carbon fiber Driveshaft
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HPF E46 M3 Turbo, LET C32 AMG
the first page of this was painful to read. all these NASCAR internet engineers....
My lowly A4 comes with a CF driveshaft stock. theyre more common these days...
My lowly A4 comes with a CF driveshaft stock. theyre more common these days...
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Saving 5 lbs off of drivetrain parts will have a bigger affect on acceleration than removing 50 lbs off of the car. Losing 10 lbs off a flywheel will do MUCH more than losing 100 off of the car.
I once swapped out my pistons for forged aluminum units and my stock cams for billet cams. i retained my dual mass FW. the difference in rev speed to redline was amazing. Inertia is the issue here. saving 7 lbs a wheel, for example, is great!!! saving unsprung weight is the best place to look for weight savings.
I once swapped out my pistons for forged aluminum units and my stock cams for billet cams. i retained my dual mass FW. the difference in rev speed to redline was amazing. Inertia is the issue here. saving 7 lbs a wheel, for example, is great!!! saving unsprung weight is the best place to look for weight savings.
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Saving 5 lbs off of drivetrain parts will have a bigger affect on acceleration than removing 50 lbs off of the car. Losing 10 lbs off a flywheel will do MUCH more than losing 100 off of the car.
I once swapped out my pistons for forged aluminum units and my stock cams for billet cams. i retained my dual mass FW. the difference in rev speed to redline was amazing. Inertia is the issue here. saving 7 lbs a wheel, for example, is great!!! saving unsprung weight is the best place to look for weight savings.
I once swapped out my pistons for forged aluminum units and my stock cams for billet cams. i retained my dual mass FW. the difference in rev speed to redline was amazing. Inertia is the issue here. saving 7 lbs a wheel, for example, is great!!! saving unsprung weight is the best place to look for weight savings.
If you remove 10lbs from the inner edge of the flywheel it is not nearly as useful as shaving 10lbs from the outer edge.
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There's absolutely no objective evidence that the CF driveshaft (which we are beating a dead horse here since it'll never happen) will make a significant difference to a C32/55. Where you're talking hundreths of a second, perhaps thousands, it may in a top fuel car , BUT for a daily driver, doubtful. This is another thread that won't die and will go nowhere because of 1. Cost and 2. lack of interest. I don't disagree with the flywheel argument, but here we're talking a driveshaft and you're going to save what, 10 LBS?? Wouldn't you be better off saving it on the U Joints??
To quote: "Many racers experience a half a tenth increase in performance just by going with a carbon fiber driveshaft." (and these driveshafts are thousands $$$)
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HPF E46 M3 Turbo, LET C32 AMG
Agreed. this thread is a big waste of time. It wont happen, and if it did, it would be exceedingly expensive and would have very little impact by itself. basically it would be a complete waste of money...For a full on track car, then yes, it would be beneficial to the whole package. but who really has a dedicated w203 c-class track sedan.....
/end thread.
/end thread.
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SL55 AMG, 2004, Killer Chiller, Weistec 3L S/C, Lt Headers, Coils, Tune, etc.
I’m also sure this is untrue. ‘The more TQ (torque?) a car has the faster it spins’?
Carbon fiber for a driveshaft is bad! The driveshaft spins VERY fast. The more TQ a car has the faster it will spin....
Think about it...if NASCAR still uses steel driveshafts than this is the best to use. The only other safe material for a driveshaft is aluminum.
A Carbon Fiber driveshaft may be ok for normal use on a small car like mine, but not on a high performance Benz...
If you don't believe me try it, I bet it won't last 6 months unless you drive around like a grandma.
I took a class at NASCAR Tech about drivelines and transmissions, and seen pictures and heard stories about the CF shafts.
Like I said before, Aluminum is what you want.
Think about it...if NASCAR still uses steel driveshafts than this is the best to use. The only other safe material for a driveshaft is aluminum.
A Carbon Fiber driveshaft may be ok for normal use on a small car like mine, but not on a high performance Benz...
If you don't believe me try it, I bet it won't last 6 months unless you drive around like a grandma.
I took a class at NASCAR Tech about drivelines and transmissions, and seen pictures and heard stories about the CF shafts.
Like I said before, Aluminum is what you want.
I would imagine if they are made for high performance cars they will be tested and verified safe for our cars. I ride a carbon fibre MTB, and regularly case the downtube- rock strikes, tree stumps, the lot. Not a dent. And not the “shatters to millions of pieces” scenario all the people who can’t afford CF will tell you will happen the minute you tap it with a pencil. It’s wonder stuff.
