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Lenin 04-17-2011 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by 320 dreamer (Post 4629957)
lets set the record straight. i have never put down the c32. simply stated the facts. the slk32 and the srt-6 is faster. plain and simple. the records show it.

There was never a question regarding this. No need to set any records straight here.


Originally Posted by 320 dreamer (Post 4629957)
you didn't like it when i said the slk32 would destroy a c32. considering the top 4 times of the slk32 and the top 20 times of the srt-6 are ALL FASTER than the very fastest c32 i would call it destroy. you may not like it but its the published and proven facts.

Yes, I didn't like your "destroy" comment and it was only related to slk32. Not sure why you are bringing in the SRT-6 into this. Also the top 4 times for the SLK32 only equate to 2 cars. That is not "destroy". Your twisting of the facts only shows disrespect to the C32.


Originally Posted by 320 dreamer (Post 4629957)
you asked for consistency. you have 4 cars running 11.7 or less. thats consistent. mr photoman with a c3 tune and meth runs consistant 11.7's . he has the slips to prove it.
what you are saying above is that if you aren't running a 11.5 it isn't a mid 11. so a 11.6 isn't mid 11? or a 11.4? with 2 cars running 11.3 or better and 2 cars running 11.7 i would call that a mid 11 consistently. you don't.

I already posted earlier regarding your questionable analysis on this subject. But if that is not enough, here is what someone else that actually owns a SRT-6 said.

Originally Posted by oledoc2u (Post 4629498)
Now, don't you guys get all worked up about the step child of MB/Chrysler. They run low 13's stock, mid 12's with a cold air intake, low 12's with a pulley, and will break the 11's with the right tune and tires. Mid 11's are not consistant yet, but a few are getting there. The rest will follow in do time. My coupe weighs in at 3300lbs/ the roadster is 3450....hope this helps clear it up a little....



Originally Posted by 320 dreamer (Post 4629957)
when i referred to getting your ride faster i was referring to the c32 in general but if you want specifics, look at your sig. you have every mod possible from lsd to the largest pulley headers to tunes and so on. yet the best you can manage is a 12.4? i think that speaks volumes as to the ability of the c32 vs the other amg's with the same driveline. see you at timmayfest!

BTW, the 181mm pulley is not the largest pulley. And what have you done with your former SLK32? As a member from the E55 forum says " run your car, not your mouth".

silverjimm 04-17-2011 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Lenin (Post 4630004)

BTW, the 181mm pulley is not the largest pulley. And what have you done with your former SLK32? As a member from the E55 forum says " run your car, not your mouth".

He knows the 181 isnt the largest pulley and Steve isnt shy,he runs his 32 :zoom:

ddtham 04-17-2011 05:52 PM

I could've sworn that Jake (loungn14) mentioned about his old C32 ran high 11's before from one of his posts and that he was going to share the timeslips. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was in of the older threads.

oledoc2u 04-17-2011 08:47 PM

I have seen Jake's old car first hand. It was hardly stock, but would put down the 11's. Jake would have to answer those questions though. Eurocharge is helping us all go faster, quicker with the same drive trane platforms. I like the slk's and will own one someday. Just about had a C for my wife until the deal fell through. The 2 XF's I own and play with, have made me repect AMG and I was already a fan of MB quality. We all share similar tastes which ever way we go. And I agree, we should be after the ricers, and those old "muscle cars" that I use to like....lol Talk to ya all later...hopefully at a "test and tune" somewhere...

tighed1 04-18-2011 01:17 AM


Originally Posted by oledoc2u (Post 4630280)
The 2 XF's I own and play with, have made me repect AMG and I was already a fan of MB quality. We all share similar tastes which ever way we go. And I agree, we should be after the ricers, and those old "muscle cars" that I use to like....lol Talk to ya all later...hopefully at a "test and tune" somewhere...

Also a 2-fer XF owner (SRTs). Bought a coupe and HAD to get a roadster. Have owned a zillion cars and these are the best I have ever owned. Sold 5 of my muscle cars as I have lost interest in them due to the XFs.
LOVE the cars and someday hope to own a "real" Mercedes.

