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How many of you are into the stance scene?
I know the G35/350z community its huge and even in the european community. My question is how many of you follow the scene and frequent sites like hellaflush, stance nation, canibeat, just stance, etc.... Any of you care to share your secrets for running a proper setup on a W204 as far as wheel diameter/width/and offsets on how to achieve a proper flush look? Thanks for your input. Post pics of your stanced W204 if you have one:y
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I guess everyone has their own "taste"...but taking a highly engineered vehicle, were high-paid and well educated engineers have spent countless hours optimizing the vehicle dynamics, and just wasting it with oversized rims and tires that just do not fit...It is just not for me...no disrespect, but I think this "fad" will pass with age...people will look back and say to themselves looking at these pictures..."what was I thinking?"
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I wouldnt go as far as saying its a "waste", when most of the wheels posted are actually lighter than OEM, but like you said it all comes down to preference. Me personally, I dont like the look of wheels that look lost in the fender wells with weak offsets and wheel gap, which is why aftermarket wheels IMO is one of the best upgrades you can do to make a car look great. The engineers are being modest when they design a car simply because the type of people that buy these cars could care less about the aftermarket world, but for those who do, can fine tune the car and make it more desirable when they begin to get bored with it!
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Agreed . I think these cars look good like this although its not for everyone . Most people work very hard to afford a Mercedes or other highly engineered cars and by the time they get said car their taste will have changed . Example : s class buyer up to their 30's might swap out wheels or maybe a tune ... someone older say in their 40s probably wouldnt be interested in changing anything . Its really all about age demographic .
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do you mean the VIP look?
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I think if its done properly it looks pretty cool, but lets be realistic.. it kills performance when 1/4th of the rear tire isnt making contact with the ground, with all that camber. I think its fair to say its just for looks.
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Originally Posted by Spec_Davis
(Post 4464419)
do you mean the VIP look?
Originally Posted by bigigg
(Post 4464428)
I think if its done properly it looks pretty cool, but lets be realistic.. it kills performance when 1/4th of the rear tire isnt making contact with the ground, with all that camber. I think its fair to say its just for looks.
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Originally Posted by Spec_Davis
(Post 4464419)
do you mean the VIP look?
Here are some pics from previous meets and some for the lulz Attachment 382383 Attachment 382384 Attachment 382385 Attachment 382386 http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...0/IMG_3841.jpg http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...0/IMG_3843.jpg Attachment 382387 |
and If your serious I can ask some of my friends for you they ride it lower than low riders
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Originally Posted by xXHotelCrazyXx
(Post 4464357)
I wouldnt go as far as saying its a "waste", when most of the wheels posted are acually lighter than OEM, but like you said it all comes down to preference. Me personally, I dont like the look of wheels that look lost in the fender wells with weak offsets and wheel gap, which is why aftermarket wheels IMO is one of the best upgrades you can do to make a car look great. The engineers are being modest when they design a car simply because the type of people that buy these cars could care less about the aftermarket world, but for those who do, can fine tune the car and make it more desirable when they begin to get bored with it!
-Reduced mass for lower unsprung weight is a good thing, but it doesn't require, and is actually undone by, these performance-destroying fitments. -The chassis engineers I knew while working at an OE never had "modesty" as a functional nor dynamic objective. They are trying to find that sometimes elusive balance between a variety of forces, including cost and an appearance that will be accepted by the target market, and not look like a vehicle likely to be taken into evidence at a crime scene. (Although, I think you mean the buyers could NOT care less, as if they could care less, they still care more than the minimum!) -I agree aftermarket wheels can make a nice upgrade, just like new/more stylish shoes for a person, but the goal is for them to actually fit! The cars shown above not only no longer have wheels which fit, but now perform much more poorly. And, the point is...............???:nix: Sorry if this sounds harsh...no personal comments intended, but this just makes no sense to me at all. :cheers: |
I think the whole idea of stance scene is kinda like VIP styling in our country, it all about big shinny wheels and super low body of your vehicle. Recently it's quite popular to do such pimping in Japan, Hong Kong and China etc. It's not about car performances anymore, it's all about making your vehicle looks cool and unique. Is that right guys?
