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rrpnow 02-18-2006 10:24 AM

Passport 8500 x50... its not what u think
 
i already have the x50... i have my radar on expert mode so it shows all available radars in the area... ok, but i read the radar can show up to 2 Ka, 2 K, and 2 X all at the same time? if so, can someone tell me how this works?

like i have seen my radar show X then 4 bars next to it... so im just wondering exactly how to read my radar...

http://www.palcoelectronics.com/i1005778.jpg

there is a pic of one, if that helps?

thanks

rrpnow 02-19-2006 12:35 PM

:bump:

amdeutsch 02-19-2006 01:09 PM

Are you telling us that the manual doesn't explain it? :D

rrpnow 02-19-2006 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by amdeutsch
Are you telling us that the manual doesn't explain it? :D


fine... i got the manual from my car...

just in case u guys r lazy...

PICTURE: KA || k || x ||||
(yea i typed it out)

"As you can see, there are vertical lines after each band designator. Each line shows a signal being detected. The height of each line shows the relative signal strength of that signal." -- the manual :hammer:

[180] 02-26-2006 04:21 PM

If your detector is showing "X" and 4 bars next to it, then you're not in expert mode - you're in standard mode.

Enter the programming function - hold both top buttons
Scroll down to mode > change to expert.
Leave it to log out of the programming function.

The idle screen will remain the same; but when you encounter radar it will display up to 2x KA, 2x K, or 2x X bands. POP and Laser will remain the same (no signal strength shown)

Ty Vil 03-13-2006 06:12 AM

solution for me would be:

sell junk detector. buy valentine one.

problem solved.

LeftCoastBias 03-13-2006 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Ty Vil
solution for me would be:

sell junk detector. buy valentine one.

problem solved.

the x50 is supposedly MUCH better than the v1, now.

everyone i've talked to that has switched- loves it.

Ty Vil 03-13-2006 03:19 PM

I seriously want some of whatever you're on if you believe that Josh.

rrpnow 03-13-2006 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by [180]
If your detector is showing "X" and 4 bars next to it, then you're not in expert mode - you're in standard mode.

Enter the programming function - hold both top buttons
Scroll down to mode > change to expert.
Leave it to log out of the programming function.

The idle screen will remain the same; but when you encounter radar it will display up to 2x KA, 2x K, or 2x X bands. POP and Laser will remain the same (no signal strength shown)


i think you're wrong... what i quoted a post before that was from the manual...

standard mode just shows ONE signal, which ever is the strongest and which has priority, aka Laser=POP > Ka > K > x

davis449 03-13-2006 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Ty Vil
solution for me would be:

sell junk detector. buy valentine one.

problem solved.

Oh yeah...useless directional arrows, not as good detection range, and overpriced...the full package baby!

LeftCoastBias 03-13-2006 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by Ty Vil
I seriously want some of whatever you're on if you believe that Josh.

:dunno

it's what i've read and heard from other owners?

and see post 10 :stickoutt

LeftCoastBias 03-13-2006 08:23 PM

crap, i dont know any of the smilie codes here.

RaDaRkInG 03-18-2006 09:52 AM

The Valentine One is the best radar/laser detector on the market today.

http://guysoflidar.com/shootout05/radartesting.html

http://guysoflidar.com/shootout05/pop.html

http://guysoflidar.com/shootout05/spectre.html

http://motortrend.com/features/consu...r_buyersguide/

"This year, the measurement of the radar and laser detection abilities of each of the over $200 units gives the Valentine One ($400) a small edge over the competing BEL Vector 995 ($260) and Escort Passport 8500 X50 ($300 with red display or $340 with a blue display) units."

V1 is the best in laser detection:

http://www.radardetector.net/viewtop...213&highlight=

http://www.laserveil.com/laser-detector-performance/

http://www.laserveil.com/laser-detec...adar-detector/

http://www.laserveil.com/laser-detec...ice-laser-gun/

http://www.laserveil.com/laser-detec...adar-detector/

http://www.laserveil.com/laser-detec...ice-laser-gun/

V1 has the best rear radar detection because it is the only detector with 2 antennas to locate radar:

http://www.radardetector.net/viewtop...214&highlight=

V1 is the least detectable detector by RDD's or Radar Detector Detectors in states where radar detectors are illegal. The Spectre III is the most used RDD in the world and it can only pick up the Valentine One if it is 166 feet or closer which is better than the X50 which can be detected 954 feet away.

http://www.radardetector.net/viewtop...383&highlight=

The Valentine One which accounts for only .6% of radar detector sales wins every poll when it comes to being the favorite detector. The X50 doesn't even get an approval rating as high as George Bush's worst rating. :lol:

http://www.radardetector.net/The-Ult.......-5523t.php

Which of the "Big 3" is really the best overall - in your opinion?
V-1
64% [ 45 ]

RX-65
12% [ 9 ]

X50
20% [ 14 ]

Other (state which and why)
2% [ 2 ]

Total Votes : 70



Here is a poll on a BMW M3 Forum:

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showt...ight=valentine

What kind of Radar Detector do you have?

