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Old Oct 10, 2014 | 10:53 AM
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C-class release timeline

Interesting that they're going to wait so long to release the hybrid AND the diesel.... And that the C400 will disappear entirely (!). This is also the SECOND time I've read something stating that the coupe is supposed to be GORGEOUS. I assume it'll look like a shrunken S-class coupe, but....

http://blog.caranddriver.com/c-whats...oupe-and-more/
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Old Oct 10, 2014 | 11:01 AM
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Old Oct 10, 2014 | 11:53 AM
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Fall 2016 arrival date for the coupe is very far away. Thats 2 yrs after the release of the sedan.
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Old Oct 10, 2014 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SLOW C240
Fall 2016 arrival date for the coupe is very far away. Thats 2 yrs after the release of the sedan.
Which is exactly what happened with the W204 and the C204.
I don't know why anyone was expecting anything different for the W205 and the C205.
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Old Oct 10, 2014 | 12:44 PM
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The only thing is that I see no mention as to when the 9G gearbox will be put into the C-Class. The C450 just has to have this gearbox. Imagine a C450 Coupe with 362hp and the 9G gearbox.

With the C300 doing all the regular duties of the C-Class at 39-40K I think there is room for a C250 again with like 205 hp and a 36K base price.

There is also no mention of the new I6 engines due in 2017. I would bet that for the 2018 model year the C450 will get a new turbo I6 with at least the same hp as the turbo V6.

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Old Oct 10, 2014 | 01:48 PM
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hmmmm.... if the C400 is gonezo I'll probably wait a year for the 450... that will also give me time to see what the new A4 is going to have to offer.
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Old Oct 10, 2014 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Tjdehya
Which is exactly what happened with the W204 and the C204.
I don't know why anyone was expecting anything different for the W205 and the C205.
B/c Mercedes generally has never waited longer than 1 yr to introduce the coupe version of a sedan?

The current C-class coupe (which has always looked like an afterthought to me) was actually introduced 4 yrs after the sedan, no?
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Old Oct 10, 2014 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tjdehya
Which is exactly what happened with the W204 and the C204.
I don't know why anyone was expecting anything different for the W205 and the C205.
The reason why is because in another interview an MB exec already said 1 year after the sedan. Which mean January of this year it should be revealed. Also the previous C Coupe was added after the sedan was already completed, but this time they were developed side by side. Mercedes' words not mine. C&D is just speculating, the other info came right from Mercedes.

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Old Oct 10, 2014 | 06:24 PM
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Old Oct 10, 2014 | 10:29 PM
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Bad move to get rid of the c400 only after 1 year. What are they doing? Too bad there is no c450 rwd.
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Old Oct 11, 2014 | 01:36 AM
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We don't know if there will be a C450 RWD yet.

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Old Oct 11, 2014 | 02:35 AM
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Sucks for people on the west coast that dont need AWD. Kind of dumb that they used a 7 speed transmission when even the E class is 8 speed.
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Old Oct 11, 2014 | 03:20 PM
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The E-Class does not have a 8 Speed transmission, no Benz does.

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Old Oct 12, 2014 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by alsyli
The current C-class coupe (which has always looked like an afterthought to me) was actually introduced 4 yrs after the sedan, no?
I believe you are correct. I guess I was thinking of the "real" C Coupe that started wearing an E badge in 2010.
Originally Posted by jyeh74
Sucks for people on the west coast that dont need AWD. Kind of dumb that they used a 7 speed transmission when even the E class is 8 speed.
The E class still has the 7 speed, the S class still has the 7 speed. So does the CLS and every other Mercedes that they build.

But yes, the 9 speed is around the corner and they currently have the 9 speed in 1 or two cars at this time.
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Old Oct 12, 2014 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tjdehya
I believe you are correct. I guess I was thinking of the "real" C Coupe that started wearing an E badge in 2010.
Har. =)

I'm really interested to see what the new C-class coupe looks like. I saw the S-class coupe on the shipping truck recently. Very pretty, but I think it lacks the gravitas of the the current coupe. And the rear end is totally bland and anonymous. Will be also interesting to see what happens w/ the next-gen E-class coupe (which I assume will be priced around the CLS)....
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jyeh74
Bad move to get rid of the c400 only after 1 year. What are they doing? Too bad there is no c450 rwd.
This happens occasionally. BMW did it with the E90 330i as well. 1 year later the 335i came to town and made the 330i obsolete (although still a gem of a car if optioned properly). After driving the C400 last week I'm actually willing to wait and see what the 450 has to offer. 400 was very nice and the luxury aspect of it is unbeatable in this class but I'm willing to pay a bit more for a car that may feel as sporty as a 335 while still absolutely trumping the bimmer in the luxury department. If the 450 comes in RWD it'll be game over for my wallet, I'll have no choice but to hand over my money
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bwoodbmw
This happens occasionally. BMW did it with the E90 330i as well. 1 year later the 335i came to town and made the 330i obsolete (although still a gem of a car if optioned properly). After driving the C400 last week I'm actually willing to wait and see what the 450 has to offer. 400 was very nice and the luxury aspect of it is unbeatable in this class but I'm willing to pay a bit more for a car that may feel as sporty as a 335 while still absolutely trumping the bimmer in the luxury department. If the 450 comes in RWD it'll be game over for my wallet, I'll have no choice but to hand over my money
I too hope MBUSA gets this right. RWD with optional 4Matic, with the 9G gearbox. They do that and........... I know just the AMG chassis tuning will be a huge upgrade over the C400.

