Motor Trend states there will be NO C63! C55 Remains in 08!
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 7,092
Likes: 13
From: Salt Lake City (but not Morm)
2003 E55 & 2014 GL550
Motor Trend states there will be NO C63! C55 Remains in 08!
I think the info is wrong, no way Benz would put the 6.3 in everything under the stars and not the new C.
Regardless......it's here for ya for your reading enjoyment.
For the U.S., expect the engine range to be the C280 V-6 (228 horsepower), C350 V-6 (268 horsepower) and the C550 V-8 (380 horsepower), all with the automaker's seven-speed automatic. After a year a C55 AMG is expected. If the current German horsepower war continues, there's room under the hood for a C63 AMG, ready to out-gun even the upcoming V-8-engined BMW M3.
http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...s_benz_c_class
Regardless......it's here for ya for your reading enjoyment.
For the U.S., expect the engine range to be the C280 V-6 (228 horsepower), C350 V-6 (268 horsepower) and the C550 V-8 (380 horsepower), all with the automaker's seven-speed automatic. After a year a C55 AMG is expected. If the current German horsepower war continues, there's room under the hood for a C63 AMG, ready to out-gun even the upcoming V-8-engined BMW M3.
http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...s_benz_c_class
Super Moderator Alumni
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,539
Likes: 4
From: Southern Cal
a C32 AMG & S-Works Tarmac
Consider the source. Motor Trend is for the guy looking for reviews on the Accord, Camry and Saturn ION. The tone of the paragraph makes it sound like he is just an uninformed speculator.
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 497
Likes: 0
From: Canada
Looking for a new toy.
I really don't see them bringing back a 360hp C55 if there's going to be a 380hp C550?! 
But then it looks like there's going to be no SLK63 either with the SLK55 soldiering on for a few more years, so who knows.
But then it looks like there's going to be no SLK63 either with the SLK55 soldiering on for a few more years, so who knows.
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 441
Likes: 1
From: SoCal
2008 CLK63 AMG Black Series, 2022 BMW X3 M40i
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,057
Likes: 341
From: NJ
2009 SL63 AMG
The reasoning I read behind a no-go for the SLK63 was clearance for the big 6.2 Litre. So, I have a very simple solution to this: drop the 5.4 Litre Kompressor in both the SLK55 and C55. The motor has been around for several years, and is proven performance-wise. Awe the gearheads and overcome the competition.
Trending Topics
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,436
Likes: 6
300ce
The reasoning I read behind a no-go for the SLK63 was clearance for the big 6.2 Litre. So, I have a very simple solution to this: drop the 5.4 Litre Kompressor in both the SLK55 and C55. The motor has been around for several years, and is proven performance-wise. Awe the gearheads and overcome the competition.
...........I share your admiration for the AMGV8K engines. Unfortunately they are gone forever. Part of the reason MB might be undecided about the C63 or SLK63 is because these do not not currently have the AMGV8K engines. If they did, they Will be replaced with the 63 for sure. All AMGV8K engines WILL be gone in the next few years. The only mystery here is the SL55, where no SL63 has been announced. Rumours of a twin turbo version are abound.
Ted
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)
Verdad Gallardo
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping
Verdad Gallardo
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 329
Likes: 1
e55
from a business stand point the C63 does not make sense. it would cause way too many problems with sales in the "higher" models. Like BMW, they will play teh same game where they make sure their higher models are always superior and will penalize the lower models to be slower. thats almost always the case, otherwise they'd lose sales on the more $$ cars.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,513
Likes: 0
C32 AMG
from a business stand point the C63 does not make sense. it would cause way too many problems with sales in the "higher" models. Like BMW, they will play teh same game where they make sure their higher models are always superior and will penalize the lower models to be slower. thats almost always the case, otherwise they'd lose sales on the more $$ cars.
I think it's a mistake to think that "higher" means faster. The M3 is always faster than the M5, and it's not considered an unusual situation. Cadillac's smallest car (CTS-V) is its fastest, Audi's RS4 is its smallest 4 door sedan in the US, and its fastest.
"Higher" means bigger, and bigger means heavier. People don't buy an "S" class because it can outrun a "C" class. They buy it because it has seat massage and acres of butter-soft leather.
The "C" class should be designed to compete with the M3 and RS4, and not to make the "E" and "S" classes look good.
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 441
Likes: 1
From: SoCal
2008 CLK63 AMG Black Series, 2022 BMW X3 M40i
In order for the C class AMG to be on the same level as the existing RS4 and next gen M3, Mercedes-Benz must make the C63 available. It would be foolish not to.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,240
Likes: 5
From: New Jersey
E550 4MATIC
I'd like to know what idiot at Motor Trend thinks there will be a C550. That is the funniest thing I have ever heard. Even if MB did want to offer a larger engine in the C-Class that wasn't AMG, wouldnt it make more sense to see the 450 engine? But I think even that is unlikely.
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 295
Likes: 53
From: Reno, NV
2015 C63 AMG S Edition 1, 2021 GLS63, 2020 McLaren 600LT Spider
Guys,
Do not fear, I am confident that Motor Trend got it wrong. See:http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../FREE/61113008
AutoWeek reports that the C63 will indeed be coming but will be detuned slightly to ONLY 450HP. Specifically, AW writes:
"While C-Class arrives with smaller engines in Europe next year, look for a U.S. debut in late summer with engine offerings including a 3.0-liter 231-hp V6 and 3.5-liter 272-hp V6. The AMG model will ditch the existing 5.4-liter 367-hp V8 for a detuned version of the company’s 6.2-liter V8 kicking out 450 hp—30 hp more than is rumored for BMW’s upcoming 4.0-liter V8-powered M3."
