Track Results 2012 CLS63 - 11.3's with a tune only on street tires
 

I finally got my 2012 CLS63 to the track tonight. The only mod on this car is the V-Tech tune and I was running on the factory wheels & tires. No drag radials!!!

I came home with several 11.3 slips and trap speeds in the 126 mph range :D
I'm blown away by the results. If I had drag radials the times would have been much better. I had to launch off idle otherwise my times would suffer due to wheel spin.

THANK YOU V-tech!!! :bow::bow:

I've got some video footage that I'll upload to youtube for you guys tomorrow.

Great trap speeds for a stage 1 tune. The car is making power.

Very Nice!

I'm definitely impressed

ON A 1.8 60 FOOTER!!!! (me with mouth just agape)

I finally know the feeling of awe my grandmother gets when I turn on the net in front of her and she stares in bewilderment.

Just doesn't seem possible from all the years of trying SO hard with the old 55's.

Congrats!!! :bow::bow:

Thanks for the complements guys :y

Yep, 11.3's with a crappy 1.8 60' time. Imagine if I had drag radials the time this car would be running :eek:

Awesome results!

How much is that VTech tune?

Thank you!
I paid just under $2000
You order the tune here
http://www.4-tecperformance.com/inde...oducts_id=1930

They are in the US

Easy 10 sec. run with a 1.6 60ft! :eek:

Car is hauling as is!!! Congrats! :bow: :cheers:

Did you use race start? Sweet times, by the way.

I tried race start the first few passes and it always resulted in unwanted wheel spin followed by a bog. Now, with drag radials I think this was the hot ticket.

My launch was leaving just off idle. If I tried to rev it any off of idle the tires would spin. It just goes to show you how much is left in this "tune only" car if I were to run on some drag radials. I think I could set a new record ;)

VTECH BABY!!!! :y

I just uploaded some vids for you guys

Here's the 11.346 pass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_owyI...ature=youtu.be

Here's the 11.376 pass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mtNG...ature=youtu.be

and here's the 11.398 pass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hAUj...ature=youtu.be

Enjoy :)

Nice results!

nice indeed.

very nice

Cars a beast:y

No Problem Raceway:)

holy crap man , you werent kidding.

but why are you plugging the vtech website in your description? do you work for them?

Told you :)

No I don't work for them, but the guy doing the V-Tech tunes is the same guy that tunes my 1000 RWHP ZO6. They are local to me here in Louisiana and I like supporting my local peeps :y

It's never a problem at No Problem :D

ok gotcha..

wow. im gonna have to order that tune when my CLS comes in.

this will be serious competition for the new ///M5.


speaking of z06, your cls63 would most likely take a stock z06, huh?

You won't be disappointed in the tune I assure you ;)

I'd say it would be a close race depending on the driver of the ZO6. When my ZO6 was stock I was able to run consistent 11.6's on street tires.
Now, there are certain "hot shoe" drivers that have run 10's in a stock ZO6 with stock tires. Below is the top 10 contenders from the Corvette Forum's "Fast List" under the bone stock /stock tires category. Pretty impressive :bow:

The C6 Z06 Fast List
Last Updated: December 20, 2011

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Bone-Stock on Stock Tires
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Rank~~ E.T.~~ Trap~ 60'~ Driver~~~~~ M.Yr. Details Thread Video
1~~~~ 10.981 128.90 1.77 Jamie Furman~ 2006 details~~ thread
2~~~~ 11.025 127.25 1.70 Ranger ~~~~~ 2006 details~~ thread video
3~~~~ 11.177 127.08 1.79 walterm32~~~ 2008 details~~ thread
4~~~~ 11.242 122.38 1.68 Dr.Ron ~~~~~ 2006 details~~ thread
5~~~~ 11.311 122.89 1.80 BLU-BY-U ~~~ 2006 details~~ thread
6~~~~ 11.349 124.97 1.75 zosix427 ~~~~ 2006 details~~
7~~~~ 11.392 124.84 1.92 C5 Frank ~~~~ 2006 details~~ thread
8~~~~ 11.429 124.88 1.86 dgdoc ~~~~~~ 2006 details~~ thread video
9~~~~ 11.443 125.93 1.95 O7zeeO6 ~~~~ 2007 details~~ thread
10~~~ 11.458 124.13 1.80 layjzay~~~~~~ 2006 details~~

strange, yet all the vids of corvettes (that appear stock) I've seen on YouTube they always seem to run like mid 12's - mid 13's.