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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 03:41 PM
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Angry not so great news on Bluetec

I'm sure a lot of people in the USA are waiting for the diesel (like me), so I was disappointed to read this in the article:

"...it won’t be the least-expensive four-door C. The BlueTec will be available strictly with 4MATIC all-wheel drive"

The E class diesel sedan is at the bottom of the lineup, I was hoping for the same on the C class (for the lower cost). So that's not happening.

I don't need 4matic where I live (Texas). 4matic would take away a lot of the benefits of the higher efficiency (mpg) that Diesel offers. 4matic probably also costs more down the road on the maintenance.

...Not happy!
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by yuca777
I'm sure a lot of people in the USA are waiting for the diesel (like me), so I was disappointed to read this in the article:

"...it won’t be the least-expensive four-door C. The BlueTec will be available strictly with 4MATIC all-wheel drive"

The E class diesel sedan is at the bottom of the lineup, I was hoping for the same on the C class (for the lower cost). So that's not happening.

I don't need 4matic where I live (Texas). 4matic would take away a lot of the benefits of the higher efficiency (mpg) that Diesel offers. 4matic probably also costs more down the road on the maintenance.

...Not happy!
+1. I live in LA. I neither need nor want 4matic.

I don't mind if the price of the diesel is the SAME as a base C300 or even $1000-2000 higher. Another much more than that, and it becomes difficult to justify cost unless you own the car for awhile (and I plan to lease).
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 10:44 PM
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I like AWD. It's not just good for snow traction, it's good for traction period. My current car (330HP G37x) has AWD and I can stomp on it on wet roads and even wet leaves (Fall) and the AWD takes over as soon as the wheels start to slip. Instead of slipping around it just goes. Granted, Infiniti is 100% rear wheel drive unless there's a need for the AWD to kick in, so it feels like a RWD, but the C class 4matic is 60% rear biased so it should feel close to a RWD. Given the choice I'd still go for the 4matic over the RWD because it will allow all the power to go to the ground. It's also safer for spirited cornering if the fron wheels can help pull you out of a curve where the rears are fishtailing. Even with DSC this can still happen with RWD only.
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Old Oct 14, 2014 | 01:47 AM
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No offense, but I've always found this argument to be really silly. Why would you need to stomp it on a wet road or a road with leaves on it? That is the same or similar type of mentality that some SUV drivers have thinking that because they have 4WD that they can't slip or slide or get stuck in snow or bad weather. Some places just don't warrant AWD.

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Originally Posted by Ron J
I like AWD. It's not just good for snow traction, it's good for traction period. My current car (330HP G37x) has AWD and I can stomp on it on wet roads and even wet leaves (Fall) and the AWD takes over as soon as the wheels start to slip. Instead of slipping around it just goes. Granted, Infiniti is 100% rear wheel drive unless there's a need for the AWD to kick in, so it feels like a RWD, but the C class 4matic is 60% rear biased so it should feel close to a RWD. Given the choice I'd still go for the 4matic over the RWD because it will allow all the power to go to the ground. It's also safer for spirited cornering if the fron wheels can help pull you out of a curve where the rears are fishtailing. Even with DSC this can still happen with RWD only.
Yeah people forget that it hasn't rained in Los Angeles for something like 3 years now . At the end of the day the C400 isn't the type of car I would want to be pushing the limits in anyways, its much more of a luxury car. I just had a very spirited test drive in a C400 and I can tell you that my E90 335 is a MUCH more confident car to drive to be pushing hard... even with RWD only.
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Old Oct 14, 2014 | 12:57 PM
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Ron J has it right 100%.

It's not just about the snow, although for most 'tame' drivers, that's where they'll make use of it.
When accelerating hard, you have more traction (read: less wheel spin, more power goes down), when cornering and the electronic stability control can do more with AWD on the edge of grip (or beyond).

It's not as fun for those who like to let the tail swing out, it's not as economical (in gas or in maintenance), though.
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Yes timing should be right around the same time as the new S4- which I'm wondering how nice the new audi interiors will be in response to the c classes great leap forward.

I am in the same boat, awaiting the c63 pricing and the c450......


Originally Posted by bwoodbmw
hmmmm.... if the C400 is gonezo I'll probably wait a year for the 450... that will also give me time to see what the new A4 is going to have to offer.
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Why are people so pumped about a 9-spd gearbox? The current 7-spd shifts too much for my taste, I can only imagine what the extra two gears will do.
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