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Old May 19, 2015 | 02:53 AM
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jerk push or jolt in Automatic Transmission between 2nd and 3rd Gear

Since I received the car from the showroom (Zero -Km) I found 3 problems with my car as follows:
1- The Driver's door was not closing in a right way.
2- The Touch pad was defected as the bottom was not clicking.
3- Defected shifting Jerk push and a flare that happens between the 2nd and the 3rd shift.
I went to Mercedes Benz Dealer to inform them about my claim and till now Mercedes Benz took the Car more than 10 times during the last 10 months, and the shifting defect is not solved.
I wrote a complaint to the Dealer and to Dr Dieter Zetsche, Chairman of Mercedes-Benz, as well as Mercedes Customer Service Department.
In the beginning the Dealer confirmed verbally that it is a well known issue at Mercedes Benz Germany and within 2 weeks there will be a software update which will solve it , after doing the software update for more than 5 times they denied the problem and confirmed that “ it belongs to the product “ and by the end of December 2014 they took the car and changed its Transmission unit and when I told them that the problem still exists they told me that after confirming with Mercedes Benz Headquarters “ The car is now better than it came from the Factory in Germany and the Jerk push and the flare that happens between the 2nd and the 3rd shift belongs to the product “ and they are not going to do anything more.
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Old May 19, 2015 | 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MHelmy
Since I received the car from the showroom (Zero -Km) I found 3 problems with my car as follows:
1- The Driver's door was not closing in a right way.
2- The Touch pad was defected as the bottom was not clicking.
3- Defected shifting Jerk push and a flare that happens between the 2nd and the 3rd shift.
I went to Mercedes Benz Dealer to inform them about my claim and till now Mercedes Benz took the Car more than 10 times during the last 10 months, and the shifting defect is not solved.
I wrote a complaint to the Dealer and to Dr Dieter Zetsche, Chairman of Mercedes-Benz, as well as Mercedes Customer Service Department.
In the beginning the Dealer confirmed verbally that it is a well known issue at Mercedes Benz Germany and within 2 weeks there will be a software update which will solve it , after doing the software update for more than 5 times they denied the problem and confirmed that “ it belongs to the product “ and by the end of December 2014 they took the car and changed its Transmission unit and when I told them that the problem still exists they told me that after confirming with Mercedes Benz Headquarters “ The car is now better than it came from the Factory in Germany and the Jerk push and the flare that happens between the 2nd and the 3rd shift belongs to the product “ and they are not going to do anything more.
The issue between 2nd and 3rd gears has several mentions across various posts in the forum. All I can recommend is, that if you are not happy, then keep the pressure up on your dealer to fix it, to your satisfaction.
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Old May 19, 2015 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jolt8631
The issue between 2nd and 3rd gears has several mentions across various posts in the forum. All I can recommend is, that if you are not happy, then keep the pressure up on your dealer to fix it, to your satisfaction.
They reached a point to confirm through the customer service of the company itself that it belongs to this model ... do you know about someone who solve this annoying issue?
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Old May 19, 2015 | 04:58 AM
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I mentioned this issue the first day I got my car in March. Its really annoying, in fact I find the shifting poor in all gears dependent on the circumstance. For example, when cold, shifts between D2 and D3 are bad, they make my neck jerk and are far from smooth. Once warmed up shifting is better but given 90% of my journeys are with a cold car I get this a lot and its on my list of niggles to ask the dealer about at some point. On the whole, other gears shift fine but shifting when going uphill can be jerky at times and there is also drivetrain slam in ECO mode when it disengages to coast and then you resume by pressing the throttle. Overall, the drivetrain is THE worst part of this car for me. I'm hopeful that in time, with some miles and a few software updates they'll finally solve it because there's no way I'm putting up with this shifting issue.
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Old May 19, 2015 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ManiacGT
I mentioned this issue the first day I got my car in March. Its really annoying, in fact I find the shifting poor in all gears dependent on the circumstance. For example, when cold, shifts between D2 and D3 are bad, they make my neck jerk and are far from smooth. Once warmed up shifting is better but given 90% of my journeys are with a cold car I get this a lot and its on my list of niggles to ask the dealer about at some point. On the whole, other gears shift fine but shifting when going uphill can be jerky at times and there is also drivetrain slam in ECO mode when it disengages to coast and then you resume by pressing the throttle. Overall, the drivetrain is THE worst part of this car for me. I'm hopeful that in time, with some miles and a few software updates they'll finally solve it because there's no way I'm putting up with this shifting issue.
Totally agree with this. I'm assuming with you saying it disengages to coast you also have a hybrid?

That drivetrain slam you mentioned is particularly bad when I'm on electric only mode and it changes from 1st to 2nd
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Old May 19, 2015 | 06:27 AM
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No I have the 2 litre petrol turbo. In Eco mode is disengages the gearbox to allow the car to coast, minimising fuel usage (another bug bear, as I'm getting MPG nowhere near the advertised values, and I don't mean a bit near, I mean miles away from the advertised values, best I've managed on a 65mph 300 mile run was 41MPG. My 3.0 turbo BMW z4 does this. Anyhow, back to drivetrain disappointment... lol.
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Old May 19, 2015 | 06:36 AM
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Ahh I see.

Don't get me started on mpg either lol. Quoted at an average 76mpg combined, best I have ever gotten taking it extremely steady is 56mpg.
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Old May 19, 2015 | 06:49 AM
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Sounds to me it's time to contact an attorney.

