Vinmerc

Greetings all. I'm currently leasing a BMW 428xi and will be transitioning to a Mercedes C300 4MATIC sedan when my BMW lease expires in April 2018.

I've extensively test driven various 2017 C300 4MATIC coupes and sedans and loved them all. I'm leaning towards a C300 4MATIC sedan with the Luxury Package but have heard rumors that Mercedes will be discontinuing the C300 sedan with the Luxury Package beginning with the 2018 model year.

If anyone can substantiate this rumor or point me to a resource for 2018 Mercedes C300's I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks!

MJ50

moved to W205 forum...

ManiacGT

Don't do it!!!!! Lol

Mike5215

Welcome. So the Lux package is essentially cosmetic, with a couple of exceptions:

The suspension height is higher, softening the ride, and the 17" wheels soften it further.

There are some interior colors and trims unique to the Lux.

If you're not a fan of the AMG Sport package (also primarily cosmetic, but with a firmer ride due to a lowered suspension and 18" wheels) and can't find a Lux, the Base car with AirMatic and 17" wheels would serve the same purpose, and the cosmetic differences are minor. Plus the Base is a little cheaper.

Gungaslow

I second.. don't do it.. stay with bmw!!! Mercedes quality is terrible!

Mike5215

Then there's that...

removedCFGaccount

And, the four cylinder is guaranteed to disappoint: cough, sputter, wheeze, knock....

mcbc220

They seem to be evening out now that the W205 is in year three of production. I know a couple of people who've had serious engine problems (timing chain issue you see on forums for one of them, awful build quality for another) with their F3x cars. It's a crapshoot.

Mike5215

I've learned to accept that for Mercedes the C is a mass produced economy car (as is the BMW 3-4). They don't design or build them with the care they put into their premium products, like the S. Mainly because buyers at the $100k price point won't tolerate wheezing engines, interior rattles or a stiff ride.

Ideally a 205 would be every bit as good as a scaled down, less expensive 222 but unfortunately that's not the case. I like the C for what it is and I enjoy driving it but in my mind I don't think of it as a "real" Mercedes. I've actually owned a few "real" ones, and for my next car I'll probably be hunting down another.

For the same money, a CPO 221 S or 216 CL would give you a much better handle on what Mercedes is capable of when budget isn't an over riding priority.

MASSC450

And that's a bad thing?

Mike5215

Yeah, having a C with a "luxury" package is like having a stripper with a "nun" package. Everybody knows she's not a real nun.

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I'm no nothing of religious analogies, allegories or mystic scrolls, but I assure you the four cylinder isn't your thing.

Mike5215

He said he's driven a bunch of C300s and loved them all so apparently the T4 isn't a deal breaker for him.

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It is one thing to visit with a nun, and yet another to frequent one.

DapperStyle

428i has a T4 too.

Gungaslow

The Mercedes 4 cylinder is junk

removedCFGaccount

There are Fours and there are 4s. In 1974, I had a BMW 2002 Tii, and it was as smooth as a baby's ***. The Mercedes is just a baby's ***.

Oh, Gunga, I think that is a bit hard on junk. ��

Gungaslow

Go for the c43 instead... so much better!!

removedCFGaccount

That's the ticket!

Mike5215

Pay no attention to these C43 leg-humpers. The T4 is fine. If you pulled the mufflers off of a C300 and put an AMG badge on it they'd be all over the thing.

removedCFGaccount

Ha, ha! I assure you I can tell crap from Shinola, both by smell and perception.

This pile doesn't even compare to my first four, an MG b, way back when. And, nobody claimed that was a smooth engine.

You can guild a turd, but underneath....

Mike5215

...it's still a C Class.

removedCFGaccount

Well, people in Hell want ice water. Give me a smooth turd any day. The best or nun.

Mikey53

First thing to remember is, discount 90% of what Gungaslow posts 😀

removedCFGaccount

OK, the four is 10 per cent junk?

Op, don't do it....