This will probably outrun a C32/55 from the factory
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This will probably outrun a C32/55 from the factory
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Outrun doubtful.. Keep up, I'm sure..
I have a 335i.. My c32 was definitely faster stock until I chipped the 335. I don't think the 200 lbs will make that big of a difference. Now with couple of cheap mods..
I have a 335i.. My c32 was definitely faster stock until I chipped the 335. I don't think the 200 lbs will make that big of a difference. Now with couple of cheap mods..
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What version software are you running on the 335? How do you think you C32 with a pulley would fair to your 335 with software? There are some guys on the bimmer board with the procede software that have gotten huge gains just by adding it.
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This is the next big track car. A few local tuners I have talked with about the 1 series say it will dominate the track.
One local tuner said is uses the same turbo as the 335 and the same ECU. Now imagine that puppy with 375Whp.
One local tuner said is uses the same turbo as the 335 and the same ECU. Now imagine that puppy with 375Whp.
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the 135i will have the exact same engine as the 335i. with the twin turbos. smaller, lighter, more agile, good weight balance = death on the track.
its pretty much the modern version of the old m3
its pretty much the modern version of the old m3
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135 is among my fav cars that are going to be coming out. When I need to replace the 32, I will pick one up... then sell that when the 63 prices go down.
Overall I am in love with the 135, cant wait to see tuners who get this car to stomp the new M3. The m3 is so maxed out and this car has so much potential... really cant wait for whats to come.
Overall I am in love with the 135, cant wait to see tuners who get this car to stomp the new M3. The m3 is so maxed out and this car has so much potential... really cant wait for whats to come.
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02 C32 AMG
i believe this car, 200 lbs lighter than the 335i, will certainly keep up with a stock C32. not a modded one though. the mods for these motors are popping up a lot now. in fact, i just found a mod for them called the 'Juice Box" which has different settings. The stage II version costs 389 and bumps up hp and tq a lot! website has dynos and says avg gains are 35-45 whp and 45-60 wtorque. boost raised from 8 to 9.75 psi. i've been a member of several bmw forums now for a couple of months and apparently, a lot of the 335i's are using this setup as it has very similar results to the Vishnu/Xede/AA tunes/chips. here is the link:
http://www.bmwjuice.com/
a matter of fact, i believe the guy who made this product has the fastest 335i on the stock turbos right now. i believe he ran a 12.4 at 112 with his kit and radials.
http://www.bmwjuice.com/
a matter of fact, i believe the guy who made this product has the fastest 335i on the stock turbos right now. i believe he ran a 12.4 at 112 with his kit and radials.
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This is a great motor but there are some issues that need to be fixed before you can track the car regularly.
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last i read it was only 100 lbs lighter than the 335i.
edit- just saw the weight on flyer- is this dry or kerb??
edit- just saw the weight on flyer- is this dry or kerb??
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Some comments:
I have the AA Xede.. I believe a C32 with pulleys would be about equal to a 335i chipped. The new Procede is pumping out a few more horses that me though..
Cyncarvin there is a remedy to the head soak problem.. There is an intercooler swap that will completely eliminate the problem. Of course it's not cheap.. but if you are going to track your car what's an extra $1000? LOL I have never even come close to heat issues, but I don't track my car either.
For the record I think the 135 is kinda ugly, but seems like an interesting new model. I am also not very fond of the new M3.. but hey, at least they are putting our a 4 door model again! Regardless, I am still planning on the C63..
I have the AA Xede.. I believe a C32 with pulleys would be about equal to a 335i chipped. The new Procede is pumping out a few more horses that me though..
Cyncarvin there is a remedy to the head soak problem.. There is an intercooler swap that will completely eliminate the problem. Of course it's not cheap.. but if you are going to track your car what's an extra $1000? LOL I have never even come close to heat issues, but I don't track my car either.
For the record I think the 135 is kinda ugly, but seems like an interesting new model. I am also not very fond of the new M3.. but hey, at least they are putting our a 4 door model again! Regardless, I am still planning on the C63..
