AMG GTR Ceramics ... Should I get this deal ??
10-15-2018, 05:50 AM
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AMG GTR Ceramics ... Should I get this deal ??
I have an incoming GTR and I have standard brakes .
I have been given the option to upgrade my brakes to ceramics genuine brand new OEM full set for the same price as listed on the new car option list
this would give me a full set of steel’s brand new yellow calipers discs and pads. Entire set for free.
I have been told ceramics make squeal noise
are overly responsive “grabby” in GTR
and obviously they are quite expensive.
i can sell the new steel brakes for a few thousand dollars or run them down then swap
i have bucket seats as I am tall though don’t plan to really track the car however ceramics could be a nice option if I did as I know they don’t seem overheat
i don’t think I would get the investment back in resale
5% iof the car price as the upgrade ?
dilemma !!!
I have been given the option to upgrade my brakes to ceramics genuine brand new OEM full set for the same price as listed on the new car option list
this would give me a full set of steel’s brand new yellow calipers discs and pads. Entire set for free.
I have been told ceramics make squeal noise
are overly responsive “grabby” in GTR
and obviously they are quite expensive.
i can sell the new steel brakes for a few thousand dollars or run them down then swap
i have bucket seats as I am tall though don’t plan to really track the car however ceramics could be a nice option if I did as I know they don’t seem overheat
i don’t think I would get the investment back in resale
5% iof the car price as the upgrade ?
dilemma !!!
Last edited by Karter34; 10-15-2018 at 06:09 AM.
10-15-2018, 07:18 AM
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that is an interesting offer but I'm not sure it's any kind of a deal... I do have ceramics on a couple of other cars and never had them squeal.. and they really stop well time after time.. when I specked my GT/C roadster I left the option off knowing I would never track the car...saw a note on this web-site noting that at the AMG performance driving academy that all the cars including the GT-R had steel brakes... and it's certainly interesting that ever since Porsche and Ferrari first made them available as $8k options years ago, that the price has never come down when the volume of production has increased.. so I think it's just a huge profit center for them... plus, who are you going to sell the steel set to ??
10-15-2018, 07:23 AM
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I never had a single issue with the carbon ceramic brakes on the gtr.
Imo they are perfect , amazing both on track and around the city :-).
no noise , they look sick and more important it helps the handling and steering 😍😍
Imo they are perfect , amazing both on track and around the city :-).
no noise , they look sick and more important it helps the handling and steering 😍😍
10-15-2018, 03:53 PM
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also no dust and lasts way longer... Im sure the AMG academy acrs get abused more than the average person.. I do a track day a month, but those cars do 3-4 a week... Im sure its a cost thing
10-15-2018, 04:35 PM
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I assume they are replacing the rotors and the pads. Why would they give you the old metal rotors and brakes ?
They are going to upgrade the brakes, do the work and give you the old brakes for no cost? Doesn’t sound cost effective after you have already ordered the car.
They are going to upgrade the brakes, do the work and give you the old brakes for no cost? Doesn’t sound cost effective after you have already ordered the car.
10-15-2018, 04:42 PM
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that is an interesting offer but I'm not sure it's any kind of a deal... I do have ceramics on a couple of other cars and never had them squeal.. and they really stop well time after time.. when I specked my GT/C roadster I left the option off knowing I would never track the car...saw a note on this web-site noting that at the AMG performance driving academy that all the cars including the GT-R had steel brakes... and it's certainly interesting that ever since Porsche and Ferrari first made them available as $8k options years ago, that the price has never come down when the volume of production has increased.. so I think it's just a huge profit center for them... plus, who are you going to sell the steel set to ??
IMO, CCB's are well priced with the car as the replacement rotors costs much more than the original price. They actually are more extensive to manufacture and typically lasts much longer than steels and produce no brake dust. Worth the price for that alone : )
10-15-2018, 04:44 PM
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I assume they are replacing the rotors and the pads. Why would they give you the old metal rotors and brakes ?
They are going to upgrade the brakes, do the work and give you the old brakes for no cost? Doesn’t sound cost effective after you have already ordered the car.
They are going to upgrade the brakes, do the work and give you the old brakes for no cost? Doesn’t sound cost effective after you have already ordered the car.
its a a brand new car so the original rotors and brakes that come with the car are steel.
So they are not exchanging them .
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I have an incoming GTR and I have standard brakes .
I have been given the option to upgrade my brakes to ceramics genuine brand new OEM full set for the same price as listed on the new car option list
this would give me a full set of steel’s brand new yellow calipers discs and pads. Entire set for free.
I have been told ceramics make squeal noise
are overly responsive “grabby” in GTR
and obviously they are quite expensive.
i can sell the new steel brakes for a few thousand dollars or run them down then swap
i have bucket seats as I am tall though don’t plan to really track the car however ceramics could be a nice option if I did as I know they don’t seem overheat
i don’t think I would get the investment back in resale
5% iof the car price as the upgrade ?
dilemma !!!
I have been given the option to upgrade my brakes to ceramics genuine brand new OEM full set for the same price as listed on the new car option list
this would give me a full set of steel’s brand new yellow calipers discs and pads. Entire set for free.
