2009 C-Class *COUPE*
05-17-2008, 04:57 AM
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Only thing I can think of is its available as a convertible or with v8 power which would make it more expensive. To be accurate the CLK 350 coupe is $10 grand more than a C350, but I still agree with you on it being too expensive for what it is. By the way a new version of the CLK is on its way soon and will be based off the w204 platform.
The base price of a CLK350 is 14000 Euro more than a CLC350, which comes out to about $22000 more.
05-17-2008, 04:22 PM
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This thread has been entertainment. I'm not here to fan the flames of Coupe bashing. I just think it is funny that people who have the w204 chassis don't realize how close the car looks to the new Honda Accord.
People who bought Coupes generally bought it for cargo space. I did.
The fact that the first year got the M111 engine was icing on the cake.
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People who bought Coupes generally bought it for cargo space. I did.
The fact that the first year got the M111 engine was icing on the cake.
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05-17-2008, 07:25 PM
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<<With the 204 being out, the CLC should be put up against the CLK for comparison, and I have yet to find the CLK's justification for being twice as expensive as a CLC.>>
You are failing to grasp MB pricing schemes. For each door you remove, add $10000.
You are failing to grasp MB pricing schemes. For each door you remove, add $10000.
05-17-2008, 07:30 PM
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Coupe styling, if you want to call it that.
The few Coupes I have driven have been service loaners. If you can't sell them......
Some with Pano roof, some not. Interiors in several shades of black, pick your favorite. All were the nasty 4-cylinder model with the flatulent exhaust note. The body shape made me think of a baboon in heat, what with the rear end hiked up in the air that way.
It's really a beginners car.
Some with Pano roof, some not. Interiors in several shades of black, pick your favorite. All were the nasty 4-cylinder model with the flatulent exhaust note. The body shape made me think of a baboon in heat, what with the rear end hiked up in the air that way.
It's really a beginners car.
05-17-2008, 07:39 PM
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The few Coupes I have driven have been service loaners. If you can't sell them......
Some with Pano roof, some not. Interiors in several shades of black, pick your favorite. All were the nasty 4-cylinder model with the flatulent exhaust note. The body shape made me think of a baboon in heat, what with the rear end hiked up in the air that way.
It's really a beginners car.
Some with Pano roof, some not. Interiors in several shades of black, pick your favorite. All were the nasty 4-cylinder model with the flatulent exhaust note. The body shape made me think of a baboon in heat, what with the rear end hiked up in the air that way.
It's really a beginners car.
Quite comical. Most of the dead stock cars are a bit numb. The loaners anyway.
I invite you to drive my Coupe. Not like a M271 loaner.
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05-18-2008, 03:52 AM
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And there's already another thread about the w204 looking like the Accord. I disagree. The '02 Camry, perhaps, from the back. But not the new Accord. Nice try though.
05-18-2008, 03:39 PM
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I gave my input on the looks of the W204 versus the Accord. End of story. I have no need to attempt to convince you of anything. Were I you, I would surely drink any amount of Jim Jones Kool-Aid in order to maintain that my German car bore no resemblence to a lesser import.
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05-18-2008, 08:49 PM
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I agree, the new Accord looks more like the BMW 5 Series, but no where near W204. Not that i have anything against the Accord, I have an 03 myself.
05-19-2008, 12:22 AM
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I don't know what it is about your personality that requires you to go beyond obnoxious. But no matter.
I gave my input on the looks of the W204 versus the Accord. End of story. I have no need to attempt to convince you of anything. Were I you, I would surely drink any amount of Jim Jones Kool-Aid in order to maintain that my German car bore no resemblence to a lesser import.
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I gave my input on the looks of the W204 versus the Accord. End of story. I have no need to attempt to convince you of anything. Were I you, I would surely drink any amount of Jim Jones Kool-Aid in order to maintain that my German car bore no resemblence to a lesser import.
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I have no reason or capacity to be convinced that the C-coupe is anything other than a horrible design mistake by MB. You can't do it. So don't be so hurt because someone thinks your car looks like crap. Talk about being defensive... inferiority complex, anyone? If someone says my car is garbage (my brother does so weekly while pointing out how cheaply this and that are made), I don't get hurt. And were I you, I would never drink any amount of "Jim Jones Kool-Aid", for any reason. End of story. Oops.
Oh, and no C-coupe owner I know bought it for its cargo space; they bought it because it was the cheapest MB.
Good job on the correct usage of the subjunctive form "were I" though. I commend you on your excellent (in this case, at least) grasp of the English grammar.
