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AstronBnX 11-13-2012 08:23 AM

Here is My Comand Online NTG4.5 with Android
 
Here is the Comand Online NTG4.5 with Android. Android is connected over Video Aux.

I wish that there was a HDMI input but unfortunatelly there was not :( The quality is not good but it is acceptable. I have setup android screen font size as bigger as possible, so now it is okay for readability.


PS: Sorry for Turkish Video.

benzo-boi 11-14-2012 03:49 AM

Pardon my ignorance, but how did you get your comand to connect to the internet??

dcjwlee 11-14-2012 09:13 AM

If I'm not mistaken, his phone is connected to the internet.

vertex 11-14-2012 10:42 AM

it looks like he is just using the screen to display what is on his phone.

AstronBnX 11-14-2012 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by benzo-boi (Post 5431816)
Pardon my ignorance, but how did you get your comand to connect to the internet??

Dear benzo-boi,

As you know that connecting internet over bluetooth is very slow, BT max speed can be 115kbps. I really do not understand why Mercedes chose such a method. Comand Online is not usable for lowest speeds. In my video i have put a mini android device into glovebox and it has built-in WIFI. I'm going to take some photos for you on tomorrow for being clear.

AstronBnX 11-14-2012 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by vertex (Post 5432088)
it looks like he is just using the screen to display what is on his phone.

Not my phone screen. It is mini android screen into glovebox.

Sam4u 11-15-2012 02:37 AM

nice :) wish I can do that on my MB, but the stupid thing has only Iphone connector in the glove box :(

benzo-boi 11-15-2012 04:14 AM


Originally Posted by AstronBnX (Post 5432584)
Not my phone screen. It is mini android screen into glovebox.

Can you please explain how you actually got your COMAND to connect to the internet and what hardware is required in doing the procedure.

JasonHu 11-15-2012 05:28 PM

Nice setup! What did you use to connect the Android unit to the AUX into the COMAND? What type of cables?

Capn 11-15-2012 06:53 PM

That's is frickin' awesome man. You gotta tell us how you did that...

AstronBnX 11-16-2012 07:56 AM

Here is usage and how i did installation of the my android;

1- Radio Screen
http://s8.postimage.org/r2pjrcjjp/image.jpg

2- You have to select AUX tab. If you dont have AUX selection, you need to enable Video AUX from the Engineering Menu. (Press 3 second whole button to enter Eng.Menu "Hangup+1+#")
http://s16.postimage.org/phrbk08c5/image.jpg
http://s17.postimage.org/odh5iciun/image.jpg

3-Here is Android SplashScreen while loading
http://s11.postimage.org/ktrb7tntf/image.jpg

4- Desktop of Android
http://s17.postimage.org/4mtiq7yi7/image.jpg

5-Keyboard for android. I prefer this trackball keyboard, because it is very difficult to use the touch keyboard.
http://s7.postimage.org/4k99vbfqz/image.jpg
You can Buy from: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/110518339.html

6- Here is my tidy glove box :) Android MiniX801 is attached with adhesive tape.
http://s10.postimage.org/tuygc7vgp/image.jpg

7- Yellow arrow is Keyboard USB module, Green is WIFI antena. Android has also AV output so that you can directly connect to Comand NTG4.5 you dont need to any converter for this MiniX Android.
http://s9.postimage.org/yufi4zzjz/image.jpg
Buy from: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/110517005.html

8-MiniX Android is nice but little bit slow. It has 1 Core CPU.
http://s8.postimage.org/hrvio7w8l/7a1.jpg

But, you can buy this;
http://s11.postimage.org/o63e6cjpv/image.jpg

It has Dual Core 1.6 CPU this is very cool.. Its speed is very nice. But you need to buy also a HDMI to AV converter. I can obviously say that converting HDMI to AV is not good for display because, you are losing screen resolution. (Comand NTG4.5 has 1280x800 screen res.)