BTW Ran 12.5 spinning through 1st & 2nd in my SRT6 coupe with a C3 pulley.
Have a 192mm pulley (the biggest?) on my roadster.

:zoom:

gt4awd 05-08-2011 04:53 PM

I helped him install the needswings single CAI. Everything went good there. The supercharger is a lot more noticeable. The C32 still pulls a little on his SRT-6 even after intake. I'll post up a photograph later.

c32used 05-09-2011 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by jturkel (Post 4629421)
also much more space in their engine bay. allows for a much better flowing intake setup (see Needswings Dual Cold Air Intake) and quite larger intake manis.

that's in addition to less weight

:y

gt4awd 05-19-2011 08:16 PM

He now has Eurocharged Stage 2 ECU, CAI, ISO, and Supercooler... We got some runs in. C32 might have a slight pull still. Overall about dead even. I'm running as low as 13.4 at the track. If I can get traction better off the line maybe hit into 12.9's or 13 flat at 5500ft.

Kreuzfeuer 05-20-2011 12:58 AM


Originally Posted by gt4awd (Post 4681015)
He now has Eurocharged Stage 2 ECU, CAI, ISO, and Supercooler... We got some runs in. C32 might have a slight pull still. Overall about dead even. I'm running as low as 13.4 at the track. If I can get traction better off the line maybe hit into 12.9's or 13 flat at 5500ft.

I'm confused... the SRT owner has all of that, and STILL only runs 13's? :eek:

Does the altitude really kill power that badly?

Most stock SRTs are in the low 13's, and some high 12 factory freaks have been noted.

gt4awd 05-20-2011 02:18 AM


Does the altitude really kill power that badly?
Yes... Not to mention I have 120k miles, and he has less than 40k on the clock. Of course I'm still impressed he can be dead even with me off those mods no pulley at all. Let's not forget I have the 185MM and all supporting modifications... :)

gt4awd 05-20-2011 03:52 AM

SRT-6 owner reports feeling the extra power to weight on my C32... :) He might see this, and I feel kind of bad mentioning, but it's a good laugh. First time driving my C32 the SRT-6 owner gets an 88MPH in 60MPH ticket... Thanks for driving that night man! :P

mrobinso 05-20-2011 10:03 AM

I know I am jumping into the fray a bit late here, but as a former Limited Crossfire owner myself (non-SRT), I have to just comment on the surprise expressed on the Crossfire's weight. Why oh why Chrysler/MB did you decide to make the SLK/Crossfire so heavy? With Limited 225hp MB Spec 3.2L V-6, the car was painfully sluggish at low speeds under all of that 3200 pounds, even with the 6-speed manual that my car had. Interestingly enough, the Crossfire pulls extremely strongly from 60-90 mph (power torque band weighted on the high-end) versus my C55, which has amazing grunt on the low-end and from a dig, but at highway speeds the C55 is out of its power band and you don't get the "pick-me up" I felt with the Crossfire.

Newzchspy 05-20-2011 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Lenin (Post 4629083)
Here we go again. Mid 11's as in 11.5? And consistency as in more than one car? Show me.

+1, the quickest/fastest of them is in the high 11s and not consistently (I am discounting the E55 conversions that have been done since those are low 11s/high 10s) ) . It would be more accurate to say low 12s with the SRT-6. Very highly modified ones run high 11s. They are ONLY quicker than the C32 IMHO because of the 1. Engine bay room to work with for mods and 2. About 300 lbs lighter than our sedans too. At Morrocco, I'd often see them doing 12XX-12.50 at about 112-114 at best. Engines are identical. Its the mods that make the difference. Stock SRTS are just a lil quicker than the stock C32s and its mostly trap speed advantage. I am not discounting them at all because they are monsters when modded...............

Newzchspy 05-20-2011 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by mrobinso (Post 4681736)
I know I am jumping into the fray a bit late here, but as a former Limited Crossfire owner myself (non-SRT), I have to just comment on the surprise expressed on the Crossfire's weight. Why oh why Chrysler/MB did you decide to make the SLK/Crossfire so heavy? With Limited 225hp MB Spec 3.2L V-6, the car was painfully sluggish at low speeds under all of that 3200 pounds, even with the 6-speed manual that my car had. Interestingly enough, the Crossfire pulls extremely strongly from 60-90 mph (power torque band weighted on the high-end) versus my C55, which has amazing grunt on the low-end and from a dig, but at highway speeds the C55 is out of its power band and you don't get the "pick-me up" I felt with the Crossfire.