The perfect Z06 launch is very difficult.

this is hard to believe. what about your Z06 now?

The NEW CLS 63 is a monster monster monster.

Remember you gotta be 1000 lbs more than those Z's thats an amazing trap and ET

Congrats on the passes! You're trapping a solid 1-2 MPH higher than Renntech and also putting down 26 RWHP more as well:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-23298.html

Were your runs on straight 93 octane or did you mix in some race fuel?

Very nice numbers!!

If someone is only running 12's let alone 13's in a C6 ZO6 then they have absolutely horrible driving skills!

What's hard to believe? Those times on the ZO6 fast list? Those times are 100% real and criteria must be met before a time is included on that list. Check out the complete list here
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...fast-list.html

As far as my ZO6 here is my best time to date
https://i130.photobucket.com/albums/...ddis68/908.jpg

My car will be running consistent 8's in the next few weeks as I'm installing a trans brake :y

Yep, that V-tech tune is incredible. Those times are on 93 octane pump gas :y

it's just that the videos I've seen don't coincide with these crazy times . I thought the stock quoted time for a zo6 was around 12 flat. and even a zr1 was around 11.6. ???

I just didn't think that a car as technologically unadvanced as the zo6 , as well as being a pretty old platform would be that fast. ie I figure a brand new cls63 or f10 m5 "should" be able to walk all over a crappy old zo6 .

no offense.

j just find them to be kindof " all brawn and no brains" type of car

Maybe you are looking at videos of regular base model Corvettes?
GM advertises 11.7 quarter mile times for the ZO6 and 11.3 for the ZR1.

Technologically unadvanced? Really? Perhaps you should do some more research on them. They are an extremely advanced driving machine and hold records at the Nurburgring beating out cars costing hundreds of thousands more :y

And in case you're curious, here are the bone stock on stock tire times from the ZR1 fast list. If you click "video" it will bring to to the videos of these cars running the crazy times ;)
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Bone-Stock on Stock Tires
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Rank~~ E.T.~~ Trap~ 60'~ Driver~~~~~ M.Yr. Details Thread Video
1~~~~ 10.664 132.92 1.68 Kyle Lemish ~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
2~~~~ 10.740 133.21 1.74 Kyle Lemish ~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
3~~~~ 10.794 132.21 1.80 jamie furman ~ 2009 details~~ thread
4~~~~ 10.851 129.89 1.70 racerns ~~~~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
5~~~~ 10.950 131.61 1.83 VY ZR1 ~~~~~ 2009 details
6~~~~ 11.071 129.87 1.87 SlowZo6 ~~~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
7~~~~ 11.235 125.99 1.99 Incon306~~~~ 2010 details


The complete ZR1 fast list is here
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...fast-list.html

and that time of 9 seconds was obviously on a very modified zo6 right?

what did you say like 1000 hp?

I don really expect to compare cars that heavily modded to a cls63.

and 11.3 is still pretty kick ass for a basically stock car. that heavy. even though it has a tune, the way i lopk at it the car is essentually stock form, and the tune only releases the potential that's already in the car right ? no physical changes to the car . just basicly " turning up the volume" a bit ...

yes, my car is highly modified and lays down just over 1000 hp to the wheels.

I'm not comparing them. You asked me what my car ran so I showed you. There is no comparison :)

Absolutely! I'm extremely impressed that I was able to consistently run 11.3s with only a V-Tech tune and on the stock tires. It's phenomenal when you think about it.

