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How many more variants do we need?

well the GTR has a lot of flaws on track that this will remedy (according to mb at least). So I think it’s fully justified.

on the other hand the GTC for example seems a bit of a waste of time to me!

1: As an owner that has only identified understeer on the OEM tyres as the main track issue, ( my car has the CCM brakes), and which was cured by going with the option tyres, I’d be very interested in hearing a list of the “lot of flaws” that you’re referring to;

2: I actually think the GT C is a very worthwhile addition to the line up for thise owners who will either never track their car, or dont want the fixed rear spoiler.

I am however excited to see what this new ‘Pro’ variant brings to the table.

Bish

I still strongly suspect we’ll see a Black Series, released during the ladt year of the current car.

Bish

1: In the USA a full set of Michelin SC2 ZP tyres, (the RO3 option) runs $1,700; or exactly half your quote of 3,000 Euros. These tyres will last a full run session and makes the GT R much quicker. Plus my son and I did 8 runs sessions on a new set and they are hardly worn at all, and you can drive the car to/from the track on them.

2: the Iron brakes are a weak point of the car that need: excellent DOT 4 brake fluid; excellent track pads and yes, you’re right, far better cooling. Something hopefully the ‘Pro’ version has. Even then, the iron brakes may still not be useful on a road course.

The CCM brakes however seem to be excellent for the average Advanced group driver at your ‘normal’ 25 minute HPDE event; me for example. No fade lap after lap and fantastic retardation of the car, with decent OEM pad wear assuming you drive with ESC ‘Off’. The only thing to do, which is always wise on any car, is to switch to an excellent DOT 4 brake fluid.

You’re right; we’ve been over this before but it’s important that another opinion is expressed to owners of the car when someone states the car has a ‘long list of faults’ on a road course; it doesn’t.

Bish

Ronac, they simply ‘destroy’ the OEM Sport Cup 2’s in the handling and traction dept. IMHO. Driving as you do in the canyons I think you’d see a major difference. Obviously as RFT’s they have less compliance on broken up highway, but the ride is still ‘OK’ even in my GT R. On crappy roads when driving to/from the track I’ll leave the car in ‘C’ mode of course. On the positive side if you get a flat you aren’t stranded as these can be driven 50 miles without air in them iirc. They will not last as long obviously and I’m not able to tell you how many street miles to expect out of them as I always use them for the track mounted on a set of Signature forged wheels, but their treadwear is listed as 180. Oh and their wet weather performance is marginal due to the decreased tread depth and compound difference:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...oModClar=Coupe

That being said you get a bigger ‘footprint’ and a stickier compound than the ‘regular’ SC2s. The above link is to the GT R option tyre (R03) which is the tyre Michelin specifically designed for the Chevy C7 Z06/7. I’m not sure of other sizes if the above won’t fit your car btw.

Bish

You Sir are a lucky man! I will anxiously await your thoughts, and yes I definitely agree that the ‘Pro’ will be an even better road course monster.

I really cant see MB not selling it over here across the pond as the US is (I think) the GT R’s largest market. Since my car is a 50%/50% Street and Track car I can easily see myself thinking hard about getting one if the ‘numbers’ work out, and frankly I think that in 2020 when it’s released, the BS will push my budget too hard for me to look into getting one, especially if the economy’s in the crapper.

Bish

Just asked my dealer to put me down for a GTR pro....having had 3 other AMG , then a GTS, now GTR ...I am hoping I am improving my “AMG résumé “ in order to improve my chances to get a black Series ....

Well there are reports of a GT R ‘Roadster’ version being made in the future, so you can keep that in mind.

May I ask you the following? The GT C is as fast on the street and will handle just about as well since it has almost the exact same hp; the 4WS, etc. It will, I assume have more compliance which is not a bad thing for the street, especially if your roads aren’t super smooth. So what would be the attraction of a GT R Roadster? The GT R deserves to be driven on a road course as that is it’s design purpose, and most(?) track organisers normally won’t allow ‘Verts on track. Is it simply because it is currently the ‘top of the line’ version of the GT series?

Not or trying to be ‘weird’ as people can spend their hard earned cash on anything IMHO; I’m just trying to see why someone would even want a GT R ‘Vert.

Thanks for any enlightenment! lol

Bish

I am speculating completely here, but a loaded GT R in the US runs about $200K. I expect the BS to start at a minimum of $250K. It remains to be seen how many GT R BS cars are brought to the US, and of course produced world wide, as to whether the car will be a ‘collectible’ remains to be seen. I hope enough are produced that they aren’t all locked away except for a blast down to the local C&C as that would be tragic. I want plenty produced so that eventually I might be able to get my hands on one! lol

Bish