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Motorsport3 04-15-2011 02:26 AM

2000 C43 shifter on 98 C43!!
 
Is it possible to use 2000 C43 shifter on 98 C43?? if it does would it make that auto/manual work as it should??
Anyone knows about this???

I found this in ebay :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Merce...item5639f3ac5a

DRBC43AMG 04-15-2011 04:29 AM

I doubt it will work as the 2000 model (last year production) was a Tiptronic type box, so probably very different from the standard 43 box..

ECTurboGSX 04-15-2011 08:13 AM

It really should just be a matter of electronics. The mechanical components are the same, so you would need that assembly as well as a TCU programmed to match a 2000 MY C43.

C43AMG 04-15-2011 08:32 AM

I was going to do this mod last summer until I realized that the instrument cluster must be changed also ( you need it to display what gear you are in ) so I decided not to.

ECTurboGSX 04-15-2011 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by C43AMG (Post 4626622)
I was going to do this mod last summer until I realized that the instrument cluster must be changed also ( you need it to display what gear you are in ) so I decided not to.

Good point, I hadn't thought of that. I wonder if you could get that stuff out of a wrecked non-AMG MY2000 C class.

Motorsport3 04-15-2011 06:52 PM

Oh, yea I didn't even think about the cluster!! this mod seemed reasonably easy but I guess it would cost at least $1k to do so...

OCKlasse 04-15-2011 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by Motorsport3 (Post 4627637)
Oh, yea I didn't even think about the cluster!! this mod seemed reasonably easy but I guess it would cost at least $1k to do so...

I have a CLK55 AMG cluster with the screen for onboard computer (and tip)...

I believe it might have some fading pixels, but I've never personally used it. There is a company that fixes the pixel issue, and you can save a lot of money :y

AJVec 04-16-2011 01:07 AM

So let me get this straight...all you need to do is change the TCU and shifter assembly and I could have triptronic?? which would also mean hardwired paddle shifters? Because that is the one thing that could change the attitude of the car :naughty:

C43AMG 04-16-2011 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by ECTurboGSX (Post 4627115)
Good point, I hadn't thought of that. I wonder if you could get that stuff out of a wrecked non-AMG MY2000 C class.

I imagine you could....but then you lose the /////AMG lettering on the cluster.

tri-star tech 04-20-2011 01:34 AM

I know for a fact the wiring is completely different. You would have to build a wiring harness for the shifter. The 98 shifter is basically a voltage coded switch that sends different voltages to the trans module to let it know where the selector lever is in. The 2000 shifter is on the CAN network.

503C43 ////AMG 04-21-2011 11:23 PM


Originally Posted by tri-star tech (Post 4634308)
I know for a fact the wiring is completely different. You would have to build a wiring harness for the shifter. The 98 shifter is basically a voltage coded switch that sends different voltages to the trans module to let it know where the selector lever is in. The 2000 shifter is on the CAN network.


this is correct as far as the stock 98-99 C43 shifter, I have taken it apart. I posted pictures of it in another thread. As far as the 2000 model I have no clue...

DuaneC63 04-22-2011 02:23 AM

I think this is one of those "a bridge too far" mods. It's a great idea but it's gunna cost way more than it's worth in the end.

Dieseldan9 01-05-2018 04:38 PM

Mistake sorry

Sulaco 01-05-2018 09:25 PM

Yes, the automatic 722.6 can't even shift fast enough to even justify using it. Even much later models.

I drove a 2006 CLS500 today with paddle shifters and the tiptronic and it was painfully, abysmally, hilariously slow. It's easier and faster to manually select the gear in my 99 C43 (and it's still too slow shifting to bother).

Don't bother with transmission upgrades unless you're fitting a manual, now that the mystery has been solved.

mickey13 01-05-2018 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by Sulaco (Post 7350886)
Yes, the automatic 722.6 can't even shift fast enough to even justify using it. Even much later models.

I drove a 2006 CLS500 today with paddle shifters and the tiptronic and it was painfully, abysmally, hilariously slow. It's easier and faster to manually select the gear in my 99 C43 (and it's still too slow shifting to bother).

Don't bother with transmission upgrades unless you're fitting a manual, now that the mystery has been solved.


Speaking of manuals.... Have you brainstormed anything for the high tq in our cars? I read somewhere or saw a video that some guy said he was going to install a tremec to his Mercedes. Can't remember if he said he was using the original engine or LS. He mentioned something about having a custom housing built so it would fit. Wonder if some European model might have a beefy manual transmission that would fit in our cars.

KJI3jflarryfe93 01-06-2018 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by mickey13 (Post 7350903)
Speaking of manuals.... Have you brainstormed anything for the high tq in our cars? I read somewhere or saw a video that some guy said he was going to install a tremec to his Mercedes. Can't remember if he said he was using the original engine or LS. He mentioned something about having a custom housing built so it would fit. Wonder if some European model might have a beefy manual transmission that would fit in our cars.

find a Getrag from a high end BMW M-series.
with smaller adjustments, an adapter and sum tweaks you could fit a manual to your C43

mickey13 01-08-2018 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 7350995)
find a Getrag from a high end BMW M-series.
with smaller adjustments, an adapter and sum tweaks you could fit a manual to your C43

sounds like a great plan, when are you installing yours?

KJI3jflarryfe93 01-08-2018 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by mickey13 (Post 7352814)
sounds like a great plan, when are you installing yours?

i am NOT getting a manual for mine!

mickey13 01-08-2018 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 7352859)
i am NOT getting a manual for mine!


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...57c586fc63.jpg

PJmak 01-08-2018 06:35 PM

You guys do realize this thread is seven years old right

KJI3jflarryfe93 01-09-2018 06:42 AM

driving a Benz comes with an automatic.
driving a Beemer comes with a manual.

sifu_c63 04-24-2018 05:43 PM

<sorry, tried to post to another thread but the post wierdly ended here, probably user error? as a newb, any guidance on how to delete an unwanted post?!>

ECTurboGSX 04-24-2018 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by sifu_c63 (Post 7438428)
<sorry, tried to post to another thread but the post wierdly ended here, probably user error? as a newb, any guidance on how to delete an unwanted post?!>

Just leave it. No harm, no foul. A moderator would likely have to come in to delete it.


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