Help our 2019 Blue GTR order
06-30-2018, 01:10 AM
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I disagree, for the price of PPCB against cost for performance they are not worth it .
the fade is rectified with correct break in and change of fluid .
Not to mention resale, one would never get the cost of brakes back.
The PCCB aid debatable regarding life use. 80 minutes of tracl laps they require replacement .
Refer to rennsport and they will suggest the same no value in PCCB
06-30-2018, 05:12 AM
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I disagree, for the price of PPCB against cost for performance they are not worth it .
the fade is rectified with correct break in and change of fluid .
Not to mention resale, one would never get the cost of brakes back.
The PCCB aid debatable regarding life use. 80 minutes of tracl laps they require replacement .
i do not believe we’ve heard from a GT R owner giving the car a really good work-out on a road course state that the iron brakes are in anyway adequate. If you car comes so equipped and you track the car, I’ll be interested to hear your thoughts. For sure changing to track pads with the iron brakes is going to make one hell of a racket unless you constantly switch back to the street pads ASAP, but then you’ll probably be bothered by pad deposit inconsistencies.
Re: “PCCB rotor life being 80 hours”. This is not the experience at all of Porsche owners running with the Gen 3 rotors. Read Rennlist again.
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06-30-2018, 06:23 AM
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While I own two Mercedes Benz.. And am Looking for a project track amg.. I do track a corvette with carbon ceramics and do love the brakes.. The tires (cup2) give up way before the brakes every have.
06-30-2018, 03:35 PM
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CCM/GTR
What you are stating is an n = 1! Yours!
The CCM’s will last the life of the car if just driven on the street, as well as keeping the wheels cleaner. Whether anyone can tell the difference in unsprung weight particularly when street driven is highly debatable, but it is an extra benefit. And to be perfectly honest the ‘gold’ CCM caliper looks far better than the yellow option colour. IMHO of course.
As for the track: time and time again the ‘professional’ reviews of the car in respected magazines stated almost unanimously that the GT Rs with iron rotors experienced fade on the track. This does not happen with the CCMs although one has to upgrade to a top-of-the-line DOT 4 brake fluid due to the heat generated. They just stop the car without fade consistently at a normal HPDE event. Re: cost: the CCMs on the GT R are the same type of rotor as the Gen 3 PCCBs found on Porsche’s, and as such given the experiences of owners of those cars, hold up extremely well on a road course longevity wise. This has been confirmed to me by John Gaydos at Autoquest who anecdotally feels that whilst earlier Gen 2 PCCBs might be able to do 2K track miles before the need to be replaced, the Gen 3s can probably do 4K track miles. That’s a lot of track miles for a weekend warrior to accumulate at the track at HPDEs. That mileage may well be extended further by replacing the pads early; something I intend to do.
Bottom line: there’s a reason the vast majority of GT Rs being driven are equipped with CCMs, and it’s not to do with cost.
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06-30-2018, 05:39 PM
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I'm happy blue is a unique color. Don't really care about color opinions from those who don't even own a GT/GTS/GTR and are basing their view on internet photos and not in real life.
Commuting everyday, I witness a blah ocean of silver, gray, white and black cars that all seem to blend together.
Commuting everyday, I witness a blah ocean of silver, gray, white and black cars that all seem to blend together.
I somehow talked myself self into buying a blue g550 4x4 squared.....traded my white GTS in for it. I told myself the designo Mauritius blue was a special blue and different from other blues and a really cool color. Started to hate it after about 2 weeks. Will never buy blue again.
06-30-2018, 05:51 PM
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06-30-2018, 07:06 PM
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I somehow talked myself self into buying a blue g550 4x4 squared.....traded my white GTS in for it. I told myself the designo Mauritius blue was a special blue and different from other blues and a really cool color. Started to hate it after about 2 weeks. Will never buy blue again.
Saw a brilliant blue C300 and was not impressed.
Blue GTS/GTR looks ****.
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06-30-2018, 09:35 PM
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99% of cars look “meh” or worse in blue.
07-01-2018, 09:27 AM
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Not really a bad trade , figured I would wrap it if I didn’t like the color and getting it at msrp when they were selling for 50-75k over msrp clinched it for me.... wound up making money off it but didn’t really enjoy the car. The blue is probably the sole reason the dealer let it go at msrp in the first place.
99% of cars look “meh” or worse in blue.
A wrap is never going to look as good as factory paint on a vehicle that size.
I guess it’s true what they say about opinions. This tells me all I need to know about yours.
07-01-2018, 10:19 AM
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So you settled for a less desirable color to save money and then quickly dumped the G550 after hating the car within a 2 week time frame?
A wrap is never going to look as good as factory paint on a vehicle that size.
I guess it’s true what they say about opinions. This tells me all I need to know about yours.
save money? No...the vehicle is hard to find.
2 weeks? No .... 9 months. Hated it after 2 weeks , “dumped” it 9 months later for 20k over MSRP. Good trade.
GTR would be next and you couldn’t sell it to me for $30k below MSRP in blue.
All wraps look better than blue paint
07-01-2018, 12:30 PM
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Man this thread went in a direction I didn't expect lol..
07-01-2018, 03:58 PM
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I'm happy blue is a unique color. Don't really care about color opinions from those who don't even own a GT/GTS/GTR and are basing their view on internet photos and not in real life.
Commuting everyday, I witness a blah ocean of silver, gray, white and black cars that all seem to blend together.
Commuting everyday, I witness a blah ocean of silver, gray, white and black cars that all seem to blend together.
Its a sports car keep the vibrant unique colors coming!!!!
07-01-2018, 09:10 PM
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Looks like we helped so much to build the brilliant blue GT R that it's now a grey color.
07-01-2018, 09:57 PM
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I actually had it back to blue until yesterday ... Still so back and forth
07-01-2018, 10:03 PM
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just because one bloke didn’t like blue should not change your order.
someone else loved it as they paid $20k over Msrp to a private seller.
the blue will sell it’s the only one and looks incredibly smart.
It needs yellow stitch though.
07-01-2018, 10:21 PM
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I'm actually selling a 18 G63 tomorrow in Blue..
If I make the GTR blue, I'm gonna need you all to help me find a buyer
If I make the GTR blue, I'm gonna need you all to help me find a buyer
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07-02-2018, 07:08 PM
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07-02-2018, 09:24 PM
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07-03-2018, 06:34 AM
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On that note, I do actually think Josh Rosen will be the best of the rookie qbs in the NFL..
