My Stock E55 vs Mthis Modded C63
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Another note to add about the Evo 3 not running properly, the owner of the car works in the industry of car tuning; you think maybe he'd know if something was up
MURTAZA - your car is obviously VERY fast no doubt. Do you have any 60-130 numbers to compare? What does it run in the 1/4 mile or are all your runs on the street from a roll?
Have you had it on a dyno? I have been considering the M6 and would like more information please.
Have you had it on a dyno? I have been considering the M6 and would like more information please.
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MURTAZA,
I don't know yet. Don't usually do any street racing. I drag race and road race. I am going to order the Performance Box so I can see what it runs 60-130 so I can see how it compares to you all. I am sure it will be competitive but I don't know yet. Will advise as soon as I can.
Keep racing but be safe!
I don't know yet. Don't usually do any street racing. I drag race and road race. I am going to order the Performance Box so I can see what it runs 60-130 so I can see how it compares to you all. I am sure it will be competitive but I don't know yet. Will advise as soon as I can.
Keep racing but be safe!
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MURTAZA,
I don't know yet. Don't usually do any street racing. I drag race and road race. I am going to order the Performance Box so I can see what it runs 60-130 so I can see how it compares to you all. I am sure it will be competitive but I don't know yet. Will advise as soon as I can.
Keep racing but be safe!
I don't know yet. Don't usually do any street racing. I drag race and road race. I am going to order the Performance Box so I can see what it runs 60-130 so I can see how it compares to you all. I am sure it will be competitive but I don't know yet. Will advise as soon as I can.
Keep racing but be safe!
We have a good race crew down here and keep it as safe as possible with no civilians on the road (for the most part
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Just noticed your 1/4 mile time, wow excellent! Despite all the bickering in this thread I'm pretty sure I would get schooled in the 1/4 mile, this car is very tricky to launch. I have taken a stock E63 from a dig till 70 or so but it was stock.
We have a good race crew down here and keep it as safe as possible with no civilians on the road (for the most part).
We have a good race crew down here and keep it as safe as possible with no civilians on the road (for the most part
).I think most forget Alex, that the M6 is not a quarter miler and would get its a$$ handed to it via a dig. The runs where Murtaza beats the C63 go well past those quarter mile trap speeds; places where gearing, drivetrain/parasitic loss, COed, play large(r) roles.
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As soon as I can get a PBox I will let you know what it does. Its just so freaking hot down here in sunny Florida!! It was 93 today!! Kills the performance.
Vic55 - I hear what you are saying about the higher speeds but we just made the mile run in Miami at over 100 degrees and went well over the 170 mark so its not so slow up top either. I can't brag because I don't know about the 60-130. My car is very similar to the Silver Dragon so we probably run similar times. Will advise.
Vic55 - I hear what you are saying about the higher speeds but we just made the mile run in Miami at over 100 degrees and went well over the 170 mark so its not so slow up top either. I can't brag because I don't know about the 60-130. My car is very similar to the Silver Dragon so we probably run similar times. Will advise.
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As soon as I can get a PBox I will let you know what it does. Its just so freaking hot down here in sunny Florida!! It was 93 today!! Kills the performance.
Vic55 - I hear what you are saying about the higher speeds but we just made the mile run in Miami at over 100 degrees and went well over the 170 mark so its not so slow up top either. I can't brag because I don't know about the 60-130. My car is very similar to the Silver Dragon so we probably run similar times. Will advise.
Vic55 - I hear what you are saying about the higher speeds but we just made the mile run in Miami at over 100 degrees and went well over the 170 mark so its not so slow up top either. I can't brag because I don't know about the 60-130. My car is very similar to the Silver Dragon so we probably run similar times. Will advise.
I like the 60-130 times that the PCar boys use- its the real world time that is most realistic for street comparos. Im sure your 60-130 is very good if its like the dragon
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Up top I wasn't pulling away from the Evo 3 hard like I do vs the 55 amgs, like I said before his car has ***** up top.
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I see your point but that doesn't really apply here. We did 40-50mph 2nd gear rolls and I would immediately jump half a car off the honk...wish I had better vids of that. At lower speeds 1st gear rolls are great but I couldn't do that with Josh since my tires are almost bald and I'd go sideways into Drew
Up top I wasn't pulling away from the Evo 3 hard like I do vs the 55 amgs, like I said before his car has ***** up top.
Up top I wasn't pulling away from the Evo 3 hard like I do vs the 55 amgs, like I said before his car has ***** up top.
FWIW he did post that you were jumping right at the third horn and he was not. Not trying to start anything but I wonder if you saw this post: See "Silver Dragon" post here:
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I know the angle isn't the greatest, but to me it looks like at most 1/2 car at any point during the race, and this is what Josh is saying as well. Either way it is clear they are both very fast cars and evenly matched.
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I received my PBox last week and botched my 60-130 over the weekend as I let off 1 mph to soon!
Hopefully the weather clears up and I can get another stab at it, but I'm hoping I will break into the 9s.
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As soon as I can get a PBox I will let you know what it does. Its just so freaking hot down here in sunny Florida!! It was 93 today!! Kills the performance.
Vic55 - I hear what you are saying about the higher speeds but we just made the mile run in Miami at over 100 degrees and went well over the 170 mark so its not so slow up top either. I can't brag because I don't know about the 60-130. My car is very similar to the Silver Dragon so we probably run similar times. Will advise.
