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*DIY* I've Unleashed a Cyclops!
Oooohhh... guess what I received in the mail...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3033/...89273d4c_o.jpg Yes... it's the Midcity Engineering MM204VK package that includes a backup camera! Delivery of this item to the West Coast took about a week, and was packed very well. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/...3584c9d9_o.jpg So I finally had time to do the install this weekend, and I must say... HOW COULD I HAVE GONE WITHOUT THIS??? :D For the price (and quality), this definitely beats out the Quickpark OEM system. So before I detail my DIY... here's the specs: 2008 C300 4MATIC with P1, P2, MM Packages. No TeleAid or Sirius subscriptions present @ time of install. Disclaimer: I'm sharing this DIY in the hopes that there may be more interest in doing your own DIYs. It is definitely a great learning experience, but I am in no way responsible for any consequences (positive or negative) as a result of you reading this DIY thread. If you choose to do this DIY yourself, you are solely responsible for whatever that happens. You have been warned. :y Kewl... now onwards! I found this document online re: removing the Trunk Lid trim: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3004/...5cffcdbb_o.jpg In colour, it looks like this: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3022/...4ec09440_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3008/...2d5caf65_o.jpg Regarding the Handle Strip (#7 in diagram), there's a couple of other screws that I had to remove before I yanked the sucker off the trunk (and I mean YANKED). I was careful not to scratch the surrounding paint, though... http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3171/...c69deda9_o.jpg Thereafter, I followed the Midcity Engineering video very closely (Thanks, Midcity Engineering!!!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_5Fkawy-_g As far as hiding the video cables, I was able to access the Head Unit from underneath the passenger side panel. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2276/...c7ed788b_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3252/...5dabff5f_o.jpg After feeding the wire under the passenger side sills through to the back, I proceeded to mount the camera. I had to cut a hole in the Handle Strip, right at the predetermined hole. The plastic's thick, so it was a PITA. I then fed the camera wires down the Trunk Lid and down towards the tail light. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/...5c85042e_o.jpg The last thing that needed to be done was to splice the proper wires so that the camera would have power. After spending hours and hours scouring for info, I was able to figure out the right ones. Brown = Ground Grey/Yellow = Reverse Light http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/...c32b43d1_o.jpg So... does it work? The moment of truth... http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3085/...bfbca1b1_o.jpg SWEET!!! After putting everything back together, I took some final pics. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3109/...f816a829_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3089/...83496e3a_o.jpg -fin- |
sweeeeeeet. wish i had mm.
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nicely done :y
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Very nice diy man:y
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Great DIY, even though I'm not nearly smart enough to do this. :y:y
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That's awesome. Do you engage it manually or is it somehow tied to putting it in reverse?
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Looks good :y Is it sealed well? Any chance of moisture getting in?
" You never walk alone " Liverpool |
That's awesome, I'm looking forward to adding this. Thanks for the detailed pictures, I'm sure I'll be referencing them when I do my install!
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Thanks for the props, guys. :D
The COMAND unit is pre-programmed to display the aux video input when you throw your shifter into [R]everse (but it's dormant since the car doesn't come with backup camera). You just have to activate the programming once after you've installed the camera, and that's it. Pretty ingenious. The instructions from Midcity Engineering include what needs to be done to activate the programming.:y
Originally Posted by Will617
(Post 2959869)
Looks good :y Is it sealed well? Any chance of moisture getting in?
" You never walk alone " Liverpool |
nice man :y
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saweeet
Does the mid-city engineering mod allow you to enter addresses while driving?
Sorry if this has been answered in other threads (did a search but was inconclusive, mostly about dvd's which i dont care about)... |
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I love love love this mod ... my car is on lease, but if I keep it, I'll do this. Damn, wish I could do this now!
Just awesome, congrats |
A great "How To" probably one of the best step by step instructions i've seen....THX
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Great Instructions! Just emailed them for a quote, should organize a group buy or something if there is alot of us interested in getting this. :y
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Originally Posted by Chino
(Post 2960561)
Great Instructions! Just emailed them for a quote, should organize a group buy or something if there is alot of us interested in getting this. :y
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Will this work on the "old" COMAND system? My 06 E class for example?
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Install instructions
<<The instructions from Midcity Engineering include what needs to be done to activate the programming>>
Thanks for all the work you went to. I don't have much excuse not to do this, now. Aside from prying open my wallet. I cringed while watching the video since the installer was so rough on the car. Bang crash bam etc. |
Originally Posted by Rick Hunter
(Post 2960159)
Thanks for the props, guys. :D
The COMAND unit is pre-programmed to display the aux video input when you throw your shifter into [R]everse (but it's dormant since the car doesn't come with backup camera). You just have to activate the programming once after you've installed the camera, and that's it. Pretty ingenious. The instructions from Midcity Engineering include what needs to be done to activate the programming.:y The individual camera components are sealed and rugged. The hole is relatively safe from moisture, although I'm sure you can blast it good with a pressure washer and get water in it. I don't perceive I'll be doing that though.:eek: |
nice.. wish i had stock navi to do this to..
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Originally Posted by micropower99
(Post 2960626)
+1
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your reverse cam setup dowsbnt come with VIM module right?
How much more to add the VIM module to this setup? |
Originally Posted by W211 BEAST
(Post 2960697)
Will this work on the "old" COMAND system? My 06 E class for example?
Originally Posted by RLE
(Post 2960865)
Thanks for all the work you went to. I don't have much excuse not to do this, now. Aside from prying open my wallet.
I cringed while watching the video since the installer was so rough on the car. Bang crash bam etc.
Originally Posted by delirium
(Post 2960950)
Does this mean that if you connected say, a Playstation to AUX video, it will display ur PS when u put it into reverse? Not that i would do that, but just wondering.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfF0HdezCCk
Originally Posted by rb23lb
(Post 2961188)
+1 I am in for sure on a group buy! let me know Yalll
Originally Posted by rb23lb
(Post 2961189)
your reverse cam setup doesn't come with VIM module right?
How much more to add the VIM module to this setup? Total cost to me was $750 (this kit IS a VIM kit + the Backup Camera) I was more interested in the backup camera function rather than the VIM function, though. VIM is the bonus :y |
Originally Posted by Rick Hunter
(Post 2961228)
:nix::nix::nix:
My pleasure. If you didn't ask for a writeup on that other thread, I probably wouldn't have posted my DIY. :D Now... go and get yers, mate. The possibilities are... well you know how that statement ends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfF0HdezCCk Dang... I should apply to work for Midcity Engineering... whaddya think?:D Or at the least ask them for some commission off of my unintended advertisement :naughty: Total cost to me was $750 (this kit IS a VIM kit + the Backup Camera) I was more interested in the backup camera function rather than the VIM function, though. VIM is the bonus :y lets get a group biy price for $500 out the door... i will contact a rep and see what they say... probably wanty like 50 p[eople for that low of a price... worth a shot though and a good starting point i think... will let you know what i hear |
thanks for all the pics and instruction you'v done for us!
im really intereasted in the stuff. so where did you buy it? or how can i get it too? thank you ! :) |
Originally Posted by rb23lb
(Post 2961254)
lets get a group biy price for $500 out the door... i will contact a rep and see what they say... probably wanty like 50 p[eople for that low of a price... worth a shot though and a good starting point i think... will let you know what i hear
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looks really good! nice install man!
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Rick here is the big question, does Lisa Hayes like it?
