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no Ccb just crazy. This has become one of the biggest problems with dealerships. To be fair they are all doing it not just MB. The only way to get around this is to try and establish a great relationship with your dealer and above the salesperson level.
And with all due respect to GTR owners, 60k ADM is just not happening in the market right now with GTR's- maybe on certain Porsche GT models.
And with all due respect to GTR owners, 60k ADM is just not happening in the market right now with GTR's- maybe on certain Porsche GT models.
agreed on Porsche GT cars, but I wouldn’t pay Msrp for the gtr. Not limited/numbered and will build for several years. To be fair, so I’m not tarred and feathered, my turbo s is in the same boat. They are depreciating toys period ! Sad to see these dealers taking advantage and giving false information.
agreed on Porsche GT cars, but I wouldn’t pay Msrp for the gtr. Not limited/numbered and will build for several years. To be fair, so I’m not tarred and feathered, my turbo s is in the same boat. They are depreciating toys period ! Sad to see these dealers taking advantage and giving false information.
Turbo S's still have a better curve than Benz GT cars. I have had 5 and was able to sell almost all of them without taking a fat bath that is usually associated with AMG. But I do get nice up front pricing from PCNA. Right now Turbo S 991.2's are not doing that bad in year 1-2 where we see the steepest curves on depreciation.
Turbo S's still have a better curve than Benz GT cars. I have had 5 and was able to sell almost all of them without taking a fat bath that is usually associated with AMG. But I do get nice up front pricing from PCNA. Right now Turbo S 991.2's are not doing that bad in year 1-2 where we see the steepest curves on depreciation.
lol I was just trying to be diplomatic. Turbo car allocations are few and they do hold they’re value better than most. My 17 car is 2/1/2 years old and I was offered 175 from one dealer and 170 from another when I was looking at a Lamborghini about two months ago. I paid 190. Again just trying to keep the peace.
Not Free Range air. Especially if it’s imported. I think Tommy Callahan should be sent in to negotiate with these guys. You can stick your head up a bull’s as....
Actually the air here is Free Range AND Artisanal. As well there is an occasional sprinkling of unicorn tears. Just ask Vic.
lol I was just trying to be diplomatic. Turbo car allocations are few and they do hold they’re value better than most. My 17 car is 2/1/2 years old and I was offered 175 from one dealer and 170 from another when I was looking at a Lamborghini about two months ago. I paid 190. Again just trying to keep the peace.
That seems to be the exception. 2016 turbo s with low miles are selling for under $150K several with original msrp well north of $200k. In my experience owning multiple 911s, the turbo s trims have the worst depreciation of the various iterations often due to the bloated msrp. Especially compared to the GT3 trims. Peruse Rennlist and you will see this theme.
That seems to be the exception. 2016 turbo s with low miles are selling for under $150K several with original msrp well north of $200k. In my experience owning multiple 911s, the turbo s trims have the worst depreciation of the various iterations often due to the bloated msrp. Especially compared to the GT3 trims. Peruse Rennlist and you will see this theme.
Most gen 1 turbo S's had a median of 195-200k, but a 16 Turbo S is 3 years old now based on release dates.
The average sale at the auction is around 155 with 9k miles-- so about 40-45k in 3 years which is not really bad based on the price point. I know these are just averages and I know there were some builds that got really up there but there were also alot of standard builds in the 190's (Im talking Gen 1's). I personally sold my 2007 Turbo 3 years later for a gain. I sold my 2011 Turbo for a gain 2 years later. I lost money on my 14 and 16's but it was not AMG mind blowing based on the initial price points. TD has a .2 and they are really limited those builds now....
My friend owns a high end dealership here in Newport and he is killing it on the slightly used gen 2's since inventory is so light. Of course as production boosts, then the values will come down. And I 100% agree about the GT3 cars- those things annoy me price wise LOL.
Most gen 1 turbo S's had a median of 195-200k, but a 16 Turbo S is 3 years old now based on release dates.
The average sale at the auction is around 155 with 9k miles-- so about 40-45k in 3 years which is not really bad based on the price point. I know these are just averages and I know there were some builds that got really up there but there were also alot of standard builds in the 190's (Im talking Gen 1's). I personally sold my 2007 Turbo 3 years later for a gain. I sold my 2011 Turbo for a gain 2 years later. I lost money on my 14 and 16's but it was not AMG mind blowing based on the initial price points. TD has a .2 and they are really limited those builds now....
