Question on H&R coilover
05-27-2004, 05:56 PM
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If you want dampening adjustments on your coilovers get Bilstien PSS9 coils, Carlsson RS Coils also uses the same system. I heard the quality and comfort is superior over H&R.
I need to save up myself to get some!
I need to save up myself to get some!
05-28-2004, 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by bensitto
I heard the quality and comfort is superior over H&R.
I heard the quality and comfort is superior over H&R.
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05-29-2004, 12:05 PM
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I also have to agree with Evosport here. Both companies make a quality products. As for comfort, H&R will win that round. The RS/PSS-9 is manufactured for a different purpose. Even on its softest settings, it is a harsher ride than the H&R. Go drive an EVO at slow speeds to get an idea. Want to improve the looks and handling of your car around town, buy the H&R. Want to explore the limits of the car's handling capabilities, buy the RS/PSS-9. The KW should be somewhere inbetween.
The Carlsson excells at high speed and on smoother roads. At the track, 7 and 8 were way too soft. The firmer the setting, the better in this venue, as 2 and 2 provided the best lap times, knocking off an additional 1.5 seconds over the softer settings.
The Carlsson excells at high speed and on smoother roads. At the track, 7 and 8 were way too soft. The firmer the setting, the better in this venue, as 2 and 2 provided the best lap times, knocking off an additional 1.5 seconds over the softer settings.
05-29-2004, 09:30 PM
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btw, what's ur opinions on kw? i know they have that "advertised" better anti-corrosion tubing... but i have a m-coupe friend who recommended staying away from them, as many a bmw owners have had blown shocks...
05-29-2004, 10:09 PM
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KW's marketing advantage is within the wet weather states/countries where abusive water corrosion and road salts can eat away at traditional alloys, were as KW uses stainless steel on its strut bodies. As long as you keep the threads oiled periodically, you have a better chance at adjusting the spring perches years later. Most people once they set their desired ride height will never adjust them again. So if the adjustable collars got stuck, it really would not matter if you didn't want to adjust them.
Why were the shocks blown? What were the circumstances? I would like to read some of those links to keep informed. Do you have any? I know of someone who recently blew a new H&R coilover strut. I as well have blown my own Bilstein struts on the BMW. It happens every now and then to all manufacturers. One of the members of this forum is running KWV2's but we don't have any detailed accounting of their performance yet. KW makes most of their shocks inhouse now. For a period of time, they would use Koni bodies with their own valved shock inserts to save on manufacturing costs of the bodies.
Why were the shocks blown? What were the circumstances? I would like to read some of those links to keep informed. Do you have any? I know of someone who recently blew a new H&R coilover strut. I as well have blown my own Bilstein struts on the BMW. It happens every now and then to all manufacturers. One of the members of this forum is running KWV2's but we don't have any detailed accounting of their performance yet. KW makes most of their shocks inhouse now. For a period of time, they would use Koni bodies with their own valved shock inserts to save on manufacturing costs of the bodies.
05-30-2004, 01:47 AM
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ic.. i can't seem to remember or find the thread, but it was the kw v2 for the rear end (which has a separate thread spring perch as the springs and shocks are mounted separately), either the shock was blown or the shock went thru the upper shock mount... can't remember.. it's for volvos btw..
05-30-2004, 01:57 AM
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Ripping through the rear shock tower mounts is common in E36's. So is ripping through the subframe mounting holes, and the front strut shock towers. The demands of high cornering forces coupled with a stiffer suspension weakens these areas. Reinforcements are in order for any high performance driving duty. The same could happen to other cars as well. In your case of the Volvo, I would not claim a defect in the shock itself, but an inherent weakness in the rear mounting location. The independant spring location and its adjustable perch has nothing to do with shock tower failure except the higher spring rate stiffens the overall rear end of the car.
06-01-2004, 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by bensitto
If you want dampening adjustments on your coilovers get Bilstien PSS9 coils, Carlsson RS Coils also uses the same system. I heard the quality and comfort is superior over H&R.
I need to save up myself to get some!
If you want dampening adjustments on your coilovers get Bilstien PSS9 coils, Carlsson RS Coils also uses the same system. I heard the quality and comfort is superior over H&R.
I need to save up myself to get some!
The thing is that H&R doesn't offer the Dampening adjustability. I've never been in a car with H&R coils so I don't know for myself how different the feel is.