Yes, the tune just unleashes the car's potential :y

You must drive a Z06 to appreciate the insane performance and capabilities, even a stock model. My car has about 100RWHP over stock and it makes the CLS 63 seem slow when taking off from 60MPH. Maxing out 3rd and 4th gear on the Z06 is quite scary, it's just brutal performance for a N/A street car. Hopefully a tune on the CLS63 will fix things up a bit.

V-tech tune? Are you sure? Or is it a TechTec tune?

do you have the P.P cls63?

2012?

Yup... Check out the z06 videos on YouTube...

yeah i have seen a few z06's on youtube, thats the only place ive seen them... i havent spent much time researching them though, as i dont care for them really. since ive owned a german car, pretty much all american cars just come across as a joke to me. especially in the looks dept.


and your z06 makes a cls63 with performance package seem SLOW?

I'm 100% sure. I've never heard of Techtec?
Check out the V-Tech tunes here
http://www.4-tecperformance.com/inde...&cPath=180_191

A Z06 with 100 more RWHP than stock will make a CLS63, even a tuned CLS63 seem slow!!!!

Your lack of knowledge about the Z has obviously given you the wrong impression about this American made super car. A car with that much power, aluminum frame, carbon fiber body parts and weighs in at a mere 3200 lbs is far from a joke :naughty:

Keep in mind that our CLS63 sedans are 4200 lbs, 1000 more lbs than a crappy old Z06. While our tuned CLS63's are a force to be reckoned with, be very weary of pulling along side of a stock Z06 and think that you're going to take him. If he has mod's, even just a few bolt on's, it's going to get ugly for you really quick :rolf:

Its all about power to weight and the Z06 rules here. But Im not so afraid at a dig to line up because most of the Orange County Z06 drivers are not that great at heel toe and our mash and go capabilities are simplistic. In my 997TT PDK I fear almost no one from a dig.

I know the Z06 is a great car. But the driver factor plays a larger role than it does in ours. Personally Id get one but Im so damn lazy and tired of rowing. My last car with a manny was my 996TT.

I agree 100%. Most people that buy them are clueless on how to drive one properly. I also got tired of rowing gears and converted mine over to an auto :y

yeah their like 1100 lbs lighter. thats a lot.

but from a dig couldnt they just leave there traction control on? or do they not come with any.

I may be wrong but I think its just a harder car to drive with the clutch from a dig. Im sure it has lsd.

They come with LSD, traction control and also something called active handling. Despite the fact that it's built by Chevrolet, it's a very advanced performance machine :rolf:

Even with traction control it's very easy to get it sideways. The car is no way built like a German car but if your just looking for a fun/affordable muscle car, this is it.

Yep, the V-Tech tune is amazing. I'm running 93 octane because it's readily available to me here. The tune is actually for 91 octane :y

Ready, do you have factory LSD option or aftermarket? Is stock one at only 30% locking really worth it and help any with off the line starts?

I have the factory LSD which is 40% locking. It's definitely working. No wheel spin off the line launching just off idle. As you can tell by the time slips it's working very well for me :D

Yes those times are amazing! check this website: http://www.mbusa.com/amg/build/#/mod...ction-options/ and roll over the LSD option. It says it is only 30% locking (not that there is much difference between 40 or 30%) and that was my only concern and I know Renntech's is 100% locking but it will probably cost close to $4500 total (at least) by the time you factor in full installation cost and if factory one still works great for half the cost and full MB warranty then I will probably just add it on.

Ah yes I see that now. I saw on another site it was 40%, but I definitely trust what the mbusa site says at 30%. Either way it's working very well.

My concern with the 100% locking is what if you ran on some real grippy drag radial with a lot of HP and dead hooked at the track and started breaking driveline parts. Maybe MB goes with 30% locking for a reason?

Good point.

Incredible results! If we can help anyone with a tune please let me know.

To OP,
Nice times. Congrats. Makes me want a E63 Wagon even more.:D

This thread was also good for a laugh.

