04mbc230

Oh. Actually, you don't want the label Valeo and it just chrimp with teeth like finish. If you have that, best of luck buddy.

Now if you have a wavy finish, where the metal meets the plastic tank then you will be okay. It should label Behr.

Check the link below for the pictures.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...iator-r-r.html

jcnash

Is it possible to tell from looking at the car from the engine bay (without hoisting it up)?

Im going to get a flashlight and check my car tomorrow....heres hoping...

04mbc230

Yup. That's what I did on the night where I found this issue. I was scared and went out in the cold with my flashlight to see what I have under the hood.

I don't think you can see the valeo label since it's hidden. But you can see the Behr label (that is if it is a Behr). Should be on the right side (Driver side) looking down on the side of the radiator. You can also see if the side of the finish (where the metal meets the plastic is either wavy or teeth chrimps).

Best of Luck with your hunting.

Oh, since we are in this note. Have you done the Cam Sensor Adapter fix? I think your year model should have free work done for this issue. You might want to check this one out too. Since motor oil can leak and travels along the wires and get to your ECM. Once it gets there, it will create all sorts of havoc on your car's electronics.

jcnash

Hey guys need some help identifying if this is a Valeo or a Behr rad.

There seem to be two layers of grills...the front one (towards front of car) has a straight edge where the metal meets plastic but the rear one is crimped/wavy



The straight edge on the front grill



The crimped/wavy edge on the second (back) grill

jcnash

04mbc230, glyn, anybody?

Bump

04mbc230

I can't tell on the picture you posted. Closest one perhaps, #3? But that is really blurry and I can't tell if that is a piece of metal sticking out.

I'll take some pictures of mine when I get home.

You are looking at the right place to find if the label BEHR is there or not.

jcnash

Thanks man. Ill wait on yr pictures.

I tried looking around for the BEHR label but couldnt see anything, but then as you already know my engine bay is a mess so it could simply be covered in grime.

04mbc230

Okay.. Here are some pictures I took today. Took a while, had some computer problems.









Hope this helps.

04mbc230

From your third picture, it looks similar to my 3rd picture. Which has wavy metal to plastic. So.. I think you have a BEHR Radiator. To ensure that it is, you have to find the BEHR label. It would be a bummer to find that it's a valeo.

jcnash

Thanks for those pictures 04mb.

I just got a chance to check my car and i found the label attached to the BACK of the radiator. However it says 'TEMIC'. LOL. Maybe Canadian cars came fitted with a third brand of radiators?

This label i found was not on the side of the rad but on the back. I tried taking pics with my iphone, but it didnt turn out clear enough to see anything. Ill take pics with my camera when i get home and post it.

Anyone know anythign about these TEMIC radiators?

04mbc230

Sorry, I am not aware of this brand, but it is better than seeing VALEO. Perhaps Glyn can put a word on this.

jcnash

Haha....true. Im still not sure if I was looking at the right label. Maybe I was looking at the label for some other component whichw as manufactured by TEMIC. Ill take a closer look when Im home with a flashlight and get some pictures as well.

Thanks again for your help.

jcnash

OK so I looked it up after I got home. I think the TEMIC label I see is the fan and not the radiator. Maybe someone can confirm....part # is A 203 500 0293 KZ??

However, even though I wasnt able to find the BEHR label or the emblem, Im pretty sure my radiator is a BEHR bcause of the wavy crimping on the side tanks and also the little notch at the top right corner.

04mbc230

Best wishes Dude! I guess only way to confirm is if you take the bar out to check out the radiator itself.

jcnash

My baby...one year later!

After a quick wash

jcnash

Sorry about the bad quality pics

jcnash

Blackberry pics

04mbc230

Nice.. I like your headlights. Is the OEM?

Also you have the navi? Or is that Navi? Is that OEM? Aftermarket? If so, how and where can I get a set of that for my ride?

jcnash

Yep headlights are OEM manufactured by HELLA. They were lifted from an 05+ coupe which came with the clear headlights.

Yep its a Navi/Bluetooth/MP3 CD/USB/SD Card/iPod music and video player. Its a Pioneer AVIC F700BT.

You can find the latest model (Pioneer AVIC X710BT and other X-series units at Best Buy/Futureshop etc. The 710 BT costs about $400 or so.

04mbc230

Awww.. I guess I am out on the Headlights. Looks clean.

As for the Pioneer. Can this be installed, I heard that they use fiber for connection to fight the owners from going aftermarket. Is this true for your setup?

jcnash

Thanks man.

Yeah I did the Pioneer install myself. If you have the Bose/Harman Kardon system installed in your car, the install gets more complicated. If you dont have these systems, its a fairly simple install. You just leave the fiber optic cable disconnected because you wont be using the cars amplifier. You will be using the amplifier which is built into the Pioneer, which is more powerful and more modern.

To check if you have the Bose/HK systems, check your speaker grills. If you have the Bose or HK name/logo on it, you have these systems and youre SOL!

04mbc230

Nope. I don't have it.

Was it hard to pull out the radio? Is it as easy like the cluster?

How is the radio reception on this? The OEM kinda sucks and has lots of static. In AM mode, it's sounds like we are using the old style radios. Sounds just horrible.

I have a toyota truck (work truck) and the OEM system on that has nice reception and clean AM broadcast. It's nothing fancy, but it does the job in putting some music while I am on the road.

jcnash

Yeh its pretty easy. Theres a DIY posted in the audio thread.

Radio reception is pretty good once you give the antenna terminal some power. The Pioneer requires an active antenna and the OEM antenna is passive. So supplying 12V power makes the OEM antenna active.

hkirov

Euro SPec

jcnash

Like I stated in a different thread...dome ****er keyed my car when it was parked on the street in downtown Toronto....its in the shop getting fixed