Raced a S55
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Ok here is what I think when I read any races or challenges posts:
1- It never took place: Possible.
2- It did take place:
a- The excuse of the S55AMG was not pushing it: NOT POSSIBLE because give me one good reason for some one to drive 140mph in a 55mph zone if he is not going full throttle.
b- The S55 was going full throttle and the C32 won: POSSIBLE. I can think of million reasons for it to be possible. Rememner the C32 is moded and as some posts he is pushing more than 410bhp and he is running on light wheels which helps on acceleration:
1- The S55 did not floor it with the C32 (POSSIBLE), meaning the C32 got an advantace of early full throttle. Some might predict that the S55 might over take later.
2- There is something wrong with the S55 (POSSIBLE): I can think of boost leak, MAF sensor, bad fuel, obstruction in the pipes, dirty injectors, a car not taken care off... etc.
3- That it was a S55 367bhp N/A V8 (NOT POSSIBLE): If his car is pushing 410bhp I can't see how a N/A S55 can keep it as that close to him as this S55 did.
4- That it was a modded N/A S55 (POSSIBLE): May be it was moded to prodice ~450bhp give or take 15bhp. But then again this makes it very close to the S55 KOMP..
5- That he ran against S55 KOMP that was in a very good condition and the driver floored it in the same time as the C32: DOUBTFUL. Unless he can provide me a video of his car accelerating from 0-120 mph that car beat the video provided by another member which means that he has a VERY FAST CAR.. A car that can out accelerate a Ferrari 360.
In the end I think I will go with: I believe him.
1- It never took place: Possible.
2- It did take place:
a- The excuse of the S55AMG was not pushing it: NOT POSSIBLE because give me one good reason for some one to drive 140mph in a 55mph zone if he is not going full throttle.
b- The S55 was going full throttle and the C32 won: POSSIBLE. I can think of million reasons for it to be possible. Rememner the C32 is moded and as some posts he is pushing more than 410bhp and he is running on light wheels which helps on acceleration:
1- The S55 did not floor it with the C32 (POSSIBLE), meaning the C32 got an advantace of early full throttle. Some might predict that the S55 might over take later.
2- There is something wrong with the S55 (POSSIBLE): I can think of boost leak, MAF sensor, bad fuel, obstruction in the pipes, dirty injectors, a car not taken care off... etc.
3- That it was a S55 367bhp N/A V8 (NOT POSSIBLE): If his car is pushing 410bhp I can't see how a N/A S55 can keep it as that close to him as this S55 did.
4- That it was a modded N/A S55 (POSSIBLE): May be it was moded to prodice ~450bhp give or take 15bhp. But then again this makes it very close to the S55 KOMP..
5- That he ran against S55 KOMP that was in a very good condition and the driver floored it in the same time as the C32: DOUBTFUL. Unless he can provide me a video of his car accelerating from 0-120 mph that car beat the video provided by another member which means that he has a VERY FAST CAR.. A car that can out accelerate a Ferrari 360.
In the end I think I will go with: I believe him.
Last edited by ZAF; 12-25-2004 at 11:59 AM.
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E55, C32, ML320
Originally Posted by Fikse
why is this so complicated??
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#53
Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
Come to think of it i have never seen the time slip from a S55k.....
So anyone care to post one?
I dont see why people can't follow power to weight ratios. It looks like this... 55k owners are scared to think that a C32 could be quick. I have 2 55k's and I had a C32 and guess what I think the C32 could easily keep up with some mods. So let the games begin I say.
I doubt a S55k would trap at 115....seems a tad high for my tastes.
So anyone care to post one?
I dont see why people can't follow power to weight ratios. It looks like this... 55k owners are scared to think that a C32 could be quick. I have 2 55k's and I had a C32 and guess what I think the C32 could easily keep up with some mods. So let the games begin I say.
I doubt a S55k would trap at 115....seems a tad high for my tastes.
Here is one for you, hot stuff, tell ya what, that C32 was not racing S55K--- hte drag time below hte S55k is fro hte non supercharged S55 from 2002 ---that is hte one this dude was "racing" if the "race" ever took place.
Times for S55K
the owner who posted times for the S55k left his E-Mail, why dont ya e-mail him and tell him that he is lying as I think te c32 dude doing in his story. Look what you post you say :
"the C32 could easily keep up with some mods."
i agree with you it could keep up but ot get ahead by 100'. 100' is what makes the story questionable
Last edited by Belmondo; 12-25-2004 at 01:34 PM.
#54
Originally Posted by Vomit
Tell ya what: race one and report back. Until then, keep the lube flowing!
Here is the report, cool dude, now go race one and see if you can come close within 100' of that S55K and report back to us and dont forget to lube your rear because this S will rape you.
