2018 Residuals?
08-20-2018, 07:44 PM
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2018 Residuals?
So, I do this deal on a 2018 C43..loaded..near $69,000k msrp...they knock off 10%..great..BUT the residual is 54% on a 36 month lease...is that good or bad? Why so low?
08-20-2018, 09:42 PM
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All true. Minor updates. I’ll take my $10k discount get a after market boost in HP and I could care less about the screen and the steering wheel. Actually prefer the older one
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08-20-2018, 10:17 PM
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Sounds like that is the residual on the coupe. The coupe is typically lower than the sedan. For instance this month I believe 36 month 12K per year on the sedan is 57%.
At only a 10% discount and that residual, it will not be a great lease but for that model it is good (assuming they aren’t hiding profit elsewhere or hiking up the money factor) If you love the car and are comfortable with the payment, then go for it.
At only a 10% discount and that residual, it will not be a great lease but for that model it is good (assuming they aren’t hiding profit elsewhere or hiking up the money factor) If you love the car and are comfortable with the payment, then go for it.
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08-20-2018, 11:13 PM
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08-20-2018, 11:46 PM
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No need to attack me. I have been looking for a replacement for my c300 and am strongly considering a c43. I have been quoted 12% plus $500 off of an in stock c43 sedan at mb of Tampa bay. Incentives in my case are through usaa (fleet I think is the same) which varies in amount from month to month. Even though this was a great deal, it had a lot more options than I am interested in (71k msrp) and I have some time to see how residuals, money factor and factory to dealer incentives change (hopefully in my favor) as the 2019s filter in.
I am simply trying to help others in this community know what is possible as far as discounts. They do vary by region and dealer. Happy to share my experiences with others to get the best deal possible for them.
I am simply trying to help others in this community know what is possible as far as discounts. They do vary by region and dealer. Happy to share my experiences with others to get the best deal possible for them.
08-21-2018, 01:43 AM
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No need to attack me. I have been looking for a replacement for my c300 and am strongly considering a c43. I have been quoted 12% plus $500 off of an in stock c43 sedan at mb of Tampa bay. Incentives in my case are through usaa (fleet I think is the same) which varies in amount from month to month. Even though this was a great deal, it had a lot more options than I am interested in (71k msrp) and I have some time to see how residuals, money factor and factory to dealer incentives change (hopefully in my favor) as the 2019s filter in.
I am simply trying to help others in this community know what is possible as far as discounts. They do vary by region and dealer. Happy to share my experiences with others to get the best deal possible for them.
I am simply trying to help others in this community know what is possible as far as discounts. They do vary by region and dealer. Happy to share my experiences with others to get the best deal possible for them.
PM with the details....seriously.....
08-21-2018, 08:28 AM
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No need to attack me. I have been looking for a replacement for my c300 and am strongly considering a c43. I have been quoted 12% plus $500 off of an in stock c43 sedan at mb of Tampa bay. Incentives in my case are through usaa (fleet I think is the same) which varies in amount from month to month. Even though this was a great deal, it had a lot more options than I am interested in (71k msrp) and I have some time to see how residuals, money factor and factory to dealer incentives change (hopefully in my favor) as the 2019s filter in.
I am simply trying to help others in this community know what is possible as far as discounts. They do vary by region and dealer. Happy to share my experiences with others to get the best deal possible for them.
I am simply trying to help others in this community know what is possible as far as discounts. They do vary by region and dealer. Happy to share my experiences with others to get the best deal possible for them.
08-21-2018, 09:08 AM
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08-21-2018, 09:28 AM
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Really? Lets see. A larger info display (taken from the c63), a 'new' steering wheel, (taken from the c63), no new body panels, a very slight front and rear facia 'refresh', A very slight 'boost' in HP 23 to be exact (turn a screw? which according to various motor sites that tested it, is imperceptible in performance changes) did I leave anything out? Why dont you tell me where this..." one of the largest facelifts MB has ever done" comes into play? What exactly was changed other then what I just stated? I'm waiting.
