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raf12690 10-08-2013 06:21 PM

02 vs 03 vs 04
 
I know some threads have been made and I've read them, but I just wanted to ask a few things.

My 03 c32 is totaled (#$%#), and I'm looking to buy another at the moment.

First beside the plaque and bad radiator, I had read some things about the cams being different in the 02. Has this been proven or any new information about this? Any other drawbacks?

Also what is different on the 04 models? I had read that the 03's tended to do better in dyne's for some reason. Any info would be greatly appreciated!

My tires were worn and hydroplaned bad on the turnpike.....was going to get Michelin pilot super sports the following week ;( Loved that Friggin car! RIP.

RenC55AMG 10-08-2013 06:54 PM

Glad you're ok man, cars are replaceable.

Gramma_Benz 10-08-2013 07:23 PM

I'd say avoid the 02 if at all possible.

Lenin 10-08-2013 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Gramma_Benz (Post 5804162)
I'd say avoid the 02 if at all possible.

+1. The cams are a confirmed issue. Just check the EPC. Also the 2002 had different TCU programming where the Speedshift works differently.

pointman 10-08-2013 11:30 PM

04, aero on wiper. metal pedals.


Also, all model years may have those. Point? Search has all the answers you seek.

moosejaw 10-09-2013 10:04 AM

Ive seen my freinds 02 (100k mi+) dyno 10hp higher stock than my old 04 (36k miles) when it was stock back to back. That being said the 04s are the best since they have the least production volume (under 500 if I recall). Black is even rarer at 281. 02 had frosty xenons as an option and 03's and up went to bixenon and changed radiators. The 03s and up should have the AUX prewired. The 02 and 03s advantage is that tectite gray and orion blue were available as a $1400 option and they are rare colors. TCU programming is a mute point as you can get a TCU tune from EC that gives you manual mode which is awesome.

The expert on C32s is FrankW. He knows all the options and one of two guys (other is BenzoAMGpower) I know who had his since new

Lenin 10-09-2013 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by moosejaw (Post 5804635)
Ive seen my freinds 02 (100k mi+) dyno 10hp higher stock than my old 04 (36k miles) when it was stock back to back. That being said the 04s are the best since they have the least production volume (under 500 if I recall). Black is even rarer at 281. 02 had frosty xenons as an option and 03's and up went to bixenon and changed radiators. The 03s and up should have the AUX prewired. The 02 and 03s advantage is that tectite gray and orion blue were available as a $1400 option and they are rare colors. TCU programming is a mute point as you can get a TCU tune from EC that gives you manual mode which is awesome.

The expert on C32s is FrankW. He knows all the options and one of two guys (other is BenzoAMGpower) I know who had his since new

My 02 has AUX prewired. TCU can be reprogrammed but using your logic the headlights can be swapped too. :nix: And you can add me to the list of original owners.

pointman 10-09-2013 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by moosejaw (Post 5804635)
Ive seen my freinds 02 (100k mi+) dyno 10hp higher stock than my old 04 (36k miles) when it was stock back to back. That being said the 04s are the best since they have the least production volume (under 500 if I recall). Black is even rarer at 281. 02 had frosty xenons as an option and 03's and up went to bixenon and changed radiators. The 03s and up should have the AUX prewired. The 02 and 03s advantage is that tectite gray and orion blue were available as a $1400 option and they are rare colors. TCU programming is a mute point as you can get a TCU tune from EC that gives you manual mode which is awesome.

The expert on C32s is FrankW. He knows all the options and one of two guys (other is BenzoAMGpower) I know who had his since new

original owner, right here.

Gramma_Benz 10-09-2013 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by Lenin (Post 5804746)
My 02 has AUX prewired.

Mine too

Enigma94 10-09-2013 03:40 PM

My 04 doesnt have the aux pre-wired...

firstshadow 10-09-2013 03:45 PM

I think the aux comes with the bose system, but I could be wrong.

moosejaw 10-09-2013 04:07 PM

Mine was pre-wired but i know of others who had to get the kit and wire it in themselves
There are a lot of original owners here wow.
So now i know 5.

moosejaw 10-09-2013 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Lenin (Post 5804746)
My 02 has AUX prewired. TCU can be reprogrammed but using your logic the headlights can be swapped too. :nix: And you can add me to the list of original owners.

The headlights can be swapped but you wont have the autolevelling feature if you are coming from a halogen set. So you will have a plug left over. I remember the xenon frostys having autolevelling when i swapped mine out on my C230.

My C32 had bixenons swapped in by the previous owner. I didnt have the washer nozzles.

pointman 10-09-2013 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by Enigma94 (Post 5804970)
My 04 doesnt have the aux pre-wired...

Mine does.

pointman 10-09-2013 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by moosejaw (Post 5805014)
There are a lot of original owners here wow.
So now i know 5.

lol. Who else?

raf12690 10-09-2013 05:48 PM

Just missed out on a beauty 03 with 36k miles, Dang! It had the bixenons as well...crap was going to offer 15k (17.3k list).

Going to settle for an 03 in great condition w/ 70k miles for 12kish (14k list).

Both were silver. To be honest as weird as it is I like the c32 in silver the most. Maybe it grew on me.

For some reason I didn't want one with the navi screen setup. Don't like the looks and I figure the navigation is old. I use my phone for that anyways.

Luckily damage was just in the rear so engine was fine. I kept the NW DCAI and 61mm pulley, but I will have to buy another H/E with iso, bc I didn't have the stock IC (no space for it during my move from Milwaukee). Hopefully I can get it from the yard.

Also you think Eurocharged will allow me to use my previous tunes on the new car? I know they are matched to my previous VIN.

raf12690 10-09-2013 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by RenC55AMG (Post 5804146)
Glad you're ok man, cars are replaceable.

Thanks man, not a scratch on me! It was a sad day that's for sure.

raf12690 10-09-2013 05:53 PM

Thanks for all the replies guys! Only one of the 02's had the radiator updated on car fax. Was actually a nice one. White with black and red interior. Just read a lot about the problem with the cams. Plus he took off the badge on the side of the car. You have to rep the v6 kompressor! In the end I think sticking w/ the 03/04 is safest.

Newzchspy 10-11-2013 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by raf12690 (Post 5805167)
Thanks for all the replies guys! Only one of the 02's had the radiator updated on car fax. Was actually a nice one. White with black and red interior. Just read a lot about the problem with the cams. Plus he took off the badge on the side of the car. You have to rep the v6 kompressor! In the end I think sticking w/ the 03/04 is safest.

So what did you do??? I've got a black 04 with 45 K original ; All options except for Comand/Navi and all EC mods & Tune except for TCU that ran as fast as yours?? (see my sig) Make me an offer :):) I am nearby too!!

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