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You Are God :bow:
Too bad i don't have MM package :nix: |
Originally Posted by rb23lb
(Post 2961254)
lets get a group biy price for $500 out the door... i will contact a rep and see what they say... probably wanty like 50 p[eople for that low of a price... worth a shot though and a good starting point i think... will let you know what i hear
JT |
Originally Posted by Ron Jr
(Post 2961920)
Rick here is the big question, does Lisa Hayes like it?
...but Minmei likes it too :naughty: ... y'know... different area code and all. :rolf: |
Originally Posted by Rick Hunter
(Post 2962449)
I got the system FOR Lisa Hayes! :D
...but Minmei likes it too :naughty: ... y'know... different area code and all. :rolf: |
Damn
That is way clean. Congrats man. Amazing:y
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Originally Posted by Chino
(Post 2960561)
Great Instructions! Just emailed them for a quote, should organize a group buy or something if there is alot of us interested in getting this. :y
If we can get a group by going soon, I'll get in on it without hesitation. |
Originally Posted by Rick Hunter
(Post 2959560)
After feeding the wire under the passenger side sills through to the back, I proceeded to mount the camera. I had to cut a hole in the Handle Strip, right at the predetermined hole. The plastic's thick, so it was a PITA. I then fed the camera wires down the Trunk Lid and down towards the tail light. -fin- What tools did you use to cut the hole? And what did you use to seal it? Excellent writeup; but thanks to this I will be out of a few hundred $$ :) Thanks! |
Thanks for the time and effort you put into making this DYI. Im jealous now. :bow:
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Fantastic writeup. I'm in for a GB as well. And to Rick - I hope that they can throw you a free V1 kit or something for lighting up the interest.
Amazing quality - though maybe a bit heavy on the water marks ;) |
Originally Posted by Rick Hunter
(Post 2962449)
I got the system FOR Lisa Hayes! :D
...but Minmei likes it too :naughty: ... y'know... different area code and all. :rolf: Pic from AnimeNext08 I went with my daughter (and no that is not us). A great Max and Miria. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...8/DSC_4926.jpg |
Originally Posted by vistapoints
(Post 2963728)
Hey Rick,
What tools did you use to cut the hole? And what did you use to seal it? Excellent writeup; but thanks to this I will be out of a few hundred $$ :) Thanks! I investigated to see if I could have placed the camera closer to the center of the Handle Strip, but the predetermined location was still the easiest and most logical to access. I guess MB had designed the Handle Strip to allow for a backup camera option. I went el-cheapo and sealed up the inside with some silicone sealant. With the inner bracket and the tight space with which to mount your camera, I don't think there would be an appreciable amount water that could get into the space to cause a significant mess. I guess if you blasted it with your pressure hose... The camera itself is sealed and is weather resistant, so I'm not worried.
Originally Posted by peet
(Post 2964506)
Fantastic writeup. I'm in for a GB as well. And to Rick - I hope that they can throw you a free V1 kit or something for lighting up the interest.
Amazing quality - though maybe a bit heavy on the water marks ;) Thanks for the support! A V1 kit would be very nice... for my OTHER ride.
Originally Posted by Ron Jr
(Post 2965020)
So are you just a Macross fan or are you an Anime fan?
I was heavily into Animé in the late 80's & 90's, but have since moved away from it. No time to watch "cartoons" nowadays. I'm sure there's a lot of really good stuff I'm missing. |
Originally Posted by Rick Hunter
(Post 2965287)
In case anybody is wondering why the camera is mounted to a hole that's not in the center of the vehicle... it is because the predetermined location on the Handle Strip has an inner bracket that will hold your camera's mounting bracket. I neglected to take a picture from the inside to describe this better. Anyway, you can use your trusty Dremel (or drill) to take out the exterior plastic plate. Sand the edges as appropriate. Then mount your camera bracket inside.
I investigated to see if I could have placed the camera closer to the center of the Handle Strip, but the predetermined location was still the easiest and most logical to access. I guess MB had designed the Handle Strip to allow for a backup camera option. I went el-cheapo and sealed up the inside with some silicone sealant. With the inner bracket and the tight space with which to mount your camera, I don't think there would be an appreciable amount water that could get into the space to cause a significant mess. I guess if you blasted it with your pressure hose... The camera itself is sealed and is weather resistant, so I'm not worried. . Great job on the install by the way... |
I'm in for a group buy.
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+1 for the group buy if they can offer one.
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So anyone actually contact the vendor? heh.
IF not, I will and try to setup the GB. |
Originally Posted by peet
(Post 2975883)
So anyone actually contact the vendor? heh.
IF not, I will and try to setup the GB. Also, they sell a differnet verson of the VIM module that has an AUX input that accepts an external AV source. It costs a bit more. I am still trying to find out what kind of connector it will accept. |
I'm interested as well, thing for me is that I dont usually have my screen open, but guess i will just have to open it & then close it again.
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Look great! :y
I have the same kit and I'm about the install it. Can I ask you a question about wiring? The camera has 3 wires, Black, Red, Purple. I was told that I should twist the Black + Purple and connect it to a GROUND point. The Red should be tapped into the REVERSE light. Is this correct? |
I just put in a call regarding a group buy. They're mulling it over and should be getting back with my later today or tomorrow. I'll post back when I hear from them.
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Man, very very very nice mod!
congrats! |
Krytech - I have an appt with them tomorrow to discuss as well. As I am in the Chicago area it may help move this along if I pop over. Anyhow, more info shortly.
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Originally Posted by peet
(Post 2984891)
Krytech - I have an appt with them tomorrow to discuss as well. As I am in the Chicago area it may help move this along if I pop over. Anyhow, more info shortly.
Excellent. |
Quick update - I called today but they were in a meeting, we're rescheduled for Monday.
Good weekend everyone! |
Originally Posted by peet
(Post 2987016)
Quick update - I called today but they were in a meeting, we're rescheduled for Monday.
Good weekend everyone! any luck / update? thx! |
Dead issue?
Originally Posted by vistapoints
(Post 2996731)
Hey man,
any luck / update? thx! |
... and so... the torch was passed on to RLE :rolf:
Man... just order your kit already. :D I wanna race you going in reverse. :naughty: |
Man that is a great job on the MOD I just pick my 350 up yesterday without it now it look like my MISS would have like it in the car. where did you order this from the internet..if so can you put up the link to it thanks...:bow:
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LETS GET THIS GROUP BUY GOING ALREADY!!!!
What happened to all the interest? this is a freaking SWEET MOD!!!!
Who is down??? 1. rb23lb |
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Originally Posted by rb23lb
(Post 3055415)
What happened to all the interest? this is a freaking SWEET MOD!!!!
Who is down??? 1. rb23lb |
The backup kit
Originally Posted by Rick Hunter
(Post 3024847)
... and so... the torch was passed on to RLE :rolf:
Man... just order your kit already. :D I wanna race you going in reverse. :naughty: And then the fun begins. Several Saturdays ago I was lunching at Arnie's at the Edmonds Marina with some friends and, spotting a very well kept Mars Red C350, I walked toward it and noticed that it had, wait for it, a BACKUP CAMERA. No owner in sight. |
Sorry guys, I've been going back and forth and this probably won't happen. To make the group buy interesting Mid City would have to go below their dealer prices and that would make some unhappy dealers.