08-21-2018, 03:24 PM
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It is definitely a significant facelift, you are deluded to think otherwise.
New front bumper, new front grille, new headlights, new diffuser, new tailpipes, new rear lights (sedan), larger infotainment screen, upgraded infotainment system, digital instrument cluster, hp bump, new steering wheel.
It isn't an all-new model, but the above is very respectable for a facelift.
New front bumper, new front grille, new headlights, new diffuser, new tailpipes, new rear lights (sedan), larger infotainment screen, upgraded infotainment system, digital instrument cluster, hp bump, new steering wheel.
It isn't an all-new model, but the above is very respectable for a facelift.
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08-21-2018, 03:55 PM
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Well then I'm deluded...and every car Journalist who reviewed the 2019. Not exactly what ME or pretty much EVERY car jorunalist who has reviewed this car determined to me a..."minor facelift"" and not as you called it..."LARGEST FACELIFT" PLEASE. Not even significant, in fact almost indistinguishable from the previous version. Here maybe you need to read this...DUH
"After giving the C-Class sedan a nip and tuck a few months ago, Mercedes Benz has turned their attention towards the Coupe, Cabriolet and the warm C43 AMG. The updates include a few visual tweaks and more power for the existing engines."
GET IT??? 'A FEW...VISUAL TWEAKS' try this review...
"On the outside, the entire C-Class lineup receives some subtle styling revisions."
READING THS? "subtle styling changes..." AND TRY THIS ONE IN CASE you are not getting it...and lastly
"After perusing those numbers, we thought we'd made easy sense of the facelifted fifth-generation 2019 Mercedes-Benz C-Class. You need a loupe and a PowerPoint presentation to spot the bodywork changes...."
"YOU NEED A LOUPE AND A PP TO SPOT THE BODYWORK,,"
I rest my case. MINOR changes!
"After giving the C-Class sedan a nip and tuck a few months ago, Mercedes Benz has turned their attention towards the Coupe, Cabriolet and the warm C43 AMG. The updates include a few visual tweaks and more power for the existing engines."
GET IT??? 'A FEW...VISUAL TWEAKS' try this review...
"On the outside, the entire C-Class lineup receives some subtle styling revisions."
READING THS? "subtle styling changes..." AND TRY THIS ONE IN CASE you are not getting it...and lastly
"After perusing those numbers, we thought we'd made easy sense of the facelifted fifth-generation 2019 Mercedes-Benz C-Class. You need a loupe and a PowerPoint presentation to spot the bodywork changes...."
"YOU NEED A LOUPE AND A PP TO SPOT THE BODYWORK,,"
I rest my case. MINOR changes!
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08-21-2018, 04:08 PM
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Well then I'm deluded...and every car Journalist who reviewed the 2019. Not exactly what ME or pretty much EVERY car jorunalist who has reviewed this car determined to me a..."minor facelift"" and not as you called it..."LARGEST FACELIFT" PLEASE. Not even significant, in fact almost indistinguishable from the previous version. Here maybe you need to read this...DUH
"After giving the C-Class sedan a nip and tuck a few months ago, Mercedes Benz has turned their attention towards the Coupe, Cabriolet and the warm C43 AMG. The updates include a few visual tweaks and more power for the existing engines."
GET IT??? 'A FEW...VISUAL TWEAKS' try this review...
"On the outside, the entire C-Class lineup receives some subtle styling revisions."
READING THS? "subtle styling changes..." AND TRY THIS ONE IN CASE you are not getting it...and lastly
"After perusing those numbers, we thought we'd made easy sense of the facelifted fifth-generation 2019 Mercedes-Benz C-Class. You need a loupe and a PowerPoint presentation to spot the bodywork changes...."
"YOU NEED A LOUPE AND A PP TO SPOT THE BODYWORK,,"
I rest my case. MINOR changes!
