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Originally Posted by MarcusF (Post 4920957)

One is at the LA show. I was in it earlier today. If you're into bikes, the Davel on display with the new ML63 was beautiful.

http://www.marcusfitzhugh.com/CLK/DI...o-Show-016.jpg

http://www.marcusfitzhugh.com/CLK/DI...o-Show-100.jpg

I was suppose to go to the Porsche event today at the LA auto show .... didn't feel like driving two days in a row to downtown ..... I love bikes, especially Ducati's.

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Originally Posted by BK63amg (Post 4920454)

Love everything except that rear wing!

From what I read on AMG Private Lounge, the track pack option, which includes removal of the rear seat, does not include the rear wing and front slats. That is what they call an "Aero Package" for even more money.

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Originally Posted by GermanCars (Post 4921079)

Track Pack - Dunlop Race Tires, Diff Cooler.
Aero Pack - Rear wing, front winglets, requires rear seat delete.

You can get the track pack with rear seats.

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Originally Posted by AMG Dictator (Post 4920622)

They didn't "Just" change the tires. It sounds a bit more involved than that.

and you really shouldn't add more front downforce without adding more rear downforce. My guess it that rear wing is needed to actually generate additional grip with the front splitter and flics.

AMG doesn't seem like a compy to me that would stick a big wing on for the fun of it, it has a purpose.

If you don't like it just get the car without the aero package.

Or are you only buying for looks?

:y the tires were specially made by Dunlop for the this car. I saw the tires after some very harsh treatment at Laguna and they were holding well and also maintained their heat as well. These tires are more like racing intermediate tires than something you could get at local tire shop. The rear wing is functional and was put into place to balance the car when track option is added.

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Originally Posted by C63newdude (Post 4920791)

No thanks!!!!. I rather buy a C63 coupe, put my own rims, have it tune(less than $2000), change the tires to something sticky(whenever they wear out), put a suspension kit for $2000, put a rear LSD for less than $2000, and have 99% achieved with $65,000 in the bank.

We are going to break a lots of hearts at the tracks and roads courses. I can see anyone owning a regular C63(sedan or coupe) with a mere $$6,000-10,000 in basic mods just fishtailing these Black series.

The black series is a beautiful car, it has the nice mods but the wrong price tag. My .2c

There is a little more to it than that. The engine has SLS internals, there is the transmission cooling unit, rims, etc. This is after all a "Black" and when you run basic #s it might not make sense, but like MB as a brand you are buying a marque and there is price of admission. I would add that the prices you are hearing in the US are much lower than the rest of the world and in comparison to others outside of the US, the car is 30-40% cheaper in the US.

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Originally Posted by rage2 (Post 4920964)

This. I've driven C63s with lots of suspension work, and none comes close to the handling, or grip level, of a BS. And that's a 4 year old CLK63 BS.

The $ gap isn't as big as you make it out to be comparing a base C63 vs fully loaded C63 BS.

Trust me when I say the performance is this is car is worth every penny.

I wish the rear difusser was more stepped and layered lower with slit vents into the underneath of the car like the 2008 CLK63 black...

Wonder what the front spoiler lip is made out of and will it fit a regular C63.

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Originally Posted by DuaneC63 (Post 4921268)

Wonder what the front spoiler lip is made out of and will it fit a regular C63.

made of CF and is of the highest quality and weave. Not sure if it would fit or not. It is slightly angled downwards than horizontal.

Dave, did you end up getting any laps in the BS, if so, knowing that you have driven an SLS many times on a track, how does it compare, power to weight ratio, acceleration and most importantly the sound. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by 1st amg (Post 4921470)

I hear "Jonesing"

http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/...Series/260129/

I loooove that kind of review :)

"this Mercedes feels more like a Porsche 911 GT3 RS than almost any other road-legal performance car this tester can think of"

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Originally Posted by NORTH 44 C63 (Post 4921668)

I hear "Jonesing"

Trust me Barry.....with these reviews coming out...FREAKING!!! Wife is going to ban me from anything Mercedes....if they made a pick up truck I would have it as well....talk about a brand whore:crazy:

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Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=- (Post 4920877)

Then why would people buy the SLS? People who already have SLS AMG's would be pissed. The SLS is MB's flagship. They're not going to step on it's toes.

Yeah, it's the same comparison between the Cayman and the 911. The Cayman has, supposedly, better engine layout and weight distribution than the 911. However, Porsche will not let the Cayman be better than the flagship 911. The guys in Motor Trend made a funny comparison:

"The Cayman is Porsche's Duke of Windsor, waiting its entire life for King 911 to die or abdicate."

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...#ixzz1e00pH61m

Its the same reason why the standard C63 does not have the full power of an E63/CLK63/SL63/CL63/S63. They will not allow a "base model" such the C63 surpass higher-end and more expensive models. Same goes for the C63BS vs SLS.

I really want one and I am on the lis for 2 dealers but i heard MB is only selling like 90 a year and my chances of getting one is slim.

Does anyone know a dealer that can sell me one at msrp??

Seems like a hot car and significantly better than the stock C63, but it will face stiff competition if the price is closer to $135K, and I still prefer the look of the sedan better. As far as the big rear wing, I don't like the look either, but I wouldn't mess with changing it since aerodynamics are really important at higher speeds.

The BS looks really good. Yes, the wing is a bit OTT, but needed for track work.

That Diavel looks pretty damn good too! :y

How can you be in a list in the U.S.A. (DiamondC63Coupe)They don't have the black series on their computers or any kind of equipment list. I was told from a dealer, as soon as they hear something they'll call me . The owner of the Mercedes dealership told me if I order it, he can get it? Car and Driver had a quote that they were all sold out? I wish I can get a straight answer.Anyone with opionions?

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Originally Posted by SMP (Post 4921047)

I was suppose to go to the Porsche event today at the LA auto show .... didn't feel like driving two days in a row to downtown ..... I love bikes, especially Ducati's.

Speaking of bikes, did I see your CLK BS at Del Amo Motorsports Saturday?

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Originally Posted by splinter (Post 4925176)

Speaking of bikes, did I see your CLK BS at Del Amo Motorsports Saturday?

Wasn't me ... but I've been there a few times before with my BS.

Any shots of the interior?