Problem on the air mass meter???
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Problem on the air mass meter???
My 2002 W203 is recently having a problem. The car vibrates when it comes to complete stop after certain amount of running, and the car stalled and hesitant to run for like 2 seconds after stepping on the gas. Are these the symptoms for the defect air mass meter??? I was told by member on this forum that i might be having problem with the air mass meter. pls advise!! or will this be something else??? Thanks!!
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Originally Posted by fchen911
My 2002 W203 is recently having a problem. The car vibrates when it comes to complete stop after certain amount of running, and the car stalled and hesitant to run for like 2 seconds after stepping on the gas. Are these the symptoms for the defect air mass meter??? I was told by member on this forum that i might be having problem with the air mass meter. pls advise!! or will this be something else??? Thanks!!
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First, it's not according to me, it's according to the warranty booklet that came with the car. Second, it sounds more like a crank position sensor. Even disconnecting the MAF won't make the car stall, I know, I disconnected each sensor to see what would happen, just for fun. Did your check engine light go on? Even if it didn't there may still be codes stored that didn't reach a threshhold to trigger the light and should be looked at. Buy a OBD2 scanner and look for codes and look for unusual sensor activity. I like software from OBD-2.com but PepBoys or Autozone have handheld scanners for under $100 now.
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Oh where or where is that post with the picture of the
oil collection device that might save the MAF from continually self destructing....
Back to searching....
$100 for ODBII software?
Does that come with whatever hardware is needed as well?
I would think the software version would give much more info that the handheld units...
Which is better? I mean I already own a laptop.
oil collection device that might save the MAF from continually self destructing....
Back to searching....
$100 for ODBII software?
Does that come with whatever hardware is needed as well?
I would think the software version would give much more info that the handheld units...
Which is better? I mean I already own a laptop.
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The hardware versions are cheap, seen them starting at $69 at Pep Boys, probably cheaper on the net or ebay. The software version is a little more expensive but you can log while you drive and play it back, helps in troubleshooting. Also you can save a log of your car running correctly to compare it to when it's not. If you don't have a laptop, just get any old laptop on ebay for $100 or less. I got a nice Toshiba CT300 or CT320 that I use and it's very small and very cheap and I put GPS software on there and when I travel I can connect to the internet and leave it in my car without fear of theft of an expensive laptop.
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Hmmm... i called my service advisor at House of Imports MB yesterday. I describe to him about the situation and problem for 5 seconds, he then started to tell me the rest of the problem in DETAIL. He seems to know this problem really well. He was saying that the "spark wire"?? or "plug wire" are WORN OUT and needs to be replaced. The problem will cost me about $200 ~$500, depends on how bad the problem is.
Should i do it at dealer? Or go to somewhat famous import cars mechanic shop?? hmm.... this is annoying...
Should i do it at dealer? Or go to somewhat famous import cars mechanic shop?? hmm.... this is annoying...
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Originally Posted by fchen911
Hmmm... i called my service advisor at House of Imports MB yesterday. I describe to him about the situation and problem for 5 seconds, he then started to tell me the rest of the problem in DETAIL. He seems to know this problem really well. He was saying that the "spark wire"?? or "plug wire" are WORN OUT and needs to be replaced. The problem will cost me about $200 ~$500, depends on how bad the problem is.
Should i do it at dealer? Or go to somewhat famous import cars mechanic shop?? hmm.... this is annoying...
Should i do it at dealer? Or go to somewhat famous import cars mechanic shop?? hmm.... this is annoying...
DUDE DO it at the dealer, you pay more, BUT if the problem is not the spark wires, then YOU get to bring it back untill they fix it. BUT makesure when they do the write up that the description of the problem is EXACTLY what you are experiencing, I know u can't replicate it.
and it's annoying.
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hahahah $200-$500 love that scale he have you...gotta love the stealers!!!....you might wanna clean out the mass air flow...if you take your MAF out and spray the fillament with carb cleaner that might help fix the problem....but if you dont know what your doing dont do touch it you might make things worse. do you have acceleration problems? check engine light on? if it is do you know what the code is? if you put some more information up maybe you can get some more help
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Haha, I love the service advisors at HOI, they are the biggest scam artists in the world. I brought in my car for an oil change because I was working nearby and they gave me a list of things that needed fixin, over $3,000 worth. They told me that the car would be unsafe to drive if I didn't get it fixed. I took it to another dealer and explained what they said was wrong and they said there was nothing wrong with the car. HOI is truly the biggest scam service department, avoid them at all cost. Try Caliber, MB of Laguna Niguel or Fletcher Jones. The only problem I had with FJ is they are too busy and I heard of people complain that the cars are stacked in there so tight they've gotten door dings while in service.
BTW, don't mess with your MAF unless you really know that you have nothing to lose. If you break that really, really thin sensor wire you will be out $350 for the part.
BTW, don't mess with your MAF unless you really know that you have nothing to lose. If you break that really, really thin sensor wire you will be out $350 for the part.
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Thank you all again for the comments !! Well.. the check engine light is never on, but i do see slow and little delay on acceleration while stepping on the gas hard. It didnt really happen before. The car still vibrates quite hard after coming to a complete stop sometimes.
The advisor i have at House of imports ( RYAN ANDERSON ) helped me out and save me quite alot of money before my warranty ended. He even gave me an updated navigation cd for no charge. He just slide in a new updated into my comand. He also fixed some little things
Do u guys know some other service advisor working at the dealers in southern cali ( penske? calibur, rusnak? ) maybe i will stop by and talk to them as well. I really dont want that same problem of telling me i have $3000 list of items i need to replace...
