although my friend's GTS has almost triple the miles on mine. Any ideas on what it may be? The previous owner did say he never used 95 fuel (it was only recently introduced in my country) and he never used the car in S S+ or Race mode! It just feels like the car is heavier and slow to respond!

PS- the weather these days reaches up to 113F

Thank you i would appreciate any input!

thecutter64 06-11-2018 09:30 AM

Sounds as though the previous owner babied his car and didn’t break it in. He may have put a few miles on it but didn’t push it. The engine needs to limber up so to speak . It will react differently after you put some miles on it where it’s being pushed further.

N91K 06-11-2018 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by thecutter64 (Post 7475779)
Sounds as though the previous owner babied his car and didn’t break it in. He may have put a few miles on it but didn’t push it. The engine needs to limber up so to speak . It will react differently after you put some miles on it where it’s being pushed further.

I appreciate your input thank you!

MalibuScott 06-11-2018 10:49 AM

Other possible differences: tires, wheels and weight.

AMG 17GT 06-11-2018 11:50 AM

I would still run a diagnostic at dealer. Maybe IC not performing 100% in that hot weather

benzbell 06-11-2018 11:57 AM

What is your engine oil and trans temp on a 113F day?

N91K 06-11-2018 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by AMG 17GT (Post 7475901)
I would still run a diagnostic at dealer. Maybe IC not performing 100% in that hot weather

I took it and they said everything was totally fine.

N91K 06-11-2018 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by MalibuScott (Post 7475849)
Other possible differences: tires, wheels and weight.

It is similar to the other GTS and weight too.

N91K 06-11-2018 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by benzbell (Post 7475908)
What is your engine oil and trans temp on a 113F day?

Oil change was done at the dealer 6 months ago and the trans temp i did not check to be honest.

Vic55 06-11-2018 12:46 PM

Get the car on a dyno- that will tell you.

300blackout 06-11-2018 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Vic55 (Post 7475939)
Get the car on a dyno- that will tell you.

+1 . More accurate than butt dyno.

N91K 06-11-2018 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Vic55 (Post 7475939)
Get the car on a dyno- that will tell you.

Good idea!

thebishman 06-11-2018 06:38 PM

If he's been driving it in 'C' mode most of the time and not rolling into the throttle often, the car may well have adapted to a 'granny' style of driving. Get to some open roads; place the car in 'S/S+' and floor the throttle when its safe to do so. Also use 'M' mode for the gear box and get it up to the upper reaches of the rev band.

I'd do the above first. If it doesn't start acting like your friend's GTS I'd do as Vic and others have recommended; get it on a dyno and see what hp/torque its putting out at the wheels.

Let us know what happens.

Bish

Jan AMG 06-11-2018 06:49 PM

What a fun task to do :D

Case1906 06-11-2018 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by N91K (Post 7475693)
Hello everyone,

I just bought a used GTS edition one with 4000 miles on the clock. The car history in the dealer is clean and there are no messages on the dash however before driving the car i tested my friend's GTS it felt much much faster than mine and no turbo lag whatsoever although my friend's GTS has almost triple the miles on mine. Any ideas on what it may be? The previous owner did say he never used 95 fuel (it was only recently introduced in my country) and he never used the car in S S+ or Race mode! It just feels like the car is heavier and slow to respond!

PS- the weather these days reaches up to 113F

Thank you i would appreciate any input!

Maybe your friend has a secret tune?

N91K 06-12-2018 03:28 AM


Originally Posted by thebishman (Post 7476253)
If he's been driving it in 'C' mode most of the time and not rolling into the throttle often, the car may well have adapted to a 'granny' style of driving. Get to some open roads; place the car in 'S/S+' and floor the throttle when its safe to do so. Also use 'M' mode for the gear box and get it up to the upper reaches of the rev band.

I'd do the above first. If it doesn't start acting like your friend's GTS I'd do as Vic and others have recommended; get it on a dyno and see what hp/torque its putting out at the wheels.

Let us know what happens.

Bish

I will do what you said but how long do you think this would need? So that i just have a rough idea on when to move to the second plan.


Originally Posted by Case1906 (Post 7476472)


Maybe your friend has a secret tune?

No it is bone stock but the he is an aggressive driver most of the time!

06032 06-12-2018 09:13 AM

Might your friend's car have a tune? There is a measurable difference in performance with/without.

thebishman 06-12-2018 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by N91K (Post 7476558)
I will do what you said but how long do you think this would need? So that i just have a rough idea on when to move to the second plan.



No it is bone stock but the he is an aggressive driver most of the time!

A couple of hours tops? Maybe just a couple of high speed runs.

N91K 06-12-2018 03:43 PM

I took the car out tonight for a long drive and pushed it and on the way back i noticed it acted differently! Thank you all for the help and feedback, turned out it was babied like a few of you said!

S63AMG888 06-12-2018 03:46 PM

Maybe ask the dealer reset the adaptation so your car can re-learn YOUR driving style, IF dyno shows the power and tq is there?

cproGT 06-13-2018 04:37 PM

What color is your friends car?....Darker colors are faster:bump:

Cory @ Weistec 06-13-2018 05:33 PM

Don't forget... There's a slew of options available if it's still not fast enough to suit your needs!

Weistec always has your back. :zoom:

triblk6spd 06-21-2018 10:19 PM

So I can say this without hesitation...my car on a 70 degree day is absolutely faster than it is on a 110 degree day (of which we've had a few close to 110 lately). Air intake temperature is a huge factor both in regards to power made by literally by the cool air and the power the car is allowed to make by the ECM due to air intake and exterior air temp. I'm guessing here but I bet I'm down 50hp between 70 and 100 degree day.

300blackout 06-21-2018 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by triblk6spd (Post 7485104)
So I can say this without hesitation...my car on a 70 degree day is absolutely faster than it is on a 110 degree day (of which we've had a few close to 110 lately). Air intake temperature is a huge factor both in regards to power made by literally by the cool air and the power the car is allowed to make by the ECM due to air intake and exterior air temp. I'm guessing here but I bet I'm down 50hp between 70 and 100 degree day.

Good reason to install water methanol injection

emericr 06-23-2018 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by 300blackout (Post 7485120)
Good reason to install water methanol injection

I am in South Fl and could not agree more with triblk6spd's statement. I really can feel the difference especially in second gear when the ECU allows the full beans. Waiting on your review before pulling the trigger on the matter. Chop chop Mister ;)


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