Never say never - but for now I think this may be a dead issue. |
Originally Posted by peet
(Post 3057447)
Sorry guys, I've been going back and forth and this probably won't happen. To make the group buy interesting Mid City would have to go below their dealer prices and that would make some unhappy dealers.
Never say never - but for now I think this may be a dead issue. I was talking with Dan about this today and we are going to try very hard to make this happen... Up until now we were busy setting up our forum sponsership but that is done which means its just a matter of getting a couple of things ready. Hold tight and we'll work on getting this going asap. |
Originally Posted by rob13572468
(Post 3057757)
I was talking with Dan about this today and we are going to try very hard to make this happen...
Up until now we were busy setting up our forum sponsership but that is done which means its just a matter of getting a couple of things ready. Hold tight and we'll work on getting this going asap. :word: Let us know mahn |
Originally Posted by rob13572468
(Post 3057757)
I was talking with Dan about this today and we are going to try very hard to make this happen...
Up until now we were busy setting up our forum sponsership but that is done which means its just a matter of getting a couple of things ready. Hold tight and we'll work on getting this going asap. |
Rick Hunter
I just got mine from TJ as well... Going to install it today... I took out all the stuff and the two (2) power leads for the camera are so close to the RCA jack? I went down to Radio Crap and picked up a RCA extension so that would be the only line I have to run to the front….. Did you run you wires above the headliner like TJ was saying or under the door sills? Great write up… |
Thanks for the compliment. :y
I ran the wire under the door sills (easier this way). Remember to remove the sills first. And yes... I had to get an RCA extension to run it to the front. |
i'm in for this GB. :y
if it ever happens. lol |
So am I understanding this correctly? You can put the camera inside the trunk so you dont see this little black box on the outside of it? Also, once you program it, will the camera go on automatically when you put the car in reverse? Is it the same with the Video in Motion?
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Oh and i'm in for the group buy if any goes down.
Thanks. |
Originally Posted by Magic9669
(Post 3073121)
Oh and i'm in for the group buy if any goes down.
Thanks. |
Centered camera install!
Rick…..
The suggestion to get the RCA extension worked out great… made it easier for me to install… By the way, I just did the install. I put the camera in the center most hole… please check it out…https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...57#post3074757 I referenced your page as well just so people can see another way of doing the install. I did not go over what you already discussed and by no means was trying to replace your post… just trying to add a supplement to yours. Thanks again! P.S. I should be doing the Factory Illuminated Door Sill install DIY this coming week when time permits… I thought it would just be some wire tap… BUT NO! It comes with a control unit and more fun stuff… |
Originally Posted by VaderSS
(Post 3074761)
Rick…..
The suggestion to get the RCA extension worked out great… made it easier for me to install… By the way, I just did the install. I put the camera in the center most hole… please check it out…https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...57#post3074757 I referenced your page as well just so people can see another way of doing the install. I did not go over what you already discussed and by no means was trying to replace your post… just trying to add a supplement to yours. Thanks again! P.S. I should be doing the Factory Illuminated Door Sill install DIY this coming week when time permits… I thought it would just be some wire tap… BUT NO! It comes with a control unit and more fun stuff… |
Tee hee hee...
... You guys just made my day! :y They really should sticky these DIYs, don't ya think?:) |
any news with this GB? :nix:
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Well I jsut got mind this weekend the back-up cam/in motion driving..hope to get a changes sometime this week to put them in....
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Originally Posted by rb23lb
(Post 2961254)
lets get a group biy price for $500 out the door... i will contact a rep and see what they say... probably wanty like 50 people for that low of a price... worth a shot though and a good starting point i think... will let you know what i hear
Thanks for the awesome DIY write up Rick :bow: Rich:D |
Originally Posted by rob13572468
(Post 3057757)
I was talking with Dan about this today and we are going to try very hard to make this happen...
Up until now we were busy setting up our forum sponsership but that is done which means its just a matter of getting a couple of things ready. Hold tight and we'll work on getting this going asap. So any news or did I miss any other thread in regards of thi sgroup buy ? Thanks guys |
I am SO Interested on this.
If you can get good deal on this, ~500to 550. I will get it ASAP. Hey ron, Is this VIM include the ablity to input letters while driving? |
Will the Kenwood CCD-2000 ( US VERSION ) work on a C-class European version navigation screen ?
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AFAIK, there is NO group buy floating around. For the price, it's definitely reasonable compared to the competition. It's also comparable in price to the Quickpark system (installed), but is superior due to the fact that you get to see what's behind you. For those on the fence... I'm glad I got it and I have no regrets about this mod.
I found the Kenwood CCD-200 Operating Manual online: http://manual.kenwood.com/files/B64-3673-00_00.pdf |
Originally Posted by Rick Hunter
(Post 3157299)
AFAIK, there is NO group buy floating around. For the price, it's definitely reasonable compared to the competition. It's also comparable in price to the Quickpark system (installed), but is superior due to the fact that you get to see what's behind you. For those on the fence... I'm glad I got it and I have no regrets about this mod.
I found the Kenwood CCD-200 Operating Manual online: http://manual.kenwood.com/files/B64-3673-00_00.pdf even cheaper if you don't need VIM. :D |
Originally Posted by white46
(Post 3157319)
+1
even cheaper if you don't need VIM. :D |
how do you feed the wire from the trunk, to to the front of the car? you say under the sills, how do you get under the sills? more details please!
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Originally Posted by cbcharlie
(Post 3352456)
how do you feed the wire from the trunk, to to the front of the car? you say under the sills, how do you get under the sills? more details please!
Also, where can I purchase a pre-assembled SMB (FAKRA) to female RCA cable? Anyone? https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...-connector.jpg Thx!!!!! |
Originally Posted by woedee
(Post 3427941)
+1
Also, where can I purchase a pre-assembled SMB (FAKRA) to female RCA cable? Anyone? https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...-connector.jpg Thx!!!!! |
Add me to the group buy. Send me a pm or post on here with the details, etc.
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Hi there, i am from middle east and i bought 2009 C63 from USA, is there anyone can help me how to install the middle east map to the Navigation?
Thank you |
Originally Posted by Ron Jr
(Post 3428026)
Midcity was selling these at around 20.00 USD maybe a bit more. As far as getting the video cable from the trunk to the cabin that is the hardest part of this install. I went through the passanger side and fed a snake between the rear seat back and the side. It took a few tries but there is a cable run there then just tuck it under the door sills.
Thanks Ron Jr! I placed the order last week wednesday (it was $22 PLUS $15 shipping!?!?!?!). For the shipping price I paid, I would have expected for the (I presume less than a couple oz. in weight) cable to have arrived already; still waiting as of this message. Needless to say, shipping rates was a rip!!!!!!!!!:X |
Thats a crazy amount for shipping a cable. I shipped out a Breitling Steelfish last week (traded for a Sinn 856) and next day with 2000.00USD insurance came to a little over 20.00. And I know the Breitling with it's packageing weighs a hell of a lot more than a cable.
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Originally Posted by woedee
(Post 3440445)
Thanks Ron Jr! I placed the order last week wednesday (it was $22 PLUS $15 shipping!?!?!?!). For the shipping price I paid, I would have expected for the (I presume less than a couple oz. in weight) cable to have arrived already; still waiting as of this message. Needless to say, shipping rates was a rip!!!!!!!!!:X
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Where did you get your grill?