Vic55 - I hear what you are saying about the higher speeds but we just made the mile run in Miami at over 100 degrees and went well over the 170 mark so its not so slow up top either. I can't brag because I don't know about the 60-130. My car is very similar to the Silver Dragon so we probably run similar times. Will advise.
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I just wanted to point out that the 60-130 of 10.48 sec for the C63, which is the only 60-130 I know of for the C up to this point, was not running LT headers. That run was recorded in July of '08, and the owner said it was making 500hp at the crank according to the info I could find. Who knows how accurate that hp rating is, but I'm guessing he was running K2. I would imagine those of us running LTs should do significantly better, in the 9's like DLSJ5 was saying.
I received my PBox last week and botched my 60-130 over the weekend as I let off 1 mph to soon! Hopefully the weather clears up and I can get another stab at it, but I'm hoping I will break into the 9s.
I received my PBox last week and botched my 60-130 over the weekend as I let off 1 mph to soon!
Hopefully the weather clears up and I can get another stab at it, but I'm hoping I will break into the 9s.
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The reason why I think he was running the K2 is because of the time frame. No one has been running long tubes that I know of until this summer, and the Kleeman headers are far from headers. They are basically high flowing manifolds, which imo do nothing. I think the gains from the K2 are coming from the high flow cats more than anything.Another member here gained 40 rwhp when he switched out the Kleeman K2 manifolds for the MHP long tube headers fwiw.
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Haha, yeah, 6speed is actually where I was digging that info up from The reason why I think he was running the K2 is because of the time frame. No one has been running long tubes that I know of until this summer, and the Kleeman headers are far from headers. They are basically high flowing manifolds, which imo do nothing. I think the gains from the K2 are coming from the high flow cats more than anything.
Another member here gained 40 rwhp when he switched out the Kleeman K2 manifolds for the MHP long tube headers fwiw.
The reason why I think he was running the K2 is because of the time frame. No one has been running long tubes that I know of until this summer, and the Kleeman headers are far from headers. They are basically high flowing manifolds, which imo do nothing. I think the gains from the K2 are coming from the high flow cats more than anything.Another member here gained 40 rwhp when he switched out the Kleeman K2 manifolds for the MHP long tube headers fwiw.
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Yeah, at least you guys have that option 
I'm jealous of you M3 guys. Here I thought the 63 would be the first to have F/I kits available, but nope. Plus you have so many options to choose from! I really like that ESS kit, looks clean and unobtrusive.
I'm jealous of you M3 guys. Here I thought the 63 would be the first to have F/I kits available, but nope. Plus you have so many options to choose from! I really like that ESS kit, looks clean and unobtrusive.
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Of course my point applies, I just think you misinterpreted what I was saying. From a roll at 40-50 is where you would start to pull back some of the advantage that an AMG might otherwise get from a dig. But since you started at that number/speed your advantage was gained immediately. The throttle response on the S85 engine is amazingly quick so I can see how you got that half car lead.
FWIW he did post that you were jumping right at the third horn and he was not. Not trying to start anything but I wonder if you saw this post: See "Silver Dragon" post here:
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FWIW he did post that you were jumping right at the third horn and he was not. Not trying to start anything but I wonder if you saw this post: See "Silver Dragon" post here:
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Stuff like this makes getting up for the runs a lot less worth it.
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Here's a photo comparo, the K2 setup pic was taken by hhughes, following a pic I took of the MHP headers:
But yeah, I have no doubt a LT setup would pull significantly on a K2 setup. A 44 rwhp gain that hhughes achieved is huge imo. Oh, and yeah hhughes, that supercharger pic you posted is exactly what I'm looking for haha. Although maybe not in orange
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So with a LT header set-up, are there any cats, hi-flo metallic or otherwise? Also are these equal length, or do they need to be? That pic above looks to be the ultimate setup for max hp/tq gains, I'm just curious to know the "why" behind it. Oh, and does the sound draw attention? Thanks..
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I do have a set of high flow metallic cats in my setup. I think I may be the only one, everyone else I know of is running catless. You can kinda see them in the pic above, right behind the merge collectors where the tubes meet. They are 300 cell, and same diameter as the mid pipes.
These are not equal length. I think there simply wasn't enough room to do so, but don't quote me on that. Also, there was a discussion about this awhile back but basically for the power we're making it doesn't really matter. I'm sure this can be debated, and as I'm no expert on this I can't really comment further.
As far as the sound drawing attention....this would be a big YES. It bothered me at first I have to admit. I was afraid I would be drawing negative attention and/or having the police called on me, but all those worries are gone. Either I've adjusted, or the setup has broken in or something, but I love it now. I get a lot of thumbs up or jaw dropped looks when I floor it. I never seem to be tailgated either.
These are not equal length. I think there simply wasn't enough room to do so, but don't quote me on that. Also, there was a discussion about this awhile back but basically for the power we're making it doesn't really matter. I'm sure this can be debated, and as I'm no expert on this I can't really comment further.
As far as the sound drawing attention....this would be a big YES. It bothered me at first I have to admit. I was afraid I would be drawing negative attention and/or having the police called on me, but all those worries are gone. Either I've adjusted, or the setup has broken in or something, but I love it now. I get a lot of thumbs up or jaw dropped looks when I floor it. I never seem to be tailgated either.
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