However, the word is spelled resembl"a"nce, not resembl"e"nce, if you really want obnoxious. 
... and I think obnoxious is a person who believes that a Honda or a Toyota is a "lesser import" simply because it is made in Japan, not in Germany/South Africa. In fact, I love Hondas/Acuras in general for their mechanical design philosophy (less is more), and hate Toyotas/Lexuses for their absolutely bland personalities. Yet I still respect the latter for their rock-solid reliability.
I bought this car because it's a cool car, not because it's a German car. Take that, you obnoxious snob.
This is fun. Let's keep going. Kinda reminds me of elementary school.
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eh... let's stop.
05-19-2008, 04:53 AM
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I am disappointed in the direction of this thread; why are we here arguing about opinions? It is impossible to accomplish anything more than making others aware of your justifications and preferences.
Once we have made our opinions clear, input beyond objective commentary is simply a waste of time and screen space, and without a doubt reflects poorly on its author.
Once we have made our opinions clear, input beyond objective commentary is simply a waste of time and screen space, and without a doubt reflects poorly on its author.
05-19-2008, 09:01 AM
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I am disappointed in the direction of this thread; why are we here arguing about opinions? It is impossible to accomplish anything more than making others aware of your justifications and preferences.
Once we have made our opinions clear, input beyond objective commentary is simply a waste of time and screen space, and without a doubt reflects poorly on its author.
Once we have made our opinions clear, input beyond objective commentary is simply a waste of time and screen space, and without a doubt reflects poorly on its author.
Stop moralizing from your lofty perch. You're not my father, and as such you have no right or reason to tell me how to best utilize my time. Neither are you a moderator. So until a mod steps in and says, "This inane and asinine discussion is OVER," let us waste as we please. No one's forcing you to read this.
I must, however, admit that this thread is degenerating into a cold, hard, piece of poo, not unlike the ... yeah.
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05-19-2008, 02:48 PM
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What is your 2 door car in the market ? Show us give name and shut up
05-19-2008, 03:05 PM
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First, I respect the fact you don't like the coupe. It is a free country and car design is emotional -- some people like certain designs and some do not. That's absolutely fine. Look at the never-ending controversy surrounding Chris Bangle. But there's no need for anyone to get rude in terms of expressing opinions. Not just you, but others here too. Why the anger? It's just a car, at the end of the day.
Second, you are aware, aren't you that you also own the cheapest Mercedes currently available in the U.S.? Did you buy it because it was the cheapest, or because it was a manual transmission? It very well could be because it is the only manual sedan Mercedes sells. There's absolutely nothing wrong if you purchased it for either reason, btw.
Third, our household income was about $300k per year when we purchased the W203 C230K coupe. We purchased it because we wanted a practical two door car with flexible cargo room, a manual transmission, either a convertible or very large sunroof, good fuel efficiency (to lessen our dependence on people who do not like us), and a full complement of safety equipment. This was the car that met our requirements, and we have been very pleased with it. Lack of income did not come into play, in other words.
I don't like the 204 coupe becuase it strikes me as a marketing effort not backed by real advancements in engineering, in the sense that MB simply tweaked a 203. The original 203 coupe was a cool car, IMHO, because it combined Mercedes' latest safety and chassis engineering into a compact, fun to drive, practical and safe car. The 204 is a better car, as is always the case when Mercedes introduces a new model, so it would have been cool to see those advancements incorporated into a new coupe.
My opinion is the problem Mercedes had with the coupe has to do with the fact that relative to its peers, i.e., other sporty hatchbacks, it was very expensive, and that because it was a small Benz (the W201 190 series also received significant criticism when it was introduced in the U.S. as the "cheap Benz"), there is a percentage of the public that buys cars for the brand and not the engineering, and is thus too insecure to own the coupe if that is the car that would otherwise serve their needs. When everyone leases, the difference in price between the coupe and the CLK probably was $100 a month or so, so get the more expensive car and impress the neighbors, right? That's the American way, after all.
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05-19-2008, 03:19 PM
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A couple of thoughts here:
First, I respect the fact you don't like the coupe. It is a free country and car design is emotional -- some people like certain designs and some do not. That's absolutely fine. Look at the never-ending controversy surrounding Chris Bangle. But there's no need for anyone to get rude in terms of expressing opinions. Not just you, but others here too. Why the anger? It's just a car, at the end of the day.
Second, you are aware, aren't you that you also own the cheapest Mercedes currently available in the U.S.? Did you buy it because it was the cheapest, or because it was a manual transmission? It very well could be because it is the only manual sedan Mercedes sells. There's absolutely nothing wrong if you purchased it for either reason, btw.