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Done! :)
Thanks to this DIY and all help from you guys :)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2651/...4f552c9f_o.jpg |
Sweeet. Another happy modder.
I always get a nice warm fuzzy feeling inside when I see successes like this come out from the DIY. :y Gotta clean up your garage though, mate. :D |
Originally Posted by id64
(Post 3673750)
Thanks to this DIY and all help from you guys :)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2651/...4f552c9f_o.jpg |
Originally Posted by Rick Hunter
(Post 3675362)
Sweeet. Another happy modder.
I always get a nice warm fuzzy feeling inside when I see successes like this come out from the DIY. :y Gotta clean up your garage though, mate. :D |
Not to be a party popper but why would you want a rear camera installed in a compact sedan????? Maybe for a Yukon or Escalate may be worth even a ML but a C class??? Can anyone explain it
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Originally Posted by giovapal
(Post 3678544)
Not to be a party popper but why would you want a rear camera installed in a compact sedan????? Maybe for a Yukon or Escalate may be worth even a ML but a C class??? Can anyone explain it
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Originally Posted by Rick Hunter
(Post 2961228)
:nix::nix::nix:
Total cost to me was $750 (this kit IS a VIM kit + the Backup Camera) I was more interested in the backup camera function rather than the VIM function, though. VIM is the bonus :y |
Cheaper camera?
Originally Posted by giovapal
(Post 3679679)
You can get that option for $450 usd at any MB dealer + labor much much cheaper and better than aftermarket. Not to mention the compatibility!!!!!
Your statement regarding "cheaper and better" needs an explanation. And what exactly is the compatibility issue? |
Hmmm... sounds like giovapal didn't really do his research before poo-pooing on the thread.
The camera itself is of the same quality as the ones used as OEM from car manufacturers. So for MB to be charging $450 for just the camera... they're making a lot of profit. Add to it the labor costs and you'll see how close to the price I paid for the kit WITH VIM. Of course, as I was an early adopter, I overpaid for the kit myself. But it all works out in the end just the same. Anyone who says that OEM is cheaper and better than aftermarket parts (without doing proper research) usually don't know what they're talking about. And as far as why we install cameras in the rear of compact cars... well, that's because we CAN. Don't knock it til you've tried it. :y |
After having my first backup camera in our lexus, we vowed to never buy a car without a backup camera. Well here Im stuck with a C class without one. lol. Looking to do this mod, just dont know where to install it :nix:
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Originally Posted by Rick Hunter
(Post 3679950)
And as far as why we install cameras in the rear of compact cars... well, that's because we CAN. Don't knock it til you've tried it. :y |
Hey... that's a good idea. :naughty: I'll leave it up to you to write up the DIY for us.
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Originally Posted by giovapal
(Post 3680815)
That's a really smart answer right there. I guess I'm going to install offroad fog lights on top of my Benz roof because I CAN too!!!! LMAO
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Originally Posted by Rick Hunter
(Post 2959560)
Oooohhh... guess what I received in the mail...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3033/...89273d4c_o.jpg Yes... it's the Midcity Engineering MM204VK package that includes a backup camera! Delivery of this item to the West Coast took about a week, and was packed very well. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/...3584c9d9_o.jpg So I finally had time to do the install this weekend, and I must say... HOW COULD I HAVE GONE WITHOUT THIS??? :D For the price (and quality), this definitely beats out the Quickpark OEM system. So before I detail my DIY... here's the specs: 2008 C300 4MATIC with P1, P2, MM Packages. No TeleAid or Sirius subscriptions present @ time of install. Disclaimer: I'm sharing this DIY in the hopes that there may be more interest in doing your own DIYs. It is definitely a great learning experience, but I am in no way responsible for any consequences (positive or negative) as a result of you reading this DIY thread. If you choose to do this DIY yourself, you are solely responsible for whatever that happens. You have been warned. :y Kewl... now onwards! I found this document online re: removing the Trunk Lid trim: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3004/...5cffcdbb_o.jpg In colour, it looks like this: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3022/...4ec09440_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3008/...2d5caf65_o.jpg Regarding the Handle Strip (#7 in diagram), there's a couple of other screws that I had to remove before I yanked the sucker off the trunk (and I mean YANKED). I was careful not to scratch the surrounding paint, though... http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3171/...c69deda9_o.jpg Thereafter, I followed the Midcity Engineering video very closely (Thanks, Midcity Engineering!!!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_5Fkawy-_g As far as hiding the video cables, I was able to access the Head Unit from underneath the passenger side panel. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2276/...c7ed788b_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3252/...5dabff5f_o.jpg After feeding the wire under the passenger side sills through to the back, I proceeded to mount the camera. I had to cut a hole in the Handle Strip, right at the predetermined hole. The plastic's thick, so it was a PITA. I then fed the camera wires down the Trunk Lid and down towards the tail light. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/...5c85042e_o.jpg The last thing that needed to be done was to splice the proper wires so that the camera would have power. After spending hours and hours scouring for info, I was able to figure out the right ones. Brown = Ground Grey/Yellow = Reverse Light http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/...c32b43d1_o.jpg So... does it work? The moment of truth... http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3085/...bfbca1b1_o.jpg SWEET!!! After putting everything back together, I took some final pics. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3109/...f816a829_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3089/...83496e3a_o.jpg -fin- |
You don't need the mid-city VIM module to install a backup cam.
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Originally Posted by Ron Jr
(Post 3894300)
You don't need the mid-city VIM module to install a backup cam.
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Hi,
I want to install a back up camera and i dind't understand what do you need for this job....does it work with the Kenwood CCD-2000 and a FAKRA - RCA cable?! Or do i need the "thing" from the midcity an that large connector from your first photo?! Thanks |
Get the FAKRA-RCA cable from Mid engineering. Theirs is easier to work with than the ones on ebay..
I used Pioneer ND-BC4 instead of the Kenwood. That's all you need. |
exdes, was there a particular reason why you went with a Pioneer instead of the Kenwood?
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Just curious, and not sure if it has been mentioned before, but aren't there OEM parts available now that U.S. cars are shipping with the back-up camera?
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Originally Posted by kaku
(Post 4041146)
exdes, was there a particular reason why you went with a Pioneer instead of the Kenwood?
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I just installed a Comand in my car successfully and will do the back-up cam next. I looked at all 3 DIYs which are great but have one final question? What is the easiest place to connect the power wire at?
Thanks, L |
Either backup lignt.
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my dealer asked me for $1500.....crazy dudes. today i just got the fakra cable from midcity..... so i guess all i need is to pick up a camera, run the cable from the trunk to the nav and plug it in.... is it this easy? i think i also gonna need some sore of programing, is that right?
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aren't those for vans? I usually just look behind me lol
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Originally Posted by mikekuriger
(Post 4070278)
aren't those for vans? I usually just look behind me lol
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I was just cited for having the camera installed. I had a chance to pick up a leftover 1936 camera with sound and lighting system from the then RKO and installed. Works like a charm, but they tell me that it is a danger for those behind due to the 1000 W spots. I'm looking to see if I can replace them with LEDs.
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I noticed that the only wire that had to be connected was that from the ground and the reverse tail light... Is there any other wires needed to power the camera unit itself, or all the power is just from the reverse tail light?
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Originally Posted by rst63
(Post 4091253)
I noticed that the only wire that had to be connected was that from the ground and the reverse tail light... Is there any other wires needed to power the camera unit itself, or all the power is just from the reverse tail light?
