rode in the older c-class today
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rode in the older c-class today
my impressions, well, it is older... felt older. current interior seems comparable/better than the older interior - everything. teeny little glove compartment, single wiper. cup holder is still overengineered.
but the most interesting thing i noticed was the hood ornament - like a targeting sight distracting to me but, i guess, if you're used to it, it is normal.
but the most interesting thing i noticed was the hood ornament - like a targeting sight distracting to me but, i guess, if you're used to it, it is normal.
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I've never been in an older C Class. Does the hood ornament look different than on the current sedan?
When I was looking at some used cars, I came across an older C230. I did like the instrument cluster a little better than the current one (from just looking in the window). I guess I just favor the round speedometer and tach better. Now that I've had the 02 for awhile, the new design is starting to grow on me.
When I was looking at some used cars, I came across an older C230. I did like the instrument cluster a little better than the current one (from just looking in the window). I guess I just favor the round speedometer and tach better. Now that I've had the 02 for awhile, the new design is starting to grow on me.
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Originally posted by revstriker
I've never been in an older C Class. Does the hood ornament look different than on the current sedan?
I've never been in an older C Class. Does the hood ornament look different than on the current sedan?
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Originally posted by MarkL
I think Young has a coupe, so no stand-up ornament. I think the M-B hood ornament has been the same for at least 20 years.
I think Young has a coupe, so no stand-up ornament. I think the M-B hood ornament has been the same for at least 20 years.
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Originally posted by young
oh yeah, i meant that since i have a coupé, and it has a flat badge, the stand-up hood ornament on the sedans really stood out to me (no pun intended ).
it is my boss' current car and he had an older S-class before, and the hood ornament was HUGE! well, it seemed even bigger.
oh yeah, i meant that since i have a coupé, and it has a flat badge, the stand-up hood ornament on the sedans really stood out to me (no pun intended ).
it is my boss' current car and he had an older S-class before, and the hood ornament was HUGE! well, it seemed even bigger.
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Originally posted by revstriker
Thanks MarkL. I was just wondering if the view of the ornament from inside was different. On my old 76 MB, you could easily see the entire ornament, and where it attached to the front grill. On my current car, you can see the ornament, but the front slopes, so you can't really see where it meets the hood (at least, I can't from my sitting position). I wasn't sure if the hood on the older C was similarly sloped, or if it was more like my old MB (although I know that the ornament attaches to the hood, and not to the grill).
Thanks MarkL. I was just wondering if the view of the ornament from inside was different. On my old 76 MB, you could easily see the entire ornament, and where it attached to the front grill. On my current car, you can see the ornament, but the front slopes, so you can't really see where it meets the hood (at least, I can't from my sitting position). I wasn't sure if the hood on the older C was similarly sloped, or if it was more like my old MB (although I know that the ornament attaches to the hood, and not to the grill).
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Re: rode in the older c-class today
Originally posted by young
cup holder is still overengineered.
cup holder is still overengineered.
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ahh...i remember the days when my grandfather's chauffeur used to take the emblem off the front hood when the car isn't used just so the thieves wouldn't get it.
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Originally posted by accord
I swear that MB spends billions on the R&D of their cup holders .
I swear that MB spends billions on the R&D of their cup holders .
Having driven several manual transmission cars with conventional donut hole cupholders in the console, I appreciate the idea that the cupholder rises from its storage then displaces to the right. What looks at first to be an exercise in overengineering is, IMO, a fruitful attempt to place the cupholder out of range of those changing gears manually.
Although this is a less apparent feature with an automatic transmision, my wife has remarked that I have fewer Coca-Cola stains on my shirt sleeves, now that I'm NOT resting my elbow on that 28 oz fountain drink.
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Re: Re: Re: rode in the older c-class today
Originally posted by MB-BOB
I must run in the wrong circles, but my co-workers seem genuinely impressed with the design of the cup holder.
Having driven several manual transmission cars with conventional donut hole cupholders in the console, I appreciate the idea that the cupholder rises from its storage then displaces to the right. What looks at first to be an exercise in overengineering is, IMO, a fruitful attempt to place the cupholder out of range of those changing gears manually.
Although this is a less apparent feature with an automatic transmision, my wife has remarked that I have fewer Coca-Cola stains on my shirt sleeves, now that I'm NOT resting my elbow on that 28 oz fountain drink.
I must run in the wrong circles, but my co-workers seem genuinely impressed with the design of the cup holder.
Having driven several manual transmission cars with conventional donut hole cupholders in the console, I appreciate the idea that the cupholder rises from its storage then displaces to the right. What looks at first to be an exercise in overengineering is, IMO, a fruitful attempt to place the cupholder out of range of those changing gears manually.
Although this is a less apparent feature with an automatic transmision, my wife has remarked that I have fewer Coca-Cola stains on my shirt sleeves, now that I'm NOT resting my elbow on that 28 oz fountain drink.
One more thing, I forget whether or not the manual gear shift is higher, but if it's not, I would constantly bump into my cup while trying to shift.
I do like the "Pop-up" feature though. Kind of silly, but whenever someone rides in my car and says "nice car", I always add: "and check out the cup holder!" as I "pop" it open.
