TMC M5

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ad-test-review

0-60: 3.7
1/4mile: 12.1 @120mph
$81K

Pretty fast!....but also pretty expensive...


Tom

gthal

Depends on where you live... In Canada that is ~$10,000 less than a fully optioned M3. This is the first time in the history of the world that a car is the same price in Canada as it is in the US... Thanks MB!!

The comments relative to the M3 are what I would have expected. If MB smartens up and puts a true DCT and real tires on the next C63 AMG and causes it to drop 150lbs it could absolutely de-throne the current M3 and quite possibly the next M3 too.

SonnyakaPig

These are remarkable figures. 8.6 to 100 mph is actually very, very hard to believe. If C&D says it's so, then I must believe, but it's hard to.

SonnyakaPig

Anyone else completely blown away by 8.6 to 100 mph?

bushburninc63

120 mph stock? damn, that's a ringer

TMC M5

I guess I am thinking that for less than $10K more, someone can get a new '12 GT-R. A GT-R may not be everyone's cup of tea...but at $81K it is getting up there in price with some serious performance coupes...especially if people can get into a slightly used 997TT for that price.

Tom

1st amg

Yes the GTR is quicker, but it is ugly and sounds disgusting, there is alot more to who is faster to 60, getting there in a fashion that makes you howl like a little schoolgirl is something that the GTR will NEVER give you. Sorry, I know you own one, nothing personal to you.

-=Hot|Ice=-

That $10k is a lot of money. Personally, I love the GT-R. I just can't swing it.

P.S. No use in waiting for a head to head. C&D seems to favor BMW in every comparo. The M3 has it in the bag. I've also looked at used 997TT's but they are well above 100k.

You're in Rockville MD! 10 minutes away from me!

aznkuja328

sorry nothing personal to you, i think gtr looks better and sounds much better. when c250, c350 coupes are all on the road, the c63 coupe won't stand out too much.

Gsc

Hard to believe tht

LawRens

why would car and driver lie? it's not like they try to make euros look THAT good to begin with. Not when the competition is domestic anyway.

TMC M5

I used to live in Potomac (before the divorce...).

I disagree about the $10K. If $10K is an issue...you probably shouldn't be buying an $81K high performance coupe.

There are plenty of 997TTs for $85K and under. They will be the 997.1TTs ...but still 997TTs.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/search...=1320720461300

Tom

CK17

I was considering the GT-R, but here in Canada its more like $109,000 + for the new 2012 GT-R so thats pretty much a $30K price tag difference.

TMC M5

I don't take it personally. That is why they make all different cars for all different tastes. Personally, I like the C63 sedan's lines much better than the coupe. I think AMG saved their aggressiveness in the C63 coupe's lines for the upcoming Black Series.

"Fashion" is over-rated. I had a CL65....a great looking car...with great acceleration/torque...nicely appointed interior. But in my opinion, the GT-R is a much more enjoyable car. The handling and steering feel is in a different universe. The acceleration is so much more useable in the GT-R with the AWD and lightning quick transmission.

I joke around that the GT-R is a "rock star". Trust me...I don't buy cars to bring attention to myself. However, the GT-R shocked me as far as how much attention it draws. I have owned it for a little more than a year and I catch at least one person a week whipping out a cell phone to take pictures/video (and not just kids...soccer moms and women in SUVs in particular surprised me). The CL65 would have maybe one person every so often looking at the V12 Biturbo badges with a confused look on their face. I never thought that people would go so crazy over it.

Tom

-=Hot|Ice=-

But add that 10k + insurance. I can lease my C63 AMG Coupe for around almost ~$1,000 a month. The GT-R is at least 300 more a month. That's $7,200 more in 3 years. While I agree that it shouldn't be a problem, that 7,200 could go towards gas and insurance. Also, I never liked the 997.1's. The .2's LED's look draw dropping. Where in Potomac were you? I'm sorry about your divorce.

Would love to see your car one day. I've adored the GT-R ever since 09. The GT-R in my opinion looks amazing. It's in your face and you can tell that it's coming from a mile down the road.

melmanc55

GT-R is a nice car with all the bells and whistles. And it's a very fast car. But it's ugly and at the end of the day it's still a Nissan... IMHO

-=Hot|Ice=-

Please don't say that. It makes you sound ignorant. It's not about the badge. The badge doesn't make your **** 150% bigger.

gthal

+1... the GTR would walk any C63 (unless heavily modded) both in a drag and on a track. I don't care who makes it as it is an amazing piece of machinery... not for everyone, but amazing nonetheless.

keikdasneak

Your crazy if you playing the badge *****! The new KIA optimas haas better interior design then a 335 and C350... and its a KIA.

vdubpower

why is having a true dual clutch better than having the multiple clutch setup they have now?

Vossen Wheels

Very nice times but C&D usually gives everyone their fastest quoted time

Merc63

If the GTR was RWD it would be bad ***. AWD is sooooo gay.

-=Hot|Ice=-

Because you've got two clutches. One spinning the even and one spinning the odd. Changes are faster and smoother. Call for a triple downshift and a DCT will do it in seconds with no hassles. The MCT has trouble with downshifting multiples gears.

wawy

C63 AMG Coupe
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.6 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 14.0 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 4.3 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 2.5 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 2.7 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.1 sec @ 120 mph

- These numbers are quite simply outstanding. I am actually in awe really at what the C63 has pulled off. Just for comparison sake here are the new CLS63 AMG bi-turbo results that Car and Driver tested recently:

CLS63 AMG Bi-Turbo
Zero to 60 mph: 3.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.5 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 19.5 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 4.4 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 2.4 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 2.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.0 sec @ 121 mph
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...car-and-driver

So, as you can see, there really is not that much of a difference between the two. Interestingly enough there have been some members here that have attended the AMG driving event and drove the new E63 AMG Bi-Turbo and reported that it was considerably quicker than the C63! Really?

AMGeez

C63's trapping at 120, per this mag, would walk plenty of GTR's. I remember a few magazine tests of GTR's trapping less.