MORE GREAT MB C-CLASS NEWS!!
C Class is now #1 in the segment....where are all those BMW/Audi folks who troll our forum now???:naughty:
http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings...ry-premium-car Also found this quote: Cheers, Glyn! The Daimler assembly plant in East London, South Africa, receives the Platinum Plant Quality Award for producing vehicles yielding the fewest defects and malfunctions worldwide. Averaging 28 PP100, the plant produces the Mercedes-Benz C-Class. |
PROUD OWNER OF A SA C-CLASS :o)
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Wow, I'm glad I got a C300 now. It's surprising to hear how good the South African assembly plant is.
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that is why i love my car
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That is indeed great news for C Class owners. Even though we've known it all along, it's nice to have it be official from a reputable agency. :D
As for 3 Series, Audi 4/5 & G series owners, OUCH!! |
Originally Posted by Krytech
(Post 4125154)
As for 3 Series, Audi 4/5 & G series owners, OUCH!!
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Originally Posted by C300Sport
(Post 4125256)
No doubt! I have to say I am more and more impressed with the efforts, and results of the US brands as well...keeps things interesting anyhow.
It's about time..I'm so f'in sick of hearing about how much higher quality asian cars are.. as a whole, GM and Ford are building better cars than Toyota/Honda/Nissan imo. Hell, even Hyundais are nicer than Toyotas now. I also found it amusing that Mercedes beat Lexus..very amusing. |
Comparisons
Originally Posted by C300Kid
(Post 4125794)
It's about time..I'm so f'in sick of hearing about how much higher quality asian cars are.. as a whole, GM and Ford are building better cars than Toyota/Honda/Nissan imo. Hell, even Hyundais are nicer than Toyotas now.
I also found it amusing that Mercedes beat Lexus..very amusing. |
Originally Posted by RLE
(Post 4126727)
Keep in mind that Mercedes are Mercedes whereas Toyota, Nissan and Honda cars are simply places to sit in out of the weather while travelling from point A to point B.
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Not comparing
Originally Posted by C300Kid
(Post 4126920)
I wasn't comparing Mercedes to Toyota/Nissan/Honda. I was comparing Mercedes to Lexus. I've often heard the misconception that Mercedes are glorified junk and Lexuses are the pinnacle of quality so I found it funny that Mercedes ranked so high.
I am not comparing but rather pointing out that Daimler AG stands alone in what it is whereas those others, while all very good cars these days also, are mere appliances. So, while today's reliability measurements are icing on the cake, they are not the reason I drive Mercedes-Benz. Those other makes are for whose who still do not "get it". And that's a good thing for us, perhaps. One last thing, the 1990 LS 400 was the car that forced MB to raise their quality, reliability and service even though it took fifteen years plus to get there. |
does anyone know if they assembly the C63 in the same SA plant too ?
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Originally Posted by RLE
(Post 4126957)
One last thing, the 1990 LS 400 was the car that forced MB to raise their quality, reliability and service even though it took fifteen years plus to get there.
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For those who know the company, it took the departure of Schremp and fast and intense efforts of Zetsche since his return to Daimler in 2006 to set the new direction, now bearing first fruit. With Bernhard taking on his recent role, expect only additional improvements. He is wonderfully obsessed with quality.
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Sounds good to me. Honestly owning this car has taken me from MB hater to a huge fan of the company and a possible repeat customer. I was BMW all the way, bought the C300 on a whim..best decision I could've made.
I've since lost most of my faith in BMW. If I were to go elsewhere, it would be Audi or Porsche..or even Cadillac. |
Originally Posted by C300Kid
(Post 4127308)
Then why was MB quality terrible during much of the 90s into the early 00s?
You have a few years before they accept that Lexus makes a better Merc than Merc does. Then a few years to finally agree to, and how to, move back to quality vs. profit margin, market share, etc. Then a few years for the product development cycle to begin reaping the benefits of an emphasis on improved quality. |
Originally Posted by C300Kid
(Post 4127335)
Sounds good to me. Honestly owning this car has taken me from MB hater to a huge fan of the company and a possible repeat customer. I was BMW all the way, bought the C300 on a whim..best decision I could've made.
I've since lost most of my faith in BMW. If I were to go elsewhere, it would be Audi or Porsche..or even Cadillac. IMHO, based on quality and considering potential for performance, the rank order for high perf 4 doors, other than MB, would be Porsche Panamera, give BMW another chance, Cadillac (CTS V Series), check out the new Volvo S60 (seriously...read the first road tests), Taurus SHO, the new Saab 95, 300C SRT8, then, maybe, Audi. I just can't get past my own and others' poor experiences with Audi reliability and durability...but they sure look great and drive well when they are working. |
I just like the company a lot. I'd take my chances with reliability.
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Originally Posted by C300Kid
(Post 4127637)
I'd take my chances with reliability.
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Originally Posted by Sportstick
(Post 4127367)
I just can't get past my own and others' poor experiences with Audi reliability and durability...but they sure look great and drive well when they are working.
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O.K., here's my unforgiveable Audi story:
There's a part, which looks something like a spark plug, which is the pressure sensor in the oil sump, which sends the signal to the warning light in the instrument cluster. One day, it decided to crack while I was traveling on I-80 in the middle of Pennsylvania. It wasn't quite a B*st*rd Polluter (BP!) level of oil spill, but in the cloud of oil spray behind me were some very unhappy drivers. Car was towed to the nearest town with an Audi dealer who replaced the part the next day. So, a once in a lifetime event, right? NO!:X Happened again in my home town, but the tow to the dealer was shorter. I started carrying spares with me, and sure enough, a gas station had to help me out replacing the same part again! By now, my Audi had become an environmental hazard. That was my last Audi, and will always be my last Audi. I didn't even get into the driveability problems, which eventually led to a retrofit repair kit from Audi which.......DID NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM!!! Enough! Never again!! |
can't say I'm surprised since my 204 has be problem free so far other than a faulty moon roof switch and a squeaky gauge cluster trim.
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Just got my C300 4Matic last week but been looking since 08. I tested Lexus IS 250, BMW 328i and Audi A4. Smooth acceleration nice interior and body style got me the most. Mercedes Benz always turns head when you pass by or stop.
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Reliability
Originally Posted by C300Kid
(Post 4127308)
Then why was MB quality terrible during much of the 90s into the early 00s?
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sensor
Originally Posted by Sportstick
(Post 4127751)
O.K., here's my unforgiveable Audi story:
There's a part, which looks something like a spark plug, which is the pressure sensor in the oil sump, which sends the signal to the warning light in the instrument cluster. <<<BIG SNIP>>> BTW, MB had plenty of trouble with oil level sensors when they started using them in the '80s. |
Originally Posted by RLE
(Post 4127855)
If it's in the sump, it was likely the oil level sensor. If it's the oil pressure sender, it would be in an oil gallery.
BTW, MB had plenty of trouble with oil level sensors when they started using them in the '80s. |
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