Third, our household income was about $300k per year when we purchased the W203 C230K coupe. We purchased it because we wanted a practical two door car with flexible cargo room, a manual transmission, either a convertible or very large sunroof, good fuel efficiency (to lessen our dependence on people who do not like us), and a full complement of safety equipment. This was the car that met our requirements, and we have been very pleased with it. Lack of income did not come into play, in other words.
I don't like the 204 coupe becuase it strikes me as a marketing effort not backed by real advancements in engineering, in the sense that MB simply tweaked a 203. The original 203 coupe was a cool car, IMHO, because it combined Mercedes' latest safety and chassis engineering into a compact, fun to drive, practical and safe car. The 204 is a better car, as is always the case when Mercedes introduces a new model, so it would have been cool to see those advancements incorporated into a new coupe.
My opinion is the problem Mercedes had with the coupe has to do with the fact that relative to its peers, i.e., other sporty hatchbacks, it was very expensive, and that because it was a small Benz (the W201 190 series also received significant criticism when it was introduced in the U.S. as the "cheap Benz"), there is a percentage of the public that buys cars for the brand and not the engineering, and is thus too insecure to own the coupe if that is the car that would otherwise serve their needs. When everyone leases, the difference in price between the coupe and the CLK probably was $100 a month or so, so get the more expensive car and impress the neighbors, right? That's the American way, after all.
First, I respect the fact you don't like the coupe. It is a free country and car design is emotional -- some people like certain designs and some do not. That's absolutely fine. Look at the never-ending controversy surrounding Chris Bangle. But there's no need for anyone to get rude in terms of expressing opinions. Not just you, but others here too. Why the anger? It's just a car, at the end of the day.
Second, you are aware, aren't you that you also own the cheapest Mercedes currently available in the U.S.? Did you buy it because it was the cheapest, or because it was a manual transmission? It very well could be because it is the only manual sedan Mercedes sells. There's absolutely nothing wrong if you purchased it for either reason, btw.
Third, our household income was about $300k per year when we purchased the W203 C230K coupe. We purchased it because we wanted a practical two door car with flexible cargo room, a manual transmission, either a convertible or very large sunroof, good fuel efficiency (to lessen our dependence on people who do not like us), and a full complement of safety equipment. This was the car that met our requirements, and we have been very pleased with it. Lack of income did not come into play, in other words.
I don't like the 204 coupe becuase it strikes me as a marketing effort not backed by real advancements in engineering, in the sense that MB simply tweaked a 203. The original 203 coupe was a cool car, IMHO, because it combined Mercedes' latest safety and chassis engineering into a compact, fun to drive, practical and safe car. The 204 is a better car, as is always the case when Mercedes introduces a new model, so it would have been cool to see those advancements incorporated into a new coupe.
My opinion is the problem Mercedes had with the coupe has to do with the fact that relative to its peers, i.e., other sporty hatchbacks, it was very expensive, and that because it was a small Benz (the W201 190 series also received significant criticism when it was introduced in the U.S. as the "cheap Benz"), there is a percentage of the public that buys cars for the brand and not the engineering, and is thus too insecure to own the coupe if that is the car that would otherwise serve their needs. When everyone leases, the difference in price between the coupe and the CLK probably was $100 a month or so, so get the more expensive car and impress the neighbors, right? That's the American way, after all.
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A couple of thoughts here:
First, I respect the fact you don't like the coupe. It is a free country and car design is emotional -- some people like certain designs and some do not. That's absolutely fine. Look at the never-ending controversy surrounding Chris Bangle. But there's no need for anyone to get rude in terms of expressing opinions. Not just you, but others here too. Why the anger? It's just a car, at the end of the day.
Second, you are aware, aren't you that you also own the cheapest Mercedes currently available in the U.S.? Did you buy it because it was the cheapest, or because it was a manual transmission? It very well could be because it is the only manual sedan Mercedes sells. There's absolutely nothing wrong if you purchased it for either reason, btw.
Third, our household income was about $300k per year when we purchased the W203 C230K coupe. We purchased it because we wanted a practical two door car with flexible cargo room, a manual transmission, either a convertible or very large sunroof, good fuel efficiency (to lessen our dependence on people who do not like us), and a full complement of safety equipment. This was the car that met our requirements, and we have been very pleased with it. Lack of income did not come into play, in other words.