My Kleemann is the opposite. Could be due to the SC, BUT the low end grunt is NOT what the C32 is, BUT on a roll-on, the things a monster?? My C32 runs out of breath before the C55 does.

gt4awd 05-22-2011 02:15 PM

Results from dragway last night. SRT-6 was able to pull off a 13.5 even. 13.6 was my best run last night. However, I did run a 13.45 few trips back.

Grip Grip 07-07-2011 10:11 PM

I need to get over here more often. :)





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tom2112 07-24-2011 03:07 PM

Gee, I think there's more Crossfire owner posts in this thread than MB owners. LOL

I had to get in on the action... a little late though.
Both the main arguments in this thread are right in their own ways. Yeah, modified Crossfire SRT-6's can run high to mid 11's consistently. But there are less than 10 of them doing it. So your likelihood of running into one is pretty slim. How do I know? Well, I keep track, because I'm closing in on them! :eek:

As for the modded SRT-6 that is running mid-13's, that's either altitude, bad DA, or bad driving. A stock SRT-6 on street tires will run a 13.0 consistently, with good DA and a good driver.

Then there's me: modded SRT-6, decent DA, and the best I can get is 12.5. So I must not be very good at it! :rolf:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chrysler-Cr...lip-18717.html

gt4awd 07-24-2011 07:22 PM

He bought 178MM and custom needswings manifolds... Not installed yet. :)

320 dreamer 07-24-2011 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by gt4awd (Post 4768078)
He bought 178MM and custom needswings manifolds... Not installed yet. :)

is he tuned? if he bought robs big manis they flow 970 cfm. tune is needed for this mod. did he get them from rob or another xfire member?

Newzchspy 07-25-2011 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by tom2112 (Post 4767836)
Gee, I think there's more Crossfire owner posts in this thread than MB owners. LOL

I had to get in on the action... a little late though.
Both the main arguments in this thread are right in their own ways. Yeah, modified Crossfire SRT-6's can run high to mid 11's consistently. But there are less than 10 of them doing it. So your likelihood of running into one is pretty slim. How do I know? Well, I keep track, because I'm closing in on them! :eek:

As for the modded SRT-6 that is running mid-13's, that's either altitude, bad DA, or bad driving. A stock SRT-6 on street tires will run a 13.0 consistently, with good DA and a good driver.

Then there's me: modded SRT-6, decent DA, and the best I can get is 12.5. So I must not be very good at it! :rolf:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chrysler-Cr...lip-18717.html


BTW, what are your engine mods??? You running drag radials as well??

320 dreamer 07-25-2011 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Newzchspy (Post 4768882)
BTW, what are your engine mods??? You running drag radials as well??

his mods are listed on the dragtimes link

cjw 07-25-2011 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by tom2112 (Post 4767836)
Gee, I think there's more Crossfire owner posts in this thread than MB owners. LOL

I had to get in on the action... a little late though.
Both the main arguments in this thread are right in their own ways. Yeah, modified Crossfire SRT-6's can run high to mid 11's consistently. But there are less than 10 of them doing it. So your likelihood of running into one is pretty slim. How do I know? Well, I keep track, because I'm closing in on them! :eek:

As for the modded SRT-6 that is running mid-13's, that's either altitude, bad DA, or bad driving. A stock SRT-6 on street tires will run a 13.0 consistently, with good DA and a good driver.

Then there's me: modded SRT-6, decent DA, and the best I can get is 12.5. So I must not be very good at it! :rolf:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chrysler-Cr...lip-18717.html

Are you tuned? Reason I ask is my father has just Code 3 pulley and Tune on Ps2's ran a 12.2, weather was about 70* but you should be close to that if its cool enough. Stock I ran a 13.17 in 90* weather hoping to cool off soon too see a good stock time, then trying to find me a Code 3 and Eurocharged tune plus cooling mods, trying for high 11's on Et streets... btw any more news on Eurocharged supercharger pulley?


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