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Before it is a track car you need to address cooling issues. Even the cars with oil coolers are shutting down when driven hard. I am doing some testing on a 335i soon and we have a good idea that these cars are all shutting down for a reason no one has thought about. Oil temps look fine in accordance with BMW factory specs.
This is a great motor but there are some issues that need to be fixed before you can track the car regularly.
This is a great motor but there are some issues that need to be fixed before you can track the car regularly.
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Something is just wrong with it...from some angels it's alright.
My dad really wants one "to throw around everyday"
I think I'd rather have a e46 M3 over the new M3, 335i, or this.
My dad really wants one "to throw around everyday"
I think I'd rather have a e46 M3 over the new M3, 335i, or this.
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Before it is a track car you need to address cooling issues. Even the cars with oil coolers are shutting down when driven hard. I am doing some testing on a 335i soon and we have a good idea that these cars are all shutting down for a reason no one has thought about. Oil temps look fine in accordance with BMW factory specs.
This is a great motor but there are some issues that need to be fixed before you can track the car regularly.
This is a great motor but there are some issues that need to be fixed before you can track the car regularly.
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FWIW.. The AA FMIC will completely eliminate heat soak.. and give you more power..
http://activeautowerke.com/turbo/Int...92335/main.php
http://activeautowerke.com/turbo/Int...92335/main.php
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for a daily driver.. is perfect.
piggy back,
FMIC
and 2nd cat deletes
and bingo!!!
I like the E92 coupe.. I realldy do... but what I really like the most is the 3L TT engine and the transmission.
Put that engine on a Dodge Neon..and I would still buy one.
If I wanted looks and power.. I would buy an Audi S5.
so its official... 200lbs and depend what options you get.. it could be more or less.
I'm still sold on the C63... but if the budget is tight.. 135 and debage and add the mods listed above.
13.00 / 110 traps.. on street tires and great MPG!!!
piggy back,
FMIC
and 2nd cat deletes
and bingo!!!
I like the E92 coupe.. I realldy do... but what I really like the most is the 3L TT engine and the transmission.
Put that engine on a Dodge Neon..and I would still buy one.
If I wanted looks and power.. I would buy an Audi S5.
so its official... 200lbs and depend what options you get.. it could be more or less.
I'm still sold on the C63... but if the budget is tight.. 135 and debage and add the mods listed above.
13.00 / 110 traps.. on street tires and great MPG!!!
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135 is among my fav cars that are going to be coming out. When I need to replace the 32, I will pick one up... then sell that when the 63 prices go down.
Overall I am in love with the 135, cant wait to see tuners who get this car to stomp the new M3. The m3 is so maxed out and this car has so much potential... really cant wait for whats to come.
Overall I am in love with the 135, cant wait to see tuners who get this car to stomp the new M3. The m3 is so maxed out and this car has so much potential... really cant wait for whats to come.
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for a daily driver.. is perfect.
piggy back,
FMIC
and 2nd cat deletes
and bingo!!!
I like the E92 coupe.. I realldy do... but what I really like the most is the 3L TT engine and the transmission.
Put that engine on a Dodge Neon..and I would still buy one.
If I wanted looks and power.. I would buy an Audi S5.
so its official... 200lbs and depend what options you get.. it could be more or less.
I'm still sold on the C63... but if the budget is tight.. 135 and debage and add the mods listed above.
13.00 / 110 traps.. on street tires and great MPG!!!
piggy back,
FMIC
and 2nd cat deletes
and bingo!!!
I like the E92 coupe.. I realldy do... but what I really like the most is the 3L TT engine and the transmission.
Put that engine on a Dodge Neon..and I would still buy one.
If I wanted looks and power.. I would buy an Audi S5.
so its official... 200lbs and depend what options you get.. it could be more or less.
I'm still sold on the C63... but if the budget is tight.. 135 and debage and add the mods listed above.
13.00 / 110 traps.. on street tires and great MPG!!!
