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Felix 12-24-2003 01:07 PM

c-classes facelift and C55 (pics)
 
here are the first official pics of the new C55 AMG, and the C-class facelift. the new instruments look like my VW passat ones, but also very good. the new (e-class based) clima-control is also very nice. and the new bigger DVD-Navigation (with MP3) is well known from the S, and CL since Nov.03.

http://www.jesmb.de/news/news/pics/c55-1.jpg

http://www.jesmb.de/news/news/pics/c55-2.jpg

http://www.jesmb.de/news/news/pics/c55-3.jpg

http://www.jesmb.de/news/news/pics/c55-5.jpg


The sportcoupe will get rearlight with white stripes. The C55 burns 367 HP und 510 NM on the road.

http://www.jesmb.de/news/news/pics/c-face1.jpg

http://www.jesmb.de/news/news/pics/c-face2.jpg

http://www.jesmb.de/news/news/pics/c-face3.jpg

http://www.jesmb.de/news/news/pics/c-face4.jpg

http://www.jesmb.de/news/news/pics/c-face5.jpg

http://www.jesmb.de/news/news/pics/c-face6.jpg

all cars will have SL-style LED break- and backlights, this might be an interesting upgrade for current c-class owners!

what do you think of the changes?

merry chrismas, Felix

Kar don 12-24-2003 01:28 PM

I must say, new interior looks sharp... I don't know about those exterior shots tho, seems fishy still. The grille looks terrible imo and why is it that the C-wagon has the elevated headlamp washer while the "C55" has the flush integrated washers like the new SL?

jpb5151 12-24-2003 01:29 PM

367 hp? Doesn't seem like an incredible jump from the C32, but maybe it's got a flatter torque curve or something?

lars 12-24-2003 01:51 PM

Looks/ sounds like a good set of improvements. The revised instrument cluster removes one of my issues with the current Cs. Will these be the real 2004.5s?

brabus c 12-24-2003 01:55 PM

omg i love the new interior...and i like the new cluster and climate control..... i want i want .......C55 imo looks soo NICE

LorinserCClass 12-24-2003 01:57 PM

The rear lights on the c coupe are sexay as fuq!! That AMG coupe is sweet:)

amdeutsch 12-24-2003 01:57 PM

For more info go to jesmb and look for yourself.

LorinserCClass 12-24-2003 02:01 PM


Originally posted by brabus c
omg i love the new interior...and i like the new cluster and climate control..... i want i want .......C55 imo looks soo NICE

OMG JIM! I agree w/you on the climate control AND the cluster!! I wonder if we can swap when they come out?? Looks like Steve will have a new wave of W203 customers:D

tom incredibie 12-24-2003 02:13 PM

i wonder how much it'll cost :D

wawy 12-24-2003 02:15 PM

Big improvement on the rear lights for the coupe over the current styling.

coppermine 12-24-2003 02:46 PM

Very sharp looking interior, but does anyone know when they will be at the dealers?

I hope steve can swap those 2004.5 parts to our current c class, esp the DVD nag and climate control. Steve, you have any words or info about this? Thanks

kodoq 12-24-2003 02:48 PM

love the steering wheel and the speedometer

DL_AMG 12-24-2003 03:26 PM

I will like to see the improvement on the suspension/ handling , I will care less about the look. ;)

liquidbond 12-24-2003 03:27 PM

wouldn't mind having that new cluster and the tail lights for the coupe.

It looks sweet:)

Lynn 12-24-2003 03:32 PM


Originally posted by coppermine
Very sharp looking interior, but does anyone know when they will be at the dealers?

I hope steve can swap those 2004.5 parts to our current c class, esp the DVD nag and climate control. Steve, you have any words or info about this? Thanks

The DVD COMAND uses the MOST protocol on the fiber optic loop. Our cars use D2B. The DVD COMAND won't work unless MB modifies it to work on D2B. Since MOST is where MB is going, I doubt that there will be a DVD COMAND that can be retro-fitted to D2B cars.

tifosiv122 12-24-2003 04:24 PM

I guess I am getting new tail lights...those are hot!

