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izzyAMG 12-29-2011 08:34 AM

First look BMW M3 2013
 
http://www.roadandtrack.com/future-c...bmw-m3/gallery

What do you think of the new styling compared to the updated c63. I'm speculating MB will not come out of a new design of the C class until at least two years from now. My first impression is BMW appears to be shying away from that aggressive exterior design that I really love of the M3's and the interior appears bland, nothing exciting about it. I hope torque numbers increase to
come close to our cars.

derek 12-29-2011 08:38 AM

Not too impressed to be honest.

bobbyzcar 12-29-2011 09:09 AM

The first 6 pictures are of a regular 3 series...only picture #7 is a "rendering" of what the M3 might look like. Just traded in my M3 for my C63C and the C63 is much more fresh and modern, but the base of the E90 M3 design was already 7 or 8 years old. I'm sure the new M3 will be nice.

obsidian05e55 12-29-2011 09:27 AM

Yeah, thats the regular 3er. The M3 hasn't been revealed yet. Here are some spy shots, and a render. If it's anything like the render, im buying one.

http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/att...7&d=1319487607
http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/att...7&d=1323963809
https://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3615/blueox.jpg
http://www.autofans.be/sites/default...9/prev/m3a.jpg
http://www.motorward.com/wp-content/...3-render-2.jpg

:bow:

izzyAMG 12-29-2011 09:42 AM

Damn, those renders are sweet.

callmiro 12-29-2011 09:48 AM

Those renderings are awesome...but i think they're pipe dreams....

Look at the new 5 series and you will get all the stylin cues....

Since the M5 is pretty lame, i'm thinkin the 3 will follow suit

BK63amg 12-29-2011 09:48 AM

Hell yeah those renders are crazy. Especially those rear fenders!

gthal 12-29-2011 10:00 AM

Those pictures are just guesses... no one has seen the next M3. From all reports, it won't be available in North America until sometime around 2014 and my dealer actually said the coupe may not show up until early 2015. Timing aside, it is a ways off (don't forget they take a year off between the release of the 3 series coupe and the M3).

I'm not a big fan of the next gen styling of the 3 series but I reserve judgement as I didn't like the E9X M3 either at first (now I love it). The renderings of the next C class also leave something to be desired IMO. Let's all hope MB and BMW get it right. If the M3 renderings prove accurate, it will be gorgeous. MB really needs to widen the C63 in the rear like the M3 renderings if for no reason other than WIDER TIRES!

I suspect performance (acceleration) will be on par with the current C63 and the torque will be close too... via a turbo. MB seems to be getting very serious relative to being REAL competition for the M3 and I would bet money that the next C63 steps up its game and is at least as competitive, if not better, than the next M3. The best part of this is everyone wins as one or both of the cars will be amazing.

jarjoug 12-29-2011 11:02 AM

The new M3 will not look anything like the rendered ones.

George

goatfarmer1970 12-29-2011 11:55 AM

But the camo'd test mules have the big bad-ass flared fenders. I think that makes the renderings seem a little more credible.

Ex_Red 12-29-2011 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by callmiro (Post 4981338)
Those renderings are awesome...but i think they're pipe dreams....

Look at the new 5 series and you will get all the stylin cues....

Since the M5 is pretty lame, i'm thinkin the 3 will follow suit

I hope they do something about the M5's side gills from Pep Boys...

Anyway, although I agree that the styling cues are already in place, the M5's exterior has always been subdued relative to the M3...I won't be surprised if the real thing is very similar to one of the blue renderings.


Originally Posted by gthal (Post 4981349)
....I suspect performance (acceleration) will be on par with the current C63 and the torque will be close too... via a turbo. MB seems to be getting very serious relative to being REAL competition for the M3 and I would bet money that the next C63 steps up its game and is at least as competitive, if not better, than the next M3. The best part of this is everyone wins as one or both of the cars will be amazing.

I'm also guessing that both cars will be turbo (at least 2 each). And the M3's engine will probably be either a V6 based on the M5's V8 (:eek:) or a warmed over N54/N55 variant (:rolleyes:)...I'd be pleasantly surprised if ///Mainstream builds another dedicated engine along the lines of the S54.

But like you said...bottom line is that we'll all have at least 2 great cars to choose from again. That's exciting. Only the fanboys will mourn the good old days (prior to 2008) when the M3 was clearly the "only" choice.

lebreeze 12-29-2011 12:35 PM

I just don't like how the hood looks on the new 3 er's. I think it just looks fugly how the front of the hood doesn't go down farther like the old ones.

bmoney12 12-29-2011 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by gthal (Post 4981349)
I would bet money that the next C63 steps up its game and is at least as competitive, if not better, than the next M3. The best part of this is everyone wins as one or both of the cars will be amazing.

Hopefully they step up their game enough to put a dual clutch in. I'll take the same HP, a few lbs lighter and a DCT. Should have no problems getting into the 11's stock.

_AMG_ 12-29-2011 03:15 PM

If it looks anything like those renders then I'm impressed.

noodleman 12-29-2011 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by goatfarmer1970 (Post 4981490)
But the camo'd test mules have the big bad-ass flared fenders. I think that makes the renderings seem a little more credible.

first thing i noticed about the mule are the fenders too! Would kill to have those fenders as stock for our cars...

Sincity 12-29-2011 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by jarjoug (Post 4981422)
The new M3 will not look anything like the rendered ones.

George

That is too bad because I like!

dkhm3 12-29-2011 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by gthal (Post 4981349)
Those pictures are just guesses... no one has seen the next M3. From all reports, it won't be available in North America until sometime around 2014 and my dealer actually said the coupe may not show up until early 2015. Timing aside, it is a ways off (don't forget they take a year off between the release of the 3 series coupe and the M3).

I'm not a big fan of the next gen styling of the 3 series but I reserve judgement as I didn't like the E9X M3 either at first (now I love it). The renderings of the next C class also leave something to be desired IMO. Let's all hope MB and BMW get it right. If the M3 renderings prove accurate, it will be gorgeous. MB really needs to widen the C63 in the rear like the M3 renderings if for no reason other than WIDER TIRES!

I suspect performance (acceleration) will be on par with the current C63 and the torque will be close too... via a turbo. MB seems to be getting very serious relative to being REAL competition for the M3 and I would bet money that the next C63 steps up its game and is at least as competitive, if not better, than the next M3. The best part of this is everyone wins as one or both of the cars will be amazing.


MB been pretty close with previous AMG C class' too..

E46 M3 Nurgburgring 8:22 min.
MB C55 8:22 min
*tie*

Helms 12-29-2011 09:15 PM

That looks really bad compared to last year's model.

bhamg 12-29-2011 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by Ex_Red (Post 4981506)
Anyway, although I agree that the styling cues are already in place, the M5's exterior has always been subdued relative to the M3...I won't be surprised if the real thing is very similar to one of the blue renderings.

Totally agree...this rendering probably is very close to what the real thing will be. IMHO.

-=Hot|Ice=- 12-29-2011 10:42 PM

BMW has lost it's way. I never thought the day would come but after 10+ years of driving BMW's, I was done with the horrible cheap quality in the M3 after I sat inside the C63 AMG Coupe.I'm not buying anything from ///Marketing.

BenzoBoi 12-29-2011 11:27 PM

The renderings Walter posted are :bow:

rory breaker 12-30-2011 01:20 AM

Ditto on the renderings being likely accurate. Don't see anything too at fetched there really, maybe the wheel/tire setup is a bit aggressive for a factory car, even an M, but I bet this is pretty close.


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