S55K times
Last edited by Belmondo; 12-25-2004 at 01:53 PM.
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First off only one person gets to call me "hot stuff" and I sure as heck hope it's not you.
Second your link does not work... so lets see if we can get that working.
Third...Would someone just go buy that used RENNtech C32 off e-bay and go race a S55k? These S55 owners need to get placed back in reality.
If Jon Winter lived a little closer to me I would personally drive over and do a freeway pull against his C32 in my SL55 and prove all this wrong. Trouble is 3000 miles is a LONG way to drive for such a pointless cause.
Each thread has 2 teams on this forum. When the debate is the C32 vs. the S55 it turns into 55k owners vs. C32 owners. When the debate is about the E55 vs. S55 again it's just people defending their cars. If a BMW owner expressed his opinion we best just lock the thread because all the MB owners will just start crying. The reality of this forum is that.... its a big mess of post purchase affirmation because its a big powwow of owners trying to feel good about the 100k the just dropped for a "limited production - mass produced road car" Regardless of the topic...their car is always better, infallible, and faster than anything else. Almost no one is capable of talking about cars without taking it personally. I have a few cars… and believe me I hate things about each one and I have to trouble saying that it's a terrible car in that respect. Heck my E55k has a new feature where the you turn the fan speed to high the whole HVAC system turns off for 10 minutes until it can start thinking again. Or how about about fact that it cant turn for its life (one test shows a Ram SRT-10 pulling a higher g-load than the E55k) People they are just cars… heaps of BOLTS AND ALLOY.
I think it should be noted that if Mr. Winter was pulling ahead at lower speeds the S55 owner likely lifted as the C32 started to pull away. So maybe the S55 lifted EARLIER than the C32 but I be he lifted only after he saw that his was not going to win the pull. Advantage C32.
Regards.
Second your link does not work... so lets see if we can get that working.
Third...Would someone just go buy that used RENNtech C32 off e-bay and go race a S55k? These S55 owners need to get placed back in reality.
If Jon Winter lived a little closer to me I would personally drive over and do a freeway pull against his C32 in my SL55 and prove all this wrong. Trouble is 3000 miles is a LONG way to drive for such a pointless cause.
Each thread has 2 teams on this forum. When the debate is the C32 vs. the S55 it turns into 55k owners vs. C32 owners. When the debate is about the E55 vs. S55 again it's just people defending their cars. If a BMW owner expressed his opinion we best just lock the thread because all the MB owners will just start crying. The reality of this forum is that.... its a big mess of post purchase affirmation because its a big powwow of owners trying to feel good about the 100k the just dropped for a "limited production - mass produced road car" Regardless of the topic...their car is always better, infallible, and faster than anything else. Almost no one is capable of talking about cars without taking it personally. I have a few cars… and believe me I hate things about each one and I have to trouble saying that it's a terrible car in that respect. Heck my E55k has a new feature where the you turn the fan speed to high the whole HVAC system turns off for 10 minutes until it can start thinking again. Or how about about fact that it cant turn for its life (one test shows a Ram SRT-10 pulling a higher g-load than the E55k) People they are just cars… heaps of BOLTS AND ALLOY.
I think it should be noted that if Mr. Winter was pulling ahead at lower speeds the S55 owner likely lifted as the C32 started to pull away. So maybe the S55 lifted EARLIER than the C32 but I be he lifted only after he saw that his was not going to win the pull. Advantage C32.
Regards.
Last edited by CynCarvin32; 12-25-2004 at 02:02 PM.
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The link works just fine, there is obviously a problem with your browser just like there is a problem with this story. Whether there is 2, 3 or 4 "teams" it does not metter. YOu think its true I think its BS, end of story, move on.
Since you a re having all kinds of problems here is address fro you.
Lets see if you will also have problem copying and pasting.
.http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...ag-Racing.html.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...ag-Racing.html
w w w . dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Benz--S55-AMG-Drag-Racing.html
Since you a re having all kinds of problems here is address fro you.
Lets see if you will also have problem copying and pasting.
.http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...ag-Racing.html.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...ag-Racing.html
w w w . dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Benz--S55-AMG-Drag-Racing.html
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God you guys don't read anything! the whole argument is over the new 03'-on up S55
Originally Posted by Fikse
I have personally raced an older S55 in my car a few times..... I won by about 2-3 cars on the highway..... I have run 13.4 @ 105 in my stock C32....
I have also raced a C32 with pulley and chip, carbon fiber hood and who knows what else.... I lost by about 2-3 cars on the highway.... so it makes sense that a modded C32 would pull the older S55 by 6 cars....
