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Here's a good laugh
I was rather board and was comparing the coupe to the base model Jetta (Which a friend of mine owns and for some reason brags about). If you go to VW's comparison and comapre the coupe to the Jetta. The numbers all seemed a bit crooked, but my favorite one is: CD Player: Jetta: Standard, C-230K Sports Coupe: Optional: 2,039. Where do these numbers come from?!?
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Yeah they made a mistake (on purpose or not) but the fact still remains that a $14,000 Kia comes with A/C, Auto, CD, and side airbags...
Yes I know its a Kia, but how much could a CD player cost Mercedes?, $50 in quantity....just throw it in for free....
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Yes I know its a Kia, but how much could a CD player cost Mercedes?, $50 in quantity....just throw it in for free....
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Re: Here's a good laugh
Originally posted by c class 279
I was rather board and was comparing the coupe to the base model Jetta (Which a friend of mine owns and for some reason brags about). If you go to VW's comparison and comapre the coupe to the Jetta. The numbers all seemed a bit crooked, but my favorite one is: CD Player: Jetta: Standard, C-230K Sports Coupe: Optional: 2,039. Where do these numbers come from?!?
I was rather board and was comparing the coupe to the base model Jetta (Which a friend of mine owns and for some reason brags about). If you go to VW's comparison and comapre the coupe to the Jetta. The numbers all seemed a bit crooked, but my favorite one is: CD Player: Jetta: Standard, C-230K Sports Coupe: Optional: 2,039. Where do these numbers come from?!?
That's reason enough for me to take pass. And ask him how he likes that minivan grade rear suspension...yeah baby its a glorified beam axle!
I've got nothing against VW's in general, but I'd take a pass on the Mexican ones given all the problems that friends and coworkers have had with any mexican built VW.
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doesnt the Passat w/ sport susp. get AUDI sport susp? if they do its nothing to sneeze at. Audi sport susp. pkg is pretty nice (a bit too harsh for me personally) b/c its almost an inch lower and stiff springs (more then Eibach Pro line)/shocks.
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Originally posted by tberry
doesnt the Passat w/ sport susp. get AUDI sport susp? if they do its nothing to sneeze at. Audi sport susp. pkg is pretty nice (a bit too harsh for me personally) b/c its almost an inch lower and stiff springs (more then Eibach Pro line)/shocks.
doesnt the Passat w/ sport susp. get AUDI sport susp? if they do its nothing to sneeze at. Audi sport susp. pkg is pretty nice (a bit too harsh for me personally) b/c its almost an inch lower and stiff springs (more then Eibach Pro line)/shocks.
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im sure they mean the COMAND option. most car company website you go to, no matter what brand, when their vehicle to another marque, you will find biased opinions. sometimes items that are issued for the competitor are marked as n/a, re-worded to give the advantage to the car your looking at on their site. when i bought my VW in 2001 there was no in dash changer available for it. i did get the trunk mounted changer for my 2000 new beetle and the 6 disk in dash changer availabale in europe for my 2001 jetta. got rid of the jetta 9 months ago and getting rid of the bettle when my C230 arrives. dads gonna use it as a commuter car. i wasnt impressed with the build quality of the jetta and the NB. ive never seen a euro built VW to compare it to, but i do think you get better overall interior with the jetta and its really not that much more than the NB.
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Although you might say that the technology behind VW's suspension sucks, I think that the VWs handle a lot better than the C-class. The C is way too wobbly. Yes, you can upgrade it, but then you can also upgrade a VW.
But build quality is a totally different issue. My Beetle probably had every single part replaced except for the actual body of the car. Even the engine bolts broke off and slowly crushed the transmission (took a few days to finally stop working). Damn Mexico and their non-existant quality control.
But build quality is a totally different issue. My Beetle probably had every single part replaced except for the actual body of the car. Even the engine bolts broke off and slowly crushed the transmission (took a few days to finally stop working). Damn Mexico and their non-existant quality control.
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ive been throug 4 instrument clusters for the check engine light, once because the chime for lights on and door open died, window switches and motors, new radio, new sunroof rails, and the list can go on. very disappointed. drivers wanted for a reason!
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don't put down on the jetta...yeah, the windows fall out so often the dealer fixes it free 
...but i feel u get almost the same kinda stuff for about 28k (vr6, even less for 1.8T)...if not for less...not saying vw.com is faultless...the option for cd should only be around 400 on the c coupe...and the rear seats aren't really all that usable...oh well...who can blame competitors...
...but i feel u get almost the same kinda stuff for about 28k (vr6, even less for 1.8T)...if not for less...not saying vw.com is faultless...the option for cd should only be around 400 on the c coupe...and the rear seats aren't really all that usable...oh well...who can blame competitors...
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i loved my jetta, was disappointed most with my beetle and had more problems with my beetle. jetta was a TDI and NB is a 2.0L. either way ill be looking foward to better acceleration.
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my friend (who loves his jetta) and his brother each had a jetta...one had his window fall out, and the other had his sunroof literally drop out... ever happen to u? just wondering. seems like such an oddity...don't hear it really on the passat. i mean, shouldn't vw have done something about it when dealers repair it for free cause it happens so often?
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Originally posted by steve s
...the option for cd should only be around 400 on the c coupe...
...the option for cd should only be around 400 on the c coupe...
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Re: Re: Here's a good laugh
Originally posted by Outland
Isn't the Jetta made in Mexico?