Android: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/202403436.html

http://s8.postimage.org/5t6zdm9kl/image.jpg
Convert: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/200372686.html

9- You need also Power for android. Usually android is working DC 5Volt. Here is 12V to 5V 3A converter.
http://s10.postimage.org/usn9420i1/image.jpg
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-Conver...-/130721834041

10- Yes, now you need a FAKRA to AV cable. This cable is not for Comand NTG4.5 but, you can plug to FAKRA, To do this, you have to remove plastic case. There are 2 (I remembered that it was dark green socket) fakra male B input connection back of the Comand head unit. One of them is for rear Camera and other is Video Aux input. I haven't a picture of the comand's back side. If i would take a picture, i'm going to upload the picture to see which fakra connection.
http://s7.postimage.org/watacc4fv/image.jpg
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-FOR...item564e42353a

Newly found yet, and ordered from Ebay :) I think this is suitable for Fakra Male B.
http://masterantena.soteshop.pl/uplo...20antenowy.jpg

As I mention before that if you cannot find like this fakra cable you have to use cable without plastic case, like this;
http://s13.postimage.org/6glsbbu07/IMG_9245.jpg

11- Now, you need to connect Audio input. (I got this schema from my friend in MB service :P ) As you see that, in main fakra socket of the comand there are 3 sockets, A and B,C sockets. When you look at the B socket there are 3 pins for Audio input.

Pin 6 is for AUX Left, Pin 12 is for AUX Right, Pin 11 is for AUX GND. You can connect Audio output from Android to these pins. I prefer stripping FAKRA connector cable used for VIM (As you know that Video In Motion module for unblocking video signal while moving) not for FAKRA comes from the car.

http://s12.postimage.org/j8bj97mrx/image.jpg

12- Internet connection
http://s7.postimage.org/lsgq391mj/image.jpg

13- Enable access point from your smartphone.
http://s10.postimage.org/x6jxqktft/image.jpg

14- A TV application in Turkey for Android
http://s12.postimage.org/clkqlnwnh/image.jpg

15- This is a tv channel. If you have good 3G connection in your country you can watch TV without any interruption while driving.
In Turkey, we can reach 7 Mbit/sec 3G connection by Turkcell, so that we have no internet problem.
http://s11.postimage.org/3sw0g1lg3/image.jpg

16- Here is MBWorld site :)
http://s14.postimage.org/4j02i481t/image.jpg

PS: Sorry for my english, I hope that this topic could have explained to you.

NauticaX 11-16-2012 09:00 AM

I'm assuming this only works in Park since the AUX input does not work while car is in motion right?

AstronBnX 11-16-2012 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by NauticaX (Post 5434572)
I'm assuming this only works in Park since the AUX input does not work while car is in motion right?

No, If you are using VIM (Video In Motion module) there is not any problem.. It is always working while car is in moving.

You need this for VIM:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDE2MD...Z4g~~60_12.JPG
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DVD-IN-MOT...item1e6876a4f9

Or quality one is Kufatec (I'm using this VIM):
http://www.kufatec.com/index.php?mai...3ev7mqf6q2lsl3

Davinong 11-16-2012 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by AstronBnX (Post 5434589)
No, If you are using VIM (Video In Motion module) there is not any problem.. It is always working while car is in moving.

You need this for VIM:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDE2MD...Z4g~~60_12.JPG
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DVD-IN-MOT...item1e6876a4f9

Or quality one is Kufatec (I'm using this VIM):
http://www.kufatec.com/index.php?mai...3ev7mqf6q2lsl3

wow that so cool! im definitely gna try building that when i've time.

btw ive been interested in installing VIM for awhile but worried whether installation is difficult. did you install it yourself? was it hard?

HBguy 11-16-2012 11:02 PM

Your English is cok guzel. Thanks for the write-up and sharing the information! I hope I can do this with mine. I don't remember a DVD option for mine but I'll play around and see what happens.

AstronBnX 11-17-2012 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by Davinong (Post 5435483)
wow that so cool! im definitely gna try building that when i've time.

btw ive been interested in installing VIM for awhile but worried whether installation is difficult. did you install it yourself? was it hard?

Yes, i installed it myself. It is easy to install it. You need 2 thin screwdriver for left and right clips of the air ventilation to pull it out. And 20 Trox screwdriver for Head unit. That's all :) But, you have to be
carefully while pulling air ventilation part.

I also have to say that, After installation VIM, you can get an error when connects car
for SCN coding ODB2 socket. Because of bloking CANBUS signal. Star diagnos says the error is usually
in DVD or Video. This is normal.

This is only for comand NTG4.5 VIM, there isn't any problem with comand NTG4.0.
There is not VIM module gives no error for NTG4.5 arround yet.

AstronBnX 11-17-2012 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by HBguy (Post 5435550)
Your English is cok guzel. Thanks for the write-up and sharing the information! I hope I can do this with mine. I don't remember a DVD option for mine but I'll play around and see what happens.