Mainly, I would suggest going to the track to actually see what cars can do. Not basing your facts off of you-tube videos.

My 2002 Firehawk stock was able to run 12.96. How you think C6Z06 run 13's is beyond me. Heck, when I had my 03 Cobra, I was running this guy with a 2003 Corvette convert, auto. All he had was an intake and catback. He was running 13.1@107 in the middle of summer.

My 04 Z06 with just the ziptie mod was good for 12 flat.

I have also personally seen a bolt on C6 Z06 walk a 2.8L KenneBell Cobra cobra.

Corvettes are great cars, don't discount them solely on their make.:y

Props to Ready2Roll as his runs very are impressive on street tires (Sorry for the re-post but I believe appropriate here as well).

These cars will easily blow the tires away from a roll when tuned, so getting it to hook on street tires was no small feat.

The three runs you posted all were 1.8 60 foot times. Two 1.83s and a 1.84. Same as some of our runs on drag radials. Track prep must have been good.

I would suspect that you must have had a run or two where you spun the tires, had a worse short (60 foot) time and ran in the mid to high 11s. Maybe I am wrong. Nobody likes posting runs of them spinning and running ****ty times.

The 126 mph trap establishes that your car is making good power. And the 1.83 short time shows that you are putting it to the ground. Hartmut just ran a 10.92 @ over 131 mph in his CLS this past weekend in + 1200 DA on a 1.8 60 foot with exhaust mods. So there is more power to come. I didn't get a chance to drive it this weekend. I believe my best best 60 foot to date with the Renntech CLS is 1.7. No 1.6s yet. As such, I think 10.60s are in reach.

That being said on the night you ran your 11.3 at No Problem Drag Strip it was in the 40s with a DA of nearly negative -1000 foot.

So to compare apples to apples (or pick the fruit of your choice), the conditions would have to be the same. The runs with the Renntech CLS are generally in a postive DA of +1000 to 1500. The RT CLS has run in the 11.2 and 11.3 with a 1.8 60 foot (like yours) but in + 1500 DA. In sum, drag radial or not, the 60 foots are the same (1.8). So, in tune only form the cars would run similar times in similar conditions. Your car did have the benefit of 40 degree weather, lighter ceramic brakes, better DA by about 2000 feet, and an LSD.

So hats off to you for a good running car.

Let's keep it real and list the other modifications on Hartmut's car
He was also running downpipes w/high flow cats (200 cell) and intercooler upgrade, light weight skinny's on the front of the car and maybe other mods nobody is aware of? Maybe mixing some race gas? Not accusing... just saying!

Thanks once again. I too think it's a remarkable feat that I was able to run consistent 11.3's back to back with the OEM rubber. No doubt the 40 degree air that night was helping.

Damn that's awesome! Congrats!!! And that Z06 is Badass!

Thanks my friend!

Oh come now, Mr. 8 Second Z06. You know darn well that once you start modding a car for performance, what the factory spec'd for a stock vehicle is no longer pertinent. Tell us you haven't upgraded hard parts to sustain 1000rwhp whacks...

If you want to take a setup making a lot of horsepower as far as it can go, you have to beef up the supporting components. Or break them and keep replacing them - whatever floats your boat. Gonna cost money either way. Of course you know first hand, so that's not addressed to you. :zoom:

Absolutely I know all too well. Everything in my Z has been upgraded to 300M shafts costing many thousands. It's built to the hilt!

My point was is my CLS63 is my family sedan and hitting the drag strip regularly and modding to the point that I start breaking axles is not where I intend to go with this car. I'm extremely satisfied with my tune only and oem rubber. The cars a beast as is and I have no worries of breaking parts!

That cleared it up properly.

<-- This car will never see a track again due to fear of the flatbed.

Ummmm no not quite!
It will go to the track on occasion.

What it will not see is exhaust mods, bigger inter coolers, skinnys and drag radials. I'm perfectly content with my CLS the way it is. ;)

I was pointing at my W211 E :P

aaaah, I understand :)