I'm going through something similar with my 2014 V6 Jeep Grand Cherokee when it comes to a rough downshifting transmission...a known issue and the reason I'm getting rid of it. My Jeep has had 4 reflashes performed, yet it STILL has the same rough downshift from 2nd to 1st. So after many trips to multiple dealerships and calls to Chrysler Customer Care to lodge complaints & receive case numbers, I got fed up with the false promises & excuses, and contacted a law firm who handles "Lemon Law" cases in my state.
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Old May 19, 2015 | 06:51 AM
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As this is the UK we don't have the legal infrastructure the US has to protect us, its a very hard battle. In any event this is not serious enough to go legal just yet, I'll give them time to try and address it first.
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Old May 19, 2015 | 03:43 PM
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I have had the car in workshop for this almost 9 times. Even the technical guys at Mercedes in Norway drove the car and they all agreed it was a issue. I was at the workshop this monday to check if any new updates for the gearbox had been released. The mechanic had a phonecall with the technical dept. in Germany, and they said that this was a known issue. A software update was on its way after summer.


Personally i have been so used to it, i get really surprised when driving another car on how smooth their transmission is.
But even with all the problems - i really love the car.
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Old May 19, 2015 | 03:57 PM
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After summer! Wow

I don't expect super smooth shifts like my BMW DCT (which is incidentally incredible) but I also don't expect worse shifts than I can do in a manual car!

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Old May 19, 2015 | 06:10 PM
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I have had the car in workshop for this almost 9 times. Even the technical guys at Mercedes in Norway drove the car and they all agreed it was a issue. I was at the workshop this monday to check if any new updates for the gearbox had been released. The mechanic had a phonecall with the technical dept. in Germany, and they said that this was a known issue. A software update was on its way after summer.


Personally i have been so used to it, i get really surprised when driving another car on how smooth their transmission is.
But even with all the problems - i really love the car.
Thanks for sharing the update and info.

Have you noticed any improvement with the previous flash updates they did?
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Old May 20, 2015 | 04:25 PM
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Sorry to say but no change in jerkiness.
Will have to wait for the next software update, which it seems is mostly to address this issue. Maybe it will be prioritized if enough people complain.
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I find this thread depressing as hell since I'm getting rid of a newer vehicle because of a rough shifting transmission.

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Old May 21, 2015 | 02:37 AM
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I know its no comfort but these issues seem only to appear on the M274 Engine.
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Old May 21, 2015 | 04:07 AM
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I know its no comfort but these issues seem only to appear on the M274 Engine.
Regardless of the engine, they should be able to match revs and have logic to determine gear shifting properly, everyone else can.
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Old May 21, 2015 | 04:18 AM
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I have no issues other than the 2-3 jerk, do you have other problems?
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Old May 21, 2015 | 05:57 AM
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There are no problems with the car specifically, its more niggles, things that are just plain undeveloped, like the 2-3 jerk in the 'box when cold. It can do it in other gears dependent on steep inclines etc. Its simply not matching gears vs engine properly at times. 2-3 being the most obvious. Other niggles are two paint nibs I've located on the passenger door entry sill, traffic being a bit intermittent (along with SOS and other call functions) which makes me thing its signal or main service related and not the car, some temperature related creaks from the dash and usability problems like searching music for an artist, finding that it lists the artist, then artist featuring blah1, artist featuring blah2 etc, so you choose one, realise the track you wanted isn't there but you can't then go back, you have to start the search all over again for the artist, then choose the next one in the list. You should be able to step back or it should have a way of listing all tracks with that artist upon it. The BMW works this way, it makes track finding very easy, just press back. etc. Nothing major, just annoying stuff. IMHO COMAND needs a real re-think, its hard to use on the go and annoying quirks like the music search are frustrating. Oh another one, sometimes I search by voice 'Search by Artist' so up comes an artist and I choose it, it then displays a message 'say an album' but doesn't list any, so I have to remember the album (which I usually can't) and at this point I just cancel the music search out of frustration.

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Old May 21, 2015 | 07:08 AM
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On cold start, my car jerks once on the very first shift from 2 to 3. There is no further jerking after that. Is this considered normal?
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Old May 21, 2015 | 07:21 AM
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One jerk () on each upwards gear change is normal on this gear box
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Old May 21, 2015 | 07:53 AM
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Thing is, the saloon C200 I test drove didn't seem to have any 'box issues, perhaps the car was already warmed up.
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Cant say I have experienced any issues with gear changes/shift patterns at all.
Definitely won't any competitions against a Zf 8 Speed... but good all the same
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Old May 22, 2015 | 02:25 AM
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On cold start, my car jerks once on the very first shift from 2 to 3. There is no further jerking after that. Is this considered normal?
That is exactly what my C300 does.
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Old May 22, 2015 | 10:55 AM
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I have no issues other than the 2-3 jerk, do you have other problems?
Vic, is there any way an owner can check the software editions of the transmission, or other components without additional gear?

Long overdue to say, thank you for your tremendous contributions to this forum!
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Old May 22, 2015 | 02:15 PM
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My c300 is also a bit jerky when shifting up or down. Probably most noticeable between 2nd and 3rd but elsewhere too. I wouldn't say it jerks my body though.

I just happened to have a Honda CRV rental today and in comparison it shifts so incredibly smoothly its imperceptible! In the c300 it is always noticeable when it shifts to some degree especially when I smash the gas. On the Honda if do that it is still perfectly smooth.

Why does a cheap Honda do it better than my Mercedes? Is this normal for more powerful engines like the c300 or not?
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