I'm not a C32 basher, I have one.... but you all are not being realistic....
the fact is, a C32 with pulley and ECU does NOT pull 115 MPH trap speeds! as you can see nobody is poting timeslips or even saying it can...
how about this.... the CL55, which has the SAME motor as the S55, and is HEAVIER than the S55, pulled 114.5 MPH trap speeds in MOTOR TREND. You can BET the S55 will do at least the same, most likely faster, since it's lighter...
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...slip-3172.html
NOW, anyone with resonable deduction skills, can see that the S55 will pull around 115MPH trap speeds, and for a modifeid C32 to beat this same S55 by 6-10 cars, it would need to be pulling 118+ trap speeds..... and we all know, this is not happening....
why is this so complicated??
I have also raced a C32 with pulley and chip, carbon fiber hood and who knows what else.... I lost by about 2-3 cars on the highway.... so it makes sense that a modded C32 would pull the older S55 by 6 cars....
I'm not a C32 basher, I have one.... but you all are not being realistic....
the fact is, a C32 with pulley and ECU does NOT pull 115 MPH trap speeds! as you can see nobody is poting timeslips or even saying it can...
how about this.... the CL55, which has the SAME motor as the S55, and is HEAVIER than the S55, pulled 114.5 MPH trap speeds in MOTOR TREND. You can BET the S55 will do at least the same, most likely faster, since it's lighter...
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...slip-3172.html
NOW, anyone with resonable deduction skills, can see that the S55 will pull around 115MPH trap speeds, and for a modifeid C32 to beat this same S55 by 6-10 cars, it would need to be pulling 118+ trap speeds..... and we all know, this is not happening....
why is this so complicated??
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The original poster said he beat a brand new 03'-04' S55 w/Supercharger! now you guys have it all mixed up thinking we are arguing the c32 couldn't beat non-aspirated v8 01'-02' version S55, that's not the case.
I and some other members made a joke about it saying "In order for him to beat the S55 by 100' or 6 car lengths it would have had to of been the older version with no Supercharger!!!" We all agreed that wolud be a no contest victory for C32...
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i dont see how the new C32 2003 could beat the s55 2003
is this a joke....and the Tarffic had you otherwise you would have beat him!!!!thats a good one.
is this a joke....and the Tarffic had you otherwise you would have beat him!!!!thats a good one.
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Belmondo: How come CynCarvin is "hot stuff," and I am only "cool dude?" In any case, I am flattered (as I am sure Cyn is)
Is an 11.9/116 quarter a typical result for a stock S55k with a decent driver? I rather doubt it, especially considering that various other posters on this forum report best 1/4 times of 12.5-13.0.
Let's just give Jon the courtesy of confidence, and trust that his recollection is accurate.
Look at it this way, if Jon's C32 is among the fastest (say, 12.5 quarter mile), and the S55 was a slow example (say, 13.0 quarter mile), Jon's outcome is certainly plausible. If you were to run a typical S55 against a typical modded C32, the race (on paper, at least) should be a toss-up. However, not all cars are performing exactly at the median performance figures for the model! I can speak from personal experience (from having raced against several) that C32s are all over the map. Some stock ones give me a pretty good run; others I stomp.
I love the S55, and hope to own one in the next couple of years. In the mean time, I hope to run a supercharged S55 with my C32. If I lose, I will proudly post my story (as I have previously done with other losses to a Z06 and a Cobra with slicks), any you will believe me. If I win, I will proudly post my story, but you (naysayers) will not believe me. Kinda sux, huh?
Anyone in the San Diego area want to run their S55?
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Is an 11.9/116 quarter a typical result for a stock S55k with a decent driver? I rather doubt it, especially considering that various other posters on this forum report best 1/4 times of 12.5-13.0.
Let's just give Jon the courtesy of confidence, and trust that his recollection is accurate.
Look at it this way, if Jon's C32 is among the fastest (say, 12.5 quarter mile), and the S55 was a slow example (say, 13.0 quarter mile), Jon's outcome is certainly plausible. If you were to run a typical S55 against a typical modded C32, the race (on paper, at least) should be a toss-up. However, not all cars are performing exactly at the median performance figures for the model! I can speak from personal experience (from having raced against several) that C32s are all over the map. Some stock ones give me a pretty good run; others I stomp.
I love the S55, and hope to own one in the next couple of years. In the mean time, I hope to run a supercharged S55 with my C32. If I lose, I will proudly post my story (as I have previously done with other losses to a Z06 and a Cobra with slicks), any you will believe me. If I win, I will proudly post my story, but you (naysayers) will not believe me. Kinda sux, huh?
Anyone in the San Diego area want to run their S55?
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