Official w204 thread - Updated 01/17/07 (Last page - Official Press Release)
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I have aso seen these pics in a UK mag
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Does anyone else find the styling of the sedan to be somewhat subdued "Bangle-ation" of the C-Class? I hope this isn't a sign of things to come for all of MB's lines.
At least the coupe doesn't suffer from the same mutilation. |
Thanx but WTLW
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Yep, we discussed this a while ago. We all agree it looks like a freaking Acura :mad:
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Looks okay, but I'm not feelin' the headlights.
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OMG!!! What the hell is with those headlights? Jeez! The whole thing looks like it was attacked by a Bangle wanna-be! I can safely say that MB isn't getting my money when it comes time to change my C230k SS...
DAMN!! FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYY! !!!!!! |
I would drive it, not the coupe though.
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wow, does look like the Acura with the Benz grill up in front. The cars are getting more boxier and boxier, i like it when the benzs are nicely curved. Seems like their is a slight fender flare on that car. I guess MB wants to make it more aggressive. Not diggin it too much :nix:
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That is a result when you get american car designers involved. The car looks like they took a Honda, BMW, Audi and Dodge (any small four door Dodge) and put then in a bag then shooked them up and spit out the new C-Class.
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If that is what it will look like, I would rather take an Acura TSX for a sharper appearance.
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hahaha.....
maybe acura has infiltrated MB... and has some spies working for the 2007 c-class design team...
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yes it does have acura resemblance, but from those pics looks like the coupe is still around.
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Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
yes it does have acura resemblance, but from those pics looks like the coupe is still around.
You think that re-design is bad go get the latest Car and Driver and see how they killed the G-Class..... I am so dissapointed in MB's choice of the way they want to go. Maybe they have not heard that no one likes the Bangle-ised BMW's!!!!!! |
Mine's almost a C32 Coupe... just keep those mods coming !!! :zoom:
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ive seen pics of the new G. not really sure about it. i agree that just because there are pics doenst mean it is coming to the USA. but from a thread i read before i took it as meaning the coupe was going for good, not that it wasnt coming to the US shores.
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Looking at the 07 C class pictures, im definitely not going to wait for the new c class and go right on ahead to purchase the 05 c230. :y
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lol, im not too fond of the look i hope its more of a spy shot then what the real thing will look like.
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it looks like they're trying to make it look really really aggressive. to a degree, they're successful on that front.
i don't think it's as bangle-esque as many have made it out to be - it's not as horrendous as the new 7, 6, 5, and Z4 bmws IMHO. i do think the coupe's rear end looks better compared with the current coupes. overall, i'm indifferent. maybe it'll grow on us. the coupe grew on me, i hated it at first hah; i now own one. |
REPOST! :zoom:
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repost? :confused:
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i never liked the taillights of the coupe but loved the rest of the car. i fixed that with the 2005 tails. i agree with prodigy1387, i do like the new rear end of the coupe.
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Originally Posted by prodigy1387
repost? :confused:
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At least they didn't give it to the latest BMW designers... :crazy:
LATE EDIT: Looks like someone was WAY ahead of me... http://www.petitiononline.com/STOPCB/petition.html |
Originally Posted by preyx
At least they didn't give it to the latest BMW designers... :crazy:
LATE EDIT: Looks like someone was WAY ahead of me... http://www.petitiononline.com/STOPCB/petition.html |
im on there too
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me three...i just signed it actually, i'm number 10,172 :rolf:
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Arghh.....when did Chris Bangle leave BMW and joined MBZ?
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dont like it.. :-(
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You know what's funny? All the guys on the bimmer boards are saying how they are so digusted by bangles designs that they are going to switch to MB. After these pics make their way over there, I doubt they'll want an MB either. :D :lol
As for the car itself, it looks like crap. It must be a photoshop. It's still too early to know for sure what the real car will look like. MB needs to evolve the current design, not change it completely. These pics represent a change that is as radical as the 202 to 203 change. Not necessary IMHO. David. |
I dunno car designs in general switch from curvy to sharp edges back to curvy and then back again.......actually looks ok except for the eyelids for the headlights....
its more acuraesque than bmwish |
id like to see an evolution of the current design as well rather than a complete make-over.
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i highly doubt that's the next c-class. i was noticing, if you look at the picture of the coupe convertible, the frame around the door window is still present on the part near the windshield, but MB never puts frames on the door windows of convertibles.
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the interior is like the bimmers! Especially the doors :wwf:
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hehe. maybe the european designers figured that they got to go with the ugly looks to make their cars more distinctive looking since the japanese luxury car manufacturers have already copied their standard designs.
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that's the road cadillac has gone down. just the ugly looks in general.
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I really hope these are not accurate... Autobild did a pretty good job with the spy pics of the upcoming E90, though.
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WOW... the grill on the first pic is so HUUUGGEEEE..
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So has anyone seen any other alleged spy photos of w204? To my eye, the photos, especially the 4D one at the top, look pretty sharp and not-photoshopped, but what do I know.
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The w204 better be good
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Having just bought a 2005 w203, I kind of hope it is not. :crazy:
I would have expected that seeing a w204 spy photo would make me say, "Sh*t, the w203 I just bought sucks, I really want that w204!!!" But those pics don't! Can't say the new look really does much for me. Of course, I suppose a lot will obviously change in the design between now and mid-2006. I hope they bring back some curvaceous-ness to the hood that currently sets MB apart from other cars. The flattened hood in the w204 pics (and the ridgeline running along the door handles on each side) make it look kind of the like the bmw e90 pics that are out there. |
Originally Posted by HITMAN
The w204 better be good
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The w204 photo might look more "futuristic", but to me it doesn't look "better" than w203. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
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a lil old but the coupe kinda looks like a TL from the back. i like the tl's looks so it all works out.
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It's an Acura TL with a MB Grill... hardly a revolutionary design. I do think it looks much better than the current POS C230 Coupe due to the hideous back on the current model. Depending on the ride quality, luxury amenities, and interior... I may purchase one.
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anyone have any updated/newer shots of the potential W204?
-Danny |
Originally Posted by Tandrek
It's an Acura TL with a MB Grill... hardly a revolutionary design. I do think it looks much better than the current POS C230 Coupe due to the hideous back on the current model. Depending on the ride quality, luxury amenities, and interior... I may purchase one.
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Originally Posted by vadim
Better buy a Buick - rest assured, it will never be "hideously" out ot ordinary.
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If its going to come, its going to come! LOL Get use to it or move on.
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Is the new W204 C-class going to have convertibles as part of its line-up, like the BMW 3-series and Audi A4 line-ups do? If so, does that mean the CLK line is going to be scrapped? :nix:
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Originally Posted by Incendiary
Is the new W204 C-class going to have convertibles as part of its line-up, like the BMW 3-series and Audi A4 line-ups do?
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W204 arrives in 2007?
I found this article on the web:
http://motoring.iafrica.com/newsbriefs/338511.htm It says production of W204 will not start before year 2007. If this is true, it would be good news for those who just bought their car. At least we can enjoy it longer before it becomes outdated. |
Can't get to it...
Am I doing something wrong or what?.....Everytime I go to read the article and click on your link this comes up "The page cannot be displayed"...I would like to read this article since I am about to get my 2005 c230 ss... :wall:
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Ok, here is the article.
Mon, 11 Oct 2004 SA Merc talks held in Germany Posted Fri, 30 Jul 2004 Top DaimlerChrysler management are meeting in Stuttgart on Friday to hammer out production details for the replacement model C-Class Mercedes Benz dubbed the W204. Although production on the W204 will not start before 2007 details of which Mercedes Benz plants will be responsible for what models and volumes are being hammered out, DaimlerChrysler South Africa spokesperson Deon Ebersohn said on Thursday. The meeting was adjourned late on Thursday and is to resume on Friday and an announcement is expected to be made regarding details of the new model. Ebersohn on Tuesday said East London, along with plants in Bremen and Sindelfingen in Germany, would be building the new C-Class. Discussions in Stuttgart on Friday, involving East London plant manager Hans-Georg Neiffer, centre on volumes and markets for the new model. The East London plant has been and will be manufacturing all the current W203 right-hand drive C-Class models. Ebersohn said on Thursday that apart from volume and markets Neiffer is there to discuss the East London's plant's flexibility. "We have to find a way to get the East London operation more flexibility so it can fit into Mercedes Benz's global network. "If the situation were to remain the same the plant here would get all the right-hand drive new models. "This would represent a slight production increase as expectations are that the W204 is going to be such a good model that it is going to be more desirable. "But the wish list is to get some of the left-hand drive models as well." Although no specific markets would be discussed at this round of talks, South Africa would be able to reap the benefits of the United States' African Growth and Opportunities Act if it made cars for the US market. Expectations are high at DCSA's Pretoria headquarters in this regard and if the left-hand drive production gets the nod far greater volumes would be expected for the local plant resulting in further growth in the region due to expansion by component manufacturers and new ones moving in. The factory has received praise from its head office for build quality and efficiency during the current lifespan of the W203 model which is something that has raised expectations in terms of increased volumes. Sapa |
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thanks / :y
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the spy pics of the 2007 c-class from autobild.de don't look so good though. I hope the 2007 c-class doesn't look like that.
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I think it is just a matter of time before we accept it and like it.
So does everyone feels W204 is only out in 2007? |
oh my god, the w204 better don't look like that, it can not be! well by then, im moving on to a CLK55 anyways but i feel sorry for people that will be buying it, i dont even care about the stats of the car if it has such a look!! Well, the car will be released sometime in august of 2006 such as it was the case with the new SLK, its a 2005 model, but its already out.
http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/50079.jpg http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/50078.jpg http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/50074.jpg COUPE http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/50075.jpg http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/50076.jpg COUPE CONVERTIBLE (SOFT TOP), ewww http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/50077.jpg THIS IS A HORIBLE CAR, I GUESS THE BEER FINALLY GOT TO THE GERMANS! http://autobild.de/suche/artikel.php?artikel_id=6182# |
honestly the more i see those pics they are growing on me. especially that coupe! :y
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it's going to take a bit longer for me to get used to those... I'll be definitely done with the C-Class by then... it's AMG for sure, next time !
and really, would you prefer a W204 built in SOUTH AFRICA over one built in GERMANY ? :nix: |
Originally Posted by Saprissa
it's going to take a bit longer for me to get used to those... I'll be definitely done with the C-Class by then... it's AMG for sure, next time !
and really, would you prefer a W204 built in SOUTH AFRICA over one built in GERMANY ? :nix: |
Originally Posted by miroj
I dont think W203 for RHD is built in Germany anyway so what difference does it make to the rest of us.
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Anyway, i guess we don't have much choice, since S.A already got the deal to produce the W204.
You guys are luckier, from where i come, the price of cars are double as compared to USA, plus those cars are not even from S.A or Germany, they were assembled local. |
The W204 C-class is already enabled in my stardiagnose...cn't take that long anymore for the cars to be seen every now and then...
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wow the front starting to look like a honda accord! =P
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Official w204 thread - Updated 9/21/06
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in this pic from autospies.com, the front end looks much better than the computer-generated pic from autobild.de
more at http://autospies.com/article/index.asp?articleId=3654 |
That looks kinda cheap.
By the way, that's also a computer generated picture. |
Definitely Photoshop. Don't take it as any indication of what the W204 will look like. The S-Class W221 is due out way before the W204, and yet there are still no legit spy shots of it without heavy stealth cladding. W204 is probably not even being tested in public yet. There's no way in hell they let the marketing people take PR photos of it yet.
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you guys are probably right. the headlights in this pic, they resemble the ones from the slk350, don't you think ? I don't like the mb grill on the autobild.de pic. it looks too big. the one on this pic is okay.
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look at the fogs.. almost looks like an IS300
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What the hell is that?
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autospies.com got the pic from this german car magazine.
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Autospies sucks. Where's the major scoop...they sub to a few euro mags, and then repost crappy quality scans on the AS site.
These guys have jumped the shark. There own smugness lately I find intolerable. |
What do you expect from AS. Afterall they sold out to advertisers. Plus most of the time the respective forums already have this info posted.
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Originally Posted by vraa
That looks kinda cheap.
By the way, that's also a computer generated picture. |
Originally Posted by Outland
Autospies sucks. Where's the major scoop...they sub to a few euro mags, and then repost crappy quality scans on the AS site.
These guys have jumped the shark. There own smugness lately I find intolerable. Still it is worth a glance since it is a gathering place for all the latest info from various automakers. |
The New 2007 W204 C Class ..
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It just closet to the real one....
still am not sure if its like this.. if that then its :y |
I have a mixed reaction toward this. I think it looks very nice, but on the other hand it does not look like an MB. I think they should go evolution and keep the round lights. W203 has a more classic and timeless look to it.
Compare to these pics, they look similar https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ght=2007+class |
I like it
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Very Nice !
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Looks too Japanese, especially with those Camry headlights.
The wagon looks too much like a Chrysler Pacifica. |
Hey did they change the design. I remember seeing pictures before and I always felt it looked like an Acura. But this one, damn, I like it.
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I don't like the front in the 1st 2 pics.
I like the back. The front in the last pic is also more agreeable. Actually it looks like a bangle front. The 1st 2 fronts look just like the camry/lexus POS fronts.
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I Like It!
It looks like a cross between a S-Class and an W211. IMO better looking than the upcoming BMW E90. :y
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I really like it, only complaint is that they better hold off on making the headlights any bigger or it will look as ugly as the Lexus ES class. Points that I like, they are going with the current "trend" in making the side windows smaller vertically and sloping the door lines down to make it look more agressive. The rear doesn't look as stale as the current model and goes with more of their higher end models. It seems as though they are doing what BMW did and redoing the entire line in a similar look.
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Looks like there are some CLS influences there.
Will have to see it when it comes out but I think it looks good. |
Look closer - the sedan is not even the same car on different pictures. These are graphic art renditions once again.
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Originally Posted by wblynch
Looks too Japanese, especially with those Camry headlights.
The wagon looks too much like a Chrysler Pacifica. |
wow, these "pictures" are now getting me to like it! it looks pretty good in these pics. I'm starting to imagine how the new C55 will look. Hopefully in late 2007, I'll have the ends to trade in my '05 C230k for the big boi '08 55 AMG.
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Originally Posted by nlpamg
wow, these "pictures" are now getting me to like it! it looks pretty good in these pics. I'm starting to imagine how the new C55 will look. Hopefully in late 2007, I'll have the ends to trade in my '05 C230k for the big boi '08 55 AMG.
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Originally Posted by mick1
don't you think the car in the pics looks a little bigger than our cars ? :)
it does look very cls ish though... good stuff. can't wait to see actual pics and official stuff from mb, but it'll make our w203's drop in price. :hammer: |
looks like renditions, but that loooks KILLER!
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these look like renderings for the next E class....not C
the wheel base looks longer, the headlights are more like modified S then SLK...and the last sedan pic is old news - faked and shopped by some British car mag |
if the next c-class looks like that :y , very nice, looks like a mini CLS. I'd be surprised if they use this design, though, bcs the c usually looks like a baby s-class, but you never know :nix:
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kinda looks like a CLS. :confused:
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Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
kinda looks like a CLS. :confused:
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the next gen benz designs will all be derived from CLS design.
I can guarantee you that much ;) |
Originally Posted by Sauceboy01
the next gen benz designs will all be derived from CLS design.
I can guarantee you that much ;) |
I love the CLS because its a nice experiment and doesnt replace anything in the MB line up. ITs different than other MB models and its overall distintictive. However if they make design all their cars with CLS cues it will dilute the original power the CLS currently has. When everything looks the same it gets boring.
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And the engines will be:
petrol: c250 2.5 204bhp c300 3.0 231bhp c350 3.5 258bhp c55 AMG 5.5 v8 >400bhp diesel: c180 2.0 CDI 150bhp c200 2.0 CDI 177bhp c220 2.2 CDI 204bhp (the same as a 320CDI!!! the 2005 c220 version have 150bhp :hammer: ) :crazy: And will also exist a hybrid model!!! |
i sure hope mercedes will continue to offer manual transmissions on these new models.
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Wow! That is one tough looking ride; definitly better than the E90.
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Originally Posted by markseven
Wow! That is one tough looking ride; definitly better than the E90.
-Mark |
I really like the new benz... looks like a car with attidude. Get out of my way now and make way for me. haha Atleast it doesn't look like a sad panda bear like the current C Class does now.
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body shape seems almost like Lexus, and the light shape looks sharp...i like the aggressiveness, wagon ....i don't really care for...
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Originally Posted by rockintunes23
I really like the new benz... looks like a car with attidude. Get out of my way now and make way for me. haha Atleast it doesn't look like a sad panda bear like the current C Class does now.
I think my w203 has more "personality" and looks much more "muscular" than my old w202 though, but I never associated them with animals... I love the curves of the w203, and if they can just keep adding to the agressiveness with the upcoming model, that would be awesome! |
I cant wait till it comes out. Its going to be great!! I wonder what type of engine they will be using. I hope they get rid of that garbage 1.8L junk. Im sure they will do the 3.5 on the new C350.
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Originally Posted by Verb04
I cant wait till it comes out. Its going to be great!! I wonder what type of engine they will be using. I hope they get rid of that garbage 1.8L junk. Im sure they will do the 3.5 on the new C350.
Then again - even now, you are not forced to buy the 1.8L, are you? And what exactly makes it "garbage junk"? It is better in every respect than your 2.6L V6. |
I agree, the 2.6L is got to be the worst Engine I have ever driven. Alot worse then the 1.8K. But when I was ready to purchase my car the 1.8K was not out yet. (09-02) I just can't beleive that MB downgraded from a 2.3K to a 1.8K. I really hope they do something about it with the W204. Thats it. Look at the compeition. 2.0T,(Sabb, Audi) 2.5T (Volvo)
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2.6 is indeed horribly slow. 1.8 is almost as torqueless and uninspiring, but still decent. I liked the 2.3, Even though it sounded the worst and was unrefined, it had great power. I even now consider my 3.2 to be average. I need something with atleast 270 horses next time. the 350 should be wonderful, but its too late I need a V8.
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The 350 engine is now available in the E class here in Europe!
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I LOVE that coupe.
And what the hell is Acura by the way? I heard that name before... but can't remember the car. Will google it now. |
Originally Posted by Oil Change
I LOVE that coupe.
And what the hell is Acura by the way? I heard that name before... but can't remember the car. Will google it now. |
Yes, I see a little Bangle in this car. I like the coupe better than sedan. Hopefully the headlights will be different than the drawings.
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the c204 coupe
I've got to say that I kind of like the coupe. I must say though that they seriously need to keep the round headlights. That in my mind is a Mercedes signature. Also, they need to work on the tail lights. Maybe they could soften them like they did with the 05 tail lights.
I just hope the redesigned headlights are not accurate and that this is photoshopped or an early test car. |
I sincerely hope that those designs were photoshopped (which they are) and not the actual designs because quite frankly, they look hideous. The interior is bangled, the exterior is full of sharp lines, the car(s) has/have lost its/their elegance and the rear of the C coupe looks strange (the tailights need to go!). They will need a long time to get used to although I have faith that MB would never do anything too radical :rolleyes:. They should continue with the current C design because it looks really nice!
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Originally Posted by milkpowder
I sincerely hope that those designs were photoshopped (which they are) and not the actual designs because quite frankly, they look hideous. The interior is bangled, the exterior is full of sharp lines, the car(s) has/have lost its/their elegance and the rear of the C coupe looks strange (the tailights need to go!). They will need a long time to get used to although I have faith that MB would never do anything too radical :rolleyes:. They should continue with the current C design because it looks really nice!
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When a design looks good, as the current crop of MB vehicles demonstrate, evolution in design is preferable.
When a design looks bad, as the current crop of new BMW vehicles demonstrate, revolution in design is preferable. :hammer: I'm not sure I like the direction MB is taking with the spy shots and photochops of exterior and interior styling I've seen. Look kinda like an amalgam of BMW and Japanese styling in all the wrong places. |
Originally Posted by milkpowder
The interior is bangled...
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Originally Posted by Incendiary
Is the new W204 C-class going to have convertibles as part of its line-up, like the BMW 3-series and Audi A4 line-ups do? If so, does that mean the CLK line is going to be scrapped? :nix:
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Originally Posted by mctwin2kman
Just because it is still around does not mean it will be in the USA. Remember that every other country on the face of the Earth has many MB's we never see here. I still wish the C30 AMG or C32 AMG Coupes would have showed up here......
You think that re-design is bad go get the latest Car and Driver and see how they killed the G-Class..... I am so dissapointed in MB's choice of the way they want to go. Maybe they have not heard that no one likes the Bangle-ised BMW's!!!!!! |
C30 and C32 AMG coupes?
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what do you mean by bangled?
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what do you mean by bangled?
Mr. Bangle is the idiot behind the new BMW designs. |
Originally Posted by wblynch
"Bangled", a play on "mangled".
Mr. Bangle is the idiot behind the new BMW designs. Thanks much. It all makes sence now. Mecedes is changing the look of the cars not for the better and we all think, they are foolish for doin this. The curvy lines we have come to expect are being tossed by the way side for sharper angles like those on the Z4 roadster. personally I am not impressed with the new look. I know I posted earlier in this thread that I liked it, but that was before I had a chance to look it over and let it sink in. Does anyone have any information as to whether these pictures are just being floated to get initial reaction? If those pictures are just early ideas, we need to write MB and let them know that we, an MB owning group, do not like the new proposed design. |
I don't want to discourage you from writing their corporate headquarters, but unfortunately, they probably don't care as much about what current MB owners think as what the general public thinks. It's the same tack BMW took. And JD Power had a report some time ago about how cars that are controversial attract more attention from the press and therefore more public attention, which tends to translate into improved sales, than blander or more conservative designs.
I, too, would prefer the curvy and sleek designs MB has now, with some evolutionary touches. But if MB goes a different direction in design, make sure to vote with your wallet. :beat: |
Good point. I'm not so sure whether they actually don't care about our views, but it is fair enough that out of the ordinary designs do attract more press, talk and therefore curious customers. However, many people still buy cars by their looks. My mom thinks the Carrera GT and the New XJ look good and would therefore go and buy them (if we had the money :rolleyes: ) not for performance, but for looks and looks only. That's just my mom, so I can't say the same applies to the general public. However, controversial and ugly are CAN be two things. Ugly cars deter people while controversial AND handsome cars are alluring to those curious bunch. Take Lamborghini, their Murcielago is far from ordinary. It looks like nothing before. However, it does look very nice so well-heeled customers by them. I know that Lambo and MB are two different worlds, but this is my point: People expect Lambo to be the exotic make that produces radical designs, but they do not expect MB to come up with bizarre designs and therefore might be put off by them. Anyway, we'll let them do what they think is right.
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You guy's are funny. MB's have almost always been all straight lines and angular, with very few exceptions. I would have NEVER even considered the previous C class due to it's boxy, boring look. Only since 2000 has MB made their designs "curvy" and created their "signature" dual round headlights.
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Originally Posted by Jim Banville
You guy's are funny. MB's have almost always been all straight lines and angular, with very few exceptions. I would have NEVER even considered the previous C class due to it's boxy, boring look. Only since 2000 has MB made their designs "curvy" and created their "signature" dual round headlights.
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me, I was not into the Mercedes-Benzes in the past because I liked the looks of the BMWs better. Then came the Bangle designs. Now, I like Mercedes-Benzes better than BMWs.
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True, they were more boxy before, but so were cars in general. But here we are now, and it would suck to keep flopping back and forth, don't you think? Better from here on out to keep things evolutionary, as they were in the past.
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Originally Posted by Incendiary
C30 and C32 AMG coupes?
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Originally Posted by mctwin2kman
In Europe they have C32 AMG Sport Coupe's and the C30 CDI Turbo Diesel AMG Sport Coupe. The C30 has 225+ HP and over 400 Ft/lbs of tourque!
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Originally Posted by Incendiary
Still? Didn't see it on the German MB site...
Edit: Do a search for it! |
The C32 Coupe was even in one of the MBAMG catalogs and screensavers for 02 and 03. The C30 has been featured prominently in several magazine articles, as the C30 was initially a Coupe only machine. I'd love one. C'mon MBUSA, stop being so chicken****.
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Originally Posted by mctwin2kman
I think it was a special order on in Germany! I do not recall, it was in 2003.
Edit: Do a search for it! |
ON this site! It was talked about here in great detail and there were plenty of pictures of it.
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That looks as good as the actual car! Sad :(
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I was thinking better. Pretty obvious the round lights are gone. See ya benz! Its been fun!
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With that crap on it, looks like a tank. LOL
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Originally Posted by Outland
I was thinking better. Pretty obvious the round lights are gone. See ya benz! Its been fun!
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Originally Posted by vadim
Now that every car manufacturer has switched to projectors, round lenses are out of fashion. I doubt they will last long on CL, CLK and SL.
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I'm guessing this car is a 4matic from the snow kicking off the front wheels in photos 3, 4 and 8....so it looks like they S-classed the headlights, CLS'd the b-pillar back and kept a few lines from the current C-dan... Is that an intercooler below the license plate? I'd like to C more without the Cladding...but I guess time will tell when Sindelfingen is ready.
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Well at least we know it can make a U-turn....and man it looks armored maybe its the C Class Guard version :duh:
As for the round headlights, the industry will prob shift to LED headlights eventually which would allow greater flexibilty in front end design. Kinda like the shift from the sealed headlight units of the 80s to the plastic lens/seperate bulb set up we have now. |
Loomis Fargo / Brinks / Mercedes Benz
I know it's early and you can't tell jack from those pics but those photos just made me feel a lot better about my recent purchase....can't wait to see the naked pics when they come out... :zoom:
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nice bullet holes lol :zoom:
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Holly shnikees batman, someone stole the batmobile
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are thos some type of bullet proof case?!
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looks like MB hired mr. bungle
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yea, i dont mind them on the bmw, but not a benz, for god's sake not on a benz!
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i dont like it so far....but maybe it will look a lot better naked
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as for the round lights.....they changed it because Hyundai has them also....if u take the mb badge off......people would think you have a Hyundai...lol
im not liking the rear. . . as in the picture, it looks like the nissan maxima....but iono....to me, it looks like it is.... but we'll see the real ones :D |
they really have it disguised well!
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Even with that crap on it, The headlights are what it reminds me of with an Acura. Can anyone say, knock off? Looks like the designers at Benz took the headlights from them.
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Originally Posted by rockintunes23
Even with that crap on it, The headlights are what it reminds me of with an Acura. Can anyone say, knock off? Looks like the designers at Benz took the headlights from them.
