Seat Cover Replacement Done, Question.
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Seat Cover Replacement Done, Question.
So, like most of us I had to get all the seat covers replaced due to the bleeding issue.
As this point I am only waiting on the rear middle piece underneath the armrest.
While for the most part I am very pleased with the swap I did notice one oddity immediately: there are a few wrinkles.
Driver bottom right
Driver back left shoulder
I went in knowing full well that this was a new process to replace and that the chance for inconsistencies was high (the passenger seat and back seats are perfect). I accepted that, and all-in-all feel that I'd rather have the wrinkles then the bleed.
Is there any simple way to resolve this? Should I bother mentioning it when the last piece is replaced or will I just introduce the risk of making it worse?
Any thoughts / opinions appreciated!
As this point I am only waiting on the rear middle piece underneath the armrest.
While for the most part I am very pleased with the swap I did notice one oddity immediately: there are a few wrinkles.
Driver bottom right
Driver back left shoulder
I went in knowing full well that this was a new process to replace and that the chance for inconsistencies was high (the passenger seat and back seats are perfect). I accepted that, and all-in-all feel that I'd rather have the wrinkles then the bleed.
Is there any simple way to resolve this? Should I bother mentioning it when the last piece is replaced or will I just introduce the risk of making it worse?
Any thoughts / opinions appreciated!
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That looks a bit loose, but I don't think there's much that can be done.
As it was explained to me, the covers are pre-formed and hook into anchor points on the foam backing. There is no room for adjustment at all. The hard part is removing the old hog rings without damaging the foam ... if the foam is damaged the covers won't fit properly. The irregularities you're seeing don't look like they're caused by damaged foam, but rather just the way the cover was formed.
It's a big job and I'm not sure I'd want anyone ripping my car apart a second time for a minor cosmetic issue. If it were me, I'd let the dealer know that the covers are not a perfect fit and have them enter that into the service record. If it gets any worse, they'll have to deal with it again as a warranty issue. It may actually get better as the material softens and settles back around the foam.
As it was explained to me, the covers are pre-formed and hook into anchor points on the foam backing. There is no room for adjustment at all. The hard part is removing the old hog rings without damaging the foam ... if the foam is damaged the covers won't fit properly. The irregularities you're seeing don't look like they're caused by damaged foam, but rather just the way the cover was formed.
It's a big job and I'm not sure I'd want anyone ripping my car apart a second time for a minor cosmetic issue. If it were me, I'd let the dealer know that the covers are not a perfect fit and have them enter that into the service record. If it gets any worse, they'll have to deal with it again as a warranty issue. It may actually get better as the material softens and settles back around the foam.
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That looks a bit loose, but I don't think there's much that can be done.
As it was explained to me, the covers are pre-formed and hook into anchor points on the foam backing. There is no room for adjustment at all. The hard part is removing the old hog rings without damaging the foam ... if the foam is damaged the covers won't fit properly. The irregularities you're seeing don't look like they're caused by damaged foam, but rather just the way the cover was formed.
It's a big job and I'm not sure I'd want anyone ripping my car apart a second time for a minor cosmetic issue. If it were me, I'd let the dealer know that the covers are not a perfect fit and have them enter that into the service record. If it gets any worse, they'll have to deal with it again as a warranty issue. It may actually get better as the material softens and settles back around the foam.
As it was explained to me, the covers are pre-formed and hook into anchor points on the foam backing. There is no room for adjustment at all. The hard part is removing the old hog rings without damaging the foam ... if the foam is damaged the covers won't fit properly. The irregularities you're seeing don't look like they're caused by damaged foam, but rather just the way the cover was formed.
It's a big job and I'm not sure I'd want anyone ripping my car apart a second time for a minor cosmetic issue. If it were me, I'd let the dealer know that the covers are not a perfect fit and have them enter that into the service record. If it gets any worse, they'll have to deal with it again as a warranty issue. It may actually get better as the material softens and settles back around the foam.
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This issue and MB's resolution is really disappointing to me. I can see a manufacturer purchasing faulty seat material. The solution of recovering the seats as they have done would not be acceptable to me. It is a brand new car. They should put the car in the condition it should have been in when it left the factory. If they cannot do that they should replace the car. They made the car. This shakes my faith in Mercedes.
This has not happened to me but it makes me wonder if this should be my last Mercedes. I am a long time customer but honestly this is a Mickey Mouse solution. What if this happened to an S Class?
This has not happened to me but it makes me wonder if this should be my last Mercedes. I am a long time customer but honestly this is a Mickey Mouse solution. What if this happened to an S Class?
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I agree this is not an acceptable fix and you should push back. It needs to look factory new. Myself and others have had their seats fixed and they have come back looking near perfect.
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Look, I'm frustrated that my $50k car has this problem, but people with a $100k S would scoff at my poor man's car and view me as a poser.
Of course Mercedes would handle this situation in an S differently, they are literally more valuable to the business.