"After giving the C-Class sedan a nip and tuck a few months ago, Mercedes Benz has turned their attention towards the Coupe, Cabriolet and the warm C43 AMG. The updates include a few visual tweaks and more power for the existing engines."
GET IT??? 'A FEW...VISUAL TWEAKS' try this review...
"On the outside, the entire C-Class lineup receives some subtle styling revisions."
READING THS? "subtle styling changes..." AND TRY THIS ONE IN CASE you are not getting it...and lastly
"After perusing those numbers, we thought we'd made easy sense of the facelifted fifth-generation 2019 Mercedes-Benz C-Class. You need a loupe and a PowerPoint presentation to spot the bodywork changes...."
"YOU NEED A LOUPE AND A PP TO SPOT THE BODYWORK,,"
I rest my case. MINOR changes!
https://autoweek.com/article/car-rev...generation-gap
6500 new parts is not a "MINOR change". And that is the reason the residual sucks on the 2018's you're trying to get a quote on. You obviously don't know how car leasing works if you're surprised that a PFL has a ****ty residual.
08-21-2018, 04:11 PM
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Really? Lets see. A larger info display (taken from the c63), a 'new' steering wheel, (taken from the c63), no new body panels, a very slight front and rear facia 'refresh', A very slight 'boost' in HP 23 to be exact (turn a screw? which according to various motor sites that tested it, is imperceptible in performance changes) did I leave anything out? Why dont you tell me where this..." one of the largest facelifts MB has ever done" comes into play? What exactly was changed other then what I just stated? I'm waiting.
08-21-2018, 04:13 PM
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Ehh, I will agree...It is a minor facelift. Personally, I don't see a point in trading in a 2017-18 C43 for a 19...
23hp is nothing.
Grill & diffuser are ehh
and new steering wheel and a couple inches extra on the screen aren't worth buying a whole "new" car.
Considering nothing mechanical has really changed, its the same car, subjectively "prettier"
23hp is nothing.
Grill & diffuser are ehh
and new steering wheel and a couple inches extra on the screen aren't worth buying a whole "new" car.
Considering nothing mechanical has really changed, its the same car, subjectively "prettier"
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08-21-2018, 04:16 PM
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Well now, its moot. Goodbye boys. Got word today my ordered 2018 Porsche Macan GTS is on the "VAN CHERRY" and headed to SoCal first week in October delivery . The decision has been made for me. Cheers
08-21-2018, 04:53 PM
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c43 to Macan... I don’t see the logic between choosing one over the other, except poor man’s AMG to poor man’s Porsche...
Bye-bye boy!
08-22-2018, 07:54 PM
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I would NOT consider a either one of those vehicles to be a "poor man's AMG to a poor man's Porsche"
I happen to have ONE and soon to be TWO of the above mentioned vehicles and we are by NO means "poor".
Each vehicle in someone's "Stable" has a use and purpose. Some for fun and some for utility....and maybe a mix of both.
He/she made a decision and went with it...respect it. Just my opinion.
08-23-2018, 02:25 AM
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WOW!
I would NOT consider a either one of those vehicles to be a "poor man's AMG to a poor man's Porsche"
I happen to have ONE and soon to be TWO of the above mentioned vehicles and we are by NO means "poor".
Each vehicle in someone's "Stable" has a use and purpose. Some for fun and some for utility....and maybe a mix of both.
He/she made a decision and went with it...respect it. Just my opinion.
I would NOT consider a either one of those vehicles to be a "poor man's AMG to a poor man's Porsche"
I happen to have ONE and soon to be TWO of the above mentioned vehicles and we are by NO means "poor".
Each vehicle in someone's "Stable" has a use and purpose. Some for fun and some for utility....and maybe a mix of both.
He/she made a decision and went with it...respect it. Just my opinion.
Good riddance!
I wish him/her luck on the Porsche forums. Actually, I don’t... I hope he/she brings that kinda attitude over there... hahaha!