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thats BMW or Mercedes?! looks more like a bmw
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2007-08 W204 in Armadillo skin
Has anyone else seen this article?
http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=8250 This is the very first sighting of the 2008 Mercedes C-Class and although it's heavily disguised, the timing is significant - indicating the W204 (as it's known by its internal codename) is right on schedule. The next generation C-Class will arrive in the 2007 calendar year, followed twelve months later by the wagon version. And although it's hard to tell from these pictures, the new C-Class is expected to be much sportier and no longer just a downsized S-Class, but a more modern Benz which hope to gain the attention of younger and less conservative buyers. The rear-wheel-drive sedan will be the first powered with Benz' KDI EVT (electronic valvetrain without camshafts; supercharged and direct-injected) engines, and will incorporate other new technologies including the third-generation 4Matic all-wheel-drive system. But as independent and modern as the new C-Class looks, it will be sharing even more component-wise with E- and S-Class models. |
repost times eleventy billion
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Next Generation C-Class
www.detnews.com/2005/autosconsumer/0503/23/G03-118301.htm From the Detroit News
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This topic has already been chatted about. Its coming out the end of this year and someone needs to inform that website, that they ARE WRONG.
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repost like woah
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The new engines are coming this year. Not the new C-Class. What does it take to convince??
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Originally Posted by silberrosa
The new engines are coming this year. Not the new C-Class. What does it take to convince??
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mbspy timeline says W204 is to be released in 2006 as a 2007 model.
i never read or heard anything about the W204 being released this year. http://www.mbspy.com/roadmap.htm |
The car is expected to go on sale at U.S. dealers later in the year as a 2008 model
I found that funny...doesnt even make sense, so in 2006 we'll be getting 2015 cars...amazing the advances in automotive technology |
"Mercedes-Benz is preparing a ground-up redesign of its compact C-Class model line, beginning with an all-new sedan that's due to arrive in Europe in spring 2007. The car is expected to go on sale at U.S. dealers later in the year as a 2008 model."
Later in the year refers to later in the year 2007 if one were to take that sentence into context properly. |
The W204 is due to be released in mid-2007 in Europe, Sept-Oct '07 here, designated as 2008 models.
Look, this ain't rocket science, and hardly qualifies as big news - MB has these cars on a 7-year cycle. The W203 appeared mid-year 2000 in the EU, and came here in October of 2000 as a 2001 model. Sounds like they are right on schedule to me. In the meantime, the W203 gets its final kicker in the fall in the form of the new 4-valve V6 engine family - no more 4 cylinders for our market. Even the entry-level car is going to be over 200 hp. The C350 will be terrific, of course, but vastly overpriced like the top-of-the-line always is. Since the W203 is now pretty well sorted out, the time from Oct '05 until the introduction of the new car seems like a good time to buy if you don't need to be the first on your block with the new body. |
im just chiming in what i read. some of you need to simmer down.
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Thank you JRCT for clearing up what should be obvious to most. There is no big mystery to these lifecycles but so many seem to think so. Thanks - Start the lines for the MY08 W204.
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I'd rather enjoy an arguably sorted out model for (m)
Originally Posted by jrct9454
The W204 is due to be released in mid-2007 in Europe, Sept-Oct '07 here, designated as 2008 models.
Look, this ain't rocket science, and hardly qualifies as big news - MB has these cars on a 7-year cycle. The W203 appeared mid-year 2000 in the EU, and came here in October of 2000 as a 2001 model. Sounds like they are right on schedule to me. In the meantime, the W203 gets its final kicker in the fall in the form of the new 4-valve V6 engine family - no more 4 cylinders for our market. Even the entry-level car is going to be over 200 hp. The C350 will be terrific, of course, but vastly overpriced like the top-of-the-line always is. Since the W203 is now pretty well sorted out, the time from Oct '05 until the introduction of the new car seems like a good time to buy if you don't need to be the first on your block with the new body. |
W204 Official Pictures (2007 MB C Class Sedan)
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Design Phase Complete...In Secondary Testing Phase |
So they turn into a CLS ? :crazy:
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Just great- a CLS clone and no side moldings (m)
Don't these people live in the real world where side moldings make a difference? :crazy: Looks like MB has fallen prey to the same "form over substance" disease now afflicting BMW.
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looks like poop. i like the mirrors though :)
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Originally Posted by Mason00
W204 Official Pictures (2007 MB C Class Sedan)
Design Phase Complete...In Secondary Testing Phase BTW these are old pics https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...mixed+reaction |
looks like photochop..
..but not horrible..
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Aha!
sorry mason00, i dont have an ax to grind against you, but i just happened to google 'w204 pics' and quickly got there..shows where these 2 pics came from.
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Originally Posted by jago1244
sorry mason00, i dont have an ax to grind against you, but i just happened to google 'w204 pics' and quickly got there..shows where these 2 pics came from.
proof that these are photochops |
Originally Posted by Mason00
Just testing the smarts of the board members.
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Originally Posted by Mason00
Just testing the smarts of the board members. Good job...Real fast catch time. Less than 1 hour :y
i hope it doesn't look like that. |
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Originally Posted by ctC230K
lol nice attempt at a cover up. :beat:
i hope it doesn't look like that. |
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Originally Posted by Mason00
:y
Post more models. |
This is a very strange thread! First he knowingly posts obviously photoshopped pics that have been posted before, then he just starts posting various pics that have nothing to do with the W204 :crazy:
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The 'nonW204" pics are a lot better. Keep up the good work.
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Originally Posted by Mason00
:y
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...id=48865&stc=1 with some hot chick https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...id=48866&stc=1 and who's car is that? looks great :cool: |
Hey Mason00 if I buy your car would I get the women with it? Nice pics
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that white C belongs to Enrique "LorinserCClass"
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Um I kinda like the photoshop pics. Seen them before and I actually would like to see the C class look like that. Looks way more expensive than the w203. Hot cls look. Hey Id prefer that CLS look over the bangle-mania BMW's.
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BTW I love it when I see an ASIAN girl with an A ss like that!
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Originally Posted by FrankW
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Originally Posted by ctC230K
haha random thread...
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...id=48866&stc=1 and who's car is that? looks great :cool: |
The thread does suck, but the asian girls ass makes it all worth while :y
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The above picture isn't the real 06 C class. I have already test drove the car in Germany. As what the previous person said, its a fake and probably a photoshop CRAP picture. Compare it to the CLS and you can see that the person did not do a very good job in creating it. Grow up LOSER.
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Originally Posted by nicedeboy
I have already test drove the car in Germany. [/B]
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Originally Posted by nicedeboy
The above picture isn't the real 06 C class. I have already test drove the car in Germany. As what the previous person said, its a fake and probably a photoshop CRAP picture. Compare it to the CLS and you can see that the person did not do a very good job in creating it. Grow up LOSER.
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Originally Posted by inFiniTE LooP
it's in the C class picture thread, i remember seein it from a little while ago...i forget who it belongs to though
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It's a shame that those pics were not legit...I kinda of like that look, those for sure were the best fake pics I have seen of the new c-class / but I like!
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Originally Posted by essa
Hey...that's my car.:cool:.. But it doesn't have tinted windows though :confused:.... Now I'm sure that I wil not get my windows tinted :y Thanks for showing me how it will looks with the windows tinted
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Originally Posted by MCONDE01
It's a shame that those pics were not legit...I kinda of like that look, those for sure were the best fake pics I have seen of the new c-class / but I like!
huh ?? It looks like the CLS which is currently on sale..why would MB make two cars that look almost identical :crazy: |
rear end looks phat, but I could do without the head lights...
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Originally Posted by respdoc
huh ??
It looks like the CLS which is currently on sale..why would MB make two cars that look almost identical :crazy: follow the equation: my opinion does not = yours.....get over it!... :crazy: :wwf: :crazy: ok, now I am done venting.... Have a nice day :y |
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am i the only one that thinks the CLS looks like a nissan maxima?
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Originally Posted by inFiniTE LooP
am i the only one that thinks the CLS looks like a nissan maxima?
maybe it's just the roof line or something From that angle, viewing in a picture or on the road, yes, it looks like a Maxima. From a 360 degree perspective, either viewing on a computer or in person, the CLS looks nothing of a Maxima. Very far from it. :y |
cls looks way better. cant u even tell?? :hammer:
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ok, why are the pictures of these testing cars always taken in a snowing area?!
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Why am I looking at a masked up Cadallic? Geese Ill just go take a pic of the one in my grandmother's garage and show ya what this 'W204' looks like uncovered :rolleyes:
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that camouflage kit is cool in that with it covering the whole car, nobody would have to worry about dents and scratches. If I had that car, I would park it right next to the shopping cart area in the supermarket parking lot :)
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relax people. with all the cladding on, you cant even see the lines. we'll just have to wait and see.
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This is going to be more awful than the Kia 530i.
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2008 w204 information...
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/1...daryphoto4.jpg
2008 Mercedes-Benz C-Class Date Posted 05-26-2005 The 2008 Mercedes-Benz C-Class isn't due until the spring of 2007, but as our latest spy video shows cold-weather testing is already well underway. Although the full-body camouflage hides the important details, it's easy to see that this C-Class will wear a much sleeker shape than the current model. Most observers expect a C-Class sedan with more angular headlights and a tightly cropped rear end reminiscent of the new CLS sedan. A larger size is almost guaranteed as its arch rival, the 2006 BMW 3 Series, has recently grown to provide more room for adults in back. Interior details are still unknown, but given that the 2006 S-Class will get an iDrive-type controller it won't be too surprising to find one added to the C-Class. A wide range of engines are on tap for Mercedes' new entry-level sedan although the current use of four-cylinder power plants is being reconsidered given their downmarket connotation in the U.S. The current 3.5-liter V6 used in the E-Class and M-Class vehicles is likely along with an even more powerful version of the current 5.5-liter V8 in the C55. An article in the German magazine AutoBild suggests that the normally aspirated V8 will have as much as 402 horsepower while a range-topping 6.3-liter V8 could offer 470 horses. Tasty details for sure, but given that the 2008 C-Class isn't expected to go on sale until the spring of 2007, and the fact that it will be facing newer competitors like the 2005 Audi A4 and 2006 Lexus IS 350, the C-Class is going to need all the help it can get. http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=105774 :) |
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awww man :( :D
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I thought the w204 was due as a 2007 model, this article suggests that it will be a 2008 model... what gives? :nix:
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The V8 AMG is due out in 08. Take notice they don't say anything about the V6? Its what MB did back in 01. They didn't release the new AMG body version until 02 year models.
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Originally Posted by nlpamg
I thought the w204 was due as a 2007 model, this article suggests that it will be a 2008 model... what gives? :nix:
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Well whenever it will be released.... I don't care that artists rendition of the new c class looks is amazing. Hands down it top s the new 3 series and the current c design. Looks much bigger too and with a more powerful engine and sleeker ......ummmmmm looks like I'll be with MB for quite a while :y Lets just hope the new design really is close to that artist's rendition.
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the w204 is not nearly done yet.. they are still in testing phase which will not be done until end of this year then go into first line of production, trust me i know as i have driven them hehehehe. The turbo diesel model is bad ass.. the FMIC looks fuggin huge :-) :zoom:
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i really like the coupe. i think it looks HOT! especially the headlights!
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Originally Posted by dmatre
Does anyone else find the styling of the sedan to be somewhat subdued "Bangle-ation" of the C-Class? I hope this isn't a sign of things to come for all of MB's lines.
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Originally Posted by David N.
You know what's funny? All the guys on the bimmer boards are saying how they are so digusted by bangles designs that they are going to switch to MB. After these pics make their way over there, I doubt they'll want an MB either. :D :lol
As for the car itself, it looks like crap. It must be a photoshop. It's still too early to know for sure what the real car will look like. MB needs to evolve the current design, not change it completely. These pics represent a change that is as radical as the 202 to 203 change. Not necessary IMHO. David. |
Originally Posted by JDM
......I completely agree with that. Whatever happened to leaving something good alone for 10 or 15 years?
However, now that the clones are more established, some of them, namely infinity, are developing there own style, own DNA. Lexus keeps telling us they will, but those cars aren't here yet. Acura, oddly enough, seems to be de-evolving- its cars simply look more and more like the domestic appliances that spawned them. So, although in the past they needed to re-invent themselves, I do not think that's the case now. MB's current design language certainly has a lot of life left in it. What's coming up, IMHO, its ****. And its **** because there new head designer is just looking to put his stamp on MB styling...not because there is a real demand for change. I would love to see second generation cars based on the current language. The current Coupe owes much of its look to the SL. I'd like to see a version that caries that even further, more slope to the nose, and more sculpting to the sides like the SLR carries. Similarly, the CLS shapes could be merged with the current W203 Sedan shape...and we'd be thilled. I can't say I was always a fan of the sedan shape, but with the latest changes, and with some nice rims, I think its evolved into the best looking small luxo/sporty sedan out there. The new 3 is just plain dull. The ES is still dull, and the G35 sedan's look already has wear holes in the material. New A4 is just the old shape with a guppy mouth. American car companies have changed models from year to year for decades. The new body GM truck get new grills, and headlights every six months. Never for the better, just for the different. Sucks. Everything is so disposable, regardless of cost. |
revolution is inevitable...MB made a revolution jump from w124 to w210, w202 to w203, bulky S to current S class, and it was well over 10 years ago. it's time they do something different.
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The current S is only about 5 years old.
The design language they have now was more or less introduced on the CL/S. The oval lights on the E were the only thing that predated the current styling. Its too early to shift gears. This build should have been evolution, not revolution. The new CLS and SLK were likely cooked under the old head stylist, and only minor changes could have been made by the new regime. I'm not looking forward to the new rides. It seems all the European makes just want to **** all over their designs lately. BMW is doing the Kia meets Pontiac thing, Audi is sticking the uggly fireplace grille on its cars, and now Benz has gone to the crapper. Even VW has taken an ugly turn. New Jetta is just stupid looking. Looks like a sentra with a chrome sports bra. One german company however, is getting it right. Opel. New cars look great! We don't get them here...yet. All the new Saturns are basically Opels with mild changes. Can't wait. Perhaps a new Sky or an Aura to replace my Benzo. |
is that convertible the clk???
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I think revolution is a good move. You gotta change the design to make it stand out. Other manufacturers have copied the current MB theme for too long. It dilutes the styling.
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Originally Posted by Outland
The C32 Coupe was even in one of the MBAMG catalogs and screensavers for 02 and 03. The C30 has been featured prominently in several magazine articles, as the C30 was initially a Coupe only machine. I'd love one. C'mon MBUSA, stop being so chicken****.
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Originally Posted by Imperial C320
I think revolution is a good move. You gotta change the design to make it stand out. Other manufacturers have copied the current MB theme for too long. It dilutes the styling.
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I gotta agree with Outland. Revolution is a generation too early. BMW does evolution, revolution, evolution, revolution for major facelifts. Or at least, they used to. I prefer evolution, evolution, evolution, or at least when the design and styling has been good, as it has for this current generation for MB. Evolution would have been welcome for the next generation, at least in my book.
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NEW Less Disguised Pics of W204 C-class!!!
Here's the link:
http://www.germancarzone.com/showthr...3&page=9&pp=10 Scroll on down through the page where you'll see minimal disguise on a set of pics and then some new pics by Scoochythatone(famous for MB spy photos) where you'll see a glimpse of the interior. Now my opinion: The new minimally disguised photos scare because they seem very close to the photoshops done by Huckfeldt of Autobild, which are bland and simply boring. I just can't believe that MB would also this to take place because he obviously has inside info that lead him to these. It's just NUTS!!! :hammer: :beat: :duh: Conclusion: the new C looks like one to dissapoint! :mad: |
thanks for the link. I am disappointed with the new design too. However, at least it doesn't appear as controversial looking as the new S-class.
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no way it will look like this in real life, they can do beter then that. :mad:
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it reminds me of a cadillac CTS for some reason.....maybe just the front.
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Glad i got a 2006. Perhaps by the time i go to trade in this, they will have advanced past that design.
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I like the front but the back is disgusting :mad:
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Originally Posted by Abspara
Glad i got a 2006. Perhaps by the time i go to trade in this, they will have advanced past that design.
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Ewww. Yuck. Nasty.
Bout the only nice features are the wide prominent grille, and the sporty looking air dam under the nose...the rest is ****. Overall, it looks like a conservative (even more so) Acura RL....with a full diaper rear end. Farkin MB...had to ruin it. I really hope this is just another bad Photoshop. |
that's a big grille :naughty:
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Originally Posted by MBFanatic4Life
Here's the link:
http://www.germancarzone.com/showthr...3&page=9&pp=10 Scroll on down through the page where you'll see minimal disguise on a set of pics and then some new pics by Scoochythatone(famous for MB spy photos) where you'll see a glimpse of the interior. Now my opinion: The new minimally disguised photos scare because they seem very close to the photoshops done by Huckfeldt of Autobild, which are bland and simply boring. I just can't believe that MB would also this to take place because he obviously has inside info that lead him to these. It's just NUTS!!! :hammer: :beat: :duh: Conclusion: the new C looks like one to dissapoint! :mad: |
Looks just like my sister's Acura TL
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Originally Posted by mick1
thanks for the link. I am disappointed with the new design too. However, at least it doesn't appear as controversial looking as the new S-class.
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You dont like the new S class mick? I love it. :y
The taillights and the 7-series style trunk bother me. they look odd and I can't get used to looking at them. I saw the pics of the 2009 bmw 7-series at autobild.de and even BMW won't design a trunk like that anymore. I guess, they found out people don't like it so much :) |
damn, **** you MB
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Thats why my next move is going to be the Cls500 amg package .
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Winning looks
Strong frontal appearance with an agressive stance. I think it'll be a little different in the back though. Overall it should be a winner and great seller. We'll see in about 1.75 years.
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Originally Posted by mick1
The taillights and the 7-series style trunk bother me. they look odd and I can't get used to looking at them.
I saw the pics of the 2009 bmw 7-series at autobild.de and even BMW won't design a trunk like that anymore. I guess, they found out people don't like it so much :) And if that ugly BMW meets Stratus/Breeze tail wasn't enough...the damn thing even looks like the ugly 7 series on the inside. MB styling is farked, unless there's some serious home runs coming that we don't know about yet. |
They gotta go with the C-class headlights. Gotta be round. It think it gives a unique look to the car. Here's to hoping they'll scrap that crappy headlight design for the original.
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Originally Posted by SwedeMercedes
Strong frontal appearance with an agressive stance. I think it'll be a little different in the back though. Overall it should be a winner and great seller. We'll see in about 1.75 years.
DaimlerChrysler to cut Mercedes C-Class production 12.05.2005, 03:19 AM FRANKFURT (AFX) - DaimlerChrysler AG is cutting back the output of Mercedes-Benz C-Class cars in the main production facility in Sindelfingen from January, Handelsblatt said, citing a company spokesman. It said the spokesman declined to give any reasons for the decision. The report added that although it is normal for a car to post declining sales towards the end of a 7-year life cycle, sales of the C-Class have fallen more steeply than expected. A new C-Class will be launched in two years. In the first ten months of this year, C-Class sales have declined by 13 pct to 335,600 units. from: http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/...fx2368432.html |
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Originally Posted by mick1
The taillights and the 7-series style trunk bother me. they look odd and I can't get used to looking at them.
I saw the pics of the 2009 bmw 7-series at autobild.de and even BMW won't design a trunk like that anymore. I guess, they found out people don't like it so much :) Whats not to love? I love the New S Class :y http://www.rustalk.com/motor/plakat/...nt/800x600.jpg |
that is an awesome Carlsson S class
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hate the back, and oh by the way, those are some sick rims on that S, anyone know what kind they are?
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You know what would be cool on the Black S class pic above if the black strips above and below the clear tail brake lights if they you could type messages like STOP or tell the person behind you to turn off there brights, or tell the person behind to gett off your butt and go around you. Ofcourse this would be done by the computer in ther car with voice command. It could even be linked to your navigation system telling the person that you will be exiting in 1/2 mile for example.
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I love the new S-class S500 380hp...more powerful than current 5.5 NA amg v8...no wonder AMG's moving to 6.3 :naughty: it's scary how cars are going faster and faster...
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I don't like the way the fenders flare... the front fenders remind me of an RX-8
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I think the new C looks quite nice. And i'm sure the rear will look a little better than the photo IMO. The interior also looks nice.
People just need to get use to the new look, just like the new S. Before the new S came out publicly, people said it's ugly, now that it's out, people are starting to like it. Just wait and see, i'm sure MB will do a nice job. Oh, btw, i just saw the new S today in Cape Town,SA. It sure looks good. :y |
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Thanks a bunch Vivaki! You always do find the best spy photos...like when the GCF forums were still alive! If you find more like maybe some interior shots please post them here as well. Thanks!!!:)
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one more...plus estate version as well:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...lass_Sedan.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../C_Class_T.jpg (Carpassion) |
Originally Posted by MBFanatic4Life
Thanks a bunch Vivaki! You always do find the best spy photos...like when the GCF forums were still alive! If you find more like maybe some interior shots please post them here as well. Thanks!!!:)
here's the closest we've got to the interior: http://autocar.co.uk//Car/Mercedes-B...3555643130.jpg |
I just noticed how large the gauges are and they have chrome trim rings! That's cool!:)
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I like the new C-Class and can't wait til 07. Yes I know that the new c-class looks a little like the new BMW, Acura TL, Toyota Avalon and new S-class design. But that is the new direction/future of the luxury cars. At least I have some time to save money for the purchase.
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I don't like it. Looks like an Acura to me and if I wanted an Acura...well...I would buy an Acura. I am thinking maybe a CLK for 2007
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hey here are some more pictures I came across:
http://www.c-registry.com/forums/att...1&d=1134572074 http://www.c-registry.com/forums/att...1&d=1134572120 http://www.c-registry.com/forums/att...1&d=1134572120 and theres a ton more spy pics here, at this link : http://www.c-registry.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13 |
Originally Posted by marcusv3
hey here are some more pictures I came across:
http://www.c-registry.com/forums/att...1&d=1134572074 http://www.c-registry.com/forums/att...1&d=1134572120 http://www.c-registry.com/forums/att...1&d=1134572120 and theres a ton more spy pics here, at this link : http://www.c-registry.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13 |
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W204 Video Clip.. Must see ;)
Amazing handling and looks more wide...
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/website/video.php?id=63239 Enjoy this test.. |
Very nice clip! This made my dull Thursday :-)... Although even with how its starting to look, wider, etc... I still love my w203 styling the best...
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dammit, wont work on my Work Computer.. will have to wait till i get home.. DAMN!
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I found it very hard to get a good idea of what the car will look like with all that cladding/tape on it. Does look wide though!
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Originally Posted by Turbo2
I found it very hard to get a good idea of what the car will look like with all that cladding/tape on it. Does look wide though!
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Haha, very good point, but let's hope not! But then on the other hand, that will make our W203's that much more valuable to us and to potential buyers, so maybe it should look like a Charger!
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wow.... very interesting.... cant wait till the coupes come out =T been waiting for it
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Nice clip, the pic at the end looks pretty cool too.
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Awesome! :cool: Does anyone know if this will be a 2007 or 2008 model?
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2008. The cladding is highly effective i'll tell you that much.. dammit! I cant wait to see what MB will do w/ the w204!
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Originally Posted by Sauceboy01
2008. The cladding is highly effective i'll tell you that much.. dammit! I cant wait to see what MB will do w/ the w204!
Just trying to be open minded. Don't hate me because I said it first. |
i think mercedes shot and released this spy video clip. The video was too well filmed to be coming from a spy video photographer. If it did come from such a person, then he's a genius.
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Originally Posted by Outland
If it looks anything like the spy photos Ive seen so far, I hate it. :y
Just trying to be open minded. Don't hate me because I said it first. Just being extremely Optimistic :crazy: |
Originally Posted by Sauceboy01
Honestly, i think it's going to look much better then The Spy Photos..
Just being extremely Optimistic :crazy: |
nice clip! yeah can't wait to see the actual body when they're done.
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and the convertible..
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I just don't like the rear of the W204(tail lights) , front looks fine tho !!
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Why would they move away from the figure 8 headlights that look so good?
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Originally Posted by soljaime
Why would they move away from the figure 8 headlights that look so good?
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W204 Introduction
The W204 is scheduled to be introduced this September at the Paris Auto Show
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Kool beans, cant wait to see it.
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Damn... looks like we've got another 8 months to go! :wall:
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http://automobilemag.com/2007_sneak_...s_cclass_1.jpg
Also, found this.. looks like a photoshop, but hey one step closer to what it may look like. :y |
So if its not going to debut until September, does that mean its going to be 2008 (delivery starting in May/June)?
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Originally Posted by Sauceboy01
http://automobilemag.com/2007_sneak_...s_cclass_1.jpg
Also, found this.. looks like a photoshop, but hey one step closer to what it may look like. :y look, hood star and grill star. but, I'm sure it's not too far off--a mix of the new S-Class and CLS... |
There was no word when the W204 would be in the US. Based on past introductions it will probably be in the spring of 2007 as a 2008 model in the US
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Originally Posted by Sauceboy01
http://automobilemag.com/2007_sneak_...s_cclass_1.jpg
Also, found this.. looks like a photoshop, but hey one step closer to what it may look like. :y |
"Additional spy photos taken away from the test track reveal a modest rear-end design that incorporates some elements of the latest S-Class. A quick shot of another prototype with the hood open revealed nothing shocking as it looked to have Mercedes' latest 3.5-liter V6 providing the power. Assume there will be the usual options for either manual or automatic transmissions."
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=109192 |
Originally Posted by Sauceboy01
http://automobilemag.com/2007_sneak_...s_cclass_1.jpg
Also, found this.. looks like a photoshop, but hey one step closer to what it may look like. :y |
Originally Posted by Sauceboy01
http://automobilemag.com/2007_sneak_...s_cclass_1.jpg
Also, found this.. looks like a photoshop, but hey one step closer to what it may look like. :y |
Originally Posted by Capt Nemo o2
I like everything but the front end. It just doesnt do it for me!
Compared to BMW's 3er, it looks dreamy |
my next car outta college will either be the new C or the new BMW 3-series. I hope its released soon.
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The new C will look identical to the S class, but smaller and with a bit less technology.
