Rear AMG Caliper Upgrade?
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Rear AMG Caliper Upgrade?
Since these calipers in rear are tiny, anyone attempt to put C63 calipers on the rear? I have a CLS550 with E63 rear caliper upgrade and makes the car look SO MUCH better!
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i am sure it is possible and most likely bolt on and plug and play. but then we would need red fronts to match! slc43 has red brakes and red rears to match. the c43 is the only ugly rear caliper amg car.
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so i fully looked into a c63 rear caliper upgrade. the first thing i noticed was the insane price of the brake pads. $160. the c43 were $53. so then i looked at the design. very similiar. just painted and essentially has a beauty cover over the face of the caliper.
would there be any interest in me machining covers that you can affix to the caliper. id need to figure out how the oem fixes the cover to the caliper. but it looks like the same overall design. ill look into the slc43 rears as well. maybe those are cheaper.
would there be any interest in me machining covers that you can affix to the caliper. id need to figure out how the oem fixes the cover to the caliper. but it looks like the same overall design. ill look into the slc43 rears as well. maybe those are cheaper.
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so i fully looked into a c63 rear caliper upgrade. the first thing i noticed was the insane price of the brake pads. $160. the c43 were $53. so then i looked at the design. very similiar. just painted and essentially has a beauty cover over the face of the caliper.
would there be any interest in me machining covers that you can affix to the caliper. id need to figure out how the oem fixes the cover to the caliper. but it looks like the same overall design. ill look into the slc43 rears as well. maybe those are cheaper.
would there be any interest in me machining covers that you can affix to the caliper. id need to figure out how the oem fixes the cover to the caliper. but it looks like the same overall design. ill look into the slc43 rears as well. maybe those are cheaper.
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so i fully looked into a c63 rear caliper upgrade. the first thing i noticed was the insane price of the brake pads. $160. the c43 were $53. so then i looked at the design. very similiar. just painted and essentially has a beauty cover over the face of the caliper.
would there be any interest in me machining covers that you can affix to the caliper. id need to figure out how the oem fixes the cover to the caliper. but it looks like the same overall design. ill look into the slc43 rears as well. maybe those are cheaper.
would there be any interest in me machining covers that you can affix to the caliper. id need to figure out how the oem fixes the cover to the caliper. but it looks like the same overall design. ill look into the slc43 rears as well. maybe those are cheaper.
Last edited by DVision44; 01-10-2019 at 06:20 PM.
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This is what I was looking for. Like all of you, I think that rear caliper throws off the look of the car's profile. I would much rather do a better caliper than a cover. I also thought about the W204 C63 rear caliper so before I posted a new thread decided to search.
No options so far I'm guessing?
No options so far I'm guessing?
#13
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This is what I was looking for. Like all of you, I think that rear caliper throws off the look of the car's profile. I would much rather do a better caliper than a cover. I also thought about the W204 C63 rear caliper so before I posted a new thread decided to search.
No options so far I'm guessing?
No options so far I'm guessing?
i looked into all of this and even bought a c63 caliper. if you have the stock 18" wheels, the c63 rear does not clear. it even wont clear the front wheels that have same size rotor.
the slc43/cla45 rear caliper has a much different offset, and no wear sensor mounting.
my plan is to machine a cover. affix with jb weld, and then paint front and rears red. this isnt a true track car. if it was for me, id get 19" wheels and put the c63s red calipers on and call it a day. but you will need to space out the c63 calipers by 4mm it looks like. everything else was bolt on and plug and play.
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the only cheap option is a cover and paint.
i looked into all of this and even bought a c63 caliper. if you have the stock 18" wheels, the c63 rear does not clear. it even wont clear the front wheels that have same size rotor.
the slc43/cla45 rear caliper has a much different offset, and no wear sensor mounting.
my plan is to machine a cover. affix with jb weld, and then paint front and rears red. this isnt a true track car. if it was for me, id get 19" wheels and put the c63s red calipers on and call it a day. but you will need to space out the c63 calipers by 4mm it looks like. everything else was bolt on and plug and play.
i looked into all of this and even bought a c63 caliper. if you have the stock 18" wheels, the c63 rear does not clear. it even wont clear the front wheels that have same size rotor.
the slc43/cla45 rear caliper has a much different offset, and no wear sensor mounting.
my plan is to machine a cover. affix with jb weld, and then paint front and rears red. this isnt a true track car. if it was for me, id get 19" wheels and put the c63s red calipers on and call it a day. but you will need to space out the c63 calipers by 4mm it looks like. everything else was bolt on and plug and play.