The interiors....ewwwwwww....are they UGLY! Very modern looking, not classy enough...and the buttons on the wheels...very Lexusish.

Erik

AndrewK 12-24-2003 06:21 PM

Sign me up for the new taillights... and the new instrument panel. I would swap out for mine any day!!! Someone please tell me its possible! (no more, well it will work in the sedan but not the coupe!)

FrankW 12-24-2003 06:28 PM

:eek:

love the new dash.

Guest0001 12-24-2003 06:38 PM

I dont like like the instrament cluster at all! Everything else looks GREAT though! :eek: :D .

So this is OFFICIAL? I cant wait to see it in person!

kineda 12-24-2003 06:42 PM

Looks like the front bumper of the coupe gets a lift as well.

That front bumper is neither the current stock version or the amg version offered.

yipikaye 12-24-2003 07:02 PM

its a sharp interior, i like it!!! but the gauge looks a litt'l bit like audi's gauge

BlackC230Coupe 12-24-2003 08:07 PM

why am i not liking those rear lights on the coupe?:confused: I guess i need to see it in person.

tifosiv122 12-24-2003 09:05 PM


Originally posted by BlackC230Coupe
why am i not liking those rear lights on the coupe?:confused: I guess i need to see it in person.
I am thinking smoking out the white part...so its black and red...mmm nice.

Erik

BlackC230Coupe 12-24-2003 09:37 PM


Originally posted by tifosiv122
I am thinking smoking out the white part...so its black and red...mmm nice.

Erik


Now there is an idea i can like, kinda like the SL55 only a different style light.

BlackC230Coupe 12-24-2003 09:50 PM

here is a quick photoshop job of what they can looked like smoked. (very quick) but u can get the point.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...5/fa350535.jpg

tifosiv122 12-24-2003 10:56 PM


Originally posted by BlackC230Coupe
here is a quick photoshop job of what they can looked like smoked. (very quick) but u can get the point.
Remember that blue SLK that smoked his rears...just the white part...it was black and red....sooooo hot!

Erik

OneOldKid 12-24-2003 11:42 PM

new C230k Sport Sedan???
 
Any idea if this "facelift" will be arriving on my new C230K Sedan when it arrives in late January/Early February? It was built on December 17th.

BlackC230Coupe 12-25-2003 12:13 AM


Originally posted by tifosiv122
Remember that blue SLK that smoked his rears...just the white part...it was black and red....sooooo hot!

Erik

actually no, this is the only one i seen.

http://www.formymercedes.com/gallery/gallery53.jpg

mbphreak 12-25-2003 01:28 AM

Da da damn...
 
Looks like it's time to trade up my car for a newer model...ahhhhh the modding saga continues :D

mmgrad 12-25-2003 02:43 AM

oh ****... that looks hot...

i want one... put me on the list...

tifosiv122 12-25-2003 03:03 AM


Originally posted by BlackC230Coupe
actually no, this is the only one i seen.


In my memory he smoked them backwards...grr. I've seen a car with smoked clear part and red otherwise, and it looked hot too.

Erik

e_one09 12-25-2003 04:31 AM

I love the new head lamps and the new cluster. They look very updated and fresh.

C320-sptsdn 12-25-2003 11:30 AM

Were the pics pulled? IF so, anyone still have them?

Felix 12-25-2003 01:29 PM

check out www.jesmb.de

the webmaster changed the links.

C320-sptsdn 12-25-2003 01:40 PM


Originally posted by Felix
check out www.jesmb.de

the webmaster changed the links.

Thanks, better.

e_one09 12-25-2003 06:22 PM


Originally posted by Felix
check out www.jesmb.de

the webmaster changed the links.

Thanks for the link.

OneOldKid 12-26-2003 09:09 PM

Looks almost exactly like the Audi A4 cluster...

coppermine 12-26-2003 09:18 PM

When will we be able to check the new facelift at the dealers? Early January maybe?

Outland 12-26-2003 10:32 PM

I like what I see. New interior looks cool, love the ringed gauges. The new steering wheel for the coupe is great! The amber lights are gone as well.