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Originally Posted by anonymouse
Compared to BMW's 3er, it looks dreamy
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actually i've seen a bunch fo those covered up new c-class around here in my home town (redondo beach, ca) sometimes i see them in 2's. problem is i never have my camera with me! argghhhhhh. they are much bigger than the current c-class, look 'beefier' but then again it could be all the black covers. now i have my camera with me at all times, just in case.
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Sweet.
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Originally Posted by Rorry
How about these:
http://www.discountpartcenter.com/ph...es-C-class.jpg http://www.discountpartcenter.com/ph...es-C-class.jpg |
Originally Posted by Rorry
How about these:
http://www.discountpartcenter.com/ph...es-C-class.jpg http://www.discountpartcenter.com/ph...es-C-class.jpg If it looks like that then I am DEFINITELY trading in my car. ***** - I might sell it tomorrow and drive the old mx-6 til that comes out |
Originally Posted by anonymouse
If it looks like that then I am DEFINITELY trading in my car. ***** - I might sell it tomorrow and drive the old mx-6 til that comes out
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Don't get too anxious about the arrival date of the W204 here in the US. Just remember that some new models in the past haven't appeared until fall. I hope it's March but don't make any plans until someone can tell us just when the US models will appear.
I have been wondering if MB will one of these days go back to the system they used to have some years ago where they deliver European models for up to a year before starting US deliveries. With MB's great concern about getting top quality ratings in the US they might want to be sure any new model is debugged before bringing them here. A recent case in point is that they were delivering the new S Class for European customers when I was at the factory last September. They are still not delivering the W212's here. Be patient. |
Originally Posted by MB-JIM
Don't get too anxious about the arrival date of the W204 here in the US. Just remember that some new models in the past haven't appeared until fall. I hope it's March but don't make any plans until someone can tell us just when the US models will appear.
I have been wondering if MB will one of these days go back to the system they used to have some years ago where they deliver European models for up to a year before starting US deliveries. With MB's great concern about getting top quality ratings in the US they might want to be sure any new model is debugged before bringing them here. A recent case in point is that they were delivering the new S Class for European customers when I was at the factory last September. They are still not delivering the W212's here. Be patient. what they need to do is standardise the model names. My C230 should be a C250. Labelling some cars in the line according to displacement but not others is rather assinine. |
MB is so late in bringing out the W204, by the time it gets here, the 330i, IS350, A4 probably all got a face lift.
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Originally Posted by MB-JIM
A recent case in point is that they were delivering the new S Class for European customers when I was at the factory last September. They are still not delivering the W212's here.
Be patient. |
Originally Posted by Rorry
How about these:
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Originally Posted by mick1
MB is so late in bringing out the W204, by the time it gets here, the 330i, IS350, A4 probably all got a face lift.
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Originally Posted by nlpamg
I'm cool w/that... my car will still be the "current" c-class for a little while longer. AND as much as I love the A4, they get facelifts more often than a beverly hills housewife....
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Damn, I'm actually liking it.
I guess our cars will be outdated soon. |
Originally Posted by BIGjohnny
Damn, I'm actually liking it.
I guess our cars will be outdated soon. |
Originally Posted by mick1
yep . But people say don't buy the 1st year model, so it's better to drive an outdated car than the latest car with 1st year's problems :)
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Something to keep in mind about all of these "first look" vehicles is that sometimes they are production trials vehicles that will never find thier way into the hands of a customer. They are used for several different things, and a lot of time they are used for training, but are not final spec. vehicles. So, it's not surprising that they aren't perfect. Hold your judgements until you see a production vehicle. Not to say that they are perfect, but don't judge the model line on a car that may be destined to be crushed one day.....
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Originally Posted by mbbodytech
Something to keep in mind about all of these "first look" vehicles is that sometimes they are production trials vehicles that will never find thier way into the hands of a customer.
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New grill
I certainly hope they will use that new grill from the spy pics because I really like the shape. It is more agressive and beefy looking. I have always said the mercedes either needed to get a more streamlined, sporty, aerodynamic front or a larger more agressive front instead of a mix of both. The mix of both types makes the car look tame and timid with it's small kind of stubby front end. BMW has it down pat with the large agressive fornt ends and I think M-B is starting to notice from their success.
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ive seen modded new s-classes and it looks great......can't wait to see the new c-class since it does look like a mini me version
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if it has the grille of the huckfeldt, and everything else of the one above it, would be absolutely perfect!
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so that's all we get huh? any newer pictures out lately?
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Originally Posted by Sauceboy01
so that's all we get huh? any newer pictures out lately?
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from germancarfans.com
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Mercedes-Benz is preparing an all-new C Class to debut in spring 2007. It will be a completely new model offering standard RWD and AWD as an option. Code-named W 204, the car will be available in four different styles, as sedan, station wagon, sports coupe and convertible. The next C-Class’ styling will adopt elements from the new S Class which debuted this year.
These photos are showing for the first time a prototype of the station wagon which is still disguised plus latest photos of the C-Class sedan. Power will come again from a variety of four- and newly developed six- cylinder engines. A sporty AMG version is in the pipeline, too. |
nice shots - it looks pretty big as well! seems almost E-class sized (from the 4th photo)
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New W204 Spy Pics ("New Mercedes C-Class Sheds Disguise on Autobahn")
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Hey is that the new S??? Oh, no its the new C, shocker! Looks good.
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New headlight design... booo!!!
Body looks nice and aggressive though. |
Im liking it. :y
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yep - that's it. Big fugly headlights.
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Originally Posted by benzmodz
yep - that's it. Big fugly headlights.
the pic at the website shows that the w204 got two exhaust pipes, one on each side. |
I see they have solved the brake dust problem. They have made the wheels look like they have not been washed in years!
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How boring. It looks like the Honda boys faxed over an RL design they thought was 'too agressive' for the luxury appliance division.
Those headlights are really awful. The clamshell hood is interesting. |
Originally Posted by mick1
the grill looks a lot wider too :)
the pic at the website shows that the w204 got two exhaust pipes, one on each side. |
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This is what they say it will look like.
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again....a mini s-class
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Originally Posted by superduper
This is what they say it will look like.
The trunk is much more vertical looking and the tail lights errrrmm ... average. The AMG logo will be on a metal trim strip with chrome and on the other side of the strip will be the engine. So now if you dont have the engine ..... the AMG trim will make no sense. As for the dual exhuast .... depends on the engine. |
Originally Posted by mick1
the grill looks a lot wider too :)
the pic at the website shows that the w204 got two exhaust pipes, one on each side. The headlights look good from the side but when you are in front of the car it looks like a Honda or GM car. |
Originally Posted by benzmodz
yep - that's it. Big fugly headlights.
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at least its better looking than the 3 (in my opinion)
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Originally Posted by white_w203
again....a mini s-class
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Originally Posted by MHPHOCKEY
at least its better looking than the 3 (in my opinion)
That wasn't a very high hurdle to jump |
Is the driver a midget or is the photochop job bad?
Cz
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Originally Posted by superduper
This is what they say it will look like.
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looks pretty good to me :y could have been more adventurous, but since Merc is going back to their roots, i guess that's not gona happen. if anyone's seen the B-class, i guess the front will look very similar.
i'm a bit worried about the rear lights though. not a big fan of more "vertical" rear lights... |
Originally Posted by benzmodz
The whole car is wider and taller. Like I said about 6 months ago ... I saw it in the flesh. It was a no camera day but these photos are the real thing.
The headlights look good from the side but when you are in front of the car it looks like a Honda or GM car. so, how did you get this miraculous opportunity? |
Not a c
Originally Posted by mick1
This Red Beaudeux is an S, you can see by the side view mirrors compare to the silver ones. anyone know when they will start selling the new C , is it a 2007 model :banned: ? |
Originally Posted by mbz4810
This Red Beaudeux is an S, you can see by the side view mirrors compare to the silver ones.
anyone know when they will start selling the new C , is it a 2007 model :banned: ? it should be available by august if not sooner according to an MB sales rep I talked to. the new 2007 redesigned model will be similar in price. |
ohhh new W204 PICS including Interior
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Okay i found this on the http://thehollywoodextra.blogspot.com/
check them out, not sure if i like, but the interior has improved..... |
Originally Posted by moosejaw
Okay i found this on the http://thehollywoodextra.blogspot.com/
check them out, not sure if i like, but the interior has improved..... |
back looks great...slk-ish. Interior is gross. I hope its better than that!
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Oh well Can't stay with MB forever, maybe I'll try BMW or Audi. I knew they would manage to f this car up. Damn it looks more like a females car than ever. Oh well
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I hate the way the steering wheel on the w221 looks and this is patterned the same way... lame.
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Exterior, still ugly. The rear is Acura RL Ugly.
Interior...egads, its really nasty looking. AND absolutely identical to the spy pics that have been floating around for what, 3 years!!!! |
Wow....if that's the new C, no more MB's for me...
Originally Posted by caliboy
Oh well Can't stay with MB forever, maybe I'll try BMW or Audi. I knew they would manage to f this car up. Damn it looks more like a females car than ever. Oh well
Methinks I'm gonna keep my W203 for a while....and save up for a 997TT... :y |
Originally Posted by Outland
Exterior, still ugly. The rear is Acura RL Ugly.
Interior...egads, its really nasty looking. AND absolutely identical to the spy pics that have been floating around for what, 3 years!!!! https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...id=77101&stc=1 https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...id=34562&stc=1 |
Looks like an Acura RL... :duh:
Glad I got an '06. |
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rear looks like a new S class to me. too bad it doesn't have the flared out fenders too though.
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you know what they say...
"it'll grow on you" sigh. flip :wwf: :wwf: :wwf: :wwf: :wwf: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: |
Originally Posted by mbny
rear looks like a new S class to me. too bad it doesn't have the flared out fenders too though.
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Originally Posted by mick1
Actually, the instrument dials are different.
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...id=77101&stc=1 https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...id=34562&stc=1 yeah, but its real. Most likely the exterior renditions are right on the money as well. YUCK YUCK YUCK!!! WTF is MB doing? I won't be buying another if it looks this bad. That interior could be right out of the seventies or eighties if it weren't for the slit for a cd. |
Originally Posted by Outland
yeah, but its real. Most likely the exterior renditions are right on the money as well. YUCK YUCK YUCK!!! WTF is MB doing? I won't be buying another if it looks this bad.
That interior could be right out of the seventies or eighties if it weren't for the slit for a cd. |
Originally Posted by mick1
Yep, I concur, it does not look too good. I think the interior of the new Volkswagen GTI MkV looks much better.
And, as a bonus, we get ugly interiors, asian styling, BMW trunklids, and, if you look closely, the car in the picture has an I drive, or whatever gay ass name the MB marketing hacks come up with to call the MB version of it...probably Mousetronic. On the plus side, the C350SE Coupe is getting great reviews in Europe and England...and I can't buy one....fricken MBUSA.... |
I think all the new Benz's have been designed very well, Especially the new MLs, i love it. The slk, the s class, the cls and the gl, are amazing designs. I really dont think we will be disappointed. I will reserve judgement till i see it in person.
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I hope that's not the new C. The rear looks too first-generation Acura CL. :(
The steering wheel looks awful too. |
I guess we can take solace in the fact that the new CL is even UGLIER. Looks like an accord that got fat.http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphot...317.001.1M.jpg
http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphot...001.mini1L.jpg |
All of those pics are photoshop fakes, confirmed over a year ago.
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the new S class looks nice...but if thats the new c... :wall: :wwf: :nix: makes the car look cheap....
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2008 C Class
here's the link for 2008 c class:
http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Mar06/2...dMLKClass.html I gotta say, it looks very nice! :y |
too round, i dont like it. the front is ok, bigger and more agressive, but i prefer the current model. IMO.
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Hyundaii i will have a ball with this..it will be much easier to copy. Unfortunately, like the S, it seems a little bland to me. The current styling screams Mercedes Benz, but the up and comming just kinda wispers it..
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still looks like Baby S to me...
MLK looks much better compared to X3 |
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TOYOTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :mad:
Makes us W203 owners appreciate our cars even more. :y |
The front looks good to me. I like the S-Class so I will like this one as well but the rear bumper isn't that great. I see the rear bumper being easily scratched and stuff.
The MLK is hot! I think it looks very agressive versus the X3. The X3 looks weak but this MLK looks muscular. :y |
this is nicer than most of the pictures circulating the web. Its definately a mini S, and Im sure the Amg kit on it will look pretty sweet.
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The front is hot cause it basically mimics the new S, which is on fire by the way, but the back is lacking. Reminds me too much of the toyota camry back. Kinda dissapointing. I'm not gonna criticize too much until I see official pics on the official MB website and also see it in person. Plus, Evil Duffman is right, the AMG sport package will prolly look hot as hell.
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Not feeling it
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Looks like ****. Bland city. Could be Acura if you replace the Grille. The MLK (supposedly this was to be called MLX before Lincoln went nuts with the crappy three letter names for all its cars) is even worse, it looks like the outgoing RAV4.
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The front looks very good!! I hope the rear will be much better in reality.
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Loves it.
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maybe in reality it will look better. i'm just hoping for a c-class diesel to come over to the US.
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the front is bland and the rear looks like an Acura CL.
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i've seen that picture many times, and yes it is a Photoshop..
we will wait and see what the real one will look like, then i will make my decision! |
ooooyyye... Not feeling it either. The front looks like an Acura and the rear looks like Camry.
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with all the comments here, it's funny how the design implies copying the Acura and Toyota's ;).
Isn't it also ironic those were the same comments when our current generation debuted, and now everyone thinks it looks like a goddess? |
Originally Posted by ultraseven
with all the comments here, it's funny how the design implies copying the Acura and Toyota's ;).
Isn't it also ironic those were the same comments when our current generation debuted, and now everyone thinks it looks like a goddess? |
Originally Posted by ultraseven
with all the comments here, it's funny how the design implies copying the Acura and Toyota's ;).
Isn't it also ironic those were the same comments when our current generation debuted, and now everyone thinks it looks like a goddess? I don't remember any such comments, nor do I see any resemblence, past or present in the Toyota or Honda line that resemble any of the 4 W203 cars. |
well, if the W204 doesn't turn out good, there's the 2008 Audi A5 :)
http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/s...lustration.jpg |
It looks like a Jap car to me. Whatever happened to European artwork. First BMW, now Mercedes. Is Jaguar the only company that uses clay to develop their art instead of letting a computer draw a robot?
I thought that car was a Lexus the first time I saw that picture. Uggh! And, no, I've never thought the current w203 looked like a Jap car. |
Originally Posted by mick1
well, if the W204 doesn't turn out good, there's the 2008 Audi A5 :)
http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/s...lustration.jpg Two downsides...the FWD, and that obnoxious Audi grille...but at least its distinctive...and NOT trying to imitate the weakest of the asian wanna be brands. |
Please stop using the word "jap"
Originally Posted by MBC320X
It looks like a Jap car to me. Whatever happened to European artwork. First BMW, now Mercedes. Is Jaguar the only company that uses clay to develop their art instead of letting a computer draw a robot?
I thought that car was a Lexus the first time I saw that picture. Uggh! And, no, I've never thought the current w203 looked like a Jap car. |
I agree, especially in this day and age...it can be hard though, as many of us grew up hearing our grandfathers refering to anything built over seas that way..probably no intention of rascism..
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Jap is short for Japanese just as Amer is short for American, Swede is short for Swedish, etc. etc. I don't have time to type everything out, nor should I have to. If you don't like it, don't read it. I don't see anyone aorund here getting pissed off that people type Swede.
And, BTW, I spend some time on a motorcycle forums and everyone uses Jap for short because a large majority of the bikes are made in Japan and most of the people there don't even think twice about it which is probably why I didn't. |
Originally Posted by MBC320X
Jap is short for Japanese just as Amer is short for American, Swede is short for Swedish, etc. etc. I don't have time to type everything out, nor should I have to. If you don't like it, don't read it. I don't see anyone aorund here getting pissed off that people type Swede.
And, BTW, I spend some time on a motorcycle forums and everyone uses Jap for short because a large majority of the bikes are made in Japan and most of the people there don't even think twice about it which is probably why I didn't. |
Originally Posted by JDM
I agree, especially in this day and age...it can be hard though, as many of us grew up hearing our grandfathers refering to anything built over seas that way..probably no intention of rascism..
of course not. Racism was all but eradicated in our grandparents' days... :rolleyes: |
Very nice and elegant , much better than the current C
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'08 C
the '08 C = NO WAY :wall: Very bland, and the back looks like a Daewoo
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Maybe MBWorld.org didn't exist back in '00, but those were some of the comments made, just like how the last gen S-class adopted "Camry-like taillights". Again, I will believe it when I see it.
As far as I can tell there are no rules disallowing the use of non-PC words. Last I've checked tuscanraider got banned for using n**. So terms potentially deemed offensive to all other races are acceptable. Let the bashing continue! |
Damn that CLS and it's effects. I don't like it cause I hate the CLS and subsequently the S-class and now this. Good God, someone needs to kick this guy's ass like they should do to Bangle.
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Originally Posted by Outland
I agree. Turn the PC **** off folks. Why do you have to assume the worst intentions.
oh I dont know, maybe because most people who use those terms are racist *******s perhaps? if you dont respect other people and who they are then what the **** value do YOU have? |
The front looks OK but the back does look like a Japanese car.
I'm Asian and I take offense to word 'Jap' because it's intended as derogatory in the context in which everyone is using the term. When you say "that looks like a Jap car." The term is not just an abbreviation for 'Japanese', it also infers inferiority. If you think the Japanese are inferior that's your opinion, but don't pretend that opinion is not rooted in racism. |
Originally Posted by C_Wagon
The front looks OK but the back does look like a Japanese car.
I'm Asian and I take offense to word 'Jap' because it's intended as derogatory in the context in which everyone is using the term. When you say "that looks like a Jap car." The term is not just an abbreviation for 'Japanese', it also infers inferiority. If you think the Japanese are inferior that's your opinion, but don't pretend that opinion is not rooted in racism. It's people like you who create racism on these boards. Take a hike! |
This thread should be closed and deleted...
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Originally Posted by mj50
still looks like Baby S to me...
MLK looks much better compared to X3 |
I don't know... it's not that bad, I've seen better but then again I really don't ever like much of anything when they first come out then the damn things grow on me, when the new A4's came out in 02' I think, I hated them, now they're one of my favorite bodystyles. They did mention it was to have the allmighty 6.3 ass whooper, but just wait till the aftermarket peeps start with the bodykits, in my opinion alot of cars look better with a good bodykit, it's like putting gel in your hair to tone down a bad haircut, I'm sure Brabus, Wald, Lorinser, Rieger & others won't let us down, besides, when you got mid 400 ponies pullin' your chariot who cares what the damn thing looks like!
P.S. - Racism sux people, I see it on BOTH SIDES of the river, it's bred from ignorance, lack of education & tolerance - whoever poseses it. |
Originally Posted by 1sikbenz
I don't know... it's not that bad, I've seen better but then again I really don't ever like much of anything when they first come out then the damn things grow on me, when the new A4's came out in 02' I think, I hated them, now they're one of my favorite bodystyles. They did mention it was to have the allmighty 6.3 ass whooper, but just wait till the aftermarket peeps start with the bodykits, in my opinion alot of cars look better with a good bodykit, it's like putting gel in your hair to tone down a bad haircut, I'm sure Brabus, Wald, Lorinser, Rieger & others won't let us down, besides, when you got mid 400 ponies pullin' your chariot who cares what the damn thing looks like!
P.S. - Racism sux people, I see it on BOTH SIDES of the river, it's bred from ignorance, lack of education & tolerance - whoever poseses it. Then again, I might move on from Mercedes-Benz. I totally agree with 1sikbenz's post script. It's ALL ABOUT A LACK OF EDUCATION. Where I'm from, I see the neavou riche with their big cars all the time often blaring their rap music through the windows. I wonder if they learned anything about decency from their parents. Can't stand poorly educated people. It's the only thing I'm snobby about and I'm not afraid to admit it. This thread reminds me of the American Concentration Camps. Shudder... |
Originally Posted by Sauceboy01
Shut your mouth and know your role buddy. You just made probably the stupidest comment i've ever read on these boards!! Who the hell do you think you are?? People aren't here to be racists! They're here to talk about cars! I'm sure whoever said it looks like a Jap car, didn't mean it in a racist manner, and was by no means trying to disgrace you, nor your race.
It's people like you who create racism on these boards. Take a hike! |
Originally Posted by mick1
well, if the W204 doesn't turn out good, there's the 2008 Audi A5 :)
http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/s...lustration.jpg I think i felt a stirring in my pants. I like the bold approach Audi has been making |
What's that Audi's drive train gonna be like? - It looks kinda big, is it bigger than the A4, I guess it would be, it's an A5 right?
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mmmm I hope thats a W12 under that large hood
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Originally Posted by anonymouse
the front is bland and the rear looks like an Acura CL.
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It's no wonder I stopped frequenting this C Class forum. A bunch of whining, runny nosed kids who can't keep their minds on the cars if there is an opportunity to whine.
"Mommy! He used a word that in the eyes of some self conscious child like me, could have a perceived negative connotation, so naturally I assumed the negative." Grow up! |
Originally Posted by anonymouse
Sorry to say to but white people kill me when they say this (and it is only white people who do this). Dude has no clue who made the initial comment but he is convinced that it was made without any malice whatsoever. And to add insult to injury, he accuses the person who ojected to the racist term of being a racist. Ain't life grand?
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Originally Posted by tyro
And that ain't racist???:crazy:
But your'e right, he shouldn't assume the jackass who made the comment was white. Regardless of "Sauceboy01"s color it was a jackass comment. Because I get offended by the use of 'Jap' as a derogative, I should be censored. :rolleyes: I guess you guys are too young to remember the American 'Japs' who were sent to camps during WW2. |
Originally Posted by digital_b
oh I dont know, maybe because most people who use those terms are racist *******s perhaps? if you dont respect other people and who they are then what the **** value do YOU have?
Being oversensitive and pointing out everything you think is racist or offensive is just bull****... people say or post things pretty often that for one reason or another someone else isn't gonna like. People say things every frickin day that's offensive...to me, to you...to someone. Some of its gender based, some of its ignorance, some of its frustration, some of it is just joking around, some of it is just people being people, and yes, some of it is racist. That's life. I don't disagree with much of the sentiment here, but I don't think we all have the right to assume there's malice or its intentionally meant to degrade or insult someone. This is the internet. You don't always have the full picture based on often quickly typed responses. But You want to discuss racism. Fine. Its off topic and belongs there. Some actual car discussion would nice now. |
Originally Posted by davis449
Damn that CLS and it's effects. I don't like it cause I hate the CLS and subsequently the S-class and now this. Good God, someone needs to kick this guy's ass like they should do to Bangle.
And many of them would look more at home in a Pontiac showroom than a BMW one. The CLS, I do like, very much. Same with the new SLK, save the F1 nose...I think it would have looked better with the twin hood buldges from the original 300SL, like the first SLK had. The best looking new car out there? Its American. The Saturn SKY...wow, what a looker. |
Originally Posted by Outland
The best looking new car out there? Its American. The Saturn SKY...wow, what a looker.
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Some more spy photos of the new C-class!
http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphoto...d-new-spy-pics
Got a new interior shot and photos with the current c next to it. ---------------------------------------------------------------- My say: Looks like the designers ran out of ideas. the speedo looks like it's from the current e. and isn't audi have the same centre screen design? (if i remember correctly) but i'm sure they don't want to have the same design as the S becos then they need to have two different dash for the same model like the bmw's 3. |
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Originally Posted by tifosiv122
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Have you guys seen the Lexus IS's side mirrors? They're clunkier. Imagine some supermodel who had Dumbo sized ears. That's like the one thing I really don't like about the car.
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the back of that car is too big compared to the front, looks odd.
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Well, I have to say, I think I won't be desiring the new C Class once it comes out.
The new E Class facelift is coming out soon. I think it looks alright. |
cars ugly.
they really are ruining the look im glad I have my 05 sedan ... its basically another cadillac CTS. sad.:wall: if were lucky they might change it. |
still looks like baby-S
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The lines of the new C seem to be more dramatic, but fabulously unoriginal at the same time. The Mercedes line over the years has carried a shape of elegance that falls on the side of classy or sporty. In the craftsmanship of a small sedan, the lines should complement its stature, not make its smaller size obvious. It is hard to picture the car with the padding off; maybe enough curves are present to make it pop and not the way of the new BMW 3 Series.
The engineers behind the new body style know that when you throw a three-pointed star on the hood it immediately gives a car class. This car may need it; I think they could of done much more with the design, however it is not all horrific. It missed the mark just enough to make me confident I won't fall out of love with my 2006 C230 and leave her for a younger one. |
Personally, I dont' see how anyone can judge how great/bad the car looks with that much masking on it. Sure, you can see some of the major lines - but the beauty comes out in the details and how they flow, which are all still hidden. And regardless... it'll never be as ugly as the new 3 series.
I'll reserve my judgement until we see some un-masked pics. |
I like what they did w/ the nav screen... how it pops up only when you are using it... or thats what it seems like.... w/ the new body style the new C class will definately be the baby s.....
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That looks like the luxury version based upon the design of front spoiler and I prefer the look of sport version over the luxury version. I think the W204 is going to be okay. I can see myself trading my W203 for it in a couple of years.
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First of all, I don't think it'll be as ugly as the 3 series.
It so far doesn't look too bad. Although I'm not a big fan of the new S Class (I still think the W140 S Class was the physically most beautiful car Mercedes ever made), I think the C Class will look somewhat like the new S CLass. It won't be too bad though. It'll still be the best looking car out there. Personally, I don't like the: Lexus' front nose and side mirrors Infiniti G35 looks a bit like a space ship, just a bit; they're coming out with a redesign though BMW 3 series is a bit boxy these days, interior is useable though Never was a big fan of Audi, although it doesn't look bad at all. Cadillac CTS was never really that big on my list either. It looks a bit alien. |
I've always liked the overall look of the W203; it just looks sexy.
The new W204 lost most of its curves. Kinda like how the current Viper did after the redesign. The Viper of the 1990's were sexy and curvy. The current one just sucks balls because they squared out everything, rendering the design boring and flat. Cars are like chicks. Sex appeal matters. |
Just wait for AMG to come out with a kit for it. I'm sure it'll look better once that happens.
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Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
Just wait for AMG to come out with a kit for it. I'm sure it'll look better once that happens.
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Originally Posted by benzmodz
I have already seen the AMG version and it looks more like the SLK nose with a different grille.
I can't say it was breathtaking. |
I have to say, seriously, if you look at the W203, I can find no complaints. Look at the front, the car looks great, the side, not bad at all, the rear, a little high and chubby but otherwise excellent.
