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Old 02-01-2019, 09:17 AM
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Just arrived from K Mac the new up dated bush for the W202

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hmm interesting, do you know when they changed to the newer style? not sure which ones i have....
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Because the old was ****, it would slip out of spec. Biggest waste of money in my life, I never spend $400 on something so useless before.
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hmm interesting, do you know when they changed to the newer style? not sure which ones i have....

i was the first to get them
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Because the old was ****, it would slip out of spec. Biggest waste of money in my life, I never spend $400 on something so useless before.

mine never did that but mine came with nord washers
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Because the old was ****, it would slip out of spec. Biggest waste of money in my life, I never spend $400 on something so useless before.
mine did that as well, had to be torqued to 120lbs to stay in place. looks like i need to get new ones then!
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Fitted the new bushes now and they fit a hell of a lot easier and adjust with ease and more adjustment range. Much better than the old ones
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Fitted the new bushes now and they fit a hell of a lot easier and adjust with ease and more adjustment range. Much better than the old ones
are you only using them in the front? What do you have for rear, mb-arts?
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are you only using them in the front? What do you have for rear, mb-arts?

yep

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Both camber and toe? How do you like them?
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Yeah there good I have camber and thrust arms in mb arts but I’ve had to change some of the ends and have found stronger ends

check the link
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When you bought new MB camber arms, did you buy early series MKI or later updated version MKII with stronger rod ends when you got them?
The early ones MK1 had thread 5/8-18 and rated at 17955 ult. static radial load capacity.
Which ones do you have?

I got the stronger ones
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Do point out for the rear instead of upper replacement Camber and Toe arms we adjust the lower arms.

Reason being - instead of adjusting top of tire outwards reducing all important clearance to outer fender - lower arms adjust bottom of tire inwards to reduce premature inner edge wear.

Also easily accessible / single wrench adjustable (accurately under load direct on alignment rack).

Plus K-MAC bush design having 2 1/2 times the load bearing and shock absorption area of spherical bearings which because of their wafer thin teflon liners soon pound out.


Where continually developing, upgrading adjuster kits example:

Front Camber and Caster adjuster for R170, W202, C208 / A208 models (#502016 J) this recent upgrade allowed for extra, precise adjustment (now 4 times that of the inaccurate one only offset positive fluted bolts).

Also now can be fitted on vehicle - eliminating need for control arm removal and bench press.

Re the Swedish Nord Loc washers - these are considered among the best, but same with majority of lock washers they depend on full tightness for the reverse teeth to function preventing loosening.

In 2014 we invented a lock tab system where by - it is impossible for nut to inadvertently loosen no matter what the tension applied.

This design break through has meant the clamping pressure / hardened teeth engagement on these now eccentric adjustable bushes is maintained. Completely resolving issues such as slippage leading to subsequent loss of alignment setting / noise!

Kevin
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Marked max offset on bolt
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Did you remove a bunch of material from the body mount? That looks pretty thin.
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Originally Posted by K-Mac
Do point out for the rear instead of upper replacement Camber and Toe arms we adjust the lower arms.

Reason being - instead of adjusting top of tire outwards reducing all important clearance to outer fender - lower arms adjust bottom of tire inwards to reduce premature inner edge wear.

Also easily accessible / single wrench adjustable (accurately under load direct on alignment rack).

Plus K-MAC bush design having 2 1/2 times the load bearing and shock absorption area of spherical bearings which because of their wafer thin teflon liners soon pound out.


Where continually developing, upgrading adjuster kits example:

Front Camber and Caster adjuster for R170, W202, C208 / A208 models (#502016 J) this recent upgrade allowed for extra, precise adjustment (now 4 times that of the inaccurate one only offset positive fluted bolts).

Also now can be fitted on vehicle - eliminating need for control arm removal and bench press.

Re the Swedish Nord Loc washers - these are considered among the best, but same with majority of lock washers they depend on full tightness for the reverse teeth to function preventing loosening.

In 2014 we invented a lock tab system where by - it is impossible for nut to inadvertently loosen no matter what the tension applied.

This design break through has meant the clamping pressure / hardened teeth engagement on these now eccentric adjustable bushes is maintained. Completely resolving issues such as slippage leading to subsequent loss of alignment setting / noise!

Kevin
Sounds like you are admitting to a flaw in the original design?

While I understand all products can be improved, im still $400 out of pocket for nothing. Are you offering any kind of compensation to those who wasted their money on these?
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Originally Posted by PJmak
Sounds like you are admitting to a flaw in the original design?

While I understand all products can be improved, im still $400 out of pocket for nothing. Are you offering any kind of compensation to those who wasted their money on these?

This original design has been in production since 1993. Well and truly proven.

What we explained above was the recent upgrade re ‘extra adjustment” capability and the elimination of the time consuming need to “remove both lower suspension arms” to install!

Also separate to above: Background re locking systems and specifically the mention by “raw 1879” and the use of Nord Loc washers.

Moving “undercar suspension parts” it is obviously essential they need to be fully tight, secure. Nord Loc as used by K-MAC up to 2014 are considered amongst the best locking device worldwide. But like, majority of lock washers “must be fully tight” to function (they depending on “reverse teeth and clamping pressure”)

Always constant ongoing development we saw the challenge to invent a method whereby even if connection has not been fully tightened – it cannot inadvertently loosen. Hence the introduction in 2014 of the K-MAC lock tab system.

Kevin


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