The new nose on the coupe is going to be a definate upgrade should mine need to be repaired or replaced! Love the more aggressive look!

I think the fuss some folks are making about the tail lights on the coupe is pretty overblown. They are the same shape, just with the white stripes ala the SLK. I think if they added a portion on the hatch with some lights it would change the look of the rear end significantly. Still, not a high priority in my book.

jmartinacevedo 12-28-2003 11:33 PM

NEW FACELIFT RELEASE
 
According to the european publications on the subject I've read, production begins as of February 2004.

If it is true that the facelifted C240 gets a new 2.5 making 190HP, then I'm tradin'...

Martin-;)

tifosiv122 12-29-2003 12:01 AM

Re: NEW FACELIFT RELEASE
 

Originally posted by jmartinacevedo
If it is true that the facelifted C240 gets a new 2.5 making 190HP, then I'm tradin'...
Why would MB have 2 models (the 240 and the 230) both available in Sedan both pulling 190hp (189)? I understand one is a 6 the other a SC 4, but still...thats odd.

Erik

BlackC230Coupe 12-29-2003 01:13 AM

Re: Re: NEW FACELIFT RELEASE
 

Originally posted by tifosiv122
Why would MB have 2 models (the 240 and the 230) both available in Sedan both pulling 190hp (189)? I understand one is a 6 the other a SC 4, but still...thats odd.

Erik

I agree. Very stupid! it makes no sense, i understand the C230 sedan is a little more sporty, but its not such a big difference, they can delete either the C240 and make a C230 sedan without the sport package if they want. And its pretty much the same thing.

FrankW 12-29-2003 04:28 AM

Re: Re: NEW FACELIFT RELEASE
 

Originally posted by tifosiv122
Why would MB have 2 models (the 240 and the 230) both available in Sedan both pulling 190hp (189)? I understand one is a 6 the other a SC 4, but still...thats odd.

Erik

well, for that you can look back at the 99-2000 w202 C280 and the C230k. They both had 190 something horsepower, but the C280 had a more useful torque band.

jpb5151 12-29-2003 06:01 AM

Re: Re: Re: NEW FACELIFT RELEASE
 

Originally posted by FrankW
the C280 had a more useful torque band.
That makes a lot of sense. When we got our 230k sedan, the main negative thing we put on the initial survey was that the car had no power at low engine rpms. If a new 240 comes with the engine stated above, that problem would be completely solved.

Also, weren't sales of the 240 going down the drain?

The interior is probably important too. For example, my wife hated the wood look of the 320 and really liked the aluminum of the 230. Others are probably just the opposite, yet don't want to blow a few thousand extra for the 320?

FrankW 12-29-2003 06:39 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: NEW FACELIFT RELEASE
 

Originally posted by jpb5151
That makes a lot of sense. When we got our 230k sedan, the main negative thing we put on the initial survey was that the car had no power at low engine rpms. If a new 240 comes with the engine stated above, that problem would be completely solved.

Also, weren't sales of the 240 going down the drain?

The interior is probably important too. For example, my wife hated the wood look of the 320 and really liked the aluminum of the 230. Others are probably just the opposite, yet don't want to blow a few thousand extra for the 320?

I think the 240 still sold better than the 320. Every where you look it's 240 passing by. Most who buy'em don't care about hp and TQ all they need to know it's that it has a V6 and has a bargain price tag to go w/ it.

I can't stand the wood trim in the W203 as well. Somehow the pattern they chose for the trim looks like those faux trims used in Chrysler. It's kind of like you buy a IS300 and order it w/ the wood trim on the door handle.

some people do like them tho. It still gives the car a warmer look inside.

The NEW interior will be awesome.:)

amdeutsch 12-29-2003 06:43 AM

Wasn't it also the case that the 230 sedan is a model over here only? Could it be that it was in response to a more youth oriented driver, more affordable. The C240 may be OK at highway speeds but didn't really satisfy below that. JMHO

FrankW 12-29-2003 06:47 AM

don't think that's the case because C230k is availble everywhere. Speaking of sales figure, I was only thinking about the US. sorry if it wasn't clear.

through out the world, the most model sold would probably be the C200k or the C180k:nix:

amdeutsch 12-29-2003 06:53 AM


Originally posted by FrankW
don't think that's the case because C230k is availble everywhere....
It doesn't appear on the German website, pricelist or build your own. And I'm too lazy to search country by country other than USA and Canada.

