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Old 12-14-2007, 08:35 PM
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A Good Yellow Fog Light output ...

And so I finally installed the PIAA Xtreme White Plus HALOGEN bulbs (4000K) for my W204... And I am happy! It was plug & play(no worries about any "bulb out" error messages).

Next, I wanna get Yellow Halogens for the fog lights. Somebody has mentioned that the new W204s use H7 for the fogs, and not H11s as stated in the manual.

Any suggestions as to what brand and spec will give me the most yellow output?

Thanks in advance.

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of course u wouldn't get bulb out errors.. ur replacing halogen bulbs with different halogen bulbs.. lol.

you only get that if you change from halogen to HID.
Old 12-14-2007, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Lakerz4sho
of course u wouldn't get bulb out errors.. ur replacing halogen bulbs with different halogen bulbs.. lol.

you only get that if you change from halogen to HID.
I know... I was initially wanting to get an HID kit, but didn't wanna deal with those errors as posted by other members... So I went with Halogen replacements, and I gotta say, they're pretty decent.

Now, if anybody could just help me with my original question...

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I liked the hyper optics (sp?) that I got for my e90.
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Have you seen the PIAA Crystal Ion bulbs? Clear glass but they have a yellow internal bulb which illuminate a bright Euro yellow light. My dealer said they would be perfect for My W204 fog lights. Let me know about the size descrepancy- I was ready to order the Crystal Ions in H11.
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Originally Posted by BlackMercBenz
And so I finally installed the PIAA Xtreme White Plus HALOGEN bulbs (4000K) for my W204... And I am happy! It was plug & play(no worries about any "bulb out" error messages).

Next, I wanna get Yellow Halogens for the fog lights. Somebody has mentioned that the new W204s use H7 for the fogs, and not H11s as stated in the manual.

Any suggestions as to what brand and spec will give me the most yellow output?

Thanks in advance.

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so the non hid w204's are simple plug and play ....nice to know

was just wondering why the h7 bulbs i got look so different than the bulbs in my headlamps now. ive had these piaa's as well for about 2 weeks but was thinking of returning them since i thought they wouldnt fit ?? tia
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I own 2008 C-350 2008 E-350 2005 C -230 Kompressor 2006 FORd F-350 6.0
Alays been too scared to remove the bulb out . I seen my bother change out the bulbs on many other cars he owned all new car and always had humidty in the headlamps . I get concerned if this can happen too . I never had an issue with factory bulb
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I replaced my high & low beams with the PIAA Extreme white plus (4000k) and they look incredible. We did one side at a time to compare- what a difference. I also purchased the PIAA Ion Crystal Yellow H11 for my Fog lights. I will admit changing the high beam is a pain in the a$$. Even though they are the same bulb as the low beam- mb uses a different retention system. You think the bulb won't stay and finally after 20 minutes of messing- it lines up perfectly. As far as the fog lights- unless someone has some great tips for replacement they will be done at the dealership. I never thought I would imagine paying someone $100+ to install bulb for me but i'm not taking any chances on breaking something.
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i think i got the same bulbs as you did piaa's extreme something were these H7's if i may ask ??? if you look at the piaa's they're itzy tiny bulbs but when i looked in front of the car into the headlight housing the low beam bulbs look huge thus i thought i got the wrong bulbs ??? can you kindly confirm that the low beams are H7's so i wont have to return them ....thank you in advance sir
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i have an 05 gto too and i put a set of 3000k fogs along with my 5000k heads all hid and im lit up like a xmas tree...no pun intended hahah...but im waiting for my c300 to come in which i got p2 with multi media so i think im just going to go with a 3000k halogen bulb especially since the p2 has corener illuminating fog lights..... 3000k have the most light out put....12000k has the least... and the rest are in between
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The fog light bulbs are pretty easy to change.
I have Hoen Performance rallye-style yellow bulbs coming my way soon, they should be very yellow from all angles and excellent for poor weather driving.
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<<i think i got the same bulbs as you did piaa's extreme something were these H7's if i may ask ??? if you look at the piaa's they're itzy tiny bulbs but when i looked in front of the car into the headlight housing the low beam bulbs look huge thus i thought i got the wrong bulbs ??? can you kindly confirm that the low beams are H7's so i wont have to return them >>

Are the H-7 PIAA Ion-Crystal bulbs 55W or something more? Who has the lowest price? I have been using 85W Ion-Crystal H-3s in my 944 for more than ten years and I like the yellow light they project.