I'm happy for your polite approach. :) and Thank you for cute Turkish word :) If you have any further question please let me know. I'm ready to share with you all what I know.

miloc204 11-17-2012 07:28 PM

can this installed on the aux of comand aps ntg4?

AstronBnX 11-18-2012 06:27 PM

Sorry you cannot directly :( There is only one video aux input for NTG4.0, that is for rear camera. You need Multimedia interface for NTG4.0;

Have a look at these two links:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-C-C...item3a7b34b43d
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-W20...item3a7892ff3c

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Mercedes-W204...6lQ~~60_12.JPG

For NTG4.5 you have 2 video input, rear cam and video aux.

miloc204 11-19-2012 01:17 AM

so if i buy an interface i can install this android?can i do this with apple?

AstronBnX 11-19-2012 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by miloc204 (Post 5437602)
so if i buy an interface i can install this android?can i do this with apple?

Yes, you can.. This module has 3 AV input. 1 is for rear and 2 are for AV input. You can connect everything has AV output. To use with Apple you need iphone or ipad AV cable. This can be easly found in Ebay.

Davinong 11-19-2012 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by AstronBnX (Post 5437195)
Sorry you cannot directly :( There is only one video aux input for NTG4.0, that is for rear camera. You need Multimedia interface for NTG4.0;

Have a look at these two links:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-C-C...item3a7b34b43d
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-W20...item3a7892ff3c

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Mercedes-W204...6lQ~~60_12.JPG

For NTG4.5 you have 2 video input, rear cam and video aux.

hmmm, mine is a 2011 E250, i think it is NTG4 ? however i do not have a rearview camera so does that mean i can use that aux slot for this setup?

Davinong 11-19-2012 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by AstronBnX (Post 5436089)
Yes, i installed it myself. It is easy to install it. You need 2 thin screwdriver for left and right clips of the air ventilation to pull it out. And 20 Trox screwdriver for Head unit. That's all :) But, you have to be
carefully while pulling air ventilation part.

I also have to say that, After installation VIM, you can get an error when connects car
for SCN coding ODB2 socket. Because of bloking CANBUS signal. Star diagnos says the error is usually
in DVD or Video. This is normal.

This is only for comand NTG4.5 VIM, there isn't any problem with comand NTG4.0.
There is not VIM module gives no error for NTG4.5 arround yet.

nice alright thanks! anw i see you hv the bluetooth ODB2 adapter as well, i use it with my phone and the app Torque Pro and use my phone as boost gauge haha!

4g63pilot 11-19-2012 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by Davinong (Post 5438610)
hmmm, mine is a 2011 E250, i think it is NTG4 ? however i do not have a rearview camera so does that mean i can use that aux slot for this setup?


+1 Would also like to know if I dont have the RVC can I do this with just the 1 aux .

AstronBnX 11-20-2012 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by Davinong (Post 5438610)
hmmm, mine is a 2011 E250, i think it is NTG4 ? however i do not have a rearview camera so does that mean i can use that aux slot for this setup?

As you said that, there is only one AV input which is for only Rearview Cam. And this AV input is starting to work or get AV signals when the gear is rear mode by reverse sensor. This means you have no chance to connect any AV resources to this slot.

To understand you have NTG4.0 or 4.5 you will have Browser sign (world sign) at top right side of the screen. If there is a World icon so you have NTG4.5 and you have 2 AV input.

If you have NTG4.0, there is a best solution for you. We applied retrofit for NTG4.5 to a car and NTG4.5 is working now :zoom: Yes, you can replace your NTG4.0 with NTG4.5. This is orginal solution!. As you see that in my previous post, the multimedia module is chines modules. If i have no orginal solution i prefer to use this type of modules.

For orginal solution, you need Comand Online NTG4.5 for W212 (head unit), Telematics cables, lcd screen, gps antena and Xentry Developer edition to enable NTG4.5 for your car. If you dont have Xentry developer you have to go to MB service. If you go to MB services, you need thief PIN code and include head unit code 527 into your car data card (To include head unit code is hard part). If you have problem to supply these parts, i can recommend someone in germany. He gets these parts from damaged car and sending to us. I checked it to know from MB service in Turkey against stolen parts or not, it was not.

I have looked at Ebay right now, there are new multimedia interface products;

http://blueocean-net.com/web/img/pr_2.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-BENZ-NE...897d2e&vxp=mtr


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