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Old 04-11-2018, 03:46 PM
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This isn’t launch control, it’s allowing the car to launch at peak torque. Be careful about doing this often, you could snap your axels. We don’t know yet what the breaking point is on some parts of this car.

Eurocharged has offered to do the same for me but the risk is on us.

Im on the fence about doing it or just leaving things at 2200rpm.
To be clear the words "Launch Control" I never spoke.

I said new Launch RPM. I tried it once. However, it may not be necessary to get a decent launch anyway. The 3.42 was done at about 2200 RPM's.
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Originally Posted by 2014c300
To be clear the words "Launch Control" I never spoke.

I said new Launch RPM. I tried it once. However, it may not be necessary to get a decent launch anyway. The 3.42 was done at about 2200 RPM's.
Thanks for being “clear”, but I can read. It was for all the other people that can’t read, but I addressed it to you since it’s your thread and you haven’t corrected anyone.

Nice job on the 3.42. I should be able to come close, if not beat it when weather improves. I’m in a cabriolet running 19’s, but managed to run 3.63 on my winter wheels/rubber. Look forward to seeing what you run at the track.
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Thanks for being “clear”, but I can read. It was for all the other people that can’t read, but I addressed it to you since it’s your thread and you haven’t corrected anyone.

Nice job on the 3.42. I should be able to come close, if not beat it when weather improves. I’m in a cabriolet running 19’s, but managed to run 3.63 on my winter wheels/rubber. Look forward to seeing what you run at the track.
I am not the racing lingo police.

Looking forward to seeing that.
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I am not the racing lingo police.

Looking forward to seeing that.
I noticed on your rev video, you used “hold”. Do you do that when you’re launching the car as well before brake boosting? Second person I’ve seen use the technique so I’m just curious. I’ll have to try it..

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I noticed on your rev video, you used “hold”. Do you do that when you’re launching the car as well before brake boosting? Second person I’ve seen use the technique so I’m just curious. I’ll have to try it..

Hold only lights up when you press the brake hard. The function is really meant to be used on a hill.

Depressing the Accelerator voids the Hold function. Seeing the light in my video is essentially irrelevant since the accelerator was depressed at the same time.

However I have a feeling you already knew that.
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Originally Posted by 2014c300
Hold only lights up when you press the brake hard. The function is really meant to be used on a hill.

Depressing the Accelerator voids the Hold function. Seeing the light in my video is essentially irrelevant since the accelerator was depressed at the same time.

However I have a feeling you already knew that.
Wow, you’re so helpful man! So glad you share all these videos and useful information.
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I think it's the first time when you press hard one the break hold shows up. You can't use it to break boost because the slightest acceleration it lets go. When I'm going to do a hard launch I tend to press break harder than usual. That's when it will turn on

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Old 04-11-2018, 04:27 PM
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The fastest quarter is still held by EC. And this isn’t launch control. lol
Lol it is a raised rpm used to control your launch, so in lamest terms, you can call it that haha. Had Scott had more road who knows if they would still have the fastest on there lol . I give props, though. It is real tough getting a good time in the street with all the variables that can effect the ET.

It should be an exciting year for this platform as all the data and results continue to be released.
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that was a quick reply lol faster than mine and I had just read it nice!
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Lol it is a raised rpm used to control your launch, so in lamest terms, you can call it that haha. Had Scott had more road who knows if they would still have the fastest on there lol . I give props, though. It is real tough getting a good time in the street with all the variables that can effect the ET.

It should be an exciting year for this platform as all the data and results continue to be released.
Fair enough, but it’s still very much a brake boost. We don’t have the clutch required to do launch control - but a $25,000 VW GTI does.. really stupid.

I agree, looking forward to seeing what everyone runs.
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I think it's the first time when you press hard one the break hold shows up. You can't use it to break issues because the slightest acceleration it lets go. When I'm going to do a hard launch I tend to press break harder than usual. That's when it will turn on
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The 11.86 was ran on my Winter wheels and tires, stock run flats.

I just wanted to get an idea what it would do so i found a road in Mexico that looked nice, forgot my measuring tape that day. The Mexican cops are all over the place in the spring. Unfortunately our track does not open for Test and Tune until the end of April.
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I always find it interesting, there are EC fanboys on this forum and there are AMR fanboys on this forum. Why do we have to argue who is best? I can think of maybe 4 or 5 usernames on here (that I won't name) that constantly banter about which company is putting out the superior tune. The thing is, they are both reputable names. They have both revised their tunes and these cars will trap/0-60/quarter mile time very similarly.