It's truly a flawless car. Compare that with the Lexus IS, the front looks a little low, the side doors look too big and there is no impact strip line to break the huge expanse of spacing, and the rear is good, but the rear window is so thin that the driver can hardly see out. The BMW 3 series, the front is liveable, the side is too chisled, same as the IS. The rear is pretty bad, boring taillight design. The interior of the C Class is faultless as well, especially the facelifted model. The W204 is going to have a hard time to beat it. |
Doesn't look too inspiring.
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Everybody's seen this link from a previous post on this forum right?
http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Mar06/2...dMLKClass.html I think it looks liveable. Am I the only one? Regardless, I still think my C looks the fine the way it is. |
Thanks for the pics!
The overall design layout does not seem that much changed: door shapes, wheelbase, roofline even the width seems identical. I actually took the side picture and superimposed it to one I have from my car and they are a near match. I will be greatly disappointed if the beautiful headlights give way to very ordinary looking Opel Astra-like headlamps that are shown here. The taillight seems to have been inverted.. looks like a Citroen Xsara back end now... yikes! In other words seems more like an evolution than a full redesign... maybe a similar case to the new E-Class, albeit they did keep the lovely face. |
Originally Posted by patrick_y
Everybody's seen this link from a previous post on this forum right?
http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Mar06/2...dMLKClass.html I think it looks liveable. Am I the only one? Regardless, I still think my C looks the fine the way it is. Thanks for the link Patrick. It doesn't look bad so I think it'll grow on people in time. Once I see the AMG model in white with quad tail pipes everything's gonna be okay. :zoom: |
Originally Posted by tifosiv122
maybe it's a safety feature where it adds "downforce" to the car. :rolleyes: or else i can't think of a reason why they make it so huge! http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphot...001.mini9L.jpg i have no complaint except i don't like how they break the curve of the rear windows. to me most (if not all) MB have the rear windows to a point where BMW have the curve by the rear windows. i guess that's the style difference between the two brands. but now the new c have the curve just by the end of the window so to me it lost some of the MB style. http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphot...01.mini16L.jpg i hope people are not going to say they copy the center screen from audi A8 like the S from bmw. looks like the command control are all below the air-vent. so maybe it won't have the "i-drive" knob by the center then. i still can't get over that the speedo looks exactly like the E's one. Hades |
Quote From SDSILVERM3 Thanks for the link Patrick. It doesn't look bad so I think it'll grow on people in time. Once I see the AMG model in white with quad tail pipes everything's gonna be okay. My pleasure to provide you with pics. Glad that you found them helpful. I agree, the quad tail pipes does help. As for me, I'm going to stick with my C until 150k miles (still got a long ways to go, it's been 16 months and only 10.5k miles); so I will see the next C Class when it is updated. Then again, I'll probably want to move up. I think I'm going to move over to BMW or Italian. |
i am having trouble deciding if i should wait for the new C or just get the current C230...
from the looks of it, i dont think the new one will be all that bad.. my only complaint is that in the interior.. the center dash seems really cramped.. the air vents are so tiny, and i really dont like the pop-up screen.. |
This is my rule, and most people will disagree to it but oh well.
I always try to buy the car the first year it's been facelifted. I think that's the best, because by then, they'd have gotten all the kinks and bugs out. So, if you like the C Class right now, get it. If not, get the BMW 3 series or the Lexus IS. Even those are the first years out and might have one or two kinks, they will still do better resale wise than a C. |
Just happened to have a similarily angled picture...
http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphot...001.mini9L.jpg http://www.spymac.com/upload/gallery...8_DSC_0037.jpg |
Originally Posted by emxgarcia
Just happened to have a similarily angled picture...
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It will grow on alot of people after a year or so. All in all I think the final production version will be nice, including with the AMG package.
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Originally Posted by MoMocedes230
It will grow on alot of people after a year or so. All in all I think the final production version will be nice, including with the AMG package.
Then again, I overrate BMWs. The only reason why I like them is because 1, they handle well, a huge criteria for me and 2, the BMWs include maintenance when Mercedes doesn't. |
Originally Posted by anonymouse
Sorry to say to but white people kill me when they say this (and it is only white people who do this). Dude has no clue who made the initial comment but he is convinced that it was made without any malice whatsoever. And to add insult to injury, he accuses the person who ojected to the racist term of being a racist. Ain't life grand?
I would presume your comment valid if i were white. Unfortunately for your sake, i'm not. Sorry bud, you're fish out of water on this one. |
Originally Posted by ultraseven
with all the comments here, it's funny how the design implies copying the Acura and Toyota's ;).
Isn't it also ironic those were the same comments when our current generation debuted, and now everyone thinks it looks like a goddess? I've noticed the same thing at Rush concerts. The loudest cheering is always for the songs that are for songs up to and including the previous album, but never for the one they are actually touring. They cheer for those on the next tour. My two cents, I like the way the W204 looks in these pictures. If I were shopping new cars in the price range, and could wait long enough, I'd give it a close look. Regards, e harmon |
Originally Posted by e harmon
I agree with you completely, ultraseven. The same thing has happened with just about every car that I've owned or actively researched during a generation change, including those from other manufacturers. There are still people that prefer the W202 over W203, W210 over the W211, W208 over the W209, and there will be people that prefer the W204 over the no doubt highly derivative/generic/featureless W205 :p:
I've noticed the same thing at Rush concerts. The loudest cheering is always for the songs that are for songs up to and including the previous album, but never for the one they are actually touring. They cheer for those on the next tour. My two cents, I like the way the W204 looks in these pictures. If I were shopping new cars in the price range, and could wait long enough, I'd give it a close look. Regards, e harmon While the W203 has no faults in the design, especially with the face lift, I still really like the W202. My favorite S Class has been the W140, especially the 1999 model. My favorite E Class has been the W210 2001, 2002 models. I really like the older SL as well. BMW wise, I really appreciate the 2001 740i Sport, 2003 540i and 530i Sport, and the E46 M3. Don't like much else from the BMW. I guess I'm a sucker for older cars. Yet, the new W204 C Class actually doesn't look bad in my opinion, most people here don't like it, but I don't mind it at all. But we'll have to see later on. |
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I wonder why they test the car in PA, it's not an area where there are many temperature/conditions extremeties.
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Simplicity is the BEST and MB know this .
(but interior do not like too much :( |
Originally Posted by patrick_y
I wonder why they test the car in PA, it's not an area where there are many temperature/conditions extremeties.
Overall, I think its a massive letdown. I think its pretty amazing that the same spy shots weve been seeing for nearly three years now are spot on! ITs DULL!!!!! Lets see...Acura nose, Lexus's LS400 headlights....pretty plain profile, full diaper ass, and it has really ugly shaped tailights. |
Originally Posted by Outland
There's more to testing than just how much it can take. Don't forget, these cars are designed in germany, where road conditions are much different than they are here.
Overall, I think its a massive letdown. I think its pretty amazing that the same spy shots weve been seeing for nearly three years now are spot on! ITs DULL!!!!! Lets see...Acura nose, Lexus's LS400 headlights....pretty plain profile, full diaper ass, and it has really ugly shaped tailights. I'm still looking at this link... http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Mar06/2...dMLKClass.html It looks liveable. |
Originally Posted by patrick_y
We'll see, in due time.
I'm still looking at this link... http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Mar06/2...dMLKClass.html It looks liveable. |
Originally Posted by Kenzmbz
Thats what im fearing:bs:
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Originally Posted by patrick_y
We'll see, in due time.
I'm still looking at this link... http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Mar06/2...dMLKClass.html It looks liveable. |
Originally Posted by Hades
hey, i just notice now... the back light of the new c looks similar to the slk.
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seem nobody has posted this photo shot. i guess i will do it. here's a interior shot without the covering:
http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/...esCClass_2.jpg more info at: http://www.emercedesbenz.com/May06/1...desCClass.html |
Oh, man, i don't like the steering wheel AT ALL. Don't like the fact that there's going to be the iDrive equivalent of the Comand System. Otherwise, the interior doesn't look too bad, the top of the dashboard is a bit barren, not much wood trim or metal trim. Slightly boring.
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And in the interior....EXACTLY the same as the 3 year old spy photos!!! Damn that's funny.
And that interior is nasty? Who thought they could make the steering wheel look worse? And what is going on at the centerstack? Where is MB going to put all that fake looking overly glossy wood? |
Oh well, I guess this is the last Mercedes I'm going to own.
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Originally Posted by patrick_y
Oh well, I guess this is the last Mercedes I'm going to own.
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Originally Posted by patrick_y
Oh well, I guess this is the last Mercedes I'm going to own.
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I wonder how the 'sport sedan' version with AMG kit looks like. Do you guys think the AMG kit will be standard for the US?
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Originally Posted by mick1
I don't know. I hated the spy photos of the SLK and CLS and new-S class but by the time they released them cars, I loved them all :)
The SLK is a very nice car on the exterior, but sit inside and look at the dashboard material. Feels like rubber. The new S, everybody who's seen it in person that I am very familiar with haven't been too inspired by its styling. The cars in the current Mercedes lineup that I appreciate are: C, 2007 E (don't like the instrument cluster), 2007 CLK (don't like the instrument cluster with the big clock and digital gauges), the SL, CL, SLR, and the G. If they would change the instrument cluster on the E and the CLK, I'd be more impressed. |
Originally Posted by iSpY
I wonder how the 'sport sedan' version with AMG kit looks like. Do you guys think the AMG kit will be standard for the US?
i-SpY It will probably have a flatter nose (notice that the bumper and the radiator grill are almost flat instead of the radiator grill set behind the bumper somewhat) to run over pedestrians without hurting them as much. The body package will probably be similiar to that found in the new E Class after it's facelifted for the 2007 model year. |
Originally Posted by patrick_y
The CLS, is just not my thing. It's too... not conservative, the tail of the CLS looks like it came from a terrible nightmare involving a witch from the Grimms fairy tales.
The SLK is a very nice car on the exterior, but sit inside and look at the dashboard material. Feels like rubber. The new S, everybody who's seen it in person that I am very familiar with haven't been too inspired by its styling. The cars in the current Mercedes lineup that I appreciate are: C, 2007 E (don't like the instrument cluster), 2007 CLK (don't like the instrument cluster with the big clock and digital gauges), the SL, CL, SLR, and the G. If they would change the instrument cluster on the E and the CLK, I'd be more impressed. |
Originally Posted by Hades
Hey, you do notice that they are going to use similar e class instrument cluster in the new c, right.
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Originally Posted by Hades
Hey, you do notice that they are going to use similar e class instrument cluster in the new c, right.
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Best interior in an MB, IMHO.....................CLS'.
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Originally Posted by patrick_y
In the pictures above, at least there is no gigantic clock with digital fuel and radiator temperature gauges. That is the part I particularly dislike about the current E and CLK.
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Originally Posted by Hades
well.. for me... those are the things that i like about the E, the clock makes the E feel classy, while the digital fuel and temp. gauges make the E feel high-tech. that's why i don't quite like the new C's instrument cluster the first time, but after a few looks at it i'm starting to get used to it... maybe i will like the final product, who knows...
1, clock should always be towards the center of the car or centered on the instrument cluster. 2, tachometer should either be towards the center of the car or dead center of the instrument cluster. 3, Speedometer should always be on the towards the outside of the car UNLESS the tachometer is mounted in a central position, then it should be towards the center of the car. 4, minimal digital guages as possible. Clarification about "the center of the car." On Left Hand Drive cars, the center of the car would be the "right" of the driver and instrument cluster, while on Right Hand Drive cars, the center of the car would be on the "left" of the driver and instrument cluster. Very few cars live up to this requirement. This requirement is in place because when I look down from the road to see my instrument cluster, the first thing I want to see is the engine speed; since engine speed is the viewing priority. Lastly, high-tech is not a strong point of Mercedes-Benz. Seriously, nobody needs "night vision" supercomputers on their cars. |
Originally Posted by patrick_y
Okay, rules about the instrument cluster.
Lastly, high-tech is not a strong point of Mercedes-Benz. Seriously, nobody needs "night vision" supercomputers on their cars. BTW, the night vision is the yestertech piece of the loadout. Cadillac had that a decade ago...:rolf: :rolf: :rolf: |
W204 C Class?
just wondering if any one got some information or websites about the next generation C Class?
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New C-Class (W204) spy photos from Dubai
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Hi everyone,
Here are some pictures taken by my friends Bjorn and Chicco of the new C-Class undergoing hot weather testing in Dubai: |
Nice!! But you sure it is a C Class, looks kind of big.
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ur sig pic is more eye-catching than the spy pics... :P
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If that's really it, I'm glad I got an '06!
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Originally Posted by CSportAnt
Nice!! But you sure it is a C Class, looks kind of big.
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It's funny that they test there were it's hot and humid. Then the bring it to our southwest where it's bone dry and 120F and parts start falling off and they can't figure out why. I had a W201 lemon law buyback because the throttle linkage would expand in the desert heat and fall off.
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Good to see you again jimmyg. I'm surprised that Mercedes chose to conduct the hot weather testing in Dubai, since they usually do it in the Mojave desert in California (on a drive towards a high speed test track in Arizona).
Regarding the 2008 C Class, I'm interested, but I don't think I'll need one for a while, since I actually plan to drive this car past 100k miles. Besides, I'll try to see what's good on the market about 6 years from now and make my decision then. |
DaimlerChrysler has been doing hot weather testing in Dubai for several years now, as has Ford's PAG (Jag, Aston, Landrover) and BMW. Here are some pics of other prototypes in Dubai:
http://www.autospies.com/images/uplo...519-223344.jpg http://www.jimmygrewal.com/mt/archiv.../IMAGE_072.jpg http://www.jimmygrewal.com/mt/archiv.../IMAGE_073.jpg http://www.jimmygrewal.com/mt/archiv.../IMAGE_074.jpg http://www.jimmygrewal.com/mt/archiv.../IMAGE_063.jpg http://www.jimmygrewal.com/wordpress...ent/x164_1.jpg http://www.jimmygrewal.com/wordpress...ent/x164_4.jpg http://www.jimmygrewal.com/mt/archiv...ack-rclass.jpg http://www.jimmygrewal.com/mt/archiv...lass-thumb.jpg http://www.jimmygrewal.com/mt/images...mage_00008.jpg http://www.jimmygrewal.com/mt/images...mage_00013.jpg http://www.jimmygrewal.com/mt/images...lass_dubai.jpg |
This is the 2008 Mercedes C-Class
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Totally OT, but does anyone else find the VW designed Bentley's to be FUGLY?
The Arnage is the last good lookin' B-Car to me...... |
Only 2 doors? CL204? :)
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This si a Coupe edition but is the same for the 4 doors
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Or could this be the new upcoming CLK? Unlike this, C-Class Sports Coupe looks more like a hatch...
Originally Posted by phixsius
This si a Coupe edition but is the same for the 4 doors
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That's a good question. Because the CLK, although it shares its chassis components with the C-Class, it gets some of its styling from the E Class (talk about a paradox).
Thus, it's difficult to determine when the CLKs will have their new model debut. I think this is going to be the next CLK Class, since the C-coupe is expected to remain as a hatchback. The next C Class will look somewhat a bit like a miniature S-Class in some aspects. |
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actually they're all nothing but photoshops. not accurate at all.
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Yeah, these are generated by the automotive magazine publishers. Nothing official...
Originally Posted by FrankW
actually they're all nothing but photoshops. not accurate at all.
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diamlerChrysler is stupid.
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so nothing new in the spyshot world i see... :(
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W204 ?
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5.4ltr V8?! Anyone care for a 10 second [1/4mile] C-class?!
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try this on for size!!!
http://www.w204.com/ Paint it Green and call it a Hulk Smash! C36 Anyone?! 500+ponies = RAWR! |
Originally Posted by FrankW
it looks big cuz cars next to it are small. you're looking at 306 or 307 next to it.
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New 2008 C-Class Pics
Ok so Daimer-Benz was at my job today doing a conference. And..they had the parking lot full of Benzes. All kinds. The new CL was there, looked NICE! Some Aston Martins, a not released yet Lexus LS450, bunch of ML's GL's and a E63. BUT the biggest draw was the tottally covered in gaffer tape 2008 C-Class,. They had 2, once drove away as i went to get my camera phone, and camera. When i came back, i took some pictures. most were from my camera phone, some from my digicam. I used the phone because its not as suspicious as a digi cam. there was this rather large german fellow giving me glances once in a while.:rolf:
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/6076/dsc00609ei2.jpg http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/8916/dsc00615rs0.jpg http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/945/dsc00614cs4.jpg http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1310/dsc00613ri1.jpg http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2549/picture002rb4.jpg http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/2097/picture004uu2.jpg Thats it. I wish i could have grabbed some more! When one of the W204's drove away, man, that growl from then engine/exhaust was nice!! On a side note, when a group of german guys from mercedes walked passed a 'blingged out' GT Mustang they snickered and pointed and said something in german. im sure it wasnt nice. :) |
1 word.. UGLY!
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yea so far i think our w203's look better. the new one is also bigger i noticed. its not the same as jumping from the w202 to our w203, were the looks was deif. an improvement. i'll wait until i see one fully unwrapped and finalized before i make my final decition
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nice pics! thanks! I'm not sold on it yet... I'm not liking the interior either... at least it has digital climate control though. :wall: :wall:
out of curiosity, where do you work? it's pretty cool that you were able to see that. |
it was in the parking lot of the World Trade Center/Hilton Long Beach, in Long Beach, CA. I assist clients with their A/V needs. One of my clients today was Mercedes. yeah it was cool, bunch of Benz Engineers admiring all the cars in the parking lot! To bad they were only there for one day :(
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Originally Posted by drho2004
it was in the parking lot of the World Trade Center/Hilton Long Beach, in Long Beach, CA. I assist clients with their A/V needs. One of my clients today was Mercedes. yeah it was cool, bunch of Benz Engineers admiring all the cars in the parking lot! To bad they were only there for one day :(
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Thanx, good work.
Now all we have to wait for is for them to appear on autospies as the latest and greatest spyshots. Hopefully they'll give credit to who posted them first. Nah, I doubt it. :D |
interesting but....
Wow those are some large sideview mirrors!!:eek:
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Thanks for the pics, that is a rare treat indeed to get such good shots of a not yet released vehicle.
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isn't there already some w204 pics unwrapped out there?
personally i like what i have now, it's kinda fugly :zoom: |
ouu i envy that you get to see this in person!
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I agree with everyone, W203 looks so much nicer.
A few comments about the 204: those side view mirrors are like the new Lexus IS: looks like they ripped that off from the SUV and glued it there. Pop-UP nav screen is also like the old IS. Also, the A/C vents has no design to it: looks like the took it from the older benzs (202, 210). IMO, the rear is terrible, that Mitsu Lancer style taillight/rear end has to be gone :stick: Just one question/comment in general. Don't you all think the trend of cars these days are getting "thicker and box-ier"---in terms of height and smaller windows, if you know what I mean. More sheetmetal and many of them are very tall. Look at the new S class, the thick mattress style trunk looks very similar to the new 7 series, but a little nicer though. Oh well, I will make a final judgement when it is unwrapped |
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Does anyone remember seeing this pic on an earlier thread? Look closely and you'll the the artist's rendering of the 2008 C-Class is pretty damned close.
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the cup holder is a disappointment :(
one of many reasons why i got a benz, the cup holder |
really good pics we've got here! Best ones i've seen yet!
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Great job on the pics. Very difficult to see the lines of the car to make a judgement on the body shape, but from what I can see, I don't like it. Only thing that I do like is the split dual oval tips.
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yeah kinda hard to see the lines from the pics. its rather bigger and boxier than the current 203. taller too. but i dont think this was the sport sedan, well at least it didnt havce the crossdrilled front brakes. but it did have aluminum trim and dual exhaust. but up close it was easier to see the car lines, it was just taped over with gaffer tape, no actual body molding. i wanted to get inside, but it was kind of hard with benz people hovering the area. like i mentioned earlier when one took off at almost full throtle it sounded very similar to the current G35 coupes. we'll see when they are finally unveilved. hope they come back to my job so i can take better pics!!
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"Yeah, 10-4 good buddy....looks like we got us a connn-voyyyyy"
WTF is with the CB Radio??? http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1310/dsc00613ri1.jpg |
Originally Posted by drho2004
yeah kinda hard to see the lines from the pics. its rather bigger and boxier than the current 203. taller too. but i dont think this was the sport sedan, well at least it didnt havce the crossdrilled front brakes. but it did have aluminum trim and dual exhaust. but up close it was easier to see the car lines, it was just taped over with gaffer tape, no actual body molding. i wanted to get inside, but it was kind of hard with benz people hovering the area. like i mentioned earlier when one took off at almost full throtle it sounded very similar to the current G35 coupes. we'll see when they are finally unveilved. hope they come back to my job so i can take better pics!!
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Man I'm glad I got a W203..............
That interior is disgusting. It looks cheap! |
Nice shots .. lets wait till they remove those tapes :rolleyes: ..
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IMO, the interior looks really cheap and lacks of design.
I actually like the front, it looks wide and stylish, comparing to our classic look. But the rear...i can't appreciate. It looks anything but a Mercedes. Just when i thought the new 3's rear looks ugly...now it's got a runner-up. Now i konw how classic our W203's are, i am happy that i got one before it's replaced.^^ |
wow. tough crowd here.
I like the W204. W203 is nice but there are too many of them on the road. I plan to replace my W203 with the W204 in a couple of years. |
WERD! This is exactly what happened when the spy pics of the W203 came out........This isn't the final production version so there are still some tweaks that are going to be done, including the interior.
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Ew. Funny how the supposed photoshops from nearly 3 years ago are dead on the money, even in the interior. Nice to see they dumped the ugly as all hell 4 spoke wheel, in favor of the 3 spoker. The rest of the interior is ****. How do you like how cheap MB is with the stereo...no display other than on the NAV screen- WTF? And that means something like an I-Drive mouse is hiding nearby. I said if before, I'll say it again, W204 is looking like ****.
Anybody notice how much of the detailing, especially in front is taped on plastic? And why would anybody care if youre taking pics? Stuff like this is almost always a staged event to leak some 'spy' shots to drum up interest in the car. And boy, is it nasty. The front end is Acura meets Scion, with a MB star....the rear is full diaper. No thanks. BMW ruined its 3 series styling, so I guess MB had to ugly up the C Class. :wwf: |
Originally Posted by frox11
the cup holder is a disappointment :(
one of many reasons why i got a benz, the cup holder
Originally Posted by Outland
Ew. .... C Class. :wwf:
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
"Yeah, 10-4 good buddy....looks like we got us a connn-voyyyyy"
WTF is with the CB Radio??? http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1310/dsc00613ri1.jpg And why is the key in it. This is so staged. |
Originally Posted by Outland
And why is the key in it. This is so staged.
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Los Angeles lunch group
We should have a LA bi-monthly lunch group or something.
NP is here, me and you. I'm sure there are others. E |
Originally Posted by emrliquidlife
We should have a LA bi-monthly lunch group or something.
NP is here, me and you. I'm sure there are others. E Anyone else interested? |
Interesting the comments that put the car down before the official pics are shown. How many folks here hated the spy shots of the S-Class before the wraps came off only to fall in love with the finished product? If the C looks like a mini-S again, which is what the pics show except for the rear, then everything will be ok with this design. The wheel arches are there, but they're been toned down especially the rear one, which is the only part of the S that I'm not crazy about. The comments about the interior are just hilarious because the current C's interior was cheap as all get out before the facelift and MB can't do any worse than that! If the new S is anything to go by Mercedes has fixed all their interior quality problems and a ruff prototype is not the place to judge interior quality!
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Originally Posted by GMW
Wow those are some large sideview mirrors!!:eek:
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Los Angeles Lunch
Originally Posted by drho2004
Hmm..interesting..never thought of that.
Anyone else interested? Well, maybe we should post this in the Off Topic, see if people are interested. I'm envisioning more of a networking with some car talk kind of thing. Meet every two months or so... E |
Unlike many of you I find the new C to be gorgeous. The W203 is an ageless beauty but it never had that true Mercedes look of substance to it, the new car is returning to the big and substantial look that made Mercedes-Benz famous so many years ago. I do agree that the interior looks a little cheap but C-Class' always have been, especially the current generation. You just can't expect to get S-Class level quality at a car that costs a quarter of the price. I gaurantee that once the official photos are released all of you will fall in love with the car, it is a Mercedes after all.
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Some exterior features that I noticed: Facelifted e-class side view mirrors, facelifted e-class pointy grille, CLS and the new CL body crease. This one might be OK. I agree the A/C vents in the picture are just plain ugly, although I wouldnt worry about the interior. Did you see that they still use the current W203 digital temp control ? That tells me the interior in the pic is just temporary. The final product will be much better.
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Originally Posted by mick1
..W203 is nice but there are too many of them on the road. I plan to replace my W203 with the W204 in a couple of years.
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Originally Posted by 360_iti
lol sorry i think the above statement is funny. you plan to replace your W203 with the w204 in 2 years because you've seen too many of them on the road, and none of the w204..
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mick i understand.. :) it's just in 2 years you'll start to see many w204s on the road too, and in 6 years you'll see them even more, just like the current w203. At any given period of time, you'll see many current C-class benzes on the road.
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Originally Posted by emrliquidlife
Well, maybe we should post this in the Off Topic, see if people are interested. I'm envisioning more of a networking with some car talk kind of thing.
Meet every two months or so... E
Originally Posted by 360_iti
I agree the A/C vents in the picture are just plain ugly, although I wouldnt worry about the interior. Did you see that they still use the current W203 digital temp control ? That tells me the interior in the pic is just temporary. The final product will be much better.
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Sideview mirrors
I think that the large sideview mirrors are from the new Euro regulations on visibility. They come quite ugly, but you are going to see them all over on future euro imports.
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Originally Posted by amdeutsch
Hopefully they'll give credit to who posted them first.
http://emercedesbenz.com/Aug06/03_C_...py_Photos.html |
:y there's a link to this thread too. Guys, careful with what you say from now on :)
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interesting. you cant really judge until fully unveiled.
also interior looks similar to new 2007 maxima? |
I like the pop up navigation screen in the new car. The exposed one that I got would get real dusty after a while and there's no way to turn off the display screen.