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The challenge is to retain the e-parking brake.
http://forums.racingbrake.com/forum/...=5100#post5100
http://forums.racingbrake.com/forum/...=5100#post5100
also described it above. all that is needed is a custom rotor offset.
the c63 rear caliper bolts up but due to knuckle design, the offset of caliper is incorrect. a spacer on caliper or a custom rotor with proper off set and special 18" wheels or all 19" wheels will clear.
the cla45/slc43 rear caliper bolts up as well but once again the offset is incorrect. so a spacer on caliper or special rotor will need to be made.
both oem rear calipers have parking brake integrated in caliper that are plug and play into the car with their oem wiring harness.
if you guys made a custom rotor hat for our car, you can use the c63 friction surface with a custom hat and you have a brake upgrade for our front and rear then.
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C63 rear drum brake has been eliminated and incorporated with e-parking since 2016 and on, and assume the rear rotor is now same as C63S' 360x26mm.
However it's still not as easy as you mentioned unless you don't care to retain the parking brake (which is generally not recommended), and replace it with traditional 4 pot rear calipers.
However it's still not as easy as you mentioned unless you don't care to retain the parking brake (which is generally not recommended), and replace it with traditional 4 pot rear calipers.
Last edited by RacingBrake; 07-25-2019 at 03:52 PM.
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Keep in mind that your cars now utilize the electronic parking brake, the W204 didn't have this. We had a manual parking brake that utilized rear brake shoes.
So mounting a 4 piston calipers wont' work, as you cant utilize your parking brake function.
So mounting a 4 piston calipers wont' work, as you cant utilize your parking brake function.
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I think there is a misunderstanding here. I have a 2017 Mercedes c43 amg. I wish to install w205 c63 rear brake calipers and rotors since i believe those are the best upgrade option. i know the w204 brakes will not work or you would sacrifice the e parking brake. that is not my solution.
2017 c43 (as well as c300), has 320mm x 24mm rear rotors from factory.
w205 c63 and all variants have 360x26. drawings below to see offsets and what needs to be changed. essentially c63 has thicker rotor hat and different offset. i am estimated the knuckle of c63 to space the caliper about 4mm forward vs the c43.
essentially the offsets are different so using your custom rotors, all you would need to do is make a custom rotor hat for the c300/400/450/43 all of them are the same. and you can use a c63 w205 friction surface and we have a brake upgrade. the caliper with proper rotor offset would just bolt up.
some 18" wheels will clear these brakes and all 19" wheels will clear. e parking brake is plug and play with below harness from c63.
c43/450/400/300 w205 rear rotors dims.
c63/c63s w205 rotor dims.
oem w205 C63 caliper. this is same caliper on w205 c63, c63s and c63s with carbon ceramic brakes. they just paint it different. also i believe this caliper is on the s class and a few others.
mounting the bracket for c63 brake caliper on my 17 c43.
w205 c63 rear caliper mounted on my 17 c43.
pad difference between 17 c43 and 17 c63 rear pads.
e parking brake motor connection.
e parking brake motor.
part number for wiring harness needed to connect c63 w205 e parking brake to c43 wiring.
c43 stock ugly rear brake.
2017 c43 (as well as c300), has 320mm x 24mm rear rotors from factory.
w205 c63 and all variants have 360x26. drawings below to see offsets and what needs to be changed. essentially c63 has thicker rotor hat and different offset. i am estimated the knuckle of c63 to space the caliper about 4mm forward vs the c43.
essentially the offsets are different so using your custom rotors, all you would need to do is make a custom rotor hat for the c300/400/450/43 all of them are the same. and you can use a c63 w205 friction surface and we have a brake upgrade. the caliper with proper rotor offset would just bolt up.
some 18" wheels will clear these brakes and all 19" wheels will clear. e parking brake is plug and play with below harness from c63.
c43/450/400/300 w205 rear rotors dims.
c63/c63s w205 rotor dims.
oem w205 C63 caliper. this is same caliper on w205 c63, c63s and c63s with carbon ceramic brakes. they just paint it different. also i believe this caliper is on the s class and a few others.
mounting the bracket for c63 brake caliper on my 17 c43.
w205 c63 rear caliper mounted on my 17 c43.
pad difference between 17 c43 and 17 c63 rear pads.
e parking brake motor connection.
e parking brake motor.
part number for wiring harness needed to connect c63 w205 e parking brake to c43 wiring.
c43 stock ugly rear brake.
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Some one said "Big Brakes"??
AP Racing 6 pistons front with 380mm 2pc rotor
D2 Racing 4 pistons (EPB) rear with 380mm 2pc rotor
AP Racing 6 pistons front with 380mm 2pc rotor
D2 Racing 4 pistons (EPB) rear with 380mm 2pc rotor
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With any big brake kit, you will need car specific mounting brackets of course.
Contact D2 Racing for more details and local dealers/shops.
https://www.d2racing.com/kits/big-brake-kits/
There are also a few other brands that offer EPB big brake kits.
Another option is the dual brake system. One tiny EPB module and choose any brand of calipers of your liking... But those tiny EPB's are not cheap...