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Originally posted by MarkL
Personally, I don't eat or drink in my $35K car!
Personally, I don't eat or drink in my $35K car!
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ahh...i remember the days when my grandfather's chauffeur used to take the emblem off the front hood when the car isn't used just so the thieves wouldn't get it.
ahh...i remember the days when my grandfather's chauffeur used to take the emblem off the front hood when the car isn't used just so the thieves wouldn't get it.
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Cupholders?
Ehh, you guys make me really confused here. What kind of cupholders do you got in your cars? The only cupholder I have found in mine is the hole in the center console that appears when you pull that wooden-cover back. Same thing in the back seat. Just some plastic "holes" that can be pulled out from the center arm rest. You are talking about some over-engineered stuff, but to me, mine looks very, very simple. If you have some other type of cupholders than me, please post a pic of it/thiem!
Thanks!
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Re: Cupholders?
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Ehh, you guys make me really confused here. What kind of cupholders do you got in your cars? The only cupholder I have found in mine is the hole in the center console that appears when you pull that wooden-cover back. Same thing in the back seat. Just some plastic "holes" that can be pulled out from the center arm rest. You are talking about some over-engineered stuff, but to me, mine looks very, very simple. If you have some other type of cupholders than me, please post a pic of it/thiem!
Thanks!
Ehh, you guys make me really confused here. What kind of cupholders do you got in your cars? The only cupholder I have found in mine is the hole in the center console that appears when you pull that wooden-cover back. Same thing in the back seat. Just some plastic "holes" that can be pulled out from the center arm rest. You are talking about some over-engineered stuff, but to me, mine looks very, very simple. If you have some other type of cupholders than me, please post a pic of it/thiem!
Thanks!
Hopefully my discription isn't totally confusing. If it is, hopefully someone will clarify better, or post pics if needed.
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Re: Re: Cupholders?
Originally posted by revstriker
DtS, the cupholder that we have is located in the center compartment also. When you slide the wood cover back, there is a silver button that you press. The cup holder then slowly lifts up, and then flips over to the right revealing two places for cups. One is a hole into the center console (low), and the other is the higher one which flipped over. Is this not included on the Euro editions?
Hopefully my discription isn't totally confusing. If it is, hopefully someone will clarify better, or post pics if needed.
DtS, the cupholder that we have is located in the center compartment also. When you slide the wood cover back, there is a silver button that you press. The cup holder then slowly lifts up, and then flips over to the right revealing two places for cups. One is a hole into the center console (low), and the other is the higher one which flipped over. Is this not included on the Euro editions?
Hopefully my discription isn't totally confusing. If it is, hopefully someone will clarify better, or post pics if needed.
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I remember a few years back, some friends of mine from Germany were visiting me here in the US. Along with the normal American items that they wanted (Levis 501 etc.), they both LOVED the travel mugs that you could buy here. It seemed like everywhere we stopped, they would buy a travel mug. They even got one at the airport gift shop on their return trip home.
So I guess if travel mugs are not as available in Europe as here (although they could be now; this was about 8 years ago), then there's no need for them to be standard on cars as they are here.
Sorry if this story is a bit off topic, but I never really made that connection until now!
So I guess if travel mugs are not as available in Europe as here (although they could be now; this was about 8 years ago), then there's no need for them to be standard on cars as they are here.
Sorry if this story is a bit off topic, but I never really made that connection until now!
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here is a AVI movie of the cupholder in action.
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Re: here is a AVI movie of the cupholder in action.
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Re: here is a AVI movie of the cupholder in action.
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it's the handy feature of the digital camera that take small AVI video clips.
here is the stills for those have slow connection or don't want to download the video.
here is the stills for those have slow connection or don't want to download the video.
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Anyone besides me download and watch the avi, knowing that you play with the stupid thing every day?
Anyone besides me download and watch the avi, knowing that you play with the stupid thing every day?
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Originally posted by pel C
Anyone besides me download and watch the avi, knowing that you play with the stupid thing every day?
Anyone besides me download and watch the avi, knowing that you play with the stupid thing every day?
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Originally posted by young
i'm even more pathetic! i took a mpg shot of the cupholder too w/ my vocal sound effects added (shhhk, click, whoop, chkchk)... but i couldn't figure out how to share it b/c of the 200k attachment limit... spent about an hour (at work) trying to reduce the size of the mpg w/ crappy premiere (these are the times when i wish i had a mac...)
and Dts, you can order that part if you really want to. it probably costs US$150
btw, pix, i can't believe you actually use the coin slots! :p
i'm even more pathetic! i took a mpg shot of the cupholder too w/ my vocal sound effects added (shhhk, click, whoop, chkchk)... but i couldn't figure out how to share it b/c of the 200k attachment limit... spent about an hour (at work) trying to reduce the size of the mpg w/ crappy premiere (these are the times when i wish i had a mac...)
and Dts, you can order that part if you really want to. it probably costs US$150
btw, pix, i can't believe you actually use the coin slots! :p
btw - I was thinking the same thing about the coin holder!!