The pop up navigation screen solves all that https://mbworld.org/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif |
Originally Posted by AshleyAlissa
Just thought I would mention that emercedesbenz ran the pics and gave a nod to the photographer, even linked back to this post. Not bad.
http://emercedesbenz.com/Aug06/03_C_...py_Photos.html |
Originally Posted by drho2004
Oh snap! haha, dang...that made my day!!:rolf:
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Originally Posted by mick1
wow. tough crowd here.
I like the W204. W203 is nice but there are too many of them on the road. I plan to replace my W203 with the W204 in a couple of years. |
Interior
Guys, I don't think they gonna change the interior much. Look what has Autobild posted more than 2 years ago.....It's ugly as hell !
http://media.autobild.de/bild/C/875b...a68a8b3c_1.jpg |
Originally Posted by XZACM102
Guys, I don't think they gonna change the interior much. Look what has Autobild posted more than 2 years ago.....It's ugly as hell !
http://media.autobild.de/bild/C/875b...a68a8b3c_1.jpg i just hope they do something w/ the finish of this interior. it's disgusting. :eek: looks like ****. can't believe unimaginative the whole thing is. plastic explosion. MB SAY IT AIN'T SO! |
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Originally Posted by ScottW911
Does anyone remember seeing this pic on an earlier thread? Look closely and you'll the the artist's rendering of the 2008 C-Class is pretty damned close.
Attachment 87646 |
awesome! more pics! those are from germany i suppose because of the license plate. on those pics u can see the holes for the parktronic. i hope we get that option in the usa.
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I like new design side mirrors , more estetical , began new S after adapted E with facelift and now C
hope these mirrors can adapte to W203 :) |
It would of been funny if you had tried to rip off the siding and tape off the car. Partially exposing the car while hurringly taking pictures. Sounds like car molestation. lol
I'm so sick of MB being soo freakishly paranoid. BMW didn't do this did they? oh well |
Originally Posted by mbny
If you look at this picture and the picture of the benz sitting in the background to the left on the first picture in this thread, the car looks almost identical. Could that be an undisguised C class? Does anyone know what model that is?
and yes, BMW is just as paranoid. |
:tear: the only thing fuglier than that exterior is the interior... i mean really it looks like an acura's dash or something. this is one of the reasons why i'm probably going to get an M3 instead of another C-class for my next car.
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the interior pic on the 1st page looks like a g35 console
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Originally Posted by ctC230K
:tear: the only thing fuglier than that exterior is the interior... i mean really it looks like an acura's dash or something. this is one of the reasons why i'm probably going to get an M3 instead of another C-class for my next car.
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Originally Posted by mbny
LOL, u don't even know what the new M3's are gonna look like?
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I'm sure the W204 will be somehthin else, it will probably be different then the pictures shown here. I hope they fix the inerior a little.
But all i know is that i would buy a W204 C63 over any M3 any day of my life! |
We picked a new SLK 280 from Brehem in Germany last week and did the factory tour, We where taken past an area which was been fiitted out for the new W204. A few part where on show, Looks a nice car,
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ya mean '08
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Originally Posted by white_w203
again....a mini s-class
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YUK! So glad I went with an 07...I bet they sell a lot to an older demographic.
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you guys will be surprised. Check out the real spy pics of the 2008 C class. the below are AMG, but as you know all Sports versions of C230 and C350 will share this look. look carefully at the styling. this car blows the 3 series and IS line outta the ballpark.
http://www.acurazine.com/forums/show...=339562&page=1 2008 C350 HERE I COME. cant wait till next year |
ARCWELDER,
there is no such thing as the 2007 C230K. I think u mean C230 |
this car blows the 3 series and IS line outta the ballpark. I'm really not liking this "mini-s" design. Just makes the car look like a cheap S and loses its uniqueness. |
Originally Posted by BenzRookie
ARCWELDER,
there is no such thing as the 2007 C230K. I think u mean C230 |
2008 Mercedes W204 C-Class C63 AMG Video! Hear V8 Engine!
From: W204C-Class.com
Powered by a sophisticated 6.3-litre V8, capable of pumping a massive 520 bhp, the Mercedes C63 AMG sedan promises to be the fastest car of its kind in the world. However, when it’s launched in 2008, it won’t have everything its own way. BMW’s new M3 is expected to offer a similar level of performance, plus a seven-speed, semi-automatic gearbox. Cool vid, sit back and enjoy! WATCH IT AT W204C-Class.com |
seems like cars nowadays are gettgin more hp
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Originally Posted by Tangerine
seems like cars nowadays are gettgin more hp
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I'm glad they are making this car so fast. The less I have to look at its droopy ass, and asian nose the better.
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Awesome! by the time my lease is up, the new body will be out :zoom:
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2008 C-class
Does anyone have any new information about the 2008 C-class?
When I asked my local dealer about information and availability, he said that he didn't want to "speculate"... I also read in the latest Road & Track magazine that Mercedes is dropping the C55 for 2007 models. So it seems as if the next high-end C-class will be a 2008 C63 AMG... ? Any confirmation on this... can they get this huge engine into the C-class? |
I work for MB and there is a C63 at the dealer I work for, it is a Black Covert. Thing it lists for something like $90,000, and as far as the 2008 C class, the head MB guy here says it is going to look like the S class now.
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Originally Posted by 06Benz230
(Post 1748770)
I work for MB and there is a C63 at the dealer I work for, it is a Black Covert. Thing it lists for something like $90,000, and as far as the 2008 C class, the head MB guy here says it is going to look like the S class now.
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Originally Posted by amdeutsch
(Post 1748781)
There is no such thing as a C63 convertible. MB does not make a 4 door convertible.
:smash: |
Originally Posted by nRo
(Post 1748797)
..he didnt say anything about a convertible tho...but yeah...c63 doesnt exist...
Originally Posted by 06Benz230
...Black Covert...
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must be a clk 63 convertable.
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it is a CLK 63 covertable I made a mistake when I typed sorry. but that clk 63 is HOT.
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Originally Posted by 06Benz230
(Post 1748877)
it is a CLK 63 covertable I made a mistake when I typed sorry. but that clk 63 is HOT.
With all due respect, may I ask what what dealer you work at, or at least, what your position is? |
Originally Posted by shahedC
(Post 1749024)
well, now you're going to have to prove yourself since you started talking about a "C63" and then a "covert" and now a "covertable"
With all due respect, may I ask what what dealer you work at, or at least, what your position is? From what I hear he works "black ops" basically handling any and all covert operations for a dealership. To put it to you in laymens, he's the badest coffee runner this side of Antwerp. |
Originally Posted by Cigalert
(Post 1749226)
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To put it to you in laymen... |
Either way, there's been 10 million threads (exaggeration) on the w204, so I consolidated as many of them as possible into 1 thread.
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Good job Drex ! Thanks ! Actually there are another 10 million threads on "pics of my new C32/C55/other c-classes"
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Latest spy photos of the W204 (www.WorldCarFans.com)
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the mini S550
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the new c class will be so sick if its the same as the s class but smaller
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Any of you guys check out the grill? The 1st and 4th pic the car has CL grill while the 2nd and 3rd pic the car has regular grill. Either way I am exciting to see the final car :y
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The CL grill might be the AMG sprot package.
The AMG version is said to have the SLR look, ala the SLK. |
I don't know if I like it all that much, but I'd have to see the final product. I don't know, the back looks kinda bulky to me.
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and i see 20 x 10's fitting that rear slammed, that car will be good :boink:
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it would be really cool if it'll look a lot like the S class, then the AMG version of this?.. that would be nice.
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Still has the elephant outside mirrors I see....
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Hot ! New pictures and compares W203-W204
thank you www.worldcarfans.com
here link http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphoto...ss-old-and-new W203 is still good . it is hard to choose which is the best. yes W204 has more sharp view and more tech features but W203 is shinning still. more changes in this segment is too difficult . BMW 3 series Audi A4 and MB C do not radical change Autospy says '' Bread and Butter '' this class for Manufacturers. http://www.autospies.com/news/C-Clas...Mercedes-8606/ |
Baby S! :)
I like it. |
Thanks for the post. Gonna merge your thread with the main w204 thread.
Drex |
Originally Posted by ismeto
(Post 1764122)
thank you www.worldcarfans.com
here link http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphoto...ss-old-and-new W203 is still good . it is hard to choose which is the best. yes W204 has more sharp view and more tech features but W203 is shinning still. more changes in this segment is too difficult . BMW 3 series Audi A4 and MB C do not radical change Autospy says '' Bread and Butter '' this class for Manufacturers. http://www.autospies.com/news/C-Clas...Mercedes-8606/ 2001 to 2003 C Class Sport Coupe, these were the only years where you could acquire your sport coupe in the very fitting "Lime Green" color, which actually in my opinion is both unique and looks good on the Sport Coupe body style. 2002, C32 AMG is out. The most competition the BMW M3 has ever faced. 2003, first C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan introduced in US market. Creates new chapter in Mercedes-Benz sales volume. 2004.5 C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan is special because it has the 4 piston brakes along with the large cross drilled rotors. 2005 is special because of the AMG body kit available on the Sport Sedans and because of the face lift, this year is however odd because although all 2005 Sport Sedan models have the large cross drilled front brakes but some have the 4 piston calipers and some have the two piston calipers. I presume the 4 piston calipers were leftovers from last year. I know of one lucky forum member with an 05 who got the 4 piston calipers. Also, updated interior/exterior of the "Luxury Sedans". 2006, new engines and transmission offerings. While the C230 is under constant debate on which engine is better (they're both about the same to me), the C280 is dramatically different from the C240 and the C350 is also very different from the C320. 2007, the final iteration of the W203 C Class. This is all I can think of at the moment. But the W203 C Class has had a good run! |
Originally Posted by patrick_y
(Post 1764332)
...2004.5 C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan is special because it has the 4 piston brakes along with the large cross drilled rotors...
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A video on W204 C63 AMG... (sorry... clips contain Aussie accent)
http://media.drive.com.au/?rid=22035...te=586&flash=1 |
thanks for the vid link.
i love my w203 and i'll wait until i see a w204 up close and personal before judgement. shoot, i might as wait until i start seeing modded w204s. :) i'll see it here on the forum sooner than later |
Here's a nice comparison pic:
2008 C-Class vs 2007S-class http://benzfanz.com/2008_C-Class_vs_2007_S-class.jpg |
Originally Posted by drexappeal
(Post 1764398)
Don't forget, it's the last production year of the Free service.
However, somehow I ended up acquiring a 2005 model year vehicle since the BMW 2005 E46 3 series was in its last year of production. And, as a young person, the BMW's insurance was also noticeably higher than the equivalent Mercedes-Benz vehicle's insurance fees. Now, that my insurance is dramatically reduced (after driving for nearly two years), I would consider acquiring a BMW as my next vehicle except the somewhat controversial styling isn't pushing my buttons. I don't dislike it like some "anti-Bangle" fans, however, I don't favor it either. Thus, Japanese vehicles (such as the Infiniti G, Lexus IS, and even Subaru Impreza) have all of a sudden become something of an interest. |
Originally Posted by patrick_y
(Post 1765712)
Right! Thanks Drex, the 2004 models was the last year to have scheduled maintenance. I'm still upset about this, when Mercedes-Benz eliminated the scheduled maintenance, I was confident that I would never acquire a Mercedes-Benz vehicle again because it was no longer competitive with BMW.
He just brought his car in this past week for his 1st Service A and the ML Service A is $600 bucks (4X's C Class service A) at the stealership! Luckily, he makes good enough money to have no problem, but after he told me my exact reply was, "see, I warned you." |
Originally Posted by shahedC
(Post 1765475)
Here's a nice comparison pic:
2008 C-Class vs 2007S-class http://benzfanz.com/2008_C-Class_vs_2007_S-class.jpg |
Here is another one I saw at autobild.de
http://i10.tinypic.com/43zdwz5.jpg |
Originally Posted by drexappeal
(Post 1765790)
You think you're upset? My best friend bought the new ML. When he bought it, I told him that they eliminated free service for 2005+ models (to my knowledge). He said, "Nah, they didn't tell me anything about that, so I'm pretty sure I have free service."
He just brought his car in this past week for his 1st Service A and the ML Service A is $600 bucks (4X's C Class service A) at the stealership! Luckily, he makes good enough money to have no problem, but after he told me my exact reply was, "see, I warned you." Now, I've never heard of an A service costing $600. $600 for an A service seems excessive since the Maserati "A" service (they don't really call it that but it's equivalent to an A service with more fluid changes) is $600. I did the service A early (before 13000 miles) because I didn't drive the car 13,000 miles in the first year. I hope your friend reads the fine print and listens to your advice in the future. If he was a mutual friend, I'd tell him, "Drex knows everything there is to know about cars, his word supercedes the salesperson's word." As for me, I went in knowing that the car didn't include the scheduled service, but I was willing to take the service hit over the depreciation of the E46 3 series and the fact that the 3 series costs much more to insure. However, since my insurance is going down dramatically, for my next vehicle, I would probably prefer something with included maintenance (such as BMW). At that time, I'll tell my service manager to start looking for a job at the dealership next door (which happens to be a BMW dealership). |
That doesn't look bad at all. My next car is going to be a toss-up depending on how the M3/M4 turns out. :)
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Originally Posted by patrick_y
(Post 1765973)
...I hope your friend reads the fine print and listens to your advice in the future. If he was a mutual friend, I'd tell him, "Drex knows everything there is to know about cars, his word supercedes the salesperson's word." ...
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Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
(Post 1766215)
That doesn't look bad at all. My next car is going to be a toss-up depending on how the M3/M4 turns out. :)
I'm still a long ways away before acquiring my next vehicle, however, between the C55 and the M3, I would probably be more enticed by the M3 now (although in the past I prefered the C55). Still, the SMG paddle shift is a bit unsmooth during upshifting in normal driving. For me, since I'm still too far away to my next vehicle (the models then might not be the same ones now), I don't know what I plan to acquire. However, I do plan on acquiring a compact (possibly midsize) rear wheel drive sport sedan type car as my next vehicle. |
Originally Posted by drexappeal
(Post 1766412)
LOL, patrick...it's funny too, cuz he always asks me for advice about cars, but this one time, he was assuming something that no longer existed. Oh well, his ML is still damn nice. I like it much better than the older ML.
Yes indeed, I agree, the previous ML did leave something to be desired. I also find myself often giving advice on what vehicle to acquire. Sometimes I find that I'm not always listened to either. |
Originally Posted by patrick_y
(Post 1766641)
What do you think of the C55 when compared to the BMW M3? Do you still like the C55 better?
I'm still a long ways away before acquiring my next vehicle, however, between the C55 and the M3, I would probably be more enticed by the M3 now (although in the past I prefered the C55). Still, the SMG paddle shift is a bit unsmooth during upshifting in normal driving. For me, since I'm still too far away to my next vehicle (the models then might not be the same ones now), I don't know what I plan to acquire. However, I do plan on acquiring a compact (possibly midsize) rear wheel drive sport sedan type car as my next vehicle. You're probably right about it being too far out to the next vehicle but I like to plan ahead and keep my options open. The new M3/M4 should be out by then along with the C63 and Skyline (yes I said it :rice:). Or who knows, maybe I'll call it quits for a while. The main thing is that I'd like to something with 4 doors. |
Some new pics of the W204 and the W203 together:
http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphoto...ss-old-and-new |
I hope it doesn't look like the last pic fugly..
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Based on that last World Car Fans spy photo, I would order a W204 as long as it's as good a car as my 2006 C350. My C350 is the best overall car I have ever owned.
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Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
(Post 1766720)
The current C55 and M3 are really a toss-up. I went with the C55 instead because M3's are everywhere and not to mention I walked into a very attractive lease special (similar to the recent E55 lease special). I don't go a day without seeing at least 3 M3's where I work. I see a C55 once in a blue moon. Plus I've already owned an M3 in the past so I wanted to go with something different. I'm also not very fond of revving a motor to 8k rpm to get going. Thanks M3, but I have my Integra for that. :) The SMG can be very smooth once you've had some time to figure out how to adapt.
You're probably right about it being too far out to the next vehicle but I like to plan ahead and keep my options open. The new M3/M4 should be out by then along with the C63 and Skyline (yes I said it :rice:). Or who knows, maybe I'll call it quits for a while. The main thing is that I'd like to something with 4 doors. Agreed, the 8000 rpm redline on an M3 to me is useless; first of all, I wouldn't have the heart to make my car work so hard; and secondly, the car has a traditional lubrication system that can't handle that kind of high RPMs constantly without a lot of wear and tear in the engine. If you look at the engine, if the RPMs were to be cut off at the traditional 6000 RPMs, it'd only produce about the same amount of horsepower as a normal E320. That said, if an E320's engine was able to withstand 8000 RPMs, it might not be too far away from the M3's 333 hp. Anyways, this is besides the point. Having test driven the BMW M3 with SMG extensively twice (both convertibles even though I would only acquire the coupe model or a four door if they were to introduce one) and the BMW M5 once, I still am not able to figure out how to drive the SMG. I had it in all the various personality modes, I tried lifting my foot off the throttle during shifts, I tried lifting my foot off the throttle partially (as if I were rev matching) when I upshifted, and more techniques that I can't remember and I still couldn't get it right. Personally, since I'm not so worried about exclusivity, and I do appreciate the BMW M3 (although not the SMG), I would consider acquiring one provided they fixed the SMG. However, when it comes to practicality, all I really need is probably a smaller engined model since I don't drive quickly anyways due to traffic. |
ah, we're getting closer and closer to the date this car will finally be released!
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The New W204 C63 Amg?
From: w204c-class.com
http://w204c-class.com/bluemag.jpg MORE SPYSHOTS, C63 TEST DRIVE ONLY AT w204c-class.com |
So hot. I think the W204 is going to be the most popular Mercedes made so far. Look at the booming sales of the new S-class, now a miniature version for under half the price, will be sold out everywhere. I know I'm thinking of putting myself on the list.
*Edit Does anyone know how much the C63 AMG will be? I need to start saving now. |
ouuuu sexy!
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in asia...a C230k can get me a E500 in the states...therefore i will be more than happy if i have a C230k..let alone a C63....
now i am torn between the W204 or the new 3 series coupe...which is out-right sexy......and in 3rd place is the new audi TT |
do a search for it... 510hp?! on roughly a 3200-3750lbs platform... are you insane?! gawd i'd love to just test drive that for 30 mins!
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first of all that picture is about 6 months old.. the real car may look something similar to that, but look at the hood lines. (they will be on the side)
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Thanks for the post, but gonna merge this with the OFFICIAL w204 thread.
TO EVERYBODY If you find something cleaver or anyway want to "think" about posting a new thread about the w204, PLEASE post in the Official w204 thread instead of starting a new one. I'm workin' my butt off to clean up all the duplicate threads on this forum, so it would help me and all the other moderators out a lot. Thanks, Drex |
Originally Posted by JustinClk500
(Post 1774564)
From: w204c-class.com
http://w204c-class.com/bluemag.jpg MORE SPYSHOTS, C63 TEST DRIVE ONLY AT w204c-class.com |
http://www.gaogi.com/bluemag.jpg
Not sure if I did that line on the headlights. Looks too Bangle-BMW. |
Originally Posted by advans
(Post 1774745)
ouuuu sexy!
it seems you will sell your W203 coupe soon :rolf: |
My guess is that any C63 would be detuned by about 10% to avoid having the lighter car being faster than the larger cars fitted with the similar engine.
Another case of the sales department dictating to engineering. |
Originally Posted by Moviela
(Post 1776876)
My guess is that any C63 would be detuned by about 10% to avoid having the lighter car being faster than the larger cars fitted with the similar engine.
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Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
(Post 1776928)
Then along comes Kleemann to upload an E63 map to get it back up to the HP level of other 63's. (Or cripple it even further down to 380rwhp :rolf: )
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Originally Posted by BenzOnDubz
(Post 1775827)
If the new C looks anything like that my car is getting traded and ill take the lost. Im having one. But im sure its not going to look like that:wall:
That C looks HOT. I'd trade mine in for a W204 too if it looked like that! |
Originally Posted by ctC230K
(Post 1777270)
Then along comes Kleemann to bolt on a supercharger to make it a C63K with 700hp!
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W204
last news!!!!!!!!
for Text ; http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools for Picture ; http://www.jesmb.de/indexie.htm |
Originally Posted by ismeto
(Post 1788975)
last news!!!!!!!!
for Text ; http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools for Picture ; http://www.jesmb.de/indexie.htm |
Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
(Post 1777656)
I hope they figure out how to beef up the tranny first! :zoom:
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second pcture like more -especially rear- E Class
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New C-Class (W204) Area?
Is anyone in a position to launch a W204 forum area yet?
I can't wait for the 'new' C-Class. I am headed out to the 2007 Geneva Motorshow to see it launch. Any comments, please respond. Regards Marky-Mark :zoom: |
Hi. First post.
Looks like there is a new update on that website ismeto linked to above. The sport version will a 3 spoke steering wheel and the non-sport will have a 4 spoke. Does a visual compare of the 2 grill types as well. Also, it looks like if you don't want the navi, the space for the pop up will be replaced with a recessed color monitor for the radio. Very nice...MB is going all out, even if you don't go all out. ;) Can't wait. http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools Pics: http://www.jesmb.de/indexie.htm Click "15.10.06 Weitere C-Klasse (W204) Details" |
I love it.
Although I hope the brakelights are higher up on the decklid as per the pic on second row. I like a tight nipped and high a**. The front is cool and I like the interior being a little lower with equip near hands. |
but I did not like inside too much :( What a big cool parts ! this is car or refrigerator ,beriefly ugly
I do not think so inside like this , I hope 2005 facelift inside absolutly genious and great |
http://www.jesdc.de/news/news/pics/w204-18.jpg
Is that rite based on the pic above, the new W204 will have AMG wheels that CLS 55 have currently? I am hoping it's right cos those AMG wheels look HOT :D |
last info
C-class W204 further details
The announcement of the new C-class sedan is in January 07. He is delivered starting from March. But already series production started. Mercedes pays attention to highest quality. Classic: An oval exhaust pipe left, painted door handles without chrome, no chrome around the car, no LED rear lights, no chrome shroud around the Zierteile, the TAC hone aristocracy is larger than with the others and goes from the center of the combination instrument out (probably only if no Comand were ordered). With avant-garde and Elegance the small pointer at the exteriors of the Tachos goes along. The star is on the hood. Radio not in series, then also no operating sectors available. Tire: 16 tariff light alloy wheels. Elegance: LED rear lights, chrome shroud of the Zierteile, leather steering wheel and shift lever, two oval final pipes one on the left of the other one right, Tacho with chrome rings, small aerodynamic spoilers on the left and on the right at the front apron; 17 " light alloy wheels Avant-garde: LED rear lights sounded, two oval final pipes one left, the other one right, star in the radiator grille, set lower, 17 " rims, outside chrome and in the interior also the shrouds, as well as the Tacho as with Elegance. The outside mirrors some little like sail ears are away, fulfill new law guidelines. The mirror turn signals became also larger. New equipment: Keyless Go, Linguatronic, large panorama roof as subdivided in E-class (with the T-model the panorama roof is somewhat shorter, DVD change-over switch, Bluetooth mobile phone, Knieairbag. With Thermotronic the climatic mechanism also an operating sector in the rear has. Comand: Be under a cover, if one presses a small button on the cover drives these upward/in the back away and the screen folds out. At a switch at the screen one can stop still the inclination of the screen, which air conditioning system served over the completely normal switches. If the Comand screen is away-folded can one still completely normally radio and CD hear and this over the buttons in the center console serve. Otherwise the operation of the Comand and the menu are identical to that the S-class. Seat heating and Heckfensterrollo are steered completely normally via a switch panel over the air conditioning system. The T-model starts in the autumn. C 63 AMG with approx. 450 HP is pointed to the IAA 07 and delivered starting from first quarter 2008. Also a Black Series model is angedacht. source:http://www.jesmb.de |
Yikes. The 2008 C Class is beginning to sound "expensive". I figured the retail would be similar to the 2007 models, but with all these new features, could this thing cost a couple grand less then a low-end E class?
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I order this ....
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Production W204
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wow the rear is very new CL..ill have to see it in person before i make my decision:confused:
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Not very nice looking, at least from the spy photos. I see they went with the panorama roof for the sedans. Maybe they'll have better luck with them than they had with the coupes.
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Are those Kia rio tailights??? :confused:
I will have to see it in person before I panic, but I do see that the exhaust looks about the same as on the 05-06... I have high hopes for the W204. |
More W204 Details
W204 is larger:
Length + 5cm 1.97" Width + 4cm 1.57" Height + 2cm .79" Wheelbase + 4.2cm 1.65" Trunk + 20L .7 cu ft Fuel Tank + 3L .8 gallons Faster Steering More agile without loss of comfort Tighter body iDrive type control Keyless go Pre-Safe Xenon tracking like 07 W211 3-zone AC Panoramic SR Larger Brakes Flip up nav panel Since production started in October, I believe they will start delivering cars in Europe before the scheduled March inttoduction. That might mean that we might get cars here in late spring rather than as originally planned for September. Just my guess. |
so when will the production of the w203 end? the w204 must be a different plant than the w203....
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I have no idea when producton of the W203's will end. There is no production problem on the line since they already product several different models on the same line at the same time.
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Source?
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yeah i don't like the flat lines..specially the fact that the hood is so flat, it looks more classy than sporty...but like mentioned before i would have to see it in person..
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Is that full scale production, or "test pressings" to proof the build engineering?
Many times several hundred units are made for evaluation to fine tune the quality and assembly process. It also lets suppliers check their JIT (just in time) delivery logistics. The cars may have some features not planned for full production, and are usually sold quietly. |
jesmb.de just posted my information on series production.
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08's in march of 07? No wonder the C-class doesn't hold it's value.:rolleyes:
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Certainly doesn't look as good as the outgoing model at the moment. Perhaps one with an 'AMG Kit' might considerably enhance the appearance; but then again, manufactures tend to introduce those ones with body kits at the end of the production of that series. Mhmm...
Let's wait for a full body view. Tee_Tz. |
I don't believe that the tail lights will look like those in the pilot plant production version. The upper part of the tail light should come up to the top, not cut off as shown. It's possible that since those cars will be on the road they want to hold something back for the final version.
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WOO HOO Man am I glad I got an 07! Not a big fan of that aty all.:wwf:
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Looks like a Toyota! I'm wondering how that will look on a Coupe.
E |
Originally Posted by MB-JIM
(Post 1829858)
<http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/07/2008-mercedes-benz-c-class-exposed/>
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I don't like the body styling much. Although, if I can afford it and it comes here, the C63 is pretty tempting.