And are the C300's fogs actually H-7s? How are they accessed? In my W203 I had to remove the underpanels on each side to access the back of the light which was a pain.

I have already installed 80W H-7s in the inner high beam lamps (Bi-Xenon present) and I think I can see the difference. They are from JC Whitney at a reasonable price.
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300E a couple 1994 w124wagon E320 Wagon/,1971MGB Track/Rally, MG Midget Autocross ,2000 E320 wagon.
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with www.danielsternlighting.com
he has the euro spec selective yellow for a lot of applications as well as the 65 watt H7 rally bulbs.h9 burners on an h7 base.
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MAKE SURE YOU GUYS DONT GET TOO HIGH OF A WATTAGE THEY WILL FOG YORU LENSES AND BURN YOUR HOUSING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STICK WITH THE SAME WATTAGE AS STOCK....BUT JUST USE A GOOD BULB WITH A 3000K COLOR.....i know from experince on one of my other cars...
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And are the C300's fogs actually H-7s? How are they accessed? In my W203 I had to remove the underpanels on each side to access the back of the light which was a pain.
The C300 foglights (at least in the sport models) are actually H7 (even though the owner's manual says H11). I did access the foglights to see what they are and they are indeed H7's.
To access the bulbs you unscrew a few screws to release the black plastic foglight trim surrounds, reach through the opening and behind the foglight housing to pull out the bulbs. It takes about 5 minutes to do.
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Fog access

The C300 foglights (at least in the sport models) are actually H7 (even though the owner's manual says H11). I did access the foglights to see what they are and they are indeed H7's. To access the bulbs you unscrew a few screws to release the black plastic foglight trim surrounds, reach through the opening and behind the foglight housing to pull out the bulbs. It takes about 5 minutes to do.

Thanks for the info. Nice to see MB made something easy, for a change.
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Thanks much for all the input, guys!!!
I will post pics when this lighting project is done.. Prolly won't be till next year, but I'm excited, nevertheless.

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has anybody mentioned Hoen-USA.com ..i have a yellow output bulb on my M3 and they actually look like hid fogs. everybody askes if they are hid fogs

check these out before you puchase anything else!
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For light bulb removal

<<To access the bulbs you unscrew a few screws to release the black plastic foglight trim surrounds, reach through the opening and behind the foglight housing to pull out the bulbs. It takes about 5 minutes to do.>>

Unfortunately, this does not apply to the Luxury model. There is no access from the front (the screw is for beam height adjustment only) and even with removal of the front engine cover, the lamp cannot be reached. Perhaps if my arm was about one foot longer....

Looks like it's the same problem as the W203 in that the panel underneath will have to be removed. With great difficulty, looks like.
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I can't believe you guys are saying the fogs are H7! I have had these frickin PIAA Ion Crystal H11's sitting here waiting for me (just had shoulder surgery and cant change them out). I am sooo pissed. I checked the PIAA site and they dont show the H7 in the yellow.
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has anybody mentioned Hoen-USA.com ..i have a yellow output bulb on my M3 and they actually look like hid fogs. everybody askes if they are hid fogs

check these out before you puchase anything else!
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Thanks!!!
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I'm at the dealership and asked about the fog light bulbs. They said if you have the AMG body kit- the bulb is h7. If you have the luxury version- it is the h11.
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why would you want yellow fogs anyway? IMHO I think they are ugly
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It's a European thing (maybe you just don't get it). I want yellow because that is an actual fog light (not driving light) and we get lots of morning fog where I live.
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Originally Posted by aowhaus
The C300 foglights (at least in the sport models) are actually H7 (even though the owner's manual says H11). I did access the foglights to see what they are and they are indeed H7's.
To access the bulbs you unscrew a few screws to release the black plastic foglight trim surrounds, reach through the opening and behind the foglight housing to pull out the bulbs. It takes about 5 minutes to do.
AOWHAUS...
Thanks for the post!
I just replaced my fog light bulbs with Bosch All-Weather H-7's in less than 5 minutes just like you said!
The hardest part was putting the bulb back into the assembly on the driver's side.


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