Valentine 1 129 people

64.82%


Escort 8500 47 people

23.62%


K40 4 people

2.01%


Other 19 people

9.55%


TOTAL VOTES 199 PEOPLE


http://www.radardetector.net/viewtop...ghlight=#42353

Radar Roy from Radarbusters.com said this about the Valentine One, "Just spoke with Carl Fors from SML, his website will be going online tonight with the 2005 results. He has declared the V895, 8500 and the Valentine One as the top performers. Motortrend, who was also at the test, will be declaring the Valentine One as the top detector based upon its detection of laser.

http://www.radardetector.net/viewtop...=4696&start=90

Radar Roy said, "There were results that they (Guys of Lidar) got during the test that I was not exactly pleased with, such as the discovery of the Blinder not having Stealth Mode installed and the Valentine beating out the Escort and Bel in the range tests. Even though I don’t sell the Valentine, it does have slightly better range than both the RX65 and the 8500 and I also show this same fact on my site. Would love it to be the other way around."

Here is a link and video of the V1 alerting to radar quicker than the X50 and sometimes the X50 didn't alert to the radar at all. They are quick pulling the radar gun's trigger and the X50 is filtering it out and the V1 is picking it up every time.

http://www.radardetector.net/V1-vs.-...otout-865t.php

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...ZmQzMXk1NDE%3D

V1 wins in POP detection:

http://media.putfile.com/JammerTestscom_tests_V1X50_POP

V1 wins because it detects a certain laser gun in stealth mode while the X50 remains silent:

http://media.putfile.com/JammerTests...nd_X50_stealth

dtkw 03-18-2006 12:32 PM

I have a V1 with the updated software. I don't really need it now because my job as a detective has its advantage. However I do use it when I am off duty going to Chicago to pick my sons up. I just don't like to flash my badge and ask for favor.

TA-9FF 07-09-2006 07:31 PM

Old thread but who cares, I'm bored.

Just thought I'd give Radarking the SAME link I used to counter his obsession with the useless V1, that was discussed in a similar thread a while back. It's fun to start ****.:)

http://www.radartest.com/article.asp?articleid=9090

LeftCoastBias 07-10-2006 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by TA-9FF
Old thread but who cares, I'm bored.

Just thought I'd give Radarking the SAME link I used to counter his obsession with the useless V1, that was discussed in a similar thread a while back. It's fun to start ****.:)

http://www.radartest.com/article.asp?articleid=9090

good link!

barrykaye 07-10-2006 10:58 PM

Why use expert mode in the first place? Just put the meter back in standard mode and slow down when it goes off. I just went from an 8500 to a Solo cordless (anyone want to buy a used 8500?). I have used Escort radar detectors since the old black box and have always been satisfied. I've read the reviews on the Valentine and would have bought one except I really wanted to get rid of the cig lighter cord and didn't want to do a permanent wiring installation. IMHO, if you pay attention while driving, almost any detector will save you. Unless of course you get tagged by laser in which case almost nothing will save you.

no_clue 07-12-2006 12:20 AM

http://www.speedtrap.org/speedtraps/stetlist.asp

RaDaRkInG 07-13-2006 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by TA-9FF
Old thread but who cares, I'm bored.

Just thought I'd give Radarking the SAME link I used to counter his obsession with the useless V1, that was discussed in a similar thread a while back. It's fun to start ****.:)

http://www.radartest.com/article.asp?articleid=9090

Thanks for the link to the most biased site on the net run by Craig Peterson who is a known basher of the Valentine One. What kind of a site charges you money to see the results of their biased testing?

http://valentine1.com/lab/V1Hater.asp

"Amidst all the allegations of invalid test methodology and unfairness were suggestions that Peterson showed undue favoritism to the BEL unit because he has consulted for the company."

In the March, 1996, issue, Peterson replied, "Having consulted to every major detector manufacturer, suggestions that BEL received preferential treatment are nonsense."

He's wrong on that point too. He's never been a consultant to Valentine Research, although he's approached us more than once. We declined his advances each time."

LeftCoastBias 07-14-2006 02:47 AM


Originally Posted by RaDaRkInG
Thanks for the link to the most biased site on the net run by Craig Peterson who is a known basher of the Valentine One. What kind of a site charges you money to see the results of their biased testing?

http://valentine1.com/lab/V1Hater.asp

"Amidst all the allegations of invalid test methodology and unfairness were suggestions that Peterson showed undue favoritism to the BEL unit because he has consulted for the company."

In the March, 1996, issue, Peterson replied, "Having consulted to every major detector manufacturer, suggestions that BEL received preferential treatment are nonsense."

He's wrong on that point too. He's never been a consultant to Valentine Research, although he's approached us more than once. We declined his advances each time."

when you say "us" does that mean you work for valentine?


so...... wouldn't that make YOU biased?

RaDaRkInG 07-14-2006 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by LeftCoastBias
when you say "us" does that mean you work for valentine?


so...... wouldn't that make YOU biased?

I took that quote directly from the article so "us" does not refer to me, it is Valentine Research talking about themselves.

LeftCoastBias 07-14-2006 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by RaDaRkInG
I took that quote directly from the article so "us" does not refer to me, it is Valentine Research talking about themselves.

oh.


well who knows if that's true, because it's obviously biased for valentine, as well.


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