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Originally Posted by pmb600
(Post 1831628)
Did anyone notice when you click on the picture of the back of the car there are huge rear head restraints? If Mercedes got rid of the retractable head restraint feature I will be really pissed off.
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Hahahhahha....my oh my, is that one ugly ass.
All you coupe naysayers who didn't like the Coupe tail, bend over. MB is sending your new sedan up, with sand. Kia and Toyota did the rear, Acura, er, the snobby folks at Honda did the nose, and well, it looks like BMW and Pontiac messed up the interior. :rolf: Damn that's nasty. |
Wow, surprised at the reaction.
Personally, I think it looks great. I like the headlights. The line going across the side merging right into the top of the light is great. I like it...a very smooth classy transition. Side mirrors are the only thing that concern me....they just don't flow with the rest of the car. As a first time buyer, I'm excited. I can understand why current C class owners would not be fans of this since it is a relatively drastic change from their models, but I really like it. |
Originally Posted by MB-JIM
(Post 1830837)
I don't believe that the tail lights will look like those in the pilot plant production version. The upper part of the tail light should come up to the top, not cut off as shown. It's possible that since those cars will be on the road they want to hold something back for the final version.
I'm leaning towards this is how it will be in March. In general, I think they are looking for a change...making it look different from previous models. Believe it or not, reminds me of the Dodge Caravan change over a couple of years back...they changed the back by flipping the lights to make it look different. |
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Originally Posted by Nola
(Post 1832227)
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Originally Posted by pmb600
(Post 1832255)
Another thing I just noticed about the car. The picture of the silver one with the hood raised...there are none of those cool little slats on the hood like we have on the 203. That blows I always like the slats even though I don't know their purpose.
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MB's look the best with a sporty and aggressive deisgn so I think the W204 will probably look good with the AMG body kit - but my guess is that it will be pretty pricey to get that kind of setup for the first few years...
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Originally Posted by ismeto
(Post 1801635)
but I did not like inside too much :( What a big cool parts ! this is car or refrigerator ,beriefly ugly
I do not think so inside like this , I hope 2005 facelift inside absolutly genious and great |
Originally Posted by ismeto
but I did not like inside too much What a big cool parts ! this is car or refrigerator ,beriefly ugly
I do not think so inside like this , I hope 2005 facelift inside absolutly genious and great
Originally Posted by Nola
(Post 1832363)
I know you're trying to say something... but I'm not sure what it is... :nix:
Let me try: ismeto: but I did not like inside too much Translation: But I did not really like the interior. ismeto: What a big cool parts ! Translation: What a spacious cold interior! (maybe cool is not referring to the car being "cool" in a positive sense, but rather, that it looks cold an uninviting?) ismeto: this is car or refrigerator Translation: Is this a car or a refrigerator? ismeto: beriefly ugly Translation: Umm.. this car is ugly for a short period of time? ismeto: I do not think so inside like this , I hope Translation: I did not expect the interior to be like this, at least I had hoped it would not be like this. |
Honestly, the way the body stylings look on the w203, I'll probably save up a good amount of money and do an engine swap before buying a w204. I think some portions of it look like a VW Jetta.
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Originally Posted by MB-JIM
(Post 1831797)
One reason I have never considered a BMW is that they do not have retractable rear headrests. I like the best possible rear view. If MB has eliminated the retractible headrests I may re-think my car choices.
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the rear headrests look really cheap and bulky.
ugs. |
what is wrong with mercedes. more examples of removing content from vehicles in an effort to keep prices down.
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Which is the colour ?
it seems Green but diffrent tone or name --dark green, black green ?
Whatever its name, I like it :bow: http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/9018/1af5.png http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5623/2zu5.png to Moderators ! Why don't keep this thread as Sticky ? :crazy: |
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Check out the new undisguised W204..prior to it getting the black wrap for its test run..
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I did see an mpeg test run of the W204 AMG test..Glorious V8...quad exhaust..full black wrappings though..
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Originally Posted by Nola
(Post 1832278)
They are there so that leaves will go through them and collect in some unreachable place under the hood.
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2008 C_coupe ???
shorter is good ? MB says it will be less expensive so this shorter than current .
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/3...sscoupezx2.jpg |
at least i know it is NOT going to be my next car. :evil:
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Originally Posted by MB2006
(Post 1837917)
at least i know it is NOT going to be my next car. :evil:
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Originally Posted by MB2006
(Post 1837917)
at least i know it is NOT going to be my next car. :evil:
I guess I'll have to get an E-Class next. |
that coupe is obviously just some artist's rendition. no way that is real.
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Originally Posted by ismeto
(Post 1837439)
shorter is good ? MB says it will be less expensive so this shorter than current .
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/3...sscoupezx2.jpg |
On one hand I don't like it at all.... But on the other, I think I just like the W203 too much. The W203 actually looked better in every year. I mean the first one was great – the 2004 (or 2005) when the first added the AMG Body Kit looked amazing, and the latest 2007 with the AMG Body Kit and dual exhaust, black interior, looks even more amazing… It’s hard to imagine something better.
It’s funny, a lot of times when Mercedes changes a model my first reaction is disappointment. I’d be like: what the hell were they thinking!! Don’t they get people’s impressions before releasing it?? Do these people know how to design a car?? Are these people stupid the car looks like a Honda, or Cadillac, or this or that... But then I realized something -- what am I thinking -- these people are professionals who study this for a living, this is their job – and in most cases, these are the same people who’ve brought us the E’s, SL’s, S-Class, and yes, the W203. Slowly but surely I start to love the new designs – it’s modern for the times but classic to last a lifetime, I mean surely we can agree that in the year 2020 the W203 won’t look all thaaat good anymore. Let me draw a case of first impressions: the new S-Class. I mean the old 2006 S-Class was soooo beautiful - especially the ones with the AMG body kit, they looked so amazing and I was thinking to myself, why change that! That looks hot! At first I resisted the new one – I thought it’s too soon, give this shape one more year – or give me 4 more years so I can afford one before you oust it. But slowly and surely the new one came and after seeing it, I didn’t just accept it, I loved it. It’s beautiful, it’s modern, it’s classy, and it’s techie… hey! It’s an S-Class. And I felt the same with the BMW 7-Series, 5-Series and 3-Series. So it’s funny, while we’re sitting here trashing the car (me included; although we’re not trashing it – just giving our first impressions) – I wonder whether if we went back to the old posts in the W202 Forum whether they were once trashing the W203… It’s funny like that, but 1 thing I can assure you folks, who like me have trouble accepting the new controversial designs, Mercedes-Benz have always produced brilliant cars and they never mess up. So on that note – it’s just a matter of time before we all start listing our cars in the classifieds section or run to the dealerships trying to trade our outdated W203’s in. Just one point of view. Tee_Tz. |
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/9018/1af5.png
That butt is just plain ulgy. But I can't wait to see it in person though. Maybe in person it might be better. |
Heres my PhotoShop impression of the AMG version:
https://i106.photobucket.com/albums/...TZ/w204amg.jpg https://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5623/2zu5.png |
Originally Posted by BBW
(Post 1839409)
Heres my PhotoShop impression of the AMG version:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...TZ/w204amg.jpg |
i like it a lot :y can't wait for the release.
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Originally Posted by BBW
(Post 1839409)
Heres my PhotoShop impression of the AMG version:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...TZ/w204amg.jpg |
Originally Posted by ScottW911
(Post 1839608)
Actually, someone beat you to the punch. I've had this sitting on my computer for several months. I thought I had copied it for this forum. If it's repeat, sorry.
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Originally Posted by BBW
(Post 1839612)
Mines from the final version though :cool:
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Trunk Capacity
I have read from several sources that the trunk capacity will be 475 L.
That would make the trunk 16.77 Cubic Feet which is larger than the S Class 16.3 Cubic Feet. The only way I think they can get this capacity is to no longer include a spare tire. They probably reason that sinice BMW doesn't include a spare in their 3 Series, why should they in the C Class. It would be another cost savings along with reduced weight. |
(Real) W204 AMG version
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like these shoots
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......Still with the Monster-Truck side-view mirrors, eh?
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Originally Posted by ScottW911
(Post 1843339)
......Still with the Monster-Truck side-view mirrors, eh?
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I like the headlights...
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Originally Posted by ScottW911
(Post 1843339)
......Still with the Monster-Truck side-view mirrors, eh?
http://www.edmunds.com/media/news/co...ursion.500.jpg |
This is what I saw in Winding Road's online magazine:
http://news.windingroad.com/auto-new...-benz-c-class/ |
don't like it, but will have to see the acutal car
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doesn't it look like the car was in an accident or something? like the back of the car got squished in?
http://news.windingroad.com/wp-conte.../c-class-2.jpg |
Originally Posted by ctC230K
(Post 1847670)
doesn't it look like the car was in an accident or something? like the back of the car got squished in?
http://news.windingroad.com/wp-conte.../c-class-2.jpg |
Originally Posted by mj50
(Post 1847691)
the tails look like honda civic :(
http://www.edmunds.com/media/roadtes....civic.340.jpg |
[QUOTE=ctC230K;1847670]doesn't it look like the car was in an accident or something? like the back of the car got squished in?
yeah, rear end looks alittle tiny for the size of the car. Almost looks like a hatchback. not feeling this at all. Doesn't matter anyway, I'm in love with the 335i coupe. Can't wait till my lease is up! :) |
The rear looks good to me. Just can't wait to see the front. Should be sharp-looking and sporty.
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Originally Posted by GPI
(Post 1848672)
The rear looks good to me. Just can't wait to see the front. Should be sharp-looking and sporty.
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2008 C Class Finished Shots
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Looks like they have finished it
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Mods, Maybe we should merge this one with all the other threads showing these shots.
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gimme the c63!
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One last time...
Search first, PLEASE, people. There is an official w204 thread.
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Production photo of C204 Sport
Check WorldCarFans.com for photo of pre-production C204 Sport built at the Bremen plant.
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here is a pic
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Wow, that grill is huge...Of course, I'm not going for the Sport anyways so it doesn't bother me.
Not a fan of the trunk. |
I think the headlights are not what they are suppose to look like base upon the disguised pics posted previously.
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I hope so. They are fairly plain looking...need to borrow more from the S class!
Also, I am waiting to see the standard version (star on hood, not in the grill). Haven't seen any new spy pics of that in months. However, if it looks like the below, I would be impressed. Based on the above Sport pic, I think the below is legit as well: http://www.jesdc.de/news/news/pics/w204-19.jpg |
Star and Coupe
I think, for Mercedes , Star -especially its saloon cars- not good looking like this shot.
here there is sentence ; Driver must show the Star in Mercedes Coupe is coming back ? they say; http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphoto...lass-uncovered |
judging by the picture above..if you cover the benz sign in the grill..it looks like a dogde...lines just don't flow...but better see it in person
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New C class, not too impressed with it
Hopefully the one with AMG package will look (much) better
http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphot...123.002.1M.jpg http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphot...002.mini2L.jpg |
Guess they're not really trying anymore these days over at DC.
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definately ugly...the mirrors aint even the same color as the car thats wack..........
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Originally Posted by dnasty8305
(Post 1856089)
definately ugly...the mirrors aint even the same color as the car thats wack..........
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that front grill is hideous, it so massive. it does not match the car. oh well, at least we have a w203 :Y
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Hard to tell from that angle - but:
The body looks like it was stolen from an Accord. The headlights look kind of like a BMW. The grill is just WAY too much - whatever happened to subtlety and distinction? The non-color matched mirrors are just plain cheap. All in all it looks like it was put together by a comittee trying to come up with something fresh from an old parts bin - I think they have done nothing but make it look like just about every other commodity sedan on the road. YAWN....:tear: |
I just noticed there is no hood emblem.... Is mb trying to ditch the hood emblem?
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Do you guys remember the last gen BMW 325i; when it first came out, it had non-matched bumpers, mirrors, and the trunk latch was also unpainted. In order to have everything painted and matched, you had to shell out for a 330i.
I think MB is going for that distinction. Perhaps they want the base model C to look like ASS, and try to spruce up the loaded model. Just a thought. |
I think it has a little too much "flame surfacing". :smash:
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Ew. Front grille has gots to go!
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Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
(Post 1856312)
Ew. Front grille has gots to go!
haha word that grill looks like it belongs on a ML |
i never like it when i first saw the picture
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I don't like the headlights .. The two "merged" round headlights on our W203 look better ..
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Originally Posted by coin
(Post 1856372)
I don't like the headlights .. The two "merged" round headlights on our W203 look better ..
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I'm pretty sure that the grill (and possibly the headlights, as well) are photoshopped. If you look at the germancarfan's article, it says that the tape was removed digitally for the picture you see above. So you dont have to worry about the big ugly grill....yet
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Originally Posted by NYR99
(Post 1854314)
I hope so. They are fairly plain looking...need to borrow more from the S class!
Also, I am waiting to see the standard version (star on hood, not in the grill). Haven't seen any new spy pics of that in months. However, if it looks like the below, I would be impressed. Based on the above Sport pic, I think the below is legit as well: http://www.jesdc.de/news/news/pics/w204-19.jpg |
Originally Posted by Pashap5
(Post 1854620)
judging by the picture above..if you cover the benz sign in the grill..it looks like a dogde...lines just don't flow...but better see it in person
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I read somewhere that all the Sport models will have the grill star and no hood star. I hate that, I love my hood star and its not going anywhere anytime soon!
I do like that picture that NYR99 posted above of the luxury version of the car, it looks nice. |
Originally Posted by pmb600
(Post 1857149)
I read somewhere that all the Sport models will have the grill star and no hood star. I hate that, I love my hood star and its not going anywhere anytime soon!
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Originally Posted by mj50
(Post 1847691)
the tails look like honda civic :(
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Originally Posted by TruTaing
(Post 1856232)
I just noticed there is no hood emblem.... Is mb trying to ditch the hood emblem?
Like pmb600 stated, the Sport (the red one pictured in this thread) is the sport, which does not have the star on the hood, but rather then MB star in the grill. Again, more proof as to why we shouldn't be going off of this picture. They even admitted to photshopping some of it, so it's open to interpatation, especially the grill! |
Don't think anyone posted this.
From http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools On the occasion of the anniversary to 50 years DaimlerChrysler production in Brazil admits given that starting from that 1. Quarter will come 2007 C-class the Sportcoupé, main intended for the export to Europe, in Juiz de Fora (Brazil) off the line. The moreover one preparations for the next generation of the Sportcoupés are made, which is to be produced starting from approx. 2008. It essentially develops on the current Sportcoupé, receives however beside a new outer hull also new engines. |
the main thing MB had going for it was its good style/looks..but after seeing these pictures..I feel that alot of buyers are going to move away from the brand. what got me interested in MB in the first place was C55's awesome style , then the w210 etc. Now, I think MB has lost its direction, unique identity and the strongest reason why people chose it..THAT IT IS NOT A ACURA/TOYOTA
oh well get the old "classics' before they are gone. |
I dont think they will look bad i just think it is time to revolucionize all the models again so they had to do it i mean its time already
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We finally have a date!
The New 2008 Mercedes C-class will be unveiled on January 18th, 2007. http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2006/12...-unveiled.html While searching the net for more info concerning the validity or not of a pic we found this morning featuring the 2008 Mercedes GLK –or-MLK, we stumble upon a very interesting article on Automobilwoche, which is a sister publication of Autonews. According to the German news-zine, the next generation Mercedes C-Class will be presented for the first time on January the 18th in Stuttgart, with its public premiere following in March at the Geneva Motor Show (sales start in Europe on April). New Image from South Africa. Looks fantastic in white! This is what I expected! http://www.autospies.com/images/user...218-125453.jpg |
Sorry, thought this deserved it's own post. Apparantly, these are some shots that have been prepared for the 18th.
http://media.autobild.de/bild/3/0258...cffefab3_1.jpg http://media.autobild.de/bild/0/2c74...18334b30_1.jpg I love it!! Those pics of the Red Sport that were released a couple of weeks ago do not do justice for the w204!!! |
Curious- Are there any interior shots of the new "C"?
I am hoping MB hasn't followed BMW down the cheap & fugly road.....:crazy:
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I ono... i swear the rear end looks alot like the w211, but w/ a slightly different shaped taillight.....
-j0hn |
I like it.
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I'm liking the looks of it from the rear. I can already see the quad tail pipes for the C63. Can't wait to see it in WHITE! :y
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Originally Posted by NYR99
(Post 1902603)
Sorry, thought this deserved it's own post. Apparantly, these are some shots that have been prepared for the 18th.
http://media.autobild.de/bild/3/0258...cffefab3_1.jpg http://media.autobild.de/bild/0/2c74...18334b30_1.jpg I love it!! Those pics of the Red Sport that were released a couple of weeks ago do not do justice for the w204!!! |
Originally Posted by TA-9FF
(Post 1902781)
If this is what the new W204 production will look like, then I dig it. I STILL think the outside mirrors are too big though...........
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imo, the w203 is still better looking..but it looks very similar to the 3 -series especially the side 'flaming' surface , and the rear end treatment.
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W203 would turn way more heads then the new W204s. The new ones just look like an old-folk retirement car :nix:
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The rear looks great. I'm really waiting for the official unveiling of it. Hope the mirrors are smaller and the interior looks great!
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I think it was discussed a page back the the mirrors will be smaller in North America, and that they are bigger in the pics due to European guidelines, or something to that effect....
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I like, I like... The ones in South Africa look like the 'real photos', and it looks good. I suppose we'll soon be seeing the 'real thing' anyway. Hopefully they'll have an AMG kit for it and it'll look aggressive. So far in the pictures I see, it looks more luxurious than sports sedan.
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I'm very pleased to see that the mirrors are larger. I"m willing to sacrifice appearance for better rear visibility. The W203/211 mirrors are too small for safety.
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Originally Posted by M230K
(Post 1903065)
W203 would turn way more heads then the new W204s. The new ones just look like an old-folk retirement car :nix:
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Originally Posted by NYR99
(Post 1903374)
I think it was discussed a page back the the mirrors will be smaller in North America, and that they are bigger in the pics due to European guidelines, or something to that effect....
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back end looks very A6 ish to me anyways.
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Wow, it looks disappointingly like the Acura TL from the front, just different head lights. The sides, shape, and stance are really similar. I hope it comes out differently.
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I agree the W203 has more style. Softer Porsche like features. Smooth curves. Headlight shape looks more unique. Very proportional car. Interior does look more expensive too. You can't confuse it with any other car.
The 204 trunk looks smaller (stubby), car height looks higher, Headlights & tails look like a japanese car, no offense. Looks like they used more plastics on the interior console. The C63 with AMG styling may be the only version of this car I would consider because of AMG's aggresive styling... and the engine! Base models will definitely need a aftermarket facelift. Let's see what Lorinser, Brabus & Carlsson come up with!!! |
No clear shots of the finished car but here is a short video of the W204 under development testing:
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2006/12...-official.html |
New C?
Does anyone have a definite date on the new C class? My dealer is saying possibly in February. I have read other places that it wont come till next october... I am thinking about leasing a current C230 for 27month and dont mind driving the old body style for a year but I dont want to get a C230 then have it change in 2 months. Anyways I have until the 31st to decide on either the C230, G35, or A4.
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Trust me, I've owned several new MBs, never buy a new model from MB the first year or two. They are horrible. I bought one of the first shipment of W201, they did a lemon law buyback, gave me a new one, that one needed a tranny, horn, radio in the first 2 weeks. I bought a W203 coupe the first month it came out, 17 times in the shop the first year. The current E was horrible the first year or two, lots of problems. Get a 2007 and drive the heck out of it for 27 months and then get a nice deal on a 2009 or 2010 and you'll be much happier, yet less trendier.
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Originally Posted by Buellwinkle
(Post 1907611)
Trust me, I've owned several new MBs, never buy a new model from MB the first year or two. They are horrible. I bought one of the first shipment of W201, they did a lemon law buyback, gave me a new one, that one needed a tranny, horn, radio in the first 2 weeks. I bought a W203 coupe the first month it came out, 17 times in the shop the first year. The current E was horrible the first year or two, lots of problems. Get a 2007 and drive the heck out of it for 27 months and then get a nice deal on a 2009 or 2010 and you'll be much happier, yet less trendier.
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I agree with buell, I had the same experience..with my Coupe and my W202..have to wait a few years for the model to prove itself..
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With enough cars signed up, I'll have initial reliability results on the new car 4-6 months after it goes on sale. Bit of an "if" with Mercedes, as I'm not collecting data on any Mercedes models yet.
My suspicion is that people who care about reliability info don't buy Mercedes. Audi owners aren't much different. People on an Audi forum even told me, "If you care about reliability, don't buy an Audi." BMW owners are more interested. There are already 44 2006 3-Series in the panel. Most I have for any C-Class are 17, for the 2005. |
Every car maker has some bad ones that come off the assembly line, can't let some people on an enthusiast forum change your mind. I'd recommend Audi, mine has been great for the 2 years and 54k miles I've had it so far. The current A4 body will expire probably late '07 early '08 as the B8 chassis comes out but the current body has proven itself.
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they just changed the look on the g35. the front end looks like a cls. i dont really like the new look for audi....you minus well get a volkswagen for cheaper.
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difference between a VW and Audi are much different now than in the past...Audi is worlds better than VWs now. But I guess that'll always be up for debate...
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The W204's should be the most relieble cars ever for Mercedes right out of the block. Motor Trend said:
"Mercedes recognizes that its image as a builder of trustworthy and long-lived velicles has taken a knock, so the new car has done more test mileage than any Mercedes model before it, according to the automaker. Some 280 prototypes covered a total of 140 million test miles worldwide." I would have no hesitancy to buy a W204 as soon as they are availabe. My 2006 C350 is the most reliable car I have ever owned. |
Originally Posted by MB-JIM
(Post 1910276)
The W204's should be the most relieble cars ever for Mercedes right out of the block. Motor Trend said:
"Mercedes recognizes that its image as a builder of trustworthy and long-lived velicles has taken a knock, so the new car has done more test mileage than any Mercedes model before it, according to the automaker. Some 280 prototypes covered a total of 140 million test miles worldwide." I would have no hesitancy to buy a W204 as soon as they are availabe. My 2006 C350 is the most reliable car I have ever owned. And they supposedly did this with 280 cars? For a total of at least 2.8 million hours? No way. Aside from the time, the cost would be astronomical. It costs at least $100 per hour to support a German engineer. So we'd be talking $280 million just to pay people to conduct durability testing. That number must be off by at least a factor of ten. No fault on your part. It is in Motor Trend here: http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...s_benz_c_class Sorry, but this is :bs: Author is Paul Horrell. Clearly quality control isn't his strength, even when discussing quality. Your car is near the end of the current generation. I hope it's reliable. One thing I've noticed even with unreliable models, though, is that many of their owners can have zero problems. The average problem rate is that low these days. |
I agree with you mb-jim. I'm really waiting for it to be released.
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Originally Posted by mkaresh
(Post 1910444)
That averages out to 500,000 miles per prototype. Let's say they averaged 50 MPH, which is a stretch. This would be 10,000 hours per car. You'd have to drive the car around the clock for over a year to rack up that many miles. Simply impossible, even for a single car.
And they supposedly did this with 280 cars? For a total of at least 2.8 million hours? No way. Aside from the time, the cost would be astronomical. It costs at least $100 per hour to support a German engineer. So we'd be talking $280 million just to pay people to conduct durability testing. That number must be off by at least a factor of ten. No fault on your part. It is in Motor Trend here: http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...s_benz_c_class Sorry, but this is :bs: Author is Paul Horrell. Clearly quality control isn't his strength, even when discussing quality. Your car is near the end of the current generation. I hope it's reliable. One thing I've noticed even with unreliable models, though, is that many of their owners can have zero problems. The average problem rate is that low these days. Almost had it declared a lemon until the dealer found the issue to be related to a bad wires leading to ECU...:rolleyes: from then on it was a great ride. Point is every manufacture goes through this with any changes in a popular line up. Look at BMW and the redesign of the 740... nothing but electrical issue with the center console. took one year to fix and educate how to use a "joystick / Mouse" If it was not for the third kid coming I would jump into a 204 but instead am looking at 211.... no if I can Just get my wife to agree :cool: |
I use a trick or two to make three kids in the back of a compact very doable. In fact, I do it nearly every day.
One thing that's far from obvious on forums like this one is that even for relatively unreliable models most owners have few or even no problems. The average is so low these days that it doesn't take much to be "much worse than average." With any car you're odds of having no problems at all are much higher than people think. That's why I'm focusing on absolute rather than relative reliability stats in my own research. That way, people might see that even if the car they want isn't the most reliable we're just talking about an extra trip or two to the shop the whole time they'll own it. |
There are some new spyshots of the front end of the 204 C-Class and several with the headlights revealed! Check out this website:
http://jesmb.de/indexie.htm Click on W204 under the news section. I have to say I think I like the front end much better than I originally thought I would. And so it begins...I'm sure by the official reveal date I will be completely in love with the car... |
in one of the pics of the rear it looks like that it is going to finally have LED turn signals and back up lamps...not too sure...but if you enlarge the pic you will know what i mean..
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don't get the first year car even though all the issues will be covered, but you just don't want to bring the car to dealer all the time |
Originally Posted by Pashap5
(Post 1914226)
in one of the pics of the rear it looks like that it is going to finally have LED turn signals and back up lamps...not too sure...but if you enlarge the pic you will know what i mean..
I also saw a short thing in Automobile mag yesterday about the C-Class it said it will get Keyless Go, Panorama roof, among tech options. |
This month's car and driver magazine has the latest picture of the new W204. It caption states that the new c-class will be in showrooms floors this summer.
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Headlights look fantastic. I'm all but sold.