There is the ACC wire that is not shown here that must also be connected. |
Question guys.... so.... i can just get the Kenwood Ccd-2000?? and follow these instructions and i can get my backup camera and no need for Mid-city product?? if so.. wat is Mid-city selling their module for?? and how much this going to cost?
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I really want to do this too.
but watching this scared me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_5Fkawy-_g |
Originally Posted by _c350_
(Post 4168731)
I really want to do this too.
but watching this scared me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_5Fkawy-_g |
Originally Posted by _c350_
(Post 4168731)
I really want to do this too.
but watching this scared me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_5Fkawy-_g |
You don't need the mid-city module unless you want to watch DVDs while you drive or play with your navi.
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do you need to connect a wire from your MM to the camera at the back?
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Originally Posted by _c350_
(Post 4169505)
do you need to connect a wire from your MM to the camera at the back?
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Originally Posted by Ron Jr
(Post 4169039)
Not scary, one of the easiest OEM stereos I have ever taken out.dadangman should run around 200.00 USD if you DIY it.
cool, so 200 bucks for Video in motion and back up camera? and i just email up Mid-city if i want it right? thanks ron!! :) |
Originally Posted by dadangman
(Post 4169923)
cool, so 200 bucks for Video in motion and back up camera? and i just email up Mid-city if i want it right? thanks ron!! :)
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last time i checked (several months ago), it was ~$700. but they include a "full" kit with camera, vim, and cables.
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Got my VIM and Reverse Camera Kit from MidCity Engineering. Included the Kenwood CMOS 300. Starting to install it today. So Far got the VIM In and works Great. Now got to run the wires back for the Reverse Camera
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2010 C300 ACC Power for Reverse Camera
I got my VIM & Reverse Camera Kit from Mid City. VIM installed and works great, now for the Reverse Camera
Kenwood CMOS-200 Power Wiring Question: 1) You know how you have 2 power sources Needles. A) Reverse Light B) Accessory Power. After i run everything to the back, where do i run the Accessory Power to? Instruction says to run the power to the Engine Key, but it seems that most people are running the power from somewhere else? Where do i run the power to because it has to be a NON CONSTANT Power Source. Any help or info would be much appreciated. Thanks.. |
Originally Posted by ss4fusion
(Post 4195145)
I got my VIM & Reverse Camera Kit from Mid City. VIM installed and works great, now for the Reverse Camera
Kenwood CMOS-200 Power Wiring Question: 1) You know how you have 2 power sources Needles. A) Reverse Light B) Accessory Power. After i run everything to the back, where do i run the Accessory Power to? Instruction says to run the power to the Engine Key, but it seems that most people are running the power from somewhere else? Where do i run the power to because it has to be a NON CONSTANT Power Source. Any help or info would be much appreciated. Thanks.. If you are talking about power for the Camera you need to run it to reverse light because thats the only time you need it on. |
Originally Posted by jon3sh
(Post 4195416)
If you are talking about power for the Camera you need to run it to reverse light because thats the only time you need it on.
Thank you for the for the help, but there are 2 power wires. 1) that connects to the Reverse Lights, 2) one is suppose to connect to the ignition power or something that does not have Constant Power. Does anyone have any advise on where to connect that wire to? |
Originally Posted by ss4fusion
(Post 4195012)
Got my VIM and Reverse Camera Kit from MidCity Engineering. Included the Kenwood CMOS 300. Starting to install it today. So Far got the VIM In and works Great. Now got to run the wires back for the Reverse Camera
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another great installation guide
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FAKRA Cable, IPOD connector
What kind of FAKRA-to-female RCA cable do I need? Specifically:
1. Is it type A or E? 2. Is it male or female FAKRA? (e.g, jack or plug) 3. Does it matter if it's right angle or straight? I'm going to try to have one made for me and I need to know the specs. Also, not sure if it makes a difference, but I have the Ipod kit in the car. Does that make any difference in terms of available jacks in the back of MM unit for the camera line? If anyone can shed light on this, i'd appreciate it... thanks! |
Originally Posted by kw00k
(Post 4420034)
What kind of FAKRA-to-female RCA cable do I need? Specifically:
1. Is it type A or E? 2. Is it male or female FAKRA? (e.g, jack or plug) 3. Does it matter if it's right angle or straight? I'm going to try to have one made for me and I need to know the specs. Also, not sure if it makes a difference, but I have the Ipod kit in the car. Does that make any difference in terms of available jacks in the back of MM unit for the camera line? If anyone can shed light on this, i'd appreciate it... thanks! |
Originally Posted by waiszeto
(Post 4420190)
Just get the cable from mid city, it will save u lots of time! And it only like $30!
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Hi
Does anyone have instructions on how to run the cable from the passanger seat to the boot? I've gone as far as taking the head unit apart and the cable is ran to the rear bottom sills, but I can't fingure out how to remove the trim by the rear to the boot? Any ideas? Thanks |
Originally Posted by smpatel
(Post 4502278)
Hi
Does anyone have instructions on how to run the cable from the passanger seat to the boot? I've gone as far as taking the head unit apart and the cable is ran to the rear bottom sills, but I can't fingure out how to remove the trim by the rear to the boot? Any ideas? Thanks You have to almost take apart the left rear or right rear of the trunk (depending on which side you're running the wires). I ran it via the passenger side and diassembled the whole trunk to route and store the cables neatly. Those little tabs that hold the carpeting in place needs to be removed. |
which camera???
Well, I finally got around to going into the engineering menu and telling my 2008 C350 that a camera was installed. I was rewarded by the appropriate screen saying "Check Entire Surroundings" when in reverse. Yeah!
But, I haven't purchased a camera yet. I see that some of you have had good luck with the Kenwood CCD 2000, but that camera has been discontinued. Does anyone have a good suggestion for a camera? My installer suggested one which actually replaces one of the license plate lights, but I haven't been able to find it on-line. Any ideas??? |
Originally Posted by tunafish
(Post 4529349)
Well, I finally got around to going into the engineering menu and telling my 2008 C350 that a camera was installed. I was rewarded by the appropriate screen saying "Check Entire Surroundings" when in reverse. Yeah!
But, I haven't purchased a camera yet. I see that some of you have had good luck with the Kenwood CCD 2000, but that camera has been discontinued. Does anyone have a good suggestion for a camera? My installer suggested one which actually replaces one of the license plate lights, but I haven't been able to find it on-line. Any ideas??? The kenwood CMOS-200 is actually the replacement for the CCD-2000. You don't have to use the license plate lights, because there is actually predrilled holes for the camera. |
Which camera (con't)????
Originally Posted by I am Jeff
(Post 4529534)
The kenwood CMOS-200 is actually the replacement for the CCD-2000. You don't have to use the license plate lights, because there is actually predrilled holes for the camera.
Thanks, I just wanted to confirm with someone who has installed the CMOS-200 to be sure that left and right aren't reversed, or something goofy like that. (ps. I also have a steel gray metallic, but about half as many horses as you have!) |
Originally Posted by tunafish
(Post 4529606)
Thanks, I just wanted to confirm with someone who has installed the CMOS-200 to be sure that left and right aren't reversed, or something goofy like that.