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Originally Posted by handsomechris
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I think the whole idea of stance scene is kinda like VIP styling in our country, it all about big shinny wheels and super low body of your vehicle. Recently it's quite popular to do such pimping in Japan, Hong Kong and China etc. It's not about car performances anymore, it's all about making your vehicle looks cool and unique. Is that right guys?
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Originally Posted by Sportstick
(Post 4464498)
Sorry...what a terrible thing to do to a perfectly innocent car!! A few false premises here, as well.
-Reduced mass for lower unsprung weight is a good thing, but it doesn't require, and is actually undone by, these performance-destroying fitments. -The chassis engineers I knew while working at an OE never had "modesty" as a functional nor dynamic objective. They are trying to find that sometimes elusive balance between a variety of forces, including cost and an appearance that will be accepted by the target market, and not look like a vehicle likely to be taken into evidence at a crime scene. (Although, I think you mean the buyers could NOT care less, as if they could care less, they still care more than the minimum!) -I agree aftermarket wheels can make a nice upgrade, just like new/more stylish shoes for a person, but the goal is for them to actually fit! The cars shown above not only no longer have wheels which fit, but now perform much more poorly. And, the point is...............???:nix: Sorry if this sounds harsh...no personal comments intended, but this just makes no sense to me at all. :cheers: |
We got a few members here with cut springs that shows a very aggressive drop/ stance... car show material
That's whats good with adjustable coilovers... You can tune your suspension to your own liking |
Originally Posted by ZeroSeVen
(Post 4464645)
We got a few members here with cut springs that shows a very aggressive drop/ stance... car show material
That's whats good with adjustable coilovers... You can tune your suspension to your own liking |
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Here's stance for you :D
Attachment 382382 http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...G_6379copy.jpg Obviously not normal ride height. Juiced, not bagged. |
I think most w204 owners are more towards luxury and smooth ride. I'm more for performance and the hellaflush trend would just kill the car in the canyons. A show car is nice but not if you can't drive it like you stole ;] Ur g had a nice look to it, sporty and aggressive. Not like it's going to pop a wheel if it goes over 10mph like those pics.
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Originally Posted by ZeroSeVen
(Post 4464645)
We got a few members here with cut springs that shows a very aggressive drop/ stance... car show material
That's whats good with adjustable coilovers... You can tune your suspension to your own liking If you have to cut your springs, then you made the wrong decision on buying a benz
Originally Posted by envyxc350
(Post 4464738)
I think most w204 owners are more towards luxury and smooth ride. I'm more for performance and the hellaflush trend would just kill the car in the canyons. A show car is nice but not if you can't drive it like you stole ;] Ur g had a nice look to it, sporty and aggressive. Not like it's going to pop a wheel if it goes over 10mph like those pics.
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Originally Posted by xXHotelCrazyXx
(Post 4464573)
Nice input.... these cars arnt built for the track, and simply driven to work/school/car meets etc.
The difference in perspective is that I changed my wheels, tires, and antisway bars, but never go to the track, no shows either. I bought it to drive it "fully", every day. All the components are consistent with the original design intent. But, I sure enjoy every turn, cloverleaf, etc., in a way those cars could no longer provide, not to mention more predictable emergency behavior if that unfortunate need should ever arise. But, I get your point...I just cannot viscerally understand it. |
i think it looks awful...kinda like you wanted to go out and buy really cool, big rims but bought the wrong size tires to go with them. The slammed/tires tucked in the fenders reminds me of the old, beat up hoopties that are scraping the ground because their suspension is shot
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I think it looks disgusting... but still respect those who have done a great job with it. Some are botched, whereas for some you can appreciate that the work was done right.
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Originally Posted by Sportstick
(Post 4464988)
Thanks for taking it in the right spirit! :D
The difference in perspective is that I changed my wheels, tires, and antisway bars, but never go to the track, no shows either. I bought it to drive it "fully", every day. All the components are consistent with the original design intent. But, I sure enjoy every turn, cloverleaf, etc., in a way those cars could no longer provide, not to mention more predictable emergency behavior if that unfortunate need should ever arise. But, I get your point...I just cannot viscerally understand it. |
The amount of drop on the rear tire is perfect...the front however looks ridiculous.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4052/...5a03c302_b.jpg |
my slammed 204 before i wrecked it (cant even put a blackberry under the front lip, or side skirt)... sigh.... just needed to put spacers and push the wheels out to get tha hella flush thang goin on...
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._7347782_n.jpg |
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