"You get what you pay for."
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I hate the attitude of "what if this happened to a(n) [much more expensive product].
Look, I'm frustrated that my $50k car has this problem, but people with a $100k S would scoff at my poor man's car and view me as a poser.
Of course Mercedes would handle this situation in an S differently, they are literally more valuable to the business.
"You get what you pay for."
Look, I'm frustrated that my $50k car has this problem, but people with a $100k S would scoff at my poor man's car and view me as a poser.
Of course Mercedes would handle this situation in an S differently, they are literally more valuable to the business.
"You get what you pay for."
My guess is that S isn't Mercedes's bread and butter either. They sell a lot more Es, Cs and Ms. The S gets a lot of customers in the door.
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And word of mouth is word of mouth.
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This issue and MB's resolution is really disappointing to me. I can see a manufacturer purchasing faulty seat material. The solution of recovering the seats as they have done would not be acceptable to me. It is a brand new car. They should put the car in the condition it should have been in when it left the factory. If they cannot do that they should replace the car. They made the car. This shakes my faith in Mercedes.
This has not happened to me but it makes me wonder if this should be my last Mercedes. I am a long time customer but honestly this is a Mickey Mouse solution. What if this happened to an S Class?
This has not happened to me but it makes me wonder if this should be my last Mercedes. I am a long time customer but honestly this is a Mickey Mouse solution. What if this happened to an S Class?
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Hey guys, I just picked up my C300 4matic US spec with red leather, last Friday. I'm loving it so far, coming from an 2003 honda civic its night and day. So on the weekend I noticed the back seats have some wrinkles, see pic. I passed by the dealer today and they said to give it some time to settle in. What do you guys think? Only about 100 miles on it.
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Hey guys, I just picked up my C300 4matic US spec with red leather, last Friday. I'm loving it so far, coming from an 2003 honda civic its night and day. So on the weekend I noticed the back seats have some wrinkles, see pic. I passed by the dealer today and they said to give it some time to settle in. What do you guys think? Only about 100 miles on it.
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Hey guys, I just picked up my C300 4matic US spec with red leather, last Friday. I'm loving it so far, coming from an 2003 honda civic its night and day. So on the weekend I noticed the back seats have some wrinkles, see pic. I passed by the dealer today and they said to give it some time to settle in. What do you guys think? Only about 100 miles on it.
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This is exactly why ANY dealer doing seat cover replacement will not be the same as factory-perfect. I would not be happy with this solution at all.
To me, the seats are ruined when Cletus at the dealer breaks out the hog ring pliers and begins to "fix" the issue. Techs who are used to oil changes, software flashes, and tire rotations are certainly not as skilled in interior refurbishment and are mere "parts replacement guys" compared to an auto upholstery shop.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are issues down the road (prematurely failed seat heaters, prematurely failed stitching, etc.) due to the extra human hands tampering with the covers.
For those who have to go through this, I'm sorry! Shame on Mercedes for not using factory seats as replacements.
Gives you an idea of what is involved:
To me, the seats are ruined when Cletus at the dealer breaks out the hog ring pliers and begins to "fix" the issue. Techs who are used to oil changes, software flashes, and tire rotations are certainly not as skilled in interior refurbishment and are mere "parts replacement guys" compared to an auto upholstery shop.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are issues down the road (prematurely failed seat heaters, prematurely failed stitching, etc.) due to the extra human hands tampering with the covers.
For those who have to go through this, I'm sorry! Shame on Mercedes for not using factory seats as replacements.
Gives you an idea of what is involved:
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This is exactly why ANY dealer doing seat cover replacement will not be the same as factory-perfect. I would not be happy with this solution at all.
To me, the seats are ruined when Cletus at the dealer breaks out the hog ring pliers and begins to "fix" the issue. Techs who are used to oil changes, software flashes, and tire rotations are certainly not as skilled in interior refurbishment and are mere "parts replacement guys" compared to an auto upholstery shop.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are issues down the road (prematurely failed seat heaters, prematurely failed stitching, etc.) due to the extra human hands tampering with the covers.
To me, the seats are ruined when Cletus at the dealer breaks out the hog ring pliers and begins to "fix" the issue. Techs who are used to oil changes, software flashes, and tire rotations are certainly not as skilled in interior refurbishment and are mere "parts replacement guys" compared to an auto upholstery shop.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are issues down the road (prematurely failed seat heaters, prematurely failed stitching, etc.) due to the extra human hands tampering with the covers.
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Regardless, your choices are to leave the defective material in place, let the dealer do the cover replacement, or sell your car. Since the covers are OEM, I doubt their replacement would result in any additional issues at any time. Mine came out fine, others not as good. MB refuses to do complete seat replacements, so options are very limited if your seats are affected.
Wondering how many who got the replacement have more wrinkles now than before. And dealers telling you the wrinkles will "smooth out over time" as straight up BS'ing.