The way I see it, these new versions of the tunes are picking up around 100whp which explains the trap speeds guys have seen. That is 117ish...Excited to see what track times people run this spring with their tunes.
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Originally Posted by sliqdaddy91
I always find it interesting, there are EC fanboys on this forum and there are AMR fanboys on this forum. Why do we have to argue who is best? I can think of maybe 4 or 5 usernames on here (that I won't name) that constantly banter about which company is putting out the superior tune. The thing is, they are both reputable names. They have both revised their tunes and these cars will trap/0-60/quarter mile time very similarly.

The way I see it, these new versions of the tunes are picking up around 100whp which explains the trap speeds guys have seen. That is 117ish...Excited to see what track times people run this spring with their tunes.
I don’t think anyone’s competing here, you’re living in the past. I regularly talk to guys from the forum with AMR and JB1 - it’s nice to see dev on this platform.

The V3 tunes are all very similar. We all have diff trims, diff fuel and conditions. Even 94 octane can vary between gas stations in the same city.

Would be nice if more people were open about results. I see so much chat but hardly any time slips, especially from the douchebag that only tune in to say “my tunes the best!!!!!!”
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3000rpm stall, I think thats pretty dope, and undoubtedly helps the launch TREMENDOUSLY.

In terms of pure off the line acceleration to 60, that 800rpm increase probably helps more than 30-40hp.
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3000rpm stall, I think thats pretty dope, and undoubtedly helps the launch TREMENDOUSLY.

In terms of pure off the line acceleration to 60, that 800rpm increase probably helps more than 30-40hp.
It could definitely help but as threefirs said, not much research has been put into this car yet to see what harm that could do. There must be a reason for MB to not to give us launch control besides being able to pull a better 0-60 than a c63.

In other news, I am definitely following threefirs as his Cabriolet weighs more than our GLC43, so I would like to see what numbers/times he is putting down. I know aerodynamics also play a factor but if he can put down good times, then we shouldn't be too far off with the GLC.
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aerodynamics plays a small roll in 1/4 mile (unless its a huge flat square surface in from of vehicle or a parachute lol). Drag coefficient plays a bigger roll at very hi speeds. At 1/4 mile speeds C-class and glc class aerodynamics will have very little affect on ET. (drag coefficient of C-class .24 and glc-class .32) Weight difference will have a much more significant roll on ET in 1/4 mile.
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Originally Posted by agchenry
aerodynamics plays a small roll in 1/4 mile (unless its a huge flat square surface in from of vehicle or a parachute lol). Drag coefficient plays a bigger roll at very hi speeds. At 1/4 mile speeds C-class and glc class aerodynamics will have very little affect on ET. (drag coefficient of C-class .24 and glc-class .32) Weight difference will have a much more significant roll on ET in 1/4 mile.
You are correct and I meant to say coefficient drag. In any case, with that logic, a GLC43 weighs less than a C43 Cab, which means we should put down similar if not better ET in 1/4 and 0-60. I seriously doubt it but I am still looking forward to threefirs results/data. A GLC43 running mid 3's 0-60 would be
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Agreed, a GLC running sub 4sec 0-60 will be
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Very nice. Congrats on the 0-60 time
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It could definitely help but as threefirs said, not much research has been put into this car yet to see what harm that could do. There must be a reason for MB to not to give us launch control besides being able to pull a better 0-60 than a c63.

In other news, I am definitely following threefirs as his Cabriolet weighs more than our GLC43, so I would like to see what numbers/times he is putting down. I know aerodynamics also play a factor but if he can put down good times, then we shouldn't be too far off with the GLC.
The fastest 0-60 Ive been able to put down in the GLC was 4.5 on map2. It was 80degrees and 81% Humidity on 98ron Pump Gas. Front tires with about 20% tread left.

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I went out today in some really wet conditions - it’s about 5 degrees out and roads were soaked - impressed with my 1/8th time considering

1.78 60’ foot on these roads. I’m sure this car will be 1.6 territory when the track season begins


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This is my 0-60 in the same conditions. Note the 2.19 degree uphill and soaked roads.

Not bad considering the conditions and cabriolet weight.


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I have a general question. The version 3 tunes from EC and AMR, are they only for the c43? Would that tune not work on the C450?

P.S- Saw last night on youtube the AMR tuned guy ran a 3.3 to 60

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