I don't like the 204 coupe becuase it strikes me as a marketing effort not backed by real advancements in engineering, in the sense that MB simply tweaked a 203. The original 203 coupe was a cool car, IMHO, because it combined Mercedes' latest safety and chassis engineering into a compact, fun to drive, practical and safe car. The 204 is a better car, as is always the case when Mercedes introduces a new model, so it would have been cool to see those advancements incorporated into a new coupe.
My opinion is the problem Mercedes had with the coupe has to do with the fact that relative to its peers, i.e., other sporty hatchbacks, it was very expensive, and that because it was a small Benz (the W201 190 series also received significant criticism when it was introduced in the U.S. as the "cheap Benz"), there is a percentage of the public that buys cars for the brand and not the engineering, and is thus too insecure to own the coupe if that is the car that would otherwise serve their needs. When everyone leases, the difference in price between the coupe and the CLK probably was $100 a month or so, so get the more expensive car and impress the neighbors, right? That's the American way, after all.
First, I respect the fact you don't like the coupe. It is a free country and car design is emotional -- some people like certain designs and some do not. That's absolutely fine. Look at the never-ending controversy surrounding Chris Bangle. But there's no need for anyone to get rude in terms of expressing opinions. Not just you, but others here too. Why the anger? It's just a car, at the end of the day.
Second, you are aware, aren't you that you also own the cheapest Mercedes currently available in the U.S.? Did you buy it because it was the cheapest, or because it was a manual transmission? It very well could be because it is the only manual sedan Mercedes sells. There's absolutely nothing wrong if you purchased it for either reason, btw.
Third, our household income was about $300k per year when we purchased the W203 C230K coupe. We purchased it because we wanted a practical two door car with flexible cargo room, a manual transmission, either a convertible or very large sunroof, good fuel efficiency (to lessen our dependence on people who do not like us), and a full complement of safety equipment. This was the car that met our requirements, and we have been very pleased with it. Lack of income did not come into play, in other words.
I don't like the 204 coupe becuase it strikes me as a marketing effort not backed by real advancements in engineering, in the sense that MB simply tweaked a 203. The original 203 coupe was a cool car, IMHO, because it combined Mercedes' latest safety and chassis engineering into a compact, fun to drive, practical and safe car. The 204 is a better car, as is always the case when Mercedes introduces a new model, so it would have been cool to see those advancements incorporated into a new coupe.
My opinion is the problem Mercedes had with the coupe has to do with the fact that relative to its peers, i.e., other sporty hatchbacks, it was very expensive, and that because it was a small Benz (the W201 190 series also received significant criticism when it was introduced in the U.S. as the "cheap Benz"), there is a percentage of the public that buys cars for the brand and not the engineering, and is thus too insecure to own the coupe if that is the car that would otherwise serve their needs. When everyone leases, the difference in price between the coupe and the CLK probably was $100 a month or so, so get the more expensive car and impress the neighbors, right? That's the American way, after all.
I am not fun W204 coupe for some reason - maybe 4 doors for my age and this w204 are not built in Germany they are built Brazil and this coupe I think MB Authority set to produce line rapidly not too much think about design maybe thay had no time if you remember 2-3 years before MB authority said that Sportcoupe finished never produce again but Market want it.
So I give you some CLC reviews because this thrad beginner's pic is 2 years before
http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/Car...LC-350/232329/
http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/Car...-Sport/232450/
http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol...cle3812156.ece
http://carsguide.news.com.au/site/re...budget_beater/
http://www.channel4.com/4car/rt/mercedes/clc/21440/2
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/au...cedes_clc.html
http://www.carpoint.com.au/car-review/2928946.aspx
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carrevi...20_cdi_se.html
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And your posts passing judgment on the others' waste of time and screen space is a better use of your time?
Stop moralizing from your lofty perch. You're not my father, and as such you have no right or reason to tell me how to best utilize my time. Neither are you a moderator. So until a mod steps in and says, "This inane and asinine discussion is OVER," let us waste as we please. No one's forcing you to read this.
I must, however, admit that this thread is degenerating into a cold, hard, piece of poo, not unlike the ... yeah.
Stop moralizing from your lofty perch. You're not my father, and as such you have no right or reason to tell me how to best utilize my time. Neither are you a moderator. So until a mod steps in and says, "This inane and asinine discussion is OVER," let us waste as we please. No one's forcing you to read this.
I must, however, admit that this thread is degenerating into a cold, hard, piece of poo, not unlike the ... yeah.
Of course I am aware that I have no hard authority here, not being an admin or mod, but that should have nothing to do with appropriate behavior.
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