FrankW 12-29-2003 06:55 AM


Originally posted by amdeutsch
It doesn't appear on the German website, pricelist or build your own. And I'm too lazy to search country by country other than USA and Canada.
I'm lazy too...haha u might be right too...:nix:

EDIT: checked Taiwan and UK's site...not there either...so you might really be right.

vraa 12-29-2003 06:55 AM


Originally posted by amdeutsch
It doesn't appear on the German website, pricelist or build your own. And I'm too lazy to search country by country other than USA and Canada.
A true man.

amdeutsch 12-29-2003 07:06 AM


Originally posted by FrankW
I'm lazy too...haha u might be right too...:nix:

EDIT: checked Taiwan and UK's site...not there either...so you might really be right.

Either you are pulling a vraa or you get up really early. Either way its OK......... (j/k) :D

FrankW 12-29-2003 07:10 AM


Originally posted by amdeutsch
Either you are pulling a vraa or you get up really early. Either way its OK......... (j/k) :D
up early? how about not even gone to sleep yet...at 4:12AM Pacific time.:hammer:

man...I should go sleep....be back tomorrow for the next post...:D

amdeutsch 12-29-2003 07:23 AM


Originally posted by FrankW
up early? how about not even gone to sleep yet...at 4:12AM Pacific time.:hammer:
Thats what I meant with pulling a vraa. :D


Originally posted by FrankW
man...I should go sleep....be back tomorrow for the next post...:D
OK, see you Tuesday. :rolf:

nexus6 12-29-2003 10:15 AM

I spoke with my local dealer about this and he said that the facelifted version was only going to apply to the AMG V8 C-Class for the US market.

Any thoughts?

mctwin2kman 12-29-2003 10:20 AM

The C230K sedan is only available in the US. So maybe if the C240 gets a power boost they will dump the C230K Sedan and make an option for the C240 Sport Sedan. Also good dump the kompressor coupe and go to a C240 coupe as well. Then again I like the SC'ed 4 banger sound and feel and they seem to be keeping the 1.8 around for the SLK redo... Maybe they will boost the power on the 1.8 to be over 200HP all around and keep both the 240 and the 230....

brabus c 12-29-2003 01:53 PM

everyone with a c240 right now got jipped.... thats all i can say :X i want the c55 :D

LorinserCClass 12-29-2003 02:27 PM


Originally posted by brabus c
everyone with a c240 right now got jipped.... thats all i can say :X i want the c55 :D
Yup...I paid full price too so I got gyped 2X:beat:

BlackC230Coupe 12-29-2003 04:07 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NEW FACELIFT RELEASE
 

Originally posted by FrankW

I can't stand the wood trim in the W203 as well.

:word:

jmartinacevedo 12-31-2003 12:36 AM

FACELIFTED C-CLASS RELEASE
 
A facelifted C240 4matic with sport package and the new 2.5L making 190hp-- That's just perfect for me. (Can't afford the C320 with the 4matic):(

Can't wait to (late) February / (early) March of next year!!

Martin-

jmartinacevedo 12-31-2003 12:37 AM

Will it still be called a C "240"
 
If the 2.5L is in fact coming, I wonder if they'll call it a C250?

BlackC230Coupe 12-31-2003 11:13 AM

Re: Will it still be called a C "240"
 

Originally posted by jmartinacevedo
If the 2.5L is in fact coming, I wonder if they'll call it a C250?
If u wanna go by that then u have a C260, but i think it would be a good idea to change the model so people know its different, i doubt they will just like the C230 Coupe is now a 1.8L and still a C230.

oggle 12-31-2003 11:21 AM

And then there was the C261, C283, C430, C562, C007, C92, and to welcome 2004: C04...:beat:


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