(ps. I also have a steel gray metallic, but about half as many horses as you have!) Don't feel bad. I had a 2009 Steel Grey Metallic C350, before I traded it for this 2010 C63. Same options, same color. Except for the pano option that the C63 doesn't offer. :naughty: The factory rear camera location is on the passenger side of the car. That's the side I routed my cables. |
Originally Posted by kw00k
(Post 4420034)
What kind of FAKRA-to-female RCA cable do I need? Specifically:
1. Is it type A or E? It type E, just go to Ebay & search for "Fakra Green" 2. Is it male or female FAKRA? (e.g, jack or plug) Female 3. Does it matter if it's right angle or straight? Both should works, Get the angle if possible ... I'm going to try to have one made for me and I need to know the specs. Also, not sure if it makes a difference, but I have the Ipod kit in the car. Does that make any difference in terms of available jacks in the back of MM unit for the camera line? If anyone can shed light on this, i'd appreciate it... thanks! Remember when you purchase the camera, you must buy the NTSC camera (not PAL). |
Newbie to the forum but want to thank everyone for this DIY and everyone's contribution. Was thinking about adding on the rearview camera, but also wanted to ask if having the factory ipod kit complicates it? Don't want any surprises going in. Has anyone done this setup who had the factory ipod kit, and if so, was it any different? Thanks.
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This is a fantastic thread...I've been looking for something exactly like this and have contacted Midcity for a quote on the kit.
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The only addition we might add to this thread is this.... I am an automotive video engineer and CMOS cameras STINK. They will not work in low light, cold weather or hot weather. ALWAYS get a CCD camera.... always. The reason CMOS cameras are so cheap is "you get what you pay for"
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Originally Posted by Zulfiqar786
(Post 4556780)
Newbie to the forum but want to thank everyone for this DIY and everyone's contribution. Was thinking about adding on the rearview camera, but also wanted to ask if having the factory ipod kit complicates it? Don't want any surprises going in. Has anyone done this setup who had the factory ipod kit, and if so, was it any different? Thanks.
This has nothing to do with the factory Ipod kit. |
Originally Posted by Cartronics
(Post 4557028)
The only addition we might add to this thread is this.... I am an automotive video engineer and CMOS cameras STINK. They will not work in low light, cold weather or hot weather. ALWAYS get a CCD camera.... always. The reason CMOS cameras are so cheap is "you get what you pay for"
I had the old CCD-2000 on the old car installed, but I also had a CMOS camera that I bought but never installed for a friend. It cost the same as my CCD-2000. What's different about the CMOS camera? Last I checked, the CMOS one had better specs. |
Originally Posted by Zulfiqar786
(Post 4556780)
Newbie to the forum but want to thank everyone for this DIY and everyone's contribution. Was thinking about adding on the rearview camera, but also wanted to ask if having the factory ipod kit complicates it? Don't want any surprises going in. Has anyone done this setup who had the factory ipod kit, and if so, was it any different? Thanks.
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Thanks I_AM_JEFF and Tunafish.
From just reading all the threads on this topic it seemed that having the factory ipod unit made the install slightly more difficult. I called up MidCity today and they said that having the factory ipod meant you had to plug in everything a foot farther, but I didnt really understand what he meant. How exactly was the install different Tunafish? One a side topic, the MidCity people were asking $37 for the Fakra to RCA connector (22 + 15 shipping). Is that what others were quoted and is there a reliable cheaper alternative (not making it urself)?! Thanks again. |
Originally Posted by Zulfiqar786
(Post 4557300)
Thanks I_AM_JEFF and Tunafish.
From just reading all the threads on this topic it seemed that having the factory ipod unit made the install slightly more difficult. I called up MidCity today and they said that having the factory ipod meant you had to plug in everything a foot farther, but I didnt really understand what he meant. How exactly was the install different Tunafish? One a side topic, the MidCity people were asking $37 for the Fakra to RCA connector (22 + 15 shipping). Is that what others were quoted and is there a reliable cheaper alternative (not making it urself)?! Thanks again. You're welcome! The Fakra to RCA connector that Mid-City is of high quality and fits perfectly. That's my experience with their product. I had originally purchased a EBAY Fakra to RCA connector and it didn't fit as well. I paid a little less but that was a while back, so 37 dollars sounds reasonable. |
How did you get the cable from the back of the camera from outside the trunk to inside? I cant see a hole that would take it other than maybe taking the registration light cover out which I dont really want to do... Can anyone help please?
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robmacca, you have to drill a hole through that plastic strip that you remove and feed the wire through it.
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Originally Posted by Ben'sBenz
(Post 4592475)
robmacca, you have to drill a hole through that plastic strip that you remove and feed the wire through it.
Its dark here now anyway so I will have another shot tomorrow. |
ahh man I really want to do this but i am scared to screw this up......anyone that did this around MA that can help me out?
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Or in NJ.
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I recently did mine last weekend. I basically ordered a FARKA cable from Mid-City ($22 + $10 shipping) and a Sony rear view camera from amazon. Followed the instructions from this DIY and mounted the OEM way. Didn't want to mount it in the middle b/c it would require taking out one of those plastic clips AND also it would be a pain to put the cable back into the trunk. The result came out fine and I got what I wanted. So special thanks goes to Rick Hunter and everyone on this forum for the help! :y
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come to hoboken and help me out gary!
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aww...no one near by boston ....
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Final comment on backup camera
I had an car stereo guy install a backup camera in my 2008 C350 (sorry, I forgot the camera brand) a month or so ago. It was a fair amount of work, and he charged me for 3 hrs labor (which seemed reasonable). I had changed the engineering menu to recognize the camera (thanks to this forum:)). The camera was powered from the backup lights. The only problem was that, when the car was cold, sometimes the video would not synch vertically. I could fix this by shifting out of Reverse and then back to Reverse, but this was a pain. I guessed the problem was a timing problem caused by using the backup lights to power the camera. I had the stereo guy change the wiring (no charge) to use a power source for the camera which was active when the ignition was on. This fixed the problem. The backup camera has been great. My thanks to this forum. :D
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how much did the car stereo guy charge you? what was the total cost?
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Originally Posted by bguybrad
(Post 4641780)
how much did the car stereo guy charge you? what was the total cost?
camera $125 cables $25 tax $25 about $400 total |
This is simply awful... BEWARE!
About a month after I installed a backup camera, my tire pressure monitor started failing intermittently. I took the car to the dealer and after working on it for a week, they decided the reason the tire pressure monitor did not work was the after market backup camera.
I think these guys are nuts! :crazy: |
As a technician, that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard (unless it was powered from something in the rear of the car and not run to fuse aux power)
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Hey guys i bought a CCD camera from EBay, those really cheap ones (40 bucks), i'll let you guys know after i install it to see if it works, if it works just as well there is no reason to pay more lol
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How do you guys order directly from Midcity? I don't see anything on their site, don't they only provide lists of authorized dealers or something?
Does anyone know a a car stereo guy in south Florida that can do the install for me? |
I don't think it is even possible to MAKE a CCD camera for $40 (we contract them in large quantities) and just the sensor alone is over $40 for a good quality one (let alone the support electronics).
I would think you are getting something used or actually CMOS that is intentionally mislabeled (we were just sent one for eval today that was a cmos labeled as ccd) |
Originally Posted by exdes
(Post 4040728)
Get the FAKRA-RCA cable from Mid engineering. Theirs is easier to work with than the ones on ebay..