My friend owns a high end dealership here in Newport and he is killing it on the slightly used gen 2's since inventory is so light. Of course as production boosts, then the values will come down. And I 100% agree about the GT3 cars- those things annoy me price wise LOL.
You ain’t got to lie. We know you ain’t got no friends. I’ve seen your sad *** MySpace account. It’s Tom, Hyperion and the dude who’s gonna pay $60k over MSRP for this GT-R.
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A mere $60,000 markup. Fletcher Jones must have a line around the block.
I remember when Fletcher Jones sold cheap American cars in downtown L.A. Not too far from USC where Jones had gone to law school. The dealership didn't have a very good reputation then. I see they are striving to go back in time.
You ain’t got to lie. We know you ain’t got no friends. I’ve seen your sad *** MySpace account. It’s Tom, Hyperion and the dude who’s gonna pay $60k over MSRP for this GT-R.
I live 3 miles from F.J. Newport and drove 60 miles South to purchase my GTS. Wouldn't go near any F.J. stores.......this confirms even more...
11 AMG's and other Benzes and I have never bought one from the #1 store in the US (Newport yeah its #1) but lets just be clear, this GTR is being sold at the Ontario store which is not Newport or the biggest. But I still wouldnt buy from Newport
11 AMG's and other Benzes and I have never bought one from the #1 store in the US (Newport yeah its #1) but lets just be clear, this GTR is being sold at the Ontario store which is not Newport or the biggest. But I still wouldnt buy from Newport
You buy all your cars from Cal Worthington. Don’t front.
Don’t know the final purchased price, but apparently this Black GTR was special enough to be purchased less than 1 week on the showroom floor. Guess why FJ retain the #1 spot for Socal. That was a fast sale. Happy for the new owner.
11 AMG's and other Benzes and I have never bought one from the #1 store in the US (Newport yeah its #1) but lets just be clear, this GTR is being sold at the Ontario store which is not Newport or the biggest. But I still wouldnt buy from Newport
House of Import? Smaller than Ontario Mercedes isn’t it?
Don’t know the final purchased price, but apparently this Black GTR was special enough to be purchased less than 1 week on the showroom floor. Guess why FJ retain the #1 spot for Socal. That was a fast sale. Happy for the new owner.
Do you really bring your car to a car dealer to get it washed and detailed?
Do you really bring your car to a car dealer to get it washed and detailed?
I do, 3-4 times a week for both Mercedes. It’s hands free wash and clean, did I mentioned it’s free and I live about 5 miles away and also it’s on the way to the office. Best free vanilla latte from any dealer I’ve tasted. Messsage chairs and a great service department. Detail, no. Love the before and after sales services. Highly recommended.
No House is bigger: the largest in the Region is FJ Newport, then Keyes, then House.
The reason FJ is #1 is not because they sold that GTR but because they ***** out commodity Benzes.
Did Triple G buy that GTR LOL....
My bad Vic. I thought I read somewhere you recommended HOI. Yes FJ whole sales allot of their inventory, but also retails out allot though their private FJ stores including NorCal and Las Vegas. Had bad experience working with Keys and thought Rusnak moves more retail than HOI. I could be wrong, but FJ does have its befits.
My bad Vic. I thought I read somewhere you recommended HOI. Yes FJ whole sales allot of their inventory, but also retails out allot though their private FJ stores including NorCal and Las Vegas. Had bad experience working with Keys and thought Rusnak moves more retail than HOI. I could be wrong, but FJ does have its befits.
I did recommend House and several members here have bought cars from them. I have personally taken 6 AMG's from them and 3 non AMG's. I never mentioned wholesaling, I said whoring which is triple net blow out of their commodity units. Wholesaling wont allow them to RS the unit or claim a sale with MBUSA.
Generally FJ is one with Keyes right behind. Then the challenge for #3 used to be between House and MBZ Laguna... but currently in the Western Region it goes FJ, Keyes, House. And the House sells a ton of used cars which doesnt even count in RDR's (new car numbers). Laguna is dying a slow death now LOL. Rusnak is not close and Ontario runs close with House prob #4 right now.
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