15 days and counting.... Translated text from jesmb: In the picture it is good to recognize that the turn signals consist in the tail lamps of LED lights. As is the case for the E-class Mopf avant-garde gets also the C-class avant-garde the two chrome Zierstreifen around the nebula lights. The CONTROLLER, admits also as Comand CONTROLLER, is also present with the radios version and the audio 50 APS. The moreover one one recognizes in the pictures that the first picture is in the upper row a Elegance, which does not have a ILS. The vehicles in the pictures at night have that intelligently Light system. (Thanks at Alessandro and Ilija for the photos at night) |
More pics....less camo, but still covered up. Last pic is the best one:
http://www.autoblog.nl/images/wp/Mer...ts%2012-06.jpg http://www.autoblog.nl/images/wp/Mer...%20%286%29.jpg http://www.autoblog.nl/images/wp/Mer...%20%285%29.jpg http://www.autoblog.nl/images/wp/Mer...%20%281%29.jpg Also, pulled this from CarSpyShots: C 180 Kompressor, 4-Zyl. 1796 cm3; 156 PS; 223 km/h C 200 Kompressor, 4-Zyl. 1796 cm3; 184 PS; 235 km/h C 230 V6 2496 cm3; 204 PS; 240 km/h C 280 V6 2996 cm3; 231 PS; 250 km/h C 350 V6 3498 cm3; 272 PS; 250 km/h C 200 CDI 4-Zyl. 2148 cm3; 136 PS; 215 km/h C 220 CDI 4-Zyl. 2148 cm3; 170 PS; 229 km/h C 320 CDI V6 2987 cm3; 224 PS; 250 km/h C 350 CGI V6 3498 cm3; 292 PS; 250 km/h C 63 AMG V8 6208 cm3; 450 PS; 250 km/h autozeitung.de |
Spy shots new C-Class
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Took these this morning on the N 605 Fwy in SoCal with my handy Blackjack phone. I believe it's the new W204 C-Class. They certainly don't like you taking pics of them...he tried to get away but eventually gave in. Couldn't get a clear front shot. Enjoy...
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Still don't like it, why they are making it bigger?:)
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Very cool! (the pics that is, still not sure on the design :nix: )
Thanks for posting. |
good spy work Mr. V
should come work with me !! :D:D :D |
Originally Posted by Saprissa
(Post 1920831)
good spy work Mr. V
should come work with me !! :D:D :D |
Well done. I didn't know I should be on the look out for the W204 in SoCal. I'll keep an eye out now.
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if you see the W204, drag it with you to the Mercedes-Benz Tri-State Meet on January 20th, in Irvine, CA.
MBUSA should take advantage of captive audiences and seek their views/opinions. Something to build on from the W203 experience. Carlos :zoom: Saprissa@aol.com |
Originally Posted by washoor
(Post 1920562)
Still don't like it, why they are making it bigger?:)
Getting in and out of the back seat of a C240 is not that easy. I'm 5' 9" and 170 so I am not an old man or big. Knee room as I call it isn't that great either and putting a child seat back there cna be catasrophic on my laid back seat style so I make my wife suffer when we keep my neices. ;) It could be a little bigger in the back seat but I could deal with a smaller trunk to keep the size down. Good job on the pic's. You clowned that dude running around in a ghetto style MB. ;) I bet he was like, "(*&^ those MBWorld.org fanatics!" |
its getting closer and closer guys.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Vanos
(Post 1920554)
Took these this morning on the N 605 Fwy in SoCal with my handy Blackjack phone. I believe it's the new W204 C-Class. They certainly don't like you taking pics of them...he tried to get away but eventually gave in. Couldn't get a clear front shot. Enjoy...
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anyone wanna play GTA?
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W204 Design Details
<http://www.theautochannel.com/link.html?http://www.eMercedesBenz.com/>
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Jim, all I'm seeing is a bad link.:nix:
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Just try the autochannel.com
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It works at http://www.eMercedesBenz.com I have no doubts that MB can engineer the best cars in the world. Unfortunately, it loses something in the translation when it gets to manufacturing, specially the first year. I'm looking forward to the Chery, is that coming out for 2008?
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Over 15 Million Miles Covered : The Testing Of The New Mercedes C-Class
Over 50 photos of the new 2008 C-Class being tested. All the photos enlarge if you click them. Have fun, there are a ton!
http://emercedesbenz.com/Jan07/09_Ov...C_Class_1.html http://emercedesbenz.com/Images/Jan0...6c4637_014.jpg |
Merged all the newest threads, in case people were wondering.
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Originally Posted by Buellwinkle
(Post 1927078)
It works at http://www.eMercedesBenz.com I have no doubts that MB can engineer the best cars in the world. Unfortunately, it loses something in the translation when it gets to manufacturing, specially the first year. I'm looking forward to the Chery, is that coming out for 2008?
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I think its hilarious that car is almost exactly like the supposed photoshops that surfaced nearly four years ago!
Still don't like it. |
I think the new C-Class looks great, they changed it just enough.
Originally Posted by AshleyAlissa
(Post 1927168)
Over 50 photos of the new 2008 C-Class being tested. All the photos enlarge if you click them. Have fun, there are a ton!
http://emercedesbenz.com/Jan07/09_Ov...C_Class_1.html http://emercedesbenz.com/Images/Jan0...6c4637_014.jpg |
http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphot...123.002.1L.jpg
Nice looking but not as classy as the W203... the lines dont flow... |
if it wasn't for the STAR, i'd say it's just another AUDI/VW that Hyundai and Kia are going to copy.
I think I'll buy an old 1980's AMG. https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...1&d=1168129861 |
That car looks horibble if it going to look like that. I dont know what is wrong with Mercedes Benz new car designs. They are making them look like Toyotas, and Kias. Dont get me wrong we do need to wait until the car is actually released to be the judge. But the W203 has to be the best looking car for entry level Mercedes Benz.
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I dont know about the W204 it doesnt look right
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look at page 11, and this one.
http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/...06c4055_06.jpg we need more pics of the interior. ? |
I think this was the link you were looking for
http://emercedesbenz.com/Jan07/09_Th...totypes_1.html
Originally Posted by MB-JIM
(Post 1926827)
<http://www.theautochannel.com/link.html?http://www.eMercedesBenz.com/>
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I dont know about this new design. Looks like I be keepin the W203 for a long time. Not impressed
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W203 Vs The New And Upcoming W204 Pros And Cons What Do You Think ?
Well I own a 05 C230 SS W203 Mercedes Benz and I absolutely love the car. I mean the sports suspension, amg bumper, and the Bi-Xenons give the car the most agressive look. I also like that this model has the 4cyl engine, and Kompressor Supercharger unlike the 06-07 models. It gives it a bit of an edge. I like the design of this body type. With the new BMW out and the up and coming W204, I still think this is the W203 has the best body for a car today in looks alone. Its just something about this car that stands out. It all goes back to the W201 and the W202. There similar and just alike in a way. But if you add Bi-Xenons Projectors to the W202 it stands out for a good classic car. The new W204 just doesnt look too good. I dont know whats been going on with these designs. For performance Im sure it will be better but the car looks like some sort of toyota, honda, or kia lol. Perfect example the W215 can be called the best designed Mercedes Benz. The new W216 looks like a toyota solara. But I think us W203 guys will have a distinctive car on the road once the W204 comes out. Any imputs
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Unfortunetely, I respect your opinion but I will totally disagree.
The W204 is much, much needed. The W203 is just embarrasing when it comes to power. It's competiting against Honda Civics, Jetta's and Mistubishi's. The W204 I think is almost 2 years late, so it's about time. I think also the W203 had great styling, but that was it. The W204 will likely have much enhanced technology (inside and out -- play MP3 CDs, better navigation, etc), improvement in a much more sporty ride (like BMW's), and offer an updated look - although the W203 doesn't look dated (yet). But trust me, when the W204 is out in it's 2nd or 3rd year, the 2005 C-Class with the AMG Body kit will start looking like the 1998 C-Class (W202). It always happens, it's the evolution of cars. No offense to US C-Class (W203) owners. I just feel a serious upgrade was needed. I've got the C320 (2003) and the 330i (2003) and the differences are immaculate. It's night and day and I'd like to see Mercedes offer a very good competiting product. I know the E-Class is Mercedes' bread and butter, hence they prioritize that more, however, it's about time they paid mind to the C-Class. Trust me sick_benz if you give it a chance, you'll learn to fall in love with it. Tee_Tz. |
that's how W202 owners felt about the W203...
it's the natural evolution of MB owners... I say go backwards... from W203 go to W202, and then W201 and so on... you gotta love the STAR !! |
I will reserve my opinion on the W204 until I actually see one. The outgoing W203 was a very pretty car, especially the sport models.
Speaking of the W203, the 2005 (and late 2004) model may be the highpoint of the C230's. It benefitted from the face-lift and the better dashboard layout. The supercharged 1.8L (M271) was both more powerful and more economical than the 2.5L V-6 that replaced it, despite MB's claims to the contrary. The 6-speed manual transmission was a dream to drive with either engine, but the M271 seemed to be a slightly better match (more torque). :zoom: |
Originally Posted by tee_tz
(Post 1931401)
Unfortunetely, I respect your opinion but I will totally disagree.
The W204 is much, much needed. The W203 is just embarrasing when it comes to power. It's competiting against Honda Civics, Jetta's and Mistubishi's. The W204 I think is almost 2 years late, so it's about time. I think also the W203 had great styling, but that was it. The W204 will likely have much enhanced technology (inside and out -- play MP3 CDs, better navigation, etc), improvement in a much more sporty ride (like BMW's), and offer an updated look - although the W203 doesn't look dated (yet). But trust me, when the W204 is out in it's 2nd or 3rd year, the 2005 C-Class with the AMG Body kit will start looking like the 1998 C-Class (W202). It always happens, it's the evolution of cars. No offense to US C-Class (W203) owners. I just feel a serious upgrade was needed. I've got the C320 (2003) and the 330i (2003) and the differences are immaculate. It's night and day and I'd like to see Mercedes offer a very good competiting product. I know the E-Class is Mercedes' bread and butter, hence they prioritize that more, however, it's about time they paid mind to the C-Class. Trust me sick_benz if you give it a chance, you'll learn to fall in love with it. Tee_Tz. I really don't want to form too much of an opinion before the car is actually released. Spy photos may just not do the car it's justice. I want to wait until it's actually released before forming an opinion. |
When I first got to college, I loved the w202 (body styling). When the w203 came out, I loved the body styling even more than the 202. When the actual pics of the w204 came out, I was both sad and happy. Sad that the body styling took a step backwards. Happy that I liked how my w203 looked so much better than the w204. The only reason I can tell is when I got my car, I could've left it bone stock and I still would've loved how it looked. Obviously, I decided I wanted mine to be more unique. When I look at the w204, it is not a car that I could say looks great bone stock. If I were to get one, I'd probably get a body kit immediately after buying it and that's not the normal progression I take in modifying my cars (in fact, it's always the last thing for me).
The only part of the w204 chassis that really has me intrigued is the C63. I'm sure there will be body kits available as the years go by, but I'm glad I went with the w203 early on. The performance (stock) on the w204's will be there compared to the w203 models (w/ exception to '06-'07), but at the same time, I'm hoping that my car will be pushing some good power soon, w/ the small i4 m271 I have in the engine bay. |
Originally Posted by e1000
(Post 1931499)
Isn't the W204 slated to have the same M272 engines in the current W203 C230/350? You can also play MP3 CD's in the W203 via the CD Changer. I think you might be a little suprised at how much different the 2005+ C-class is, especially the C350 and of course, the C55.
I really don't want to form too much of an opinion before the car is actually released. Spy photos may just not do the car it's justice. I want to wait until it's actually released before forming an opinion. I agree that the W203 looks good, but I'm sure the W204 will look better. I don't think there's any Mercedes (current/redesigned model) that doesn't look better than the previous generation. It always happens, and just like the example of how I'm sure when the W203 came out W202 owners must have said it looked ugly, some day we'll look bad that we called the W204 ugly. Tee_Tz. |
But like mentioned before the W204 doesnt look good at all.
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I think the new W204 design will grow on me after the face lift. Its strange how a a few tweaks can really change the cars appearance. As for my 2005 C230 W203 I love it and plan on keeping it for a long time. The body shape is perfect and love all the curves. I made the right choice picking the only year with the facelifted M271 engine. Sure it is underpowered but is fun maxing it out around corners. Its a great daily driver for all the miles I rack up here in So Cal.
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Originally Posted by tee_tz
(Post 1931586)
I hope not! :eek: I mean 181 torque is not where Mercedes-Benz should be at. I mean Audi, BMW, Acura, Honda, and some many others are simply out doing Mercedes at this point.
I agree that the W203 looks good, but I'm sure the W204 will look better. I don't think there's any Mercedes (current/redesigned model) that doesn't look better than the previous generation. It always happens, and just like the example of how I'm sure when the W203 came out W202 owners must have said it looked ugly, some day we'll look bad that we called the W204 ugly. Tee_Tz. |
The reason why I wouldnt trade in my W203:
Going by the pictures that appeared on the internet, I must say that the interior of at least the first years W204 is ugly as hell. I totally dislike the steering wheel and the middle console doesnt look appealing to me either. I knew what i would get with the purchase of a C230, performance wise, so I wouldnt complain about it now. There was the window for more power, but that includes paying more for a bigger engine which I think is non-sense for the american highway since everything above the already boring speed-limit is illegal. |
Originally Posted by drexappeal
(Post 1932302)
I think the new front end (facelift) on the E class (w211) looks uglier than the earlier w211's.
EDIT: How can you guys form such strong opinions on a car that hasn't even officially been released? :nix: |
Originally Posted by Blake P
(Post 1932428)
Agreed, except for the E63's. The styling is sharper and more aggressive on the AMG model, but looks silly on the non-AMG's. Have you seen the guy in the E55/63 forum with the blacked out grille and HRE's?! :eek:
EDIT: How can you guys form such strong opinions on a car that hasn't even officially been released? :nix: As for the w204, I'm just basing it on the spy shots they have and I don't like it. It may be one of those cars that looks better in person, but in comparison to my reaction of the w203 spy shots (when they first were released), I'd say that I don't think I'll like it even when seeing it in person. |
I've bought MB's on their first year out a few times and let me tell you, it's the biggest mistake you can make with cars. My W201 in '83 was horrible, taken back under the lemon law, the replacement I got in '84 was worse in some ways, same with the W203, my 2002 C230 was also horrible, my 2004.5 C230 is perfect. So even if I loved the W204, and it's hard to say from spy shots, I would never buy a 2008 model but appreciate the beta testers that do. 2008 would be the time to get the BMW 325i, it's had a chance to work it's bugs out.
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Originally Posted by Buellwinkle
(Post 1932596)
I've bought MB's on their first year out a few times and let me tell you, it's the biggest mistake you can make with cars. My W201 in '83 was horrible, taken back under the lemon law, the replacement I got in '84 was worse in some ways, same with the W203, my 2002 C230 was also horrible, my 2004.5 C230 is perfect. So even if I loved the W204, and it's hard to say from spy shots, I would never buy a 2008 model but appreciate the beta testers that do. 2008 would be the time to get the BMW 325i, it's had a chance to work it's bugs out.
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Originally Posted by tee_tz
(Post 1931586)
I hope not! :eek: I mean 181 torque is not where Mercedes-Benz should be at. I mean Audi, BMW, Acura, Honda, and some many others are simply out doing Mercedes at this point.
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I remember when the first new E class came out in the late nineties, I thought that the oval headlights made it look like a sad car. Over time we got used to it and eventually it looked modern and hip. When the E came out in 2003 it was a much better take on the previous generation, HOWEVER the current E face lift ~2007 looks bad. The grill has a cheesy Korean look (Kia, Hyundai) or a tacky American land yacht design, I think that they missed the mark with this grill. The vertical bars visible in the grill, as well as the point down and the size make the car ugly from the front.
As far as the W204, we have to wait and see until it hits the road and see the car firsthand rather than doctered spy photos. I do think the rear looks a bit generic, something from Honda or Toyota and the sweeping curve down the side is a rip-off of the new 3 series. Some pictures made the car look great and others were a let down. We'll have to see once the car is launched. As far as the new S-class, I both love and hate it. While it does look elegant I am not quite sure of the PT-Cruiser type fender bulges (these are not flares), as well as the refined Bangle butt. Round fender bulges had their place in the 40's and 50's, the S class does look better in life than in photos. Again on the same topic, the last CL looked great, not too sure about the new one, it looks way too big With anything it will take time to adjust and accept. I do think that both MB and BMW products age more gracefully compared to products from Japan. While there are several Japanese cars that have a Wow look to them, they do however look dated when the next generation comes along. I still see lots of W202 on the road and although they had a plain and boring look to them from the very start, they don't look as old as a Camry or Accord from the same vintage |
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Latest pictures of the W204 C-class with the AMG Sport package.
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That is really awesome! I must see when it is totally undisguised.
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Why does this car look like a BMW with the center console? I like the center we have, just look more sexy/classy...
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More interior pics...not sure why they are fuzzy:
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2...7114711ez4.jpg http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5...7114712al8.jpg Exterior: http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/911...7114713uf2.jpg http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/186...7114714na4.jpg 4 more days.... |
AMG looks alright, much better than non-AMG body kit, but even if I had a regular 204, I'd most likely get a body kit as soon as it would be available.
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Brochure pics courtesy of Vivaki from Germancarzone.
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I still don't like the interior all that much, but the car is growing on me. These cars usually look better with black interiors though. There isn't enough wood around the dash! Also I'm guessing that with the 204 it will be harder/impossible to retrofit the COMAND system.
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that front grille does not work at all. very tack ./me shakes head
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2008 C-Class brochure leaked online. Link inside
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/15/o...leaked-on-web/
Now give me a C63 with AWD and Automatic and I will be happy. |
Originally Posted by TT C6
(Post 1937991)
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/15/o...leaked-on-web/
Now give me a C63 with AWD and Automatic and I will be happy. |
hmm... not bad. I'm still not liking the interior, but hey it's the first year right? and, the front really really reminds me of the GL.
let's see how the C63 performs... I like how the front bumper has the chrome fog light rings and the traditional AMG design... hopefully it'll be great. |
The front end looks like a truck. The only thing I like about this car is the steering wheel. :smash:
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Originally Posted by nlpamg
(Post 1938009)
hmm... not bad. I'm still not liking the interior, but hey it's the first year right? and, the front really really reminds me of the GL.
let's see how the C63 performs... I like how the front bumper has the chrome fog light rings and the traditional AMG design... hopefully it'll be great. |
I hate the grill, it's too big and showy with not enough horizontal slats. The steering wheel sucks, the center part is way too big for sporty driving. And that center console, looks like an Acura or Honda Accord!
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looks like a wanna-be S class...
i'm going to go throw up a little.... |
Originally Posted by Saprissa
(Post 1938381)
looks like a wanna-be S class...
i'm going to go throw up a little.... |
Originally Posted by Saprissa
(Post 1938381)
looks like a wanna-be S class...
i'm going to go throw up a little.... Way to go Benz, you lost another costumer. |
Originally Posted by Outland
(Post 1938613)
Just a little? It makes me violently ill. Car is hideous. Looks like an Acura MDX, repleat with frisbee size emblem. And WTF ever happened to tradition? That star only belongs in the grille of a coupe or a truck.
Way to go Benz, you lost another costumer. Another example btw, is the new ML and GL center consoles. In a presentation by the M-Class product manager for the US he said that they moved the gear selector to the steering wheel to make room for extra large cupholders that Americans want. It repulses me to think that these fine German machines are now being designed to pander to the wants of fat, stupid American consumers obsessed with conspicuous consumption. |
ugh.. i was waiting for this car to come out, i was strongly considering it for when i give up the ML...
i am sorry to say that i will prob end up with the new 335i coupe instead.. sigh... |
2008 C-Class Brochure Scans
Looks AMAZING!!! I love the new styling, very pleased:
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au.../01/new_c1.jpg http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au...01/new_c10.jpg http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au...01/new_c11.jpg http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au...01/new_c12.jpg http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au.../01/new_c2.jpg http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au.../01/new_c7.jpg http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au.../01/new_c8.jpg http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au.../01/new_c9.jpg |
the interior is pretty nice but i can't say the same for the exterior
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I like the inside alot but Again does it not look like a 5 series? it is almost the same, need to get a better inside but you get the idea...:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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interior isnt too bad but i am not a fan of the popup center display and that front grille is hideous.
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looks like a baby cl
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Any word on a c-coupe in the brochure ???
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Not a big fan of the exterior and that steering wheel.
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Well at least not more need of a modding to a white star badge, already done! :)
I'm gonna wait to see this car in person. As I've always said, I'm sure I'll fall in love with it soon or later. And the W203 will be like how we view the W202 now. It's just the concept of evolution. Tee_Tz. |
Originally Posted by PC Valkyrie
(Post 1935191)
Latest pictures of the W204 C-class with the AMG Sport package.
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Why does the first picture have a different grille and a stand up star compared to all the other pictures of the grille with a star and a flat hood emblem?
2 different grilles? |
Originally Posted by kostas
(Post 1938855)
ugh.. i was waiting for this car to come out, i was strongly considering it for when i give up the ML...
i am sorry to say that i will prob end up with the new 335i coupe instead.. sigh... |
Originally Posted by eforer
(Post 1939907)
Agree 100%. I really wanted to stay in the MB family, but the styling alone on this thing is going to make me jump ship.
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It amazes me how many people seem only concerned about styling features. If I was that concerned about styling, I wouldn't even consider any sedan, only coupes and convertibles.
For me, the excellent technologhy and overall package of a Mercedes are my deciding factors. This new C Class is probably one of the finest automobiles ever offered by Mercedes. It should do everything well with great handling, comfort and safety. Performance with the C350 engine is outstanding. I can hardly wait to get mine. |
you can def. see chyslers thoughts are put in this car since they merged the new interior looks like the new chyslers interiors on M.O, but not for the outside and body though.
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The front view with the star in the grill reminds me a bit like the styling of the last generation Infiniti M45
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Originally Posted by neilsam
(Post 1939856)
Why does the first picture have a different grille and a stand up star compared to all the other pictures of the grille with a star and a flat hood emblem?
2 different grilles? |
Looks a like the Crysler wagon which my brother rented few days ago.
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Ok so now that I have had a little more time to digest this news, I wanted to post more comments. The outside isn't too bad, I think I have adapted to Mercedes new design ever since the W221 came out. I hated that too in pictures, but love it now in person. I don't like the replacement of the grille star though on the sport models, I think Mercedes should stick a little more with tradition: sedan gets hood star, coupe, convertible and roadster gets grille star.
The interior is really the weak spot in this car. The doors look lifted exactly from an ML: the speakers with chrome surrounds, lock swithces, and window controls. The flip up COMAND screen is interesting, but I will have to see it in person. I don't really see the point since you need the screen for all audio and nav functions so it really would be up any time the car is on so why not make a fixed screen? (Just another item to break.) Also I noticed in previous pictures that were released there are no retractable headrests. WTF is Mercedes thinking!?!? Those head rests are an iconic Mercedes thing! Everyone gets a kick out of that when they are in my car and it really is useful too. |
that steering wheel is fawking ugly..the sports model looks decent..but still prefer the 203 shape and sleekness..especially when slammed!
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wth was mbz thinking, i'm kinda dissapointed
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I personally don't like the BMW style permanent black dash on top..I liked it better when they used to colour match the interiors...like one person mentioned it looks alot like the 5 interior...the the SS/AMG looks nice on the outside..but thats it..
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I`ve been reading how people are saying that NEW MB is starting to look like a Chrysler on the inside and worried about engine power too, so here is a suggestion how about a Dodge SRT mmm horse power . I understand owning a benz you got the name and its german but it looks like the MB has taken out the sporty look and just gone plane Jane.:zoom:
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looks like my friends Honda Accord but the honda accord is better
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I like a black dash in my aircraft. It does help me to see in the sky, but on the road it seems like "all they have is black." I've done the all black car thing, and don't want to roast myself any longer. I think the pop-up screen shows a lack of planning, and is just another over engineered, poorly executed piece that will malfunction like the current cup holders.
Why not put a single large screen in the Instrument Cluster, and let me display what is of interest to me, speedo, oil pressure, navigation, or internet porn. Is anyone else annoyed with the rotary mouse gadget on a lot of luxury cars? How about Mercedes adds a fast fifty bucks, and give me some individual switches? If I want to open the sunroof, don't make me tune the radio to "Breezy 98" first. The seats on the new C look to be a bit beefier, better to fit my tutonic backside in greater comfort. I wonder if there is going to be any new mechanicals for the NAFTA market, or is it just a new fashion exercise? |
ew, the center console is so plain looking.. yuck. Mercedes 2008 line-up looks very much like the cadillacs, with the square designs and all. well, atleast they still have the ash grey leather option:y
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The new CTS interior looks alot like our W203s. I like the W204, especially if we can get a diesel sport package. ( yeah right )
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that car looks bigger than the current C..... if i can get a free trade w/ the current car i have, i would.
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Originally Posted by blkc230k
(Post 1942806)
that car looks bigger than the current C..... if i can get a free trade w/ the current car i have, i would.
"hi, i would like to trade my 05 c class for your new 08 c class". :rolf: |
when i was looking at a new 06 c55, i asked what i would get if i traded in my 05 C55 + 05 C230, they said i needed another 25k CND.
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World Premier for W204
OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE
World premiere of the new Mercedes-Benz C-Class live on the internet Stuttgart, Jan 17, 2007 The year 2007 starts for Mercedes-Benz with a highlight – the world premiere of the new C-Class in the Mercedes World in Stuttgart-Untertürkheim. The press conference, which will be attended by some 600 journalists from around the world on 18th January 2007 can be seen live on the internet from 7:00 to 7:40pm (CET) by using the link below. Following the event various text and photo materials relating to the new C-Class will also be available on here on the DaimlerChrysler Media Site, along with pictures of the world premiere. Copyright © 2007, DaimlerChrysler AG |
Im starting to like the new looks of the W204 its slowly growing on to me. I might get rid of the C32 and the C230 and get a W204 Sport Model with AMG Body Kit, and a SLK350 soon. I just dont like the Grille on the W204 and mirrors. I cant wait till it comes out. Does anyone know the retail on the W204 yet ?
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W204 will be hitting Mercedes Benz Dealers by March or April. Whats the RETAIL ?
I just got word that W204's will be hittting the dealers by March or April 07. I am kinda feeling the car now, especially the sport model with the AMG body kit. Does anyone know the retail prices of these cars yet ? I am hearing they will start at 27K for the sports but am not sure. Mercedes Benz is suppose to be lowering their prices down to compete with competitors. I hope this is the case. I cant wait till the release of this car, time to sell my C230 now.