I used Pioneer ND-BC4 instead of the Kenwood. That's all you need. |
We mean no disrespect, but look at some research online about CMOS cameras. They are TERRIBLE for automotive use. We have tested just about ever camera offered to us, and they simply do not last and are just plain bad. CCD cameras cost more for a reason, and are the only camera that should be used in an automotive application. There is a reason NOT ONE SINGLE CAR MANUFACTURER uses CMOS cameras in their cars when put in at the factory.
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Need Help With Back Camera - SRVC, DRVM, DRVM-PSC
I have a late 2009 C300 with Command and Multi-Media and can not get the Engineering Menu to enable the backup camera. When i go into the menu and pick 7, 1.7, #18 is for the backup camera - I have 3 choices - non of them enable, The 3 choices are SRVC, DRVM, and DRVM-PSC. Which one do I choose. I tried all 3 and the last one (DRVM-PSC) worked one time and now it no longer does.
Also, can someone tell me if you need to separately turn on the AUX Video Input (Option 7.7.4) It was off, i have turned it on, but either way I still donut get the backup camera screen. Anyone know what I should do and if it is possible....like I said, I got the screen one time but can't get it again. |
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Originally Posted by paladiumonblack
(Post 4767036)
I have a late 2009 C300 with Command and Multi-Media and can not get the Engineering Menu to enable the backup camera. When i go into the menu and pick 7, 1.7, #18 is for the backup camera - I have 3 choices - non of them enable, The 3 choices are SRVC, DRVM, and DRVM-PSC. Which one do I choose. I tried all 3 and the last one (DRVM-PSC) worked one time and now it no longer does.
Also, can someone tell me if you need to separately turn on the AUX Video Input (Option 7.7.4) It was off, i have turned it on, but either way I still donut get the backup camera screen. Anyone know what I should do and if it is possible....like I said, I got the screen one time but can't get it again. Hope this works for you. |
Originally Posted by thesleepydog
(Post 4767091)
Select one of the options, I thought it was the first one "SRVC", and then exit back to the main menu and then turn the car off, remove the keys and lock. After about 15-20 mins - go back to the car, unlock, start and move reverse gear - this should now work. The Command APS needs to restart after clearing the settings in its memory for the new option to take effect.
Hope this works for you. |
My New Back-up Camera - Pioneer CCD ND-BC4
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Alright so I finished the install of my Pioneer CCD camera ND-BC4. I went with CCD vs CMOS because the temp specs and reliability are much better with CCD. I got the camera on e-bay for $144.
I used the more centered location and mounted at least half the camera inside the trim. You can see from the last two pictures the camera is hardly visible at all. In the final position you it see a little of the trim at the top and bumper on the bottom (see shot of the screen). It works well for seeing the things you would way when backing up. Also, I don't like tapping or splicing wires so I power my unit from the fuse bad in the trunk by using ad add a fuse (see pics)- also, I stuck the small power supply to the top of truck area behind the rear passenger seat using the velcro that came with the camera. Fun little project, nice addition to the C! |
Help with Back-up Camera and TPMS
Read the post directly above to see what I installed and how. So today, after driving 30 miles or so yesterday with no issues, the TPMS alarm goes off. Tire pressure is fine, but yellow light won't off. I read another post where dealer told someone their TPMS alarm was cause by back-up camera never saw a resolution of the problem. Anybody else have this issue....my camera is powered all the time, i know most folks have power only when backup lights are on. HELP - cause I love the camera!
Update - I was able to reset the TPMS system through the steering wheel controls, but what about the back-up camera could set it off in the first place. We will se if it goes off again in a another few days. |
Unless you have tapped power to the camera, and it is a CCD camera, to some other circuit besides auxiliary power, there is no way the camera has any effect on TPMS. You may have a faulty sensor or battery issue in the sensor (still faulty).
However, CMOS cameras, especially low cost units can emit radio frequencies that will interfere with any low power signal. Including TPMS, bluetooth (although the noise is not generally that high frequency as 2.4Ghz, we did test one CMOS camera from Kenwood that almost killed all bluetooth), keyless go, etc. Your camera should have power all the time to avoid sync issues when switching to reverse. Hopefully you installed a CCD camera and not CMOS. CMOS can not tolerate constant power, and can emit radio waves that create problems. Try disconnecting power to the camera, reset the TPMS and see if the problem is resolved. Your TPMS will hard error and give a constant error if the error buffer builds up from an inability to communicate with a sensor. That hard error will need to be cleared. Hope all this makes sense. I have been working for 16 hours already today, and forgive me if this is too convoluted. I will be happy to help resolve tomorrow. |
Originally Posted by Cartronics
(Post 4769324)
Unless you have tapped power to the camera, and it is a CCD camera, to some other circuit besides auxiliary power, there is no way the camera has any effect on TPMS. You may have a faulty sensor or battery issue in the sensor (still faulty).
However, CMOS cameras, especially low cost units can emit radio frequencies that will interfere with any low power signal. Including TPMS, bluetooth (although the noise is not generally that high frequency as 2.4Ghz, we did test one CMOS camera from Kenwood that almost killed all bluetooth), keyless go, etc. Your camera should have power all the time to avoid sync issues when switching to reverse. Hopefully you installed a CCD camera and not CMOS. CMOS can not tolerate constant power, and can emit radio waves that create problems. Try disconnecting power to the camera, reset the TPMS and see if the problem is resolved. Your TPMS will hard error and give a constant error if the error buffer builds up from an inability to communicate with a sensor. That hard error will need to be cleared. Hope all this makes sense. I have been working for 16 hours already today, and forgive me if this is too convoluted. I will be happy to help resolve tomorrow. I did read on a Titan forum where there can be EMI interference with the TPMS from a Backup camera - if i understand your comments, this might be true for CMOS cameras, but true for CCDs? Hopefully my alarm going off was just a coincidence. Thanks for your help! |
The furthest radiation I have measured from a CCD is about 6", and even then in frequencies that would not matter. Unless the camera is crazy defective (which should be shown on the image from it), it would not be the camera or circuit you went to. Although, for full disclosure, I have not tested that particular camera. Actually for even further disclosure, we quit testing cameras about a year ago when we found the perfect units. But I digress, I seriously doubt it is the camera.
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Originally Posted by Cartronics
(Post 4769467)
we quit testing cameras about a year ago when we found the perfect units.
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We ended up on the same unit installed by Porsche, MB, Audi, VW, Lambo, Land Rover an a couple others. We eventually found their OEM supplier and negotiated a contract. The only unit that came close was a Sony, but it requires a 3/4 inch hole in the car.... Which we did not want.
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Originally Posted by paladiumonblack
(Post 4770571)
Which unit did you settle on? was it the Kenwood CCD?? If so, what do you recommend now that it is out of production??
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Originally Posted by paladiumonblack
(Post 4770571)
Which unit did you settle on? was it the Kenwood CCD?? If so, what do you recommend now that it is out of production??
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I have installed also a Kenwood CMOS-200 and it works great. I've tried first with a no-name cheap camera but it turned out to be PAL only so I had to order the CMOS-200.
Make sure that your camera is NTSC before buy it :) |
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I took some additional pictures of my install. Before I started, I wanted to see how to run the cable under the door sills but never found any online. So, this is my contribution to the thread. Thanks to all the owners that put time into creating these DIY's for us to share! The camera I used was an el-cheapo from eBay. But what I like about it is that it's small and sits flush to the plastic trim piece. After installation, you can barely see it unless you are looking for it.
