2019 Engine tune
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2019 Engine tune
I ordered the 2019 C43, in which I am still waiting for unfortunately, and was looking to get the ECU tuned. I don't have any experience in this, and I don't know since its a 2019 model year if I can get a tune for previous years since the hp increased. I was just looking for a nice hp increase and something that can change the exhaust sounds (Ie. Crackles or pops since the 2019 version sounds like it has less pops). I do have the performance exhaust, and I was wondering if I needed to modify anything else or if I can just get a tune from stock. Also I was wondering if a dealership could install it and what happens to the engine warranty.
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2018 C43 AMG Brilliant Blue Metallic
U will have to wait for tuners to get there hands on 19s before they will release tunes for 19s
Warranty is out the window if rhey find out u tuned
Gotta pay to play
Warranty is out the window if rhey find out u tuned
Gotta pay to play
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Well after some quick research I actually found a lot of people with problems after their tune. Now i'm thinking of just getting down pipes, again I have the PE, would this be a good idea and would it get any hp gain without a tune?
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Let me reply to myself and ask if RaceChip is a good way to go. It seems like an easy install, pretty cheap, and it looks like it can be reverted to factory, anyone know if this is true?
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NO. You need a tune for downpipes. No one with JB4, Racechip, or VR piggyback has had an issue. Most of the full tunes are pretty good now as well. Racechip is the easiest tune to use, JB4 makes the most power for a piggyback tune.
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I think i'l go get a GTS black, see how that is then get a down pipe? Ive seen in videos of it that it strains the transmission a lot, idk for sure though. Also does anyone know if the Racechip changes the exhaust at all(Ie. Burble/pops) or is it just performance? Also also anyone have an estimation on how long it would take for Racechip to release a chip for 2019, or are the current chips fine for 2019?
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I think i'l go get a GTS black, see how that is then get a down pipe? Ive seen in videos of it that it strains the transmission a lot, idk for sure though. Also does anyone know if the Racechip changes the exhaust at all(Ie. Burble/pops) or is it just performance? Also also anyone have an estimation on how long it would take for Racechip to release a chip for 2019, or are the current chips fine for 2019?
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I will probably go for a new one, i'l use the car stock for a while and see if I feel it needs the chip. I've seen on AMR tunes that there is like a burble mode, I assume that is not an option on the GTS Racechip though, just basically eco all the way up to race plus?
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I got the eurocharged tune. Haven't had a single problem, have insanely loud pops and crackles and have about 100 hp increase about about 120 torque increase. Definitely worth every cent.
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https://www.eurocharged.com/ecutunin...-software-2015
That's the link for the 2018 model. I can't find the 2019 for some reason but I spent countless hours emailing and on the phone with them and they said it the 2019 would have the same gains just with the higher hp. The link is for the stats, there should be another link somewhere there showing the dyno graph.
That's the link for the 2018 model. I can't find the 2019 for some reason but I spent countless hours emailing and on the phone with them and they said it the 2019 would have the same gains just with the higher hp. The link is for the stats, there should be another link somewhere there showing the dyno graph.
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I ordered the 2019 C43, in which I am still waiting for unfortunately, and was looking to get the ECU tuned. I don't have any experience in this, and I don't know since its a 2019 model year if I can get a tune for previous years since the hp increased. I was just looking for a nice hp increase and something that can change the exhaust sounds (Ie. Crackles or pops since the 2019 version sounds like it has less pops). I do have the performance exhaust, and I was wondering if I needed to modify anything else or if I can just get a tune from stock. Also I was wondering if a dealership could install it and what happens to the engine warranty.
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I ordered the 2019 C43, in which I am still waiting for unfortunately, and was looking to get the ECU tuned. I don't have any experience in this, and I don't know since its a 2019 model year if I can get a tune for previous years since the hp increased. I was just looking for a nice hp increase and something that can change the exhaust sounds (Ie. Crackles or pops since the 2019 version sounds like it has less pops). I do have the performance exhaust, and I was wondering if I needed to modify anything else or if I can just get a tune from stock. Also I was wondering if a dealership could install it and what happens to the engine warranty.