I have been told ceramics make squeal noise
are overly responsive “grabby” in GTR
and obviously they are quite expensive.
i can sell the new steel brakes for a few thousand dollars or run them down then swap
i have bucket seats as I am tall though don’t plan to really track the car however ceramics could be a nice option if I did as I know they don’t seem overheat
i don’t think I would get the investment back in resale
5% iof the car price as the upgrade ?
dilemma !!!
10-15-2018, 05:51 PM
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if they are upgrading, the steel rotors and steel pads are removed and replaced with different rotors and pads. Unless they order it from MB in which case there are no extra parts to be had
10-15-2018, 05:54 PM
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The CCBs are far superior in every respect versus the iron brakes. If you can get them installed for the same price as the option costs definitely do it. On the street you will not wear out a rotor as long as you keep the car unless you damage the rotor somehow such as allowing the pads to get too worn., or if someone is careless when taking off/installing wheels.
All of the GT Rs at the Academy have the CCBs as the iron brakes are quite ****e on track and fade quickly; the CCBs just stop the car lap after lap.
As as far as being ‘grabby’: they can be that way if they haven’t been properly burnished when new. It’s an easy process to do and makes the CCBs incredibly linear. Highly recommended that anyone who owns a car with CCBs do this IF they find the CCBs to be ‘grabby’.
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All of the GT Rs at the Academy have the CCBs as the iron brakes are quite ****e on track and fade quickly; the CCBs just stop the car lap after lap.
As as far as being ‘grabby’: they can be that way if they haven’t been properly burnished when new. It’s an easy process to do and makes the CCBs incredibly linear. Highly recommended that anyone who owns a car with CCBs do this IF they find the CCBs to be ‘grabby’.
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10-15-2018, 06:00 PM
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The CCBs are far superior in every respect versus the iron brakes. If you can get them installed for the same price as the option costs definitely do it. On the street you will not wear out a rotor as long as you keep the car unless you damage the rotor somehow such as allowing the pads to get too worn., or if someone is careless when taking off/installing wheels.
All of the GT Rs at the Academy have the CCBs as the iron brakes are quite ****e on track and fade quickly; the CCBs just stop the car lap after lap.
As as far as being ‘grabby’: they can be that way if they haven’t been properly burnished when new. It’s an easy process to do and makes the CCBs incredibly linear. Highly recommended that anyone who owns a car with CCBs do this IF they find the CCBs to be ‘grabby’.
Bish
All of the GT Rs at the Academy have the CCBs as the iron brakes are quite ****e on track and fade quickly; the CCBs just stop the car lap after lap.
As as far as being ‘grabby’: they can be that way if they haven’t been properly burnished when new. It’s an easy process to do and makes the CCBs incredibly linear. Highly recommended that anyone who owns a car with CCBs do this IF they find the CCBs to be ‘grabby’.
Bish
hi Bish
how do you burnish the brakes and what is the best Fluid to use ?
thanks
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10-16-2018, 11:59 AM
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I’ll find a link to a good set of burnishing instructions and post it here soon.
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10-16-2018, 04:07 PM
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So IF your CCM equipped car doesn't seem to have a linear brake pedal when slowing to a complete stop, and/or you intend to do some real high performance driving with the car; (not the types of conditions that you would normally encounter anywhere on the street, certainly not in the US although autobahn driving would potentially benefit I'd wager), then IMHO you should 'burnish' the brakes in order for them to work to their highest ability.
The Corvette Z06(7) manual states that you should do fifty, 60-0 mph stops without any interval between the stops in order to burnish the CCMs. You have to find a deserted street obviously, and if you suffer from motion sickness take some dramamine. The pedal will get very 'soft' feeling and it's not unusual for the brakes to 'smoke' heavily. If done correctly, you'll notice a nice colour change to white on the rotor edge of the pad. BTW, I believe that the most recent manual states that only twenty stops are necessary.
Below is a copy from McClaren re: burnishing the CCMs on their cars:
The Corvette Z06(7) manual states that you should do fifty, 60-0 mph stops without any interval between the stops in order to burnish the CCMs. You have to find a deserted street obviously, and if you suffer from motion sickness take some dramamine. The pedal will get very 'soft' feeling and it's not unusual for the brakes to 'smoke' heavily. If done correctly, you'll notice a nice colour change to white on the rotor edge of the pad. BTW, I believe that the most recent manual states that only twenty stops are necessary.
Below is a copy from McClaren re: burnishing the CCMs on their cars:
10-17-2018, 12:16 PM
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10-18-2018, 03:04 AM
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I will now have a brand new unused full set of brakes from an AMG GTR for sale front and rear if anyone interested I would suggest US $3940.00 plus shipping.
Includes pads front and rear , calipers front and rear, also front and rear discs.
Surly this is a great deal for a spare set of full brakes for a current owner ?
YELLOW CALIPERS
Includes pads front and rear , calipers front and rear, also front and rear discs.
Surly this is a great deal for a spare set of full brakes for a current owner ?
YELLOW CALIPERS
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I will now have a brand new unused full set of brakes from an AMG GTR for sale front and rear if anyone interested I would suggest US $3940.00 plus shipping.
Includes pads front and rear , calipers front and rear, also front and rear discs.
Surly this is a great deal for a spare set of full brakes for a current owner ?
YELLOW CALIPERS
Includes pads front and rear , calipers front and rear, also front and rear discs.
Surly this is a great deal for a spare set of full brakes for a current owner ?
YELLOW CALIPERS