That's reason enough for me to take pass. And ask him how he likes that minivan grade rear suspension...yeah baby its a glorified beam axle!
I've got nothing against VW's in general, but I'd take a pass on the Mexican ones given all the problems that friends and coworkers have had with any mexican built VW.
Isn't the Jetta made in Mexico?
That's reason enough for me to take pass. And ask him how he likes that minivan grade rear suspension...yeah baby its a glorified beam axle!
I've got nothing against VW's in general, but I'd take a pass on the Mexican ones given all the problems that friends and coworkers have had with any mexican built VW.
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Originally posted by Matt230K
The CD changer is only $400 if you order it factory-installed. (Actually, it's installed once it hits the US distribution center.) If you have it dealer installed, it's still 800-1000.
The CD changer is only $400 if you order it factory-installed. (Actually, it's installed once it hits the US distribution center.) If you have it dealer installed, it's still 800-1000.
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Originally posted by CitronC230K_03
ive been throug 4 instrument clusters for the check engine light, once because the chime for lights on and door open died, window switches and motors, new radio, new sunroof rails, and the list can go on. very disappointed. drivers wanted for a reason!
ive been throug 4 instrument clusters for the check engine light, once because the chime for lights on and door open died, window switches and motors, new radio, new sunroof rails, and the list can go on. very disappointed. drivers wanted for a reason!
My power mirror knob just snapped right off (No, i don't abuse it). The cd player had some problem along with the ABS (weird connection); somehow, occasionally the cd would skip like crazy and the ABS light will start flashing. Not sure what happened, but the dealer fixed it. Transmission died on first week we took delivery of the car. Had to get it towed back. Rear defogger wouldn't defog, had to get it fixed twice. Hatch rattle that never got fixed after the first few rattle-free months. Power-window that got stuck on "down" on a snowy Christmas Eve. Couldn't pull the seatbelt adjuster back up (although it was fine on down so i just left it). And the rest of the problems I stated before. Hell that's quite a lot.
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Re: Re: Re: Here's a good laugh
Originally posted by FrankW
I know our Beetle 1.8t is made in Mexico. I thought the Jetta are made in Wulfsburg?
I know our Beetle 1.8t is made in Mexico. I thought the Jetta are made in Wulfsburg?
Although you might say that the technology behind VW's suspension sucks, I think that the VWs handle a lot better than the C-class. The C is way too wobbly. Yes, you can upgrade it, but then you can also upgrade a VW.
How that compares to a C-sedan, i can't really say...Ive only had limited time in the sedan(with the salesman along) and I drove the 240(slow) and the 320(I know its faster than both the 240 and 230, but it sure doesn't feel like it) to decide if I wanted to wait for the C320 coupe...obviously, I didn't
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Here's a good laugh
Originally posted by Outland
Are you refering to the sedan w/o the sport suspension, or the C-Coupe(which has the sport suspension standard)? In regards to the C-Coupe, I have to disagree. Ive driven several Jettas and New Beetles...they do not handle better. Much too soft, and serious body roll. And then there's the bump-sidestep manuever that only cars with the beam rear axles can do...
How that compares to a C-sedan, i can't really say...Ive only had limited time in the sedan(with the salesman along) and I drove the 240(slow) and the 320(I know its faster than both the 240 and 230, but it sure doesn't feel like it) to decide if I wanted to wait for the C320 coupe...obviously, I didn't
Are you refering to the sedan w/o the sport suspension, or the C-Coupe(which has the sport suspension standard)? In regards to the C-Coupe, I have to disagree. Ive driven several Jettas and New Beetles...they do not handle better. Much too soft, and serious body roll. And then there's the bump-sidestep manuever that only cars with the beam rear axles can do...
How that compares to a C-sedan, i can't really say...Ive only had limited time in the sedan(with the salesman along) and I drove the 240(slow) and the 320(I know its faster than both the 240 and 230, but it sure doesn't feel like it) to decide if I wanted to wait for the C320 coupe...obviously, I didn't
the car does not have a lot of bodyroll compare to my sis's clk320.also i have driven my friend's Jetta VR6. it is very well balanced as a compact sedan. IMO it rides better than the Accord, etc. It's not supposed to be a sports car.
Maybe it's the Beetle and the Jetta that I've driven are the top of the line with firmer suspension than their lower sibilings. I do feel VWs are great cars for the money. Then again, like you said. There is no way to compare the Beetle or Jetta to the C-class.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Here's a good laugh
Originally posted by FrankW
Maybe it's the Beetle and the Jetta that I've driven are the top of the line with firmer suspension than their lower sibilings. I do feel VWs are great cars for the money. Then again, like you said. There is no way to compare the Beetle or Jetta to the C-class.
Maybe it's the Beetle and the Jetta that I've driven are the top of the line with firmer suspension than their lower sibilings. I do feel VWs are great cars for the money. Then again, like you said. There is no way to compare the Beetle or Jetta to the C-class.
I've noticed that the latest ads now mention how they "want to do whatever it takes to get you in a german engineered vehicle"...note not german built- engineered.
Hell, if that's all you want...buy a Saturn...the L series was designed almost entirely in Germany(tis based on the Opel Vectra), and so was the new ION. The prices are more competitive, the cars bigger, and the plastic panels make them rust and dent proof. And they are built in the US, instead of with exploited mexican labor. Anyway, I'm way off the topic now.