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Originally Posted by Ben'sBenz
(Post 4792546)
I took some additional pictures of my install. Before I started, I wanted to see how to run the cable under the door sills but never found any online. So, this is my contribution to the thread. Thanks to all the owners that put time into creating these DIY's for us to share! The camera I used was an el-cheapo from eBay. But what I like about it is that it's small and sits flush to the plastic trim piece. After installation, you can barely see it unless you are looking for it.
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nice job and writeup...u da man!!
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Originally Posted by robyc1982
(Post 4785869)
I have installed also a Kenwood CMOS-200 and it works great. I've tried first with a no-name cheap camera but it turned out to be PAL only so I had to order the CMOS-200.
Make sure that your camera is NTSC before buy it :) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=360402692945 Sorry I am new to this forum and could not figure out how to send personal messages. Thanks in advance. |
im in for a group purchase
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I might be as well if the price is right! We are talking about the CMOS-200 right?
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Try
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Anyone try this one? http://www.crutchfield.com/p_074RVC1...e-RVC1150.html
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nice...good writeup
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Hi all!! I have read all DIY about installing a rear view camera. I have for now just one question.
Do i order a PAL or NTSC camera?? Does it make any diference? Does it affect with DVD movies?! I live in Portugal and the car (and the comand unit) is also european. :) Thanks!!! |
Originally Posted by psaldanha
(Post 5431552)
Hi all!! I have read all DIY about installing a rear view camera. I have for now just one question.
Do i order a PAL or NTSC camera?? Does it make any diference? Does it affect with DVD movies?! I live in Portugal and the car (and the comand unit) is also european. :) Thanks!!! Hope this helps. On another note is that you can change your system from PAL to NTSC but I wouldn't recommend it. |
Thanks for your help!! :)
I am aware that i can change that setting. My question is if the rear view camera input signal must be PAL or NTSC (dont know if that setting will affect rear view cameras or just DVDs). :) |
Hi again.
So i started to install the rear view camera. Before i put back everything, i tested if the camera works and a problem came out... When i engage rear, the image in the screen flickers and is black and white. I have bought a PAL CCD rear view camera, the Comand is set to PAL in DVD option, rear view camera is in SRVC and my car is original for Germany. The problem is because of PAL / NTSC? Does it means that the Comand only acepts NTSC rear view cameras?! I have tested the camera (PAL) in a television (PAL) and it gives a nice image. Please help.. Thanks! |
Find another way to tap a power to the camera, don't tap it from rear tailing light. Use rear cigarette or tap by using Add-a-fuse from rear sam (yes, rear cigarette socket don't use another socket).
Then blurring camera picture will gone. |
Originally Posted by psaldanha
(Post 5468995)
Hi again.
So i started to install the rear view camera. Before i put back everything, i tested if the camera works and a problem came out... When i engage rear, the image in the screen flickers and is black and white. I have bought a PAL CCD rear view camera, the Comand is set to PAL in DVD option, rear view camera is in SRVC and my car is original for Germany. The problem is because of PAL / NTSC? Does it means that the Comand only acepts NTSC rear view cameras?! I have tested the camera (PAL) in a television (PAL) and it gives a nice image. Please help.. Thanks! PAL camera, not working, shaking picture, the car is also euro model and a DVD is in PAL... so i need NTSC camera to work fine? :smash: |
I can't see the images on this forum page. Is there another page I can get these instructions? I really need this help here.
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Originally Posted by zionoliver
(Post 5685018)
I can't see the images on this forum page. Is there another page I can get these instructions? I really need this help here.
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How to fix synch issues from dirty power
Originally Posted by Cartronics
(Post 4769324)
Your camera should have power all the time to avoid sync issues when switching to reverse. Hopefully you installed a CCD camera and not CMOS. CMOS can not tolerate constant power, and can emit radio waves that create problems. Try disconnecting power to the camera, reset the TPMS and see if the problem is resolved. Your TPMS will hard error and give a constant error if the error buffer builds up from an inability to communicate with a sensor. That hard error will need to be cleared.
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Cannot see the images on the writeup so this writeup has become useless. Can someone restore the images?
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Originally Posted by Rick Hunter
(Post 2959560)
Oooohhh... guess what I received in the mail...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3033/...89273d4c_o.jpg Yes... it's the Midcity Engineering MM204VK package that includes a backup camera! Delivery of this item to the West Coast took about a week, and was packed very well. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/...3584c9d9_o.jpg So I finally had time to do the install this weekend, and I must say... HOW COULD I HAVE GONE WITHOUT THIS??? :D For the price (and quality), this definitely beats out the Quickpark OEM system. So before I detail my DIY... here's the specs: 2008 C300 4MATIC with P1, P2, MM Packages. No TeleAid or Sirius subscriptions present @ time of install. Disclaimer: I'm sharing this DIY in the hopes that there may be more interest in doing your own DIYs. It is definitely a great learning experience, but I am in no way responsible for any consequences (positive or negative) as a result of you reading this DIY thread. If you choose to do this DIY yourself, you are solely responsible for whatever that happens. You have been warned. :y Kewl... now onwards! I found this document online re: removing the Trunk Lid trim: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3004/...5cffcdbb_o.jpg In colour, it looks like this: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3022/...4ec09440_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3008/...2d5caf65_o.jpg Regarding the Handle Strip (#7 in diagram), there's a couple of other screws that I had to remove before I yanked the sucker off the trunk (and I mean YANKED). I was careful not to scratch the surrounding paint, though... http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3171/...c69deda9_o.jpg Thereafter, I followed the Midcity Engineering video very closely (Thanks, Midcity Engineering!!!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_5Fkawy-_g As far as hiding the video cables, I was able to access the Head Unit from underneath the passenger side panel. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2276/...c7ed788b_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3252/...5dabff5f_o.jpg After feeding the wire under the passenger side sills through to the back, I proceeded to mount the camera. I had to cut a hole in the Handle Strip, right at the predetermined hole. The plastic's thick, so it was a PITA. I then fed the camera wires down the Trunk Lid and down towards the tail light. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/...5c85042e_o.jpg The last thing that needed to be done was to splice the proper wires so that the camera would have power. After spending hours and hours scouring for info, I was able to figure out the right ones. Brown = Ground Grey/Yellow = Reverse Light http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/...c32b43d1_o.jpg So... does it work? The moment of truth... http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3085/...bfbca1b1_o.jpg SWEET!!! After putting everything back together, I took some final pics. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3109/...f816a829_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3089/...83496e3a_o.jpg -fin- |
Anyone already have a FAKRA connector on the Command unit when they pulled it out? How did you connect the camera FAKRA?
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Anyone can restore the images so that this thread is useful again?
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Images ??
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Originally Posted by Lecson
(Post 6236981)
Images ??
I wonder if Flckr changed the url of the pictures but they still look okay to Ray because I don't see them either. |
Can someone please repost the pictures?
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photos no longer load! please fix!
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Just to give you guys an update about the $20 backup camera which has constant power by the #71 fuse. After 4 years now of use and after driven 78k and subject to canadian weather it is still working like a champ.
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Originally Posted by shotgun_banjo
(Post 6646114)
Just to give you guys an update about the $20 backup camera which has constant power by the #71 fuse. After 4 years now of use and after driven 78k and subject to canadian weather it is still working like a champ.
Wow, that's impressive :y Thanks for the update. |
I don't suppose there is anyway to get a link to the pictures?
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