The advisor i have at House of imports ( RYAN ANDERSON ) helped me out and save me quite alot of money before my warranty ended. He even gave me an updated navigation cd for no charge. He just slide in a new updated into my comand. He also fixed some little things
Do u guys know some other service advisor working at the dealers in southern cali ( penske? calibur, rusnak? ) maybe i will stop by and talk to them as well. I really dont want that same problem of telling me i have $3000 list of items i need to replace...
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Originally Posted by Buellwinkle
Haha, I love the service advisors at HOI, they are the biggest scam artists in the world. I brought in my car for an oil change because I was working nearby and they gave me a list of things that needed fixin, over $3,000 worth. They told me that the car would be unsafe to drive if I didn't get it fixed. I took it to another dealer and explained what they said was wrong and they said there was nothing wrong with the car. HOI is truly the biggest scam service department, avoid them at all cost. Try Caliber, MB of Laguna Niguel or Fletcher Jones. The only problem I had with FJ is they are too busy and I heard of people complain that the cars are stacked in there so tight they've gotten door dings while in service.
BTW, don't mess with your MAF unless you really know that you have nothing to lose. If you break that really, really thin sensor wire you will be out $350 for the part.
BTW, don't mess with your MAF unless you really know that you have nothing to lose. If you break that really, really thin sensor wire you will be out $350 for the part.
This is so weird... i took it to a friend's local euro car specialist car shop, they can not find the problem at all. They scan the car with the computer and NOTHING on the car memory. They told me there must be at least something showing after the computer scan but they dont see anything at all. The car seems losing power even i step on gas hard. It vibrates and shakes when comes to complete stop after certain amount of local running. This is so ANNOYING !
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Take it to the dealer and see what he says, just don't agree to work unless you approve the amount. Personaly, if I lived up that way I would go to Calibre Motors on La Palma Ave.
I had what your SA described and it was fixed under warranty. I had a loss of power, load on the OBD2 scanner didn't go much above 60% but my car road smooth, you would never know other than it was slow.
I had what your SA described and it was fixed under warranty. I had a loss of power, load on the OBD2 scanner didn't go much above 60% but my car road smooth, you would never know other than it was slow.
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Fix yet
FC911 Did you get it fix yet???
if not you should go see a priest.... your car is HAUNTED and need to a good
from the priest.....
if not you should go see a priest.... your car is HAUNTED and need to a good
from the priest.....
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Originally Posted by mbz4810
FC911 Did you get it fix yet???
if not you should go see a priest.... your car is HAUNTED and need to a good from the priest.....
if not you should go see a priest.... your car is HAUNTED and need to a good
from the priest.....HMMM.... YAH... maybe i should !! I will go to the chinese temple to get some monks prayer for my car.. maybe buy some gas from gas station (premium 91) and monks will give some holy power to the gas.
BUT ANYWAY... i took my car to an euro-auto mechanic shop that i know well... they scan the whole car and see no error code at all. The only thing they fixed is the leakage of transmission oil. They replaced the parts, clean it, and refill OEM mercedes new transmission oil. HEY !! the problem disappears !! I have been driving for 4 days already and the car is back to normal. I will bring the car back again next week, because the car is still having loss of power somehow. The car seems not having enough power after 40mgh. The RPM goes high but speed doesnt pick up. Anyone knows this problem?? my mechanic said he needs more time to find this problem.
The reason i am not planning to take to dealer is because my car is already out of warranty, and my friend ( another certified mechanic at santa monica Audi) told me dealer will charge at least another $500 to $1000 to deplicate and solve the problem. Minimum $150 for just dynostic.
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Did anybody find out exactly what's wrong with the car? I have the same problems with my 2001 c240 auto. When I race the car, rpm goes really high but the car won't accelerate. Also, if I don't completely stop the car, sometimes it willl shake and when I accelerate again it takes a few seconds for the car to accelerate. I have taken it to the MB dealer and my own mechanic. Dealer wants to change the transmission control module and few other things for $3,300. The sad thing is they said let's change it and see if that would fix the problems. My mechanic worked on it for a few days and couldn't find the problems and told me to drive it until it gets worst then bring it back.
Help.
Help.
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Take the car to a car shop who has a OBD2 Code Reader. Luckily my father has one. I recently found out that the Autozone will lend it to you to find out the error code.
This week I had a problem with the maf. But I had loss of power when I pressed the gas peddle.
GoodLuck
This week I had a problem with the maf. But I had loss of power when I pressed the gas peddle.
GoodLuck
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Dealer doesn't need that, they have the Star Diagnostic computer and can look at a lot more detail than any OBD2 scanner. That's why you pay them $650 to replace the MAF vs. you cleaning it for $6.
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For some reason the problems went away and the car runs fine now except the engine light is on now. It will be off for a day or two after I fill the gas tank and then comes back on. I have tighten the gas cap between refills and that didn't solve the problem. I am sick off taking this car to the mechanic. Any help?
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For some reason the problems went away and the car runs fine now except the engine light is on now. It will be off for a day or two after I fill the gas tank and then comes back on. I have tighten the gas cap between refills and that didn't solve the problem. I am sick off taking this car to the mechanic. Any help?
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There were many happy customers who wrote letters to Rusnak just to see how well Daniel has treated them and their cars. I am very happy with Daniel too. Many mechanics worked at Rusnak for than 10 years.
Charles at Pensky seems very straight forward also.