Do not fear, I am confident that Motor Trend got it wrong. See:http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../FREE/61113008
AutoWeek reports that the C63 will indeed be coming but will be detuned slightly to ONLY 450HP. Specifically, AW writes:
"While C-Class arrives with smaller engines in Europe next year, look for a U.S. debut in late summer with engine offerings including a 3.0-liter 231-hp V6 and 3.5-liter 272-hp V6. The AMG model will ditch the existing 5.4-liter 367-hp V8 for a detuned version of the company’s 6.2-liter V8 kicking out 450 hp—30 hp more than is rumored for BMW’s upcoming 4.0-liter V8-powered M3."
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 5,475
Likes: 5
From: City with Tall buildings!
C43/55,2k11 Volvo S60 T6AWD,2k Audi B5 S4,95 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD 500+awhp
Guys,
Do not fear, I am confident that Motor Trend got it wrong. See:http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../FREE/61113008
AutoWeek reports that the C63 will indeed be coming but will be detuned slightly to ONLY 450HP. Specifically, AW writes:
"While C-Class arrives with smaller engines in Europe next year, look for a U.S. debut in late summer with engine offerings including a 3.0-liter 231-hp V6 and 3.5-liter 272-hp V6. The AMG model will ditch the existing 5.4-liter 367-hp V8 for a detuned version of the company’s 6.2-liter V8 kicking out 450 hp—30 hp more than is rumored for BMW’s upcoming 4.0-liter V8-powered M3."
Do not fear, I am confident that Motor Trend got it wrong. See:http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../FREE/61113008
AutoWeek reports that the C63 will indeed be coming but will be detuned slightly to ONLY 450HP. Specifically, AW writes:
"While C-Class arrives with smaller engines in Europe next year, look for a U.S. debut in late summer with engine offerings including a 3.0-liter 231-hp V6 and 3.5-liter 272-hp V6. The AMG model will ditch the existing 5.4-liter 367-hp V8 for a detuned version of the company’s 6.2-liter V8 kicking out 450 hp—30 hp more than is rumored for BMW’s upcoming 4.0-liter V8-powered M3."
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,424
Likes: 3
From: New York City
C55 ///AMG, 535xi
maybe the C550 will come out first, to smack the 335i in the face. then amg is gonna giggle and maybe smack in the 63 a year or two later! then say
"ah-ha! M3! unguard"
but if there is a c550 i'll def get one
"ah-ha! M3! unguard"
but if there is a c550 i'll def get one
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,428
Likes: 2
SL65, E55T, Pending S65
This was a topic over at the AMG Private Lounge in the Chat session on December 13th with AMG Product Management.
There will be a C63.
www.mercedes-amg.com/privatelounge
There will be a C63.
www.mercedes-amg.com/privatelounge
SPONSOR
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,909
Likes: 130
From: Houston
C63S
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 329
Likes: 1
e55
I think it's a mistake to think that "higher" means faster. The M3 is always faster than the M5, and it's not considered an unusual situation. Cadillac's smallest car (CTS-V) is its fastest, Audi's RS4 is its smallest 4 door sedan in the US, and its fastest.
"Higher" means bigger, and bigger means heavier. People don't buy an "S" class because it can outrun a "C" class. They buy it because it has seat massage and acres of butter-soft leather.
The "C" class should be designed to compete with the M3 and RS4, and not to make the "E" and "S" classes look good.
"Higher" means bigger, and bigger means heavier. People don't buy an "S" class because it can outrun a "C" class. They buy it because it has seat massage and acres of butter-soft leather.
The "C" class should be designed to compete with the M3 and RS4, and not to make the "E" and "S" classes look good.
yes but they also weight down the M3 by 100+ pounds on purpose so it wouldn't be faster than the M5, infact its supposed to be slower technically but even with BMWs political BS it still managed to be a big faster. Higher is "supposed" to be faster based on german manufacturers logic, which makes sense, u pay more it should be faster. Yes it SHOULD (key word) be designed to compete with the others, but not at the expense of robbing sales from its flagship models. hence why M3 keeps getting heavier and heavier (b/c the higher models keep getting heavier and heavier). I hate how politics has to get in the way of making good cars but as with anything in life... theres always politics
Edit: it says in the video that it would be tamed down to 400-420 HP... that makes ALOT more sense. if so then yes i could see C63 coming into production... now... as to HOW they will "tame" it down... who knows, if its simple bolt on stuff then the after market is gonna go nuts with that car lol.
Last edited by E55 PWR; Jan 2, 2007 at 07:46 PM.
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 269
Likes: 0
From: Henderson, NV
Alabaster White C230K Grey Int. and 2003 C32 pewter/charcoal gray
If you guys look at this post:
https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c55-amg-w203/176190-new-pre-owned-amgs-mbln-january-2007-a.html
w204 AMG is not coming till 2009.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c55-amg-w203/176190-new-pre-owned-amgs-mbln-january-2007-a.html
w204 AMG is not coming till 2009.
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
yes, a c63 will beat the e92 m3, but we have to remember the m3 can go around a bend, and it is naturaly asperated. (no blower/turbos) only if a amg could handle like a m3; this is the only thing benz lacks
pure engine power. but non the less amg will take over a m3 on the freeways 
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 295
Likes: 53
From: Reno, NV
2015 C63 AMG S Edition 1, 2021 GLS63, 2020 McLaren 600LT Spider
I have more to report.
The comment above is correct that the C63 will be available as a 2009 model and it is anticipated to be rated at 475 horsepower. This was confirmed by my dealer who just returned from an MB meeting.
The comment above is correct that the C63 will be available as a 2009 model and it is anticipated to be rated at 475 horsepower. This was confirmed by my dealer who just returned from an MB meeting.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,240
Likes: 5
From: New Jersey
E550 4MATIC