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Originally Posted by MB-JIM
(Post 1942978)
OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE
World premiere of the new Mercedes-Benz C-Class live on the internet Stuttgart, Jan 17, 2007 The year 2007 starts for Mercedes-Benz with a highlight – the world premiere of the new C-Class in the Mercedes World in Stuttgart-Untertürkheim. The press conference, which will be attended by some 600 journalists from around the world on 18th January 2007 can be seen live on the internet from 7:00 to 7:40pm (CET) by using the link below. Following the event various text and photo materials relating to the new C-Class will also be available on here on the DaimlerChrysler Media Site, along with pictures of the world premiere. Copyright © 2007, DaimlerChrysler AG and what time is CET?? |
Originally Posted by sick_benz
(Post 1943346)
I just got word that W204's will be hittting the dealers by March or April 07. I am kinda feeling the car now, especially the sport model with the AMG body kit. Does anyone know the retail prices of these cars yet ? I am hearing they will start at 27K for the sports but am not sure. Mercedes Benz is suppose to be lowering their prices down to compete with competitors. I hope this is the case. I cant wait till the release of this car, time to sell my C230 now.
why start a new useless thread about the w204 when there is an official thread for it already?! /goof https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w204/89420-official-w204-thread-updated-01-17-07-last-page-official-press-release.html edit: thanks to admin for merging the thread. these w204 topics area getting out of hand when members create a new one just to ask a dumb question instead of adding to this "Official thread". |
Originally Posted by ctC230K
(Post 1943350)
and what time is CET??
That press release was published on media.daimlerchrysler.com. It is DCs press material section, but anyone can sign up. If you don't already have a username, I highly suggest you go there and get one. It's filled with thousands upon thousands of high res photos and press releases about Mercedes and Maybach from about 1999 to present. There was no link below however as the press release stated. Maybe they will update that tomorrow. I will post if I find out anything further. |
Ok I checked, CET is Central European Time and they are 6 hours ahead of eastern standard time. So the unveiling is at 1PM eastern time.
It seems like Mercedes is really going all out with the launch of this car. I mean first they released pictures last week of the car undergoing testing but still heavily disguised, now the "leaked" brochure, and a big event on the internet. I just hope the effort they put into the development of the car is as extravagant. |
hmmm
i mean it looks good but does anyone else think the design is a little bit uninspired? It seems that the round headlights distinguished mercedes, and to me the new C looks unoriginal especially the headlights.
i thought that the W203 was a total revolution in terms of branching out off from the W202 styling, but the new W204 seems to be more of an evolution. :nix: |
The link to the W204 presentation ENJOY !
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https://img259.imageshack.us/img259/...c200715rf7.jpg
https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g...C/IMG_0001.jpg http://www.jesdc.de/news/news/pics/204er8.jpg Interior has a lot of real chrome and wood. Chrome around the window switches, around speaker grills. There is chrome at the top and bottom of teh navigation screen. I mean there is chrome all over the car. Wood is also sprinkled well. Even the dome lights look very high quality. The dials look very nice sorta remind me the Aston Martin dials. The light switch looks to be very similar from the S Class. Even the gear box looks very nice, they could definitly improve on the stick. The indicator stalk and the cruise control stalk have the nice touch of the chrome and reflecting plastic similar to the new M,E,S . Ok the location of the Nav screen. I think it is perfect. If they did what they did in the S-Class it would have been really fugly why ? C is a much smaller car. So the design flow of the second NAV screen and the hood would look really bad think about it.Also the location of the NAV screen is at the perfect eye level of the driver. Also better dust protection if the screen goes away when you park. BTW here is the unoffical feature list. Color Display standard (COMMAND from the SClass) Bluetooth Distronic Keyless Go Sport mode button dont know what this does ? Aston Martin type speedometer dials very nice touch. Hard drive based navigation system. 3 zone climate control Panorama roof The choice of adding wood or brushed aluminum to the cockpit Multicontour seats E-class suspension with adaptive controlled system 7GTronic automatic transmission PRESAFE and Xenon with ILS Bigger interior and bigger trunk I took all this info from some of my posts and other posts on GermanCarZone.com . The first photo was posted by cawimmer430 mod for german car zone. and the second photo posted by Alwing. Dial image posted by ree. Again there are a lot of photos on www.germancarzone.com http://www.germancarzone.com/forumdisplay.php?f=37 |
How bad are the problems going to be with this car during the first three years? Do you think they will be as bad as the W203 was? My car was crap during the first 75,000 miles. Once everything was changed and updated, read 20+ visits to dealer under warranty alone, it has been a great car. But that fact really rubbed my wife the wrong way. Know what I mean?
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Originally Posted by wizkid
(Post 1943949)
How bad are the problems going to be with this car during the first three years? Do you think they will be as bad as the W203 was? My car was crap during the first 75,000 miles. Once everything was changed and updated, read 20+ visits to dealer under warranty alone, it has been a great car. But that fact really rubbed my wife the wrong way. Know what I mean?
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Yeah, agreed quality should be much better on this C-Class. The recent press release said that they did more extensive testing on the W204 than any Mercedes ever. You can feel the re-focus on quality, just compare the W220 to the W221. I still love the style of the 220, but as far as quality and materials go, the 221 is miles ahead.
Many people believe that the 203 and 220 were some of the worst and least reliable Mercedes ever. They are definately trying to make sure that never happens again. |
Originally Posted by MB-JIM
(Post 1943776)
<http://www.streamevents.de/070118_pk_dc/en/stream_en_dsl.html>
link works, remove the > after html... :y |
Originally Posted by Chi-Benz
(Post 1944054)
Link doesn't work....:nix: or do we have to wait until the release??
link works, remove the > after html... :y and that you can view it later, it will be recorded. |
I don't like the steering wheel.
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what is CET time? :nix: |
Originally Posted by 14cue
(Post 1944156)
what is CET time?
:nix: |
Originally Posted by pmb600
(Post 1944237)
I said above its Central European time. Its on right now!
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I was resisting the urge to reply to this topic until the official press release. Basically this is how I am seeing the W204:
1) Styling is so-so. MB clearly took cues from the CLS, S, and traces from BMW. The C pillar keeps reminding me of last generation's Civic as it is almost an exact copy. 2) Interior looks better in terms of quality, but the huge black sea of plastic coming all the way down the middle of the center console looks like it belongs in a sub 30K car, especially in the interior is black on black. The 2008 CTS's interior looks better IMHO. 3) All sedans should have the 3 pt star on the hood instead of the grill, but that appears to be a response to many aftermarket conversions, especially on the sportier models. There was also an emphasis on using virtual modeling in producing this car. This is actually something MB should have done several years ago, and this isn't a breakthrough. Other manufacturers have been doing that for sometime (i.e. Toyota, BMW). Wait for a couple of years, and we can all judge whether MB has improved its reliability. It is overall a better effort than the 203, but I will believe it when I drive it. |
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Hahha, beat you too it with your own images :) Sorry!
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2008 C-Class in Autoweek
Mods - merge if you deem it necessary :rolleyes:
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../70116006/1065 |
Originally Posted by DC_insider
(Post 1944333)
I missed the unveiling, anything about the AMG w204? |
Originally Posted by BBW
(Post 1944337)
Hahha, beat you too it with your own images :) Sorry!
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I hate the black plastic on the bottom of the mirrors. They should be all paint color like the current model.
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BBW where are you getting the pictures?
Btw, doesn't that steering wheel look like a vagina, or like a cutaway of femail anatomy....maybe i just have a sick mind. |
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http://up.autotitre.com/forum/up/7aa369af8d.jpg
http://up.autotitre.com/forum/up/ca90e3d212.jpg http://up.autotitre.com/forum/up/672b8111a5.jpg http://up.autotitre.com/forum/up/9a2417bdae.jpg http://up.autotitre.com/forum/up/3e1c2d4967.jpg http://up.autotitre.com/forum/up/d4d17903f0.jpg http://up.autotitre.com/forum/up/1884498a9d.jpg |
1) That copper color is quite repulsive.
2) As I have said before, the lack of retractable head restraints makes me very, very sad. 3) I like the dual exhaust. 4) The overall shape of the car isn't bad, its just little things that irritate me. Does anyone know why the mirror turn signals are so large? And on the front headlights what is that strip above the projector lenses? |
-1. it's too ugly.
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Oh dear, Build quality still not perfect, rushed for early photoshoot? :) :)
http://up.autotitre.com/forum/up/51dbb1f6d0.jpg (Picture robbed from another forum) |
Originally Posted by BBW
(Post 1944493)
Oh dear, Build quality still not perfect, rushed for early photoshoot? :) :)
http://up.autotitre.com/forum/up/51dbb1f6d0.jpg (Picture robbed from another forum) |
the only thing that stands out above the W203 as of right now looking at the pictures are the following:
- the rear dual exhuast on the 350 / hot! - the interior dome lights - the controls on the doors everything eles i will have to get used to. the car has a weird shape. it's a bit chunky so it looks like its sitting really high up no matter what angel you look at it from. the head lights are a bit too much and dont even get me started with the horrific side view mirrors ./puke! and i wont even start with the center dash....holy plastic batman! i dont think there will be a C63 this year. that is the only thing that excits me about this new car. |
1/18/07 NEW PRESS RELEASE: The 2008 Mercedes-Benz C-Class: Model Range
http://emercedesbenz.com/Jan07/18_Th...del_Range.html
Lots more pictures on emercedesbenz, and they all enlarge http://emercedesbenz.com/Images/Jan0...6c5189_01S.jpg http://emercedesbenz.com/Images/Jan0...6c3951_03S.jpg |
The modern V6-engines in the C-Class range remain unchanged, with a choice of three petrol units developing 150 kW/204 hp, 170 kW/231 hp and 200 kW/272 hp. The six-cylinder of the new C 320 CDI has an output of 165 kW/224 hp. With the exception of the C 350, all models in the new C-Class are equipped with a six-speed transmission featuring AGILITY CONTROL gearshift as standard. The top-of-the-range C 350 has 7G-TRONIC, the world’s only seven-speed automatic transmission, as standard equipment. This is also available for the other six-cylinder C-Class models on request. Official Mercedes-Benz Released Pictures: ELEGANCE MODEL: http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/757/e1nc6.th.jpg http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6190/e2ho1.th.jpg http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7033/e3qu7.th.jpg http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9889/e4vz8.th.jpg http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3668/e5zk9.th.jpg http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/550/e6gs6.th.jpg http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/5206/e7zd2.th.jpg AVANTGARDE MODEL: http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/5840/a1oe4.th.jpg http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5011/a2gp5.th.jpg http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/9350/a3gr2.th.jpg http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2027/a4zk6.th.jpg http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2586/a5eo1.th.jpg http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/716/a6xu5.th.jpg http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8327/a7vi3.th.jpg http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3669/a8iy9.th.jpg http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/866/a9pj9.th.jpg http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/5125/a10yn4.th.jpg Both Together: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/688/b1ht2.th.jpg http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/264/b2ur5.th.jpg |
Better than I thought, but I still am not sold with stock styling (elegance or avantguard). I bet there will be some nice kits that'll completely change the stance of the car, which at that point may sway me to get one. Right now, I'd only get a C63 if I were gonna get a w204.
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Originally Posted by drexappeal
(Post 1944660)
Right now, I'd only get a C63 if I were gonna get a w204.
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i'm definitely passing on the W204.
I hate it. Design sucks... looks like a Toyota Avalon with S Class wanna-be headlights. Horspower sucks !!! oh my God horsepower sucks ! How can they compete with bmw or lexus at that level !?!?!! :smash: interior is crappy. Steering wheels is damn right ugly. I'd have to stare at that anytime I'm driving... plastic, wood, chrome interior is horrendous. albeit these are EURO model pics, by looking at the rear license plate bezel. I'm sure the USA versions can't be any better. In fact, knowing what MBUSA does to European models, I can bet that it will look even worse ! W204... sorry ! I'll spend my $$$ elsewhere. |
I don't like the pop up nav screen at all. I didn't like it in the G35 either, and this one looks worse at first glance.
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I like the rear design and that''s it!
I hate the ordinary Opel / Chevy Astra -like front end headlight I am not enthused by the interioir design too BMW 3-ish with the same kind of disconnection from the center console to the panel, unlike the W203 where the console flows into the panel... I mean look at the lower controls! they are facing completly flat forward and not even angled upwad.... Boy amd I glad I got my W203 with the benzy eyes front end...and the same V6 engine of today! |
my thoughts
The w204's are growing on me, they definitely look better then the early spy photos released on the internet. Couple of things:
1) I like the classic grill better then the sport (avantgaurde) 2) A real shame they didn't improve the powerplants, that to me would stop me from buying a new c-class 3) Looks like the car is lighter then the previous gen? around 3k lbs? That's almost unheard of in this day of age. 4) I watched a vid of the w204 being run through its paces (slalom), the chassis behavior seemed to have improved massively. 5) Although a solid improvement on the previous gen, my money is with BMW (a bone stock 330i is too cool for school) |
I love it. Glad to not see the Bangle Butt designed trunk from W221 S-Class, however it appears to be Bangle Hood!
http://wwwsg.daimlerchrysler.com/GMS...89_22__mid.jpg |
[QUOTE=kostas;1944609]Anyone else thinks this is a bad move by Mercedes? Especially with the 335 BMW producing 300hp, and the Lexus IS350 producing 304hp, the C350 is quite underpowered compared to its competition.]
So yes it is underpowered but mb has a new version in the works that uses direct injection and it bumps power to near 300 hp like the others. Likely a year or so into the W204 the engines will be updated. Not an all new motor just updated injection and combustion. |
Looks like a Chrylser up front.
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i dont like the front grille w/o the star with the little star emblem on the top of it with the up right star to boot. 1 too many stars dont you think?
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The 335i is actually a step above the current C350. The 350 actually competes directly with the 330i. Of course with the new engines from BMW, Lexus, and Infiniti, MB is now at the bottom of the pack. Mind you this isn't the first time this has happened.
If the weight savings are in fact true however, there will be a substantial difference in acceleration times. Imagine shaving 200 lbs from your current C350, and it will probably hit 60 in the low 5's or even at 5.0 sec. assuming the same drivetrain loss. Now that is IMPRESSIVE. |
I had a little hope this one would be a something to desire, but unfortunatelly they didn't even attempt to create something good. Same underpowered engines, unattractive interior and exterior looks like they took a bit of every car on the market. Benz was always the sexiest car on the road, but this w204 looks more like ******* in the family.
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Frankenstein car with styling cues from other cars put together just like Kia did with the Amanti.
W204: Rear = 1st gen A4 when looking straight on Side swoosh = current 3 series interior = current Passat = current Jetta Nav screen = 1st gen G35 Clamshell hood = Saab 99 = Saab 900 = Saab 9-3 front = Altima or Accord Steering wheel = a dispute of whether to make it 2 spoke, 3 spoke or 4 spoke so it went to a commitee and this is what they came up with The elegance is lost and looks like rather plain and cheap. Maybe the car is better and handles better but it does not look better. |
eMercedesBenz releases over 100 photos and 6 Press Releases
Mercedes released several press releases today for the all new 2008 C-Class.
eMercedesBenz.com has released all of the press releases along with over 100 photos. You can either go to www.eMercedesBenz.com and click each story or you can click the seperate links below that go to each post. Enjoy!!! http://emercedesbenz.com/Jan07/18_Th...lass_Body.html http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Jan07/1...ss_Design.html http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Jan07/1...del_Range.html http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Jan07/1...z_C_Class.html http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Jan07/1...ss_Emerge.html |
Just to let everyone know, these links do not disappear as I have emailed them and asked before I posted them.
They will be the good for the entire life of the site.
Originally Posted by AshleyAlissa
(Post 1945202)
Mercedes released several press releases today for the all new 2008 C-Class.
eMercedesBenz.com has released all of the press releases along with over 100 photos. You can either go to www.eMercedesBenz.com and click each story or you can click the seperate links below that go to each post. Enjoy!!! http://emercedesbenz.com/Jan07/18_Th...lass_Body.html http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Jan07/1...ss_Design.html http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Jan07/1...del_Range.html http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Jan07/1...z_C_Class.html http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Jan07/1...ss_Emerge.html |
thanks, i just watched the whole thing minus the artsy crap... i want to like it but really i hate it, the interior is awful and the grill on the sport sedan looks like it was lifted off the ML, the rear tails are just plain weird. WTF!!!!!!! W203 for life i guess. |
A gorgeous car...
This is an amazing car, I wouldn't rush out and buy a first year model, but I am impressed with the overall looks and am looking forward to driving one. You guys will be on this forum in two years singing its praises no doubt. I can't wait to test drive one.
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PRE-SAFE is networked with state-of-the-art safety systems such as ESP and Brake Assist and, thanks to its sensors, can recognise a potentially dangerous driving manoeuvre in its early stages. If the vehicle is likely to be involved in an accident as a result of heavy understeer or oversteer or the driver has to brake hard in an emergency, PRE-SAFE activates a series of preventive measures to prepare both the occupants and the vehicle for a possible collision. |
New C-Class makes debut!
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see the rest at worldcarfans.com
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im guessing the first picture shows the new c63 and the other 2 pictures show the c300 or c350:confused: ..hope they have the panorama roof as an option in the sedan this time..
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Ehh, still dont like how it looks much bigger / heavier, but the interior has grown on me alot :)
-j0hn |
the first pic is what the sport/avantgarde package ones will look like. the other two are elegance/classic packages. c63 will be more aggressive.
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yet another useless thread created when an offical one exist for the W204.:smash:
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overall, looks kinda like Acura TL...
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the C63 wont be out till next year.
finally got a chance to watch the long premiere video at (as mentioned above) http://www.streamevents.de/070118_pk...m_en_isdn.html |
I'll be keeping my old C320. I don't like the headlights and the center stack looks cheap. I also don't like the pop-up screen.
It looks like the rear quarters are not as tucked in at the rear as the previous model, (a good thing from certain angles) but that is the only improvement I see. Oh, and I'm combining this thread with the much larger and more complete one. |
Here are some fun pictures, sorry if its a repost:
http://www.welt.de/z/picshow2/index....c/?popup=popup :) |
Originally Posted by pmb600
I hate the black plastic on the bottom of the mirrors. They should be all paint color like the current model.
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wow its really really nice, especially the sport. im not sure i like the grill on it though. ive never been a fan of the huge emblem in the grill like that.
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It's pretty nice. I don't like the rear. The front looks good with the AMG package.
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When the S-Class first came out every one complained the interior was a total crap blah blah blah , now I dont hear a word about the interior or the outer design. I have been seening pictures of this car for the last 3 days and have to say it is growing on me.
BTW it has some form of Ambiant lighting, look under the door handle. That is good enough for a car of this size. I love the new interior. I will post some details FULL FRONT: http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/...6c3952_022.jpg OVERVIEW: http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/...6c3952_026.jpg SIDE OVERVIEW: http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/...6c3952_031.jpg CENTER STACK: http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/...6c3952_050.jpg NAV SCREEN: http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/...6c3952_069.jpg NAV SCREEN FOLDING: http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/...6c3952_081.jpg DIALS: http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/...6c3952_052.jpg STEERING WHEEL: http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/...6c3952_029.jpg AMBIANT LIGHTS: http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/...6c3952_010.jpg DOOR PANEL: http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/...6c3952_076.jpg SWITCHES: http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/...6c3952_012.jpg REAR AC: http://up.autotitre.com/forum/up/fb2cf3dc50.jpg NIGHT: http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/...6c3952_005.jpg OLD: http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/...01/1032big.jpg http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/...01/1027big.jpg Pictures taken from emercedesbenz, germancarfans and one italian site. |
the tail looking straight on looks so much as the original A4 1995-2002
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I think the car looks amazing! :bow:
Have you ever seen one on the road? I have, and belive me the car looks really amazing... at first i thougt it was the new Clk...:y But i have to say, that the side mirrors are a little bit to big for the car... And yes, every new car looks a little bit like another one...:rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Stuttgart-UT
(Post 1946576)
I think the car looks amazing! :bow:
Have you ever seen one on the road? I have, and belive me the car looks really amazing... at first i thougt it was the new Clk...:y But i have to say, that the side mirrors are a little bit to big for the car... And yes, every new car looks a little bit like another one...:rolleyes: Hi All, Yes, couldn't agree with you more, Stuttgart -UT. I love the look of the new C except maybe for the side mirrors. The black bit in between actually makes it look smaller as long as the car is not black, otherwise it'll look like Dumbo :eek: But overall, I'm impressed and judging by the press photos, interior quality should be right up there. |
Horrible design, inside and out. Kind of reminds me of the previous generation Infinity in concept - "for older people". Frumpy and unoriginal. Very disappointing - there have been better looking variants floating around on the i-net. I am definitely out.
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Thanks for the hi res pics. Still dislike the center console, too much blank space covered by that cheap looking plastic. I'm trying to envision which areas we could overlay with carbon fiber. That would help.
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2008 C-Class
Information and a few pictures of the 2008 C-Class...
http://cars.about.com/od/mercedesben...lery/index.htm |
It's really good :y
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2008+ C-class 4matic? Will AWD be an option?
Just wanted to know if anyone has info on the 4matic AWD system becoming available on the 2008+ C-class.
I would really love a AWD C-class for the Northeast winters. I REALLY want a C63 4matic with an automatic transmission. Autoweek has confiremd that a C63 is coming with 450hp+. http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../70116006/1024 |
im not even going to say it...
i cant resist! YET ANOTHER W204 THREAD! YIKES! THIS IS GETTING OUT OF HAND... :thread: |
they'll probably have a 4-Matic, but not in the sport versions and most likely not in the C63.
They'll probably carry over the C280 Luxury in a 4-Matic |
here's the mother loaD
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Kind of reminds me of the previous generation Infinity in concept |
read this morning that there will be 4-Matic available. Its going to be a 45/55 split. US will likely see C230, C280 and C350.
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too bad the C350 is not available with a manual trans. I guess I will have to go for the C230 when I trade my car in for the new model.
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Even the C350 is down on power compared to the AWD 07 G35 and the AWD 08 CTS which are both COMPLETELY redesigned.
If MB offers a C63 with AWD and an automatic trans, I'll buy one. If not, I'll be buying the 300+hp 08 CTS that is completely redesigned and offers a direct injection motor. It's a shame, because I REALLY want a C63 with AWD and automatic. |
There's already been lots of discussion on MB being behind Infinity/Lexus/Cadillac etc in terms of audio/video/exterior styling etc etc. I think them not having a super fast AWD vehicle right out of the gates with the new model year is very typical. Their focus groups probably showed them that there is not much demand for an AWD option for the most sporty of the C-Classes. It may show up in a couple years but my bet would be that it's not going to be available the first model year of a new design.
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i doubt they'll make a 4matic for an AMG C class. AMG's have always been rear wheel drive with raw power.
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Maybe it is good to start a new thread the last one is getting too big and with all the photos it is slow to load.
In addition to the 1st gen Audi A4 tail, the grill with the star in it looks like the one that is on the Sprinter Van. While the SL CLK and CL star looks good, this one looks like it belongs on a truck |
Originally Posted by Boom vang
(Post 1947492)
last one is getting too big and with all the photos it is slow to load.
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No Thanks! Goodbye Mercedes C Class Hello
2008 Cls55!
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It's not hard to beat the current W203's interior. With that said, the uninspired center console really makes the new interior look cheap.
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Originally Posted by MrMercedes
(Post 1947635)
2008 Cls55!
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the center console is horrible man, doesnt anyone notice that?? it looks so old, reminds me of a honda or a toyota :nix: arg.
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how annoying...
another stupid W204 thread to merge !! :smash: |
Originally Posted by 360_iti
(Post 1947719)
I'm just curious, one avantgarde c350 has a chrome trim piece on the rear bumper. The other doesn't. What's the difference between the two models ?
http://up.autotitre.com/forum/up/3e1c2d4967.jpg |
and remember you are looking at the EUROPEAN versions too, not the USA versions.
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Not blown away
Well...all I can say is that I am not blown away. The car doesn't flow like the W203, it looks a bit choppy. The trunk looks pushed in a bit and the tail-lights look sort of like a kia rio. Plus the headlights don't look very stylish to me...I really hope the car looks better in person. Right now I love the way my current car looks...
I am also wondering how much would the new W204 cost with all of the same options I got in my W203, especially considering that MB has been taking away some standard stuff just about every year since 2005. I can tell you right now that I must have an AMG bodykit on any future benz I buy...and that includes the W204. I know the car will be priced 3% to 5% higher than the W203, but I wonder how much the AMG body kit will cost. Hopefully in a few years I can afford a CLS...but just in case I can't, I hope the W204 grows on me so that I can have a back up plan to stay in the MB family. Still can't wait to see one in person... :) |
I think the car will be fine once we see it in the flesh. Pictures are never as good as the real deal.
My only concern is that the steering wheel seems kind of busy. I like the 2004 version, which is very straight forward. A minor quible, to be sure. OKAY.....Saints v. Patriots in the Superbowl....ANYONE disagree? |
Pictures are never as good as the real deal. |
AMG pkg :y
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Stop Lights ?
Where is the Stop Lights (rear-back) ? I can not see it. if they replaced it to rear-back glass , I think is not good policies :confused:
http://www.worldcarfans.com/photos.c...rcedes-c-class http://www.worldcarfans.com/photos.c...rcedes-c-class |
Originally Posted by M230K
(Post 1947758)
the center console is horrible man, doesnt anyone notice that?? it looks so old, reminds me of a honda or a toyota :nix: arg.
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Pictures ?
can not seee until now ;
-Keyless go pictures in new C -not like so much -yes good design - classical Steering Wheel but need ergonomic and AMG Steering Wheel need more ! -Ortopedic and Ergonomic Seat also not seeing -passenger consol and side are not so good design it must work much there maybe CLK same side could get it to new C |
Originally Posted by Justford0099
(Post 1945850)
. im not sure i like the grill on it though. ive never been a fan of the huge emblem in the grill like that.
u are right man ! aggree with you ' You will see The Star on the Road while driving' ! |
Originally Posted by TruTaing
(Post 1945423)
Ehh, still dont like how it looks much bigger / heavier,
-j0hn how it looks much bigger / heavier = means more secur-stabil car as well as more hevaier more secur ! more bigger more fresh ! |
From what I have seen I quite like the W204, I only wonder if the cigarette lighter will get stuck in them?
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you can find tons of high quality pics here - http://www.zonelance.com/index.php/v...ery2&Itemid=26
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No Way!
Bears vs. Colts! |
The sport steering with paddle shifters behind, see them. I like what I am seeing.
You can get birds eye maple too with this trim. http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/...06c3954_05.jpg |
Will the 2008+ C-Class get a 4matic option? With what engines?
Will the 2008+ C-Class get a 4matic option?
With what engines? Thanks. |
The most important question my book at this point is.. Will Mercedes rework the C350 to produce more HP to compete with it's 335i BMW competition?
hmmmm... |
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