At a minimum, you should drive it long enough to familiarize yourself with the stock ECU map behavior and to break in the drivetrain before you tune it. Your car and your money, so good luck to you.
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If you want downpipes, you WILL need a flash tune that can auto-clear or disable the CEL related to cat efficiency. JB4 (and any other piggyback on this platform) will not prevent the CEL from coming on if you get a downpipe.
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I've spoken with several tuners, including Eurocharged and AMR. The people I talk to are either ignorant or think that we are ignorant to the fact that larger turbos were in fact installed on the 2019s (not simply a tune). Until these tuners actually create a tune specific for the new and larger turbos, the "100 hp" increase is based off the pre-FL model, so its hard to say what actually happens with the new
There are mounted after the cats, where non EU models and the pre facelift would have resonators
These create significant extra back pressure hence the need to increase the boost and use bigger turbos- to make the extra 33 bhp and the same torque.
Now Asian & North American cars do not have the PPFs fitted, so I'm not sure HOW they're making the same power stock ( or even IF they are) .
I've seen stock facelift 2019s run low 4s and mid to low 12s STOCK, which is very quick.
These were US cars.
I've also seen facelift US cars make around 400whp after a stage 1 tune, which is more than what EU facelift can do- mine and others made about 380 WHP Peak after a remap. ( However low- mid range torque is less affected by back pressure than top end power, and facelift EU cars are also making nearly 480 Wheep LB FT TQ which is immense.
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The reason the facelift doesn't make massively more power despite having the bigger Turbos from the E43 AND running higher boost, is simply due to the facelift having been fitted with EU mandatory Petrol Particulate Filters.
There are mounted after the cats, where non EU models and the pre facelift would have resonators
These create significant extra back pressure hence the need to increase the boost and use bigger turbos- to make the extra 33 bhp and the same torque.
Now Asian & North American cars do not have the PPFs fitted, so I'm not sure HOW they're making the same power stock ( or even IF they are) .
I've seen stock facelift 2019s run low 4s and mid to low 12s STOCK, which is very quick.
These were US cars.
I've also seen facelift US cars make around 400whp after a stage 1 tune, which is more than what EU facelift can do- mine and others made about 380 WHP Peak after a remap. ( However low- mid range torque is less affected by back pressure than top end power, and facelift EU cars are also making nearly 480 Wheep LB FT TQ which is immense.
There are mounted after the cats, where non EU models and the pre facelift would have resonators
These create significant extra back pressure hence the need to increase the boost and use bigger turbos- to make the extra 33 bhp and the same torque.
Now Asian & North American cars do not have the PPFs fitted, so I'm not sure HOW they're making the same power stock ( or even IF they are) .
I've seen stock facelift 2019s run low 4s and mid to low 12s STOCK, which is very quick.
These were US cars.
I've also seen facelift US cars make around 400whp after a stage 1 tune, which is more than what EU facelift can do- mine and others made about 380 WHP Peak after a remap. ( However low- mid range torque is less affected by back pressure than top end power, and facelift EU cars are also making nearly 480 Wheep LB FT TQ which is immense.
Very interesting. Is there a way I can (easily) check to see if I have PPF installed in my car? Mine is a US car.
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Inside the USA that is correct. Outside the USA JB4 has a passive delete option that can be used for that purpose where appropriate.
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you simply look underneath the car on a ramp or do a VIN check, as the GPF have a specific option code.
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Very interesting. Do you hypothesize that the stock car from the US would have a higher dyno than European?
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And on Dragy their doing low 4s and low mid 12s stock which is very impressive.
With the BMW Z4 M40i the EU model is 45